I love it, "chain-letter politics." Do we risk a terrorist attack if we don't pass it on?

Chris R

LOL.

National Review is obviously a rag used for propaganda. What a bunch of worthless humans that work there at the National Review. You have to beleive these neocons would place money way above the entegrity of the constitution. These assclown Neocons have to be stopped. I guess we're all counting on Polosi.

There are several of these sorts of emails that I've seen floating around, most of them well over a year old. One that didn't see wide circulation concerned a particular company of troops from the Tooele Army Depot in Utah. That one had a particularly religious cast to it (that these guys had done incredible things in Iraq for the LDS church) but it was mostly a rah-rah, look at how great the war in Iraq is going sort of thing. The company in question did serve very honorably in Iraq, but their story got blown way out of proportion. I think those guys who served deserve better. I guess in this case at least it's some unnamed marine, so no one personally is at risk of having their story told wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other versions of this going around in smaller circles, similar to the email I got.

"I guess in this case at least it's some unnamed marine, so no one personally is at risk of having their story told wrong"

Assuming, that is, that it wasn't somebody sitting at their computer terminal in pajamas in their mother's basement writing this . . .

I remember this letter from a while back and it included a pretty major error:

"2) The M243 SAW (squad assault weapon): .223 cal. Drum fed light machine gun. Big thumbs down."
http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2005/12/son-reports-real-war-in-iraq.html

There is no M243, there is a M249 SAW but it's also belt fed and not drum fed.

Gee, might mysterious rah rah statements echoing administration policies have anything at all to do with this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6100906.stm

How can you be so cynical? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh, yes -- I'm sure an ordinary Marine fellow who talks casually about "our guys" is also going to use the terminology of "winning decisively" and "stunned and dismayed" and "almost universally", not to mention the grammatically correct use of "whom" in a sentence when 99 out of 100 people would have written "who" -- except for English majors in the military PR office, where I'm sure this message originated.

As you of course noted, many of us who posted the letter explained what we knew of its source. It's a pity the Liberal media is not as forthcoming. Forinstance, reporting fiction as fact in Fallujah. Letter to a Liberal
I'm sure you are fairminded and read Michael Yon's excellent letters from Iraq, which give you a "feet on the ground" look at what the main stream media doesn't see and report.
You also of course know of the faux news and photos produced in Lebanon by AP and Reuters.
Most of us are trying to be fair, and we're trying to get it right. We don't want to spread BS, unlike the main stream media.
Rathergate showed the power of the blogosphere, and CBS showed us the embarrassment when power is abused.
The story from the son in Iraq may not have been genuine. I said as much in my preface. But after over 21 years in the Air Force, and a son who served in Iraq for almost a year, I know that a lot the main stream media presents is incomplete and inaccurate.

The rightist who wrote the above note offers not specific proof for his canned assertion about the media coverage from Iraq other than an iteration of taking points with no bearing on the specific matter here. if there is so much good news in iraq that we are missing, why can't the bushists at NRO find something better than a 13-month-old letter of questionable provenance> Has Major Mike read the inspector general reports out of iraq -- the ones that list untold construction and building fiascos at a cost to US taxpayers of billions? case in point: the $100M iraq police academy in baghdad -- so shoddy and fubared it has to be torn down and begun anew ... ? pls, major, show us this compendium of hidden "good news" where ever it might lie. for the sake of completeness and accuracy, if nothing else.

I eagerly look forward to next week's National Review cover article on the Neiman Marcus chocolate chip cookie recipe.

Major Mike, I couldn't agree with you more about mainstream media. The DoD should take matters into its own hands and give us a copy of every reconstruction contract awarded to date accompanied by photos of the completed projects. Better yet, the Dod should video Iraqis enjoying all of the new infrastructure we've built to date.

What really burns me up is that mainstream media has completely ignored the FBI's investigation of Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Moseley and retired Air Force Chief of Staff General John Jumper and their part in awarding a bogus $50 million contract to retired General Hal Hornburg's client, Strategic Message Solutions. Got an update for me, Major Mike?

Three former chiefs of the DIA are involved in the Mitchell Wade scandal but does mainstream media keep us up to date on that investigation? No, sirree, bob. Once again, the lowly taxpayer is left to wonder where the hell all of his or her money is going.

And what about that $9 billion that L. Paul Bremer and the CPA supposedly lost track of? Have you seen anyone in the media ask the Bush administration to explain how $9 billion was carted out of the building? I bet you are wondering just like me whether some of that $9 billion is fueling the insurgency and whether L. Paul Bremer is now a very wealthy man.

Don't count on mainstream media for answers, that's for sure.

Would the Pentagon ever put out pure propaganda about how well the war was going?
December 1, 2005
U.S. Is Said to Pay to Plant Articles in Iraq Papers
New York Times
By JEFF GERTH and SCOTT SHANE
WASHINGTON, Nov. 30 - Titled "The Sands Are Blowing Toward a Democratic Iraq," an article written this week for publication in the Iraqi press was scornful of outsiders' pessimism about the country's future.

"Western press and frequently those self-styled 'objective' observers of Iraq are often critics of how we, the people of Iraq, are proceeding down the path in determining what is best for our nation," the article began. Quoting the Prophet Muhammad, it pleaded for unity and nonviolence.

Sigh. A FOAF story. A Friend of a Friend said it! Waste of Time.

"What amazes me is that this party and that administration can still get 30% in the polls. Who are those people?"

theres always a 30%. 30% in the former USSR think stalin was the greatest too.

Amount of time May/NRO kept this propaganda on file, waiting for enough time to pass to be able to desperately recycle the old, stale propaganda while also rationalizing the fervent hope that no one would notice that it was just old, stale propaganda that was being desperately recyled: about 13 months.

Amount of time it took for Justin and his readers to figure out and demonstrate that May/NRO were trying to get away with desperately recycling old, stale propaganda: about 3 hours.

Bushists are all about denying reality, including this aspect of current reality: the tubes of the internets have a memory, and there are people who know how to use it.

Keenan,
Bravo, man bravo. Faux news has daily briefings with the criminal Ollie North, where he talks to "real soldiers" inside the Green Zone to get their feel good story from Iraq. What a joke. It's disgusting that the wholly owned subsidiary of the Bush administration continues to try and re-package this illegal war to be more pallatable to American tastes. Like it's a god damned ESPN human interest story.

I realize you have to wade through a cesspool full of Rambo-nuttery, but if you actually read the comments to the item on that site (http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/133585.php) you will read the observations by more than a few Iraq War vets who cite a bevy of major inaccuracies about the note’s description of the ammunition, weaponry, etc...inaccuracies that no authentic Marine would make. One respondent, in fact, recalls seeing an almost identical note being circulated back in 1992!!!

In other words, ladies and germs, the entire note is as authentic as that e-mail you get from the deposed Nigerian price who wants you to open you bank account to he can dump his hidden wealth into it!

…But NOT as authentic as the e-mail about waking up in a bathtub full of ice—with your kidney removed!

Ask the NSA who wrote it., they must have this game of 'telephone' tapped by now.

The story from the son in Iraq may not have been genuine. I said as much in my preface. But after over 21 years in the Air Force, and a son who served in Iraq for almost a year, I know that a lot the main stream media presents is incomplete and inaccurate.

And we're not torturing as many people as Stalin did, so it's all good.

We will discourage the insurgents in Iraq if you forward this email angel to seven people in the next 45 seconds. We'll fund the war with the billions of dollars Bill Gates is going to give us for sending emails to each other. We can spread goodwill throughout the Middle East by forwarding the 1,359,463 cards sent to sick little Betsy Phillips who suffered from cancer...27 years ago. We can support the troops by baking a batch of those famous Nieman-Marcus cookies, now that we all have the recipe, and we can win the war by placing those nasty African spiders under the toilet seats of the enemies so they'll get bitten on the butt and die.

Cliff May is the sleaziest kind of whore. Send that to everyone in your address book.

Committee hearing will shed new light upon Licoln group's role.

Subpoenae to Mars, bitches!

Going back to troop news....but with holiday travel related to the troops.

A troop movement in Kuwait comes soon...by an increase of some 3500 or so...and this comes ahead of Bush's 'new' plans for Iraq and also the State of the Union .

Of you holiday air travelers out there, did you notice any military members traveling as well...Marine, Army, Air Force and so on? They seemed to be at every gate.

I travel for the holidays every year and I noticed a lot more this year...The questions lingered Are they going home for the holidays? Are they headed back to Iraq?

Will they someday be on the U.S. death count? Another soldier sent to their death for a pack of lies ?

Did anyone else notice this travel flux this season?

This goes to show hoe very shallow and simple minded the majority of people are.

This is really no different than Joe (I'm to scared to testify under oath) Wilson's Yellow cake uranium fiasco.

The implication is that the letter is a hoax and therefore: The War is a failure -or- all positive news is simply false propaganda.

I would guess that these "Letters" could be planted in Waite for them to appear in circulation for the purpose of being discredited by the same person who wrote them.

Going back to the Joe Wilson fiasco for example. Joe goes to Niger for the explicit purpose of discrediting Bush on weather Saddam tried to purchase Yellow Cake. He comes back and says that "They told me it was not so" right off the bat I'm thinking "So what is your point?" cause I see none at all. Then he proceeds to testify that an envoy was sent from Iraq to discuss reopening trade relations. BAM! There you go proof actually that Iraq did try to purchase yellow cake. Why you ask is this proof? Well you idiots because it is all that the country has to barter with Iraq. Also here is further proof Joe Wilson then went on later to say that there was a "Fake" receipt for the purchase of yellow cake. Coincidentally there is no "legal" way he should have know of said receipt. Of course this is a point Prosecutor Fitzgerald forgot to consider. But more importantly this fake receipt is proof that there was a concerted effort to discredit the claim. Think about it…….if our intelligence agencies want to they can easily come up with the receipt that would never be questioned as for validity. So what would be the motivation for submitting a poor forgery?

It is like I sell a stolen and unregistered handgun to a criminal who then kills someone with it. The gun is traced back to me. I'm under investigation so I have an obviously forged fake receipt made for the sale of the handgun from someone with my misspelled name and someone else’s handwriting on the misspelled signature.

Well that’s it right? I'm off the hook. The receipt doesn’t fit so you must acquit right?

You all are a bunch of lame brain clowns. What idiots.

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The Marine's report is on-line with links to the weapons and annotations from an Aussie Officer who fought in Iraq.

http://www.kmike.com/IraqGrunt.htm

What really burns me up is that mainstream media has completely ignored the FBI's investigation of Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Moseley and retired Air Force Chief of Staff General John Jumper and their part in awarding a bogus $50 million contract to retired General Hal Hornburg's client, Strategic Message Solutions. Got an update for me, Major Mike?

Three phrases should be among the most common in our daily usage. They are: Thank you, I am grateful and I appreciate.

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