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Update: GOP Senator Breaks Silence over Goode's Anti-Muslim Comments

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On ABC's This Week, Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC) took issue with Rep. Virgil Goode's (R-VA) recent comments urging a curtailment of immigration to the United States by Muslims from Middle Eastern countries.

Graham said he didn't think Goode's comments, prompted by the furor over whether newly-elected Muslim congressman Keith Ellison (R-MN) would use a Koran in a private swearing-in ceremony, were "the appropriate line for a congressman to take," according to a transcript by Raw Story.

"We need immigration reform, but not for the reasons that Mr. Goode cited," Graham added later.

Update: Josh has the transcript of the exchange here.


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Is Grahm really sure he is a Repub? I am thinking that he is more along the lines of a Dem. Thank God the Repubs are such morons they will continue to try to pass of candidates who's message was resoundingly panned in the last election. If Grahm was to run then there would be trouble. Instead, they will continue to do the same thing expecting different results.

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good for him.

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Don't worry, Darren, Goode did manage to work in the administration's idea that we should never talk to Iran or Syria (even though the objectionable Ahmadinejad has nothing to do with Iran's foreign policy). So he's continuing with the Republican idea that diplomacy should only be a last resort, after all military options have failed.

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But what's Goode going to do about the TWO BUDDHISTS elected to Congress?

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The forcing of denunciations is a method of totalitarianism. That is what we are seeing now on TV. Those asked to do it should say this is a totalitarian ritual they decline.

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Geez, enough about Goode already.

You guys have until quite recently provided a hell of a blog. What's with the obsession?

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"Several muslim countries along the North African coast had established the tradition of plundering the ships of European and American merchants in the western Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic, capturing the crews and then demanding ransom from the respective governments for their release. In a joint message to their superiors in Congress, Adams and Jefferson described the audacity of these terrorist attacks, pirates leaping onto defenseless ships with daggers clenched in their teeth. They had asked the ambassador from Tripoli, Adams and Jefferson explained, on what grounds these outrageous acts of unbridled savagery could be justified: "The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of the prophet, that it was written in their koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their [islams] authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners...." From AMERICAN SPHINX The Character of Thomas Jefferson by Joseph J. Ellis.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/35803
Paintings of the torture at link, Old Atlantic.
My security code is fear. Fear of Islam by non-Muslims is commanded by God in the Koran.

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Bin Laden 1998 Fatwa same as 1770's Ambassador
Bin Laden 1998 Fatwa quote

On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it,

end quote. From PBS. It is the same as what the Ambassador from Tripoli said. Why? Because both are right, it is from the Koran. Their God commands this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international /fatwa_1998.html

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"Muslim congressman Keith Ellison (R-MN)"

Hahaha, a Muslim Republican congressman. That slip-up creates a rather amusing mental picture.

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If Republicans cave in and condemn Goode, we're done.

I do not agree with everything he wrote --- America is a nation of immigrants though not enemy combatant immigrants ---- but there is one thing that is beyond dispute. 1) Islam has decared war against America. If you do not understand this I cannot help you. 2) Keith Ellison is a radical Muslim of the worst sort. Ellison associates with and raises money from radical Muslim terrorists. Coucil on American Islamic Relations is a terrorist group. They supported Ellison.

So what gives with Goode? He said what millions of Americans only think. Millions of Muslims world-wide want to kill us and Keith Ellison is with them. So?

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Steve

You know the thoughts and wishes of 1.5 Billion Moslems around the world. Christians are supposed to go out and convert the non-believers. So Islam is prohibited from doing the same thing. And Steve, by the way. Islam recognizes the existance of Jesus and calls him one of the great Phrophets. Islam doesn't recoginze Jesus as the son of God only a phrophet. Would you expel all Mormans who claim Joesph Smith was also a prohet of God.

Get real Steve and lose the bigotry.

We invaded a Moslem country ala the Crusades and their supposed to like it.

Do you believe fro one second if the Chinese or Russians invaded the US, we would all not become guerilla fighters.

And VG is a FOOL. Kieth Ellison is a convert to Islam. He is not an imigrant and so noting VG says would have prevented Ellison form becoming a member of Congress. Whether Ellison swears on the Star Trek tech manual or the Quran the Constitution states that there will never be a religous test for office.

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Steve-- do you trust your fellow Americans so little?

Keith Ellison was won a primary campaign against several other candidates; then won a three-way race with a Republican and an independent.

The people of his district ELECTED him to his post. Who the hell are you to second guess them?

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FB-- do you trust your fellow Americans so little?


The people of his district ELECTED Virgil Goode to his post. Who are you to second guess them?

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I don't advocate this logic, but shouldn't you apply this to yourself first FB. Even if you live in Goode's district, then all those who don't and have called him bigot are excluded. Also, if you live there and voted against him, aren't you in the minority in that district. It would seem if you voted against him you should't criticize him either, since he won.

If you voted for him, did he win by more than one vote?

So we have the FB rule

A person elected in a district who receives a margin of victory of more than one vote can not be criticized.

Therefore Goode is not a bigot.

My security code is regret. FB don't you regret trying to pick the mote from Steve's eye before removing the log from your own?

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Graham and Goode both assume that if you're a Muslim you can't be a good American. As many assumed that Japanese-born citizens could not be good Americans (though German-born citizens were considered fine Americans) during WW II.

Our Constitution and Bill of Rights protect our rights to follow ANY religion of our choice (Christianity, Catholocism, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, etc), and to be treated as equals as U.S. Citizens.

Graham and Goode both assume -- incorrectly -- that if you put your hand on the Koran, you're swearing to be a good Muslim. Nobody swears fealty to the Bible (or the Koran) when they take the oath of office. They swear on their own holiest book to be good Representatives and to be good Americans.

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Name callers are removing own media from serious, important discussion. By calling Virgil Goode a bigot and making Republicans do it, the MSM, TV and print have removed themselves as a place to discuss rationally Muslim Immigration, Islam, etc.
They did that with the Danish Cartoons as well.

That is why their circulation goes down. PC liberalism removes important real topics from the MSM and each one of those decreases circulation because the MSM are just a place for liberals to vent hate on Goode as a person, i.e. its their own racist Gladiatorial Arena.

The attacks and questions of Republicans show that. This was an arena of feeding Republicans to the Lions. That is removing itself from the stage of serious discussion. Their sales fall. So does trust.

The MSM and the left are not trusted because for 40 years they deny more and more actual facts that people experience from being discussed.

The Left doesn't get it, people saw 9-11 on TV. That can't be taken from their minds. Leftist 9-11 denial, including blaming it on Israel or demolition or Bush is nonsense. Saying it wasn't
Islam is the same nonsense. Bin Laden said so.

When the left says we can't talk about 9-11 including Islam, they just expose themselves as liars. When they call people bigots who try to talk, they are seens as haters and as censors.

When they deny Muslim genocide or says its not important, or that the Koran isn't linked to it, they remove themselves from the conversation and are just thugs who shout and threaten Republicans.

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"The people of his district ELECTED Virgil Goode to his post. Who are you to second guess them?"

I'm not second guessing the people who voted for Virgil Goode. I can only assume that they're either ignorant of their Representative's intolerance, or that they share his bigotry. More's the pity.

All of which is beside the point. THe people who voted for Keith Ellison chose their US Representative in a free and fair election. It's not up to Virgil Goode to second guess their decision any more than it is up to Keith Ellison to second guess the voters of Goode's district.

"A person elected in a district who receives a margin of victory of more than one vote can not be criticized."

A lovely strawman, Old One, but anyone with three neurons to rub together and a passing familiarity with the English language will understand that I never said that Rep. Ellison *could not be criticized.* Criticizing his *religion*, however, marks the critic as an intolerant bigot.

Thus I can say that Virgil Goode and Old Atlantic are un-American, intolerant bigots who's allegiance to white supremacy as obvious as a pointy hat in the light of a burning cross.

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"Name callers are removing own media from serious, important discussion. By calling Virgil Goode a bigot and making Republicans do it, the MSM, TV and print have removed themselves as a place to discuss rationally Muslim Immigration, Islam, etc."

Is it name calling to call a Buick a Buick, Old One? Is it name calling to call a spade a spade?

Is it name calling to call you a damnable bigoted white supremacist?

Based on your posts on this thread, I'd say not.

FB

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He damned well BETTER swear his oath on the Koran; that will bind him to the oath.....on the Bible is simply crossing his fingers.

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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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I totally disagree with what Goode has said. He does not represent the United States. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic religions and go hand in hand. If he read into Islam and not pick up from the one sided media you have in the US about Islam he would not have made those remarks. If this is about religion, does he know what god said to Abraham when Hagar was ousted by Sarah? You guys don't even know your own religion and are throwing stones while still living in glass houses! Any how America itself is a mongrel nation, the true residents are the American Indians or has that also been wiped from your tiny recent history!

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Nothing is ever black or white. Of course Muslims can be good citizens. However, way too many prove each day around the world they can not.

Perhaps we need to HAVE the debate over who and how many muslims we let immigrate to this country, under what circumstances, and how well we check their backgrounds.

An easy first step: Known Radical Imam's should be barred entry. Is that even debatable? Start the discussion, and continue. Should we allow large numbers? Looking at Europe and Australia, there appears to be a 'tipping point' above which Muslims stop assimilating and start invoking THEIR right to change the host society.

It's not racism, it's common sense. Drop the knee-jerk political correctness. All cultures are NOT equal, and a sizeable minority of Muslims need to be barred from the West.

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