TPMMuckraker | Talking Points Memo | Jewish Group Calls on Goode to "Rethink" Muslim Comments

On 9-11, as the smoke rose up, the MSM started calling those who had or might call on stopping immigration bigots. Why? Because Pat Buchanan said stop immigration in 1992 and they called him a bigot as an election ploy to get Clinton elected. They did the same in 1996 and in 2000 for Gore.

Those who were for immigration after the WTC 1993 attacks and before the WTC and Pentagon 2001 attacks know they can't come out and directly call the 9-11 families, bigots. But they want to make the 9-11 families afraid to speak up too much to stop immigration.

So instead of calling the 9-11 families bigots, they call Virgil Goode a bigot. Or they might call Pat Buchanan or Lou Dobbs bigots. Paul Begala called Virgil Goode a bigot to frighten Bay Bucahan from telling that Begala was part of the 1992 Clinton election team that played with American lives by calling Buchanan a bigot. They won the 1992 election and on 9-11, almost 3000 people died from the immigration that Begala and Clinton said Buchanan was a bigot to want to stop.

Now we are going to hear everyone who was part of the 1992 coalition to elect Clinton call Virgil Goode a bigot. Why? Because they all have 9-11 guilt.

9-11 was a Muslim act of mass murder on Christians and Jews on American soil. Those who get fund raising from these sources, or want their votes have to call the truth tellers like Virgil Goode bigots to keep their supporters, donors, or voters from asking questions.

My security code is square.

Posted by Old Atlantic
December 22, 2006 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink

Old Atlantic,

>>of mass murder on Christians and Jews on American soil.

should be broadened to

>>of mass murder on Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Agnostics, Atheists, Legal Immigrants, Illegal Immigrants and visiting foreign business travelers on American soil.

Oh - and by the way, thanks for blaming Clinton again for the 9/11 attack. It's so refreshing.

Posted by Mike Conwell
December 22, 2006 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink

Time to give the Republican Jewish Coalition a call. Where do they stand?

Posted by Reb Yudel
December 22, 2006 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink

Would Rep. Goode advise the British to prohibit Irish Catholics (or Catholics of Irish descent)from visiting the U.K.? The IRA is a terrorist organization.

Posted by bryan
December 22, 2006 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink

My code name is "Mother" OA, does your mother know you're playing on the internet again?

Posted by Craig Chadwick
December 22, 2006 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink

My security code is hand. Islam cuts off people's hands. That's true in many Islamic countries. Islam was written down starting on the battlefield of Yamama in 633 AD. That was the invasion of what was then the Christian Jewish Western superpower.

The Koran commands that attack and occupation. That is what Islam is. What Islam is there without Muhammed?

Would you let a fully loaded B2 have a crew over New York be devout Muslims who belong to CAIR?

Posted by Old Atlantic
December 22, 2006 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink

I sent Goode some money. US immigration policy is paralyzed - everyone's too afraid of being called "bigots" to argue against immigration for any reason. It is impossible to have a rational debate in most circles of American society over what exactly we are trying to accomplish with immigration, how much immigration there should be, and who should and should not be chosen to be allowed in. In some ways we're the most powerful country in the world, but not for long if we don't get some control over our borders. The Republican party has dropped the ball on the issue, so I just send money to individual politicians who speak out against immigration.

Posted by Anonymous
December 22, 2006 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink

You want peace?

You really want peace?!!!

show me Your dogma!

SHOW ME YOUR DOGMA!!!

then throw it away.

If you dont know what dogma is go look it up in wikipedia. then.... give it up.

there's no god, theres no race, patritism(nationalism) is not a virtue....

you're people arn't more or less worthy of life...

when a some famous rich white person dies, don't give it anymore attention than you give to the dozens of black children who just died in africa. Don't be a hypocrite. no need to send money to africa either you'll end up causing more suffering....

just vote like a human being and when you see someone who's got dogma sit him down explain to him that he is wrong....

read history study science and philosophy...

think.. alot... even more than that!

read the news..

do unto others as you would have done unto you

Please

please

and then you'll have peace and so will I.

Thank you.

Posted by a bit less dogma a bit more peace
December 23, 2006 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink

HISTORY, SCIENCE??

What are you about? The people Of The Unted States of AMERICA dont need any science OR DOGMA about anything.

YOU "a bit less dogma a bit more peace" are a TROLL.

You need to SHUT YOUR mouth about anything and let REAL Americans take YOU OUT!

Go back to Karbala!!

Posted by Keith Brouse
December 24, 2006 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink

Brother Brouse carries on as fiercely as a mad mouse. He's all eaten up with patriotic rage and ready to bite himself for being so real an American. He doesn't live in the world of individual people, so he is fit for murder and destruction, wandering around screaming and gnashing his teeth in a world of spectrous abstractions and monsters under the bed. He would make a first class terrorist, seeing as how he enjoys boiling himself in his own juice.

Posted by Vinilo Suave
December 25, 2006 2:01 AM | Reply | Permalink

Democrats for Israel, Los Angeles, is shocked and dismayed at the horrendous prejudice that right wing talk show host, Dennis Prager and Congressman Virgil Goode (R-VA), have displayed toward the desire of the first ever Muslim member of Congress to take his oath of office on the Koran and calls on the Republican Jewish Coalition to join us in condemning Prager’s expression of such bigoted viewpoints.

U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison was elected the first ever Muslim member of Congress by the people of Minnesota. His district, which includes parts of Minneapolis is a diverse one, and includes a large Jewish population, which supported his position criticizing Hamas’ refusal to recognize Israel (he was endorsed by the American Jewish World newspaper of Minneapolis).

In a November 28th, 2006 column, Prager writes that Representative Ellison should not be allowed to take his oath of office on the Koran, because if he does so, it will “undermine American civilization.” Prager then says that if someone is incapable of taking the oath of office on the Bible, that person should not serve in Congress. Unbelievably, Prager also said that if Mr. Ellison is allowed to take his oath on the Koran, "he will be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11."

Congressman Virgil Goode (R-VA) echoed these sentiments in his own statement when he said, When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing-In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way.”

Prager and Goode's argument is a false one because no Bible or any other book is required for the actual oath of office for members of Congress. A Bible or other book may be used for the “photo-op” after the actual swearing in but not the actual ceremony.

Second, Prager and Goode’s stance requiring a particular version of the bible violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment which prohibits the imposition of a an established state religion and prohibits religious tests for public office of church and state in all of its aspects and opens the door for discrimination against Jews and Christians alike.

Prager and Goode’s statement opens the door for discrimination against Jews and Christians as well. What if Jews are then required to take an oath of office only on a New Testament Bible (in fact, many Jewish members of Congress, including Senator Lieberman have taken their oath of office on Old Testament bibles). If the New Testament Bible is required, then which version should be mandated? The King James Bible? The Catholic Bible? What about those members of Congress who are Eastern Orthodox?

As pro Israel Jewish members of the Democratic Party, we abhor Prager’s suggestion that the United States should not recognize the legitimacy of a Muslim’s or Jew’s choice to be sworn in on her or his own holy book, even if only a minority of Americans regard that book as holy. The truth is that any member of Congress, or holder of any public office, should be permitted to be sworn in on the book of that persons choosing, or be sworn in on no book, if that is what the office holder so decides.

We are also frightened at this unnecessary display of hostility toward the equal rights of Muslim Americans, just as we found U.S. Rep. and Florida GOP Senate nominee Katherine Harris’ statement to the Florida Baptist Weekly, that, “if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin,” disturbing. It was not too long ago that Jews were subject to the similar discrimination.

If we start imposing religious litmus tests on the choice of text an elected official is permitted to use when taking the oath of office, then we really will be undermining the basic core of American civilization as enshrined in the Bill of Rights, which is autonomy for the individual’s freedom of conscience in matters of religion.

Since Dennis Prager is a registered Republican and Virgil Goode is a Republican Congressman, we call upon the Republican Jewish Coalition to condemn what Prager has written about Representative Ellison. Republican members of Congress such as U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, have already come to Mr. Ellison’s defense against Prager’s rantings. In the name of decency, fair play, and the United States Constitution, we call upon the Republican Jewish Coalition to do the same thing.

Posted by Andrew Lachman
December 28, 2006 9:54 PM | Reply | Permalink