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OK, indulge me just a little bit more.

This morning, I wrote about Julie MacDonald, the Bush appointee at the Fish and Wildlife Service, who, when she isn't ignoring agency scientist recommendations about endangered species, spends her time emailing copies of internal documents to industry lobbyists. MacDonald, in my humble opinion, is vying with General Services Administration chief Lurita Doan for Hack of the Week.

Just for an extra special view into MacDonald's mind, here's another highlight from the inspector general's report (pdf). In this episode, MacDonald unwinds by sharing internal agency documents with a virtual friend and demonstrates that she trusts the feedback of her fellow gamer, who's apparently quite young, and her child over agency scientists:

MacDonald confirmed that she also sent the Delta Smelt document [the Delta smelt fish is an endangered species] to an on-line game friend through his father's e-mail account. MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing games. She said she engages in these games to relieve the stress created by her job; however, she said she has not played while at work. When asked why she would e-mail an internal [Department of Interior] document to a private citizen, MacDonald replied, "I was irritated [with what was happening regarding the subject of the document] and tried to explain my irritation over the phone; however, I sent it to him to read for a better understanding."

MacDonald could offer no explanation as to why she sent her child an e-mail containing an internal DOI/FWS document other than she feels frustrated at times and likes to have third party reviews of these documents. MacDonald opined that she sent FWS documents to the on-line game friend and her child to have another set of eyes give an unfiltered opinion of them, negative comments included.

Ed. Note: Thanks to TPM Reader PT.


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McDonald, from the CV posted by John Callender (thanks for the work, John)in the comments section in "wrote about Julie MacDonald,"here at TPMuckraker.com, held her first government job in 1979, she is hardly a "youngster." If she were hired right out of college, with a masters as the CV states, she would be in her 50's. link to CV: http://www.doi.gov/news/040503b

Do the math: 1979- 6 (years to get a masters) = 1973, year she would have graduated from high school, at about 18 years old. 1973-18= 1955,or year she was born, making her 52, or something near that.

I think there is a naive comfort for critics of this administration to write off the transgressions to underqualified "youngsters." That is not true, most are boomers, and they certainly knew exactly what they were doing.

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Julie MacDonald is welcome to send internal government documents to me any time she likes and I solemnly promise to give my unvarnished, unbiased opinion. In fact, my offer is extended to anyone in the Bush administration who wants to disseminate internal government docs.

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How odd that this kind of stuff never saw the light of day until just a few months ago. I wonder what's changed? Oh, yeah, now I remember...

Better get more rakes.

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I can understand the earlier negative comment about her manipulation of agency science, but we aren't exactly talking about state secrets here.

Any of this stuff would be subject to FOIA anyway, so who cares who she sent it to?

If it wouldn't create bandwidth issues I wouldn't bat an eye if every voting age citizen was CC'd on every government email and "internal document" out there.

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I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration.

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There's a reason these documents are internal. Just speaking in my own field, agriculture, there are a lot of farmers, agribusinesses and other sorts who'd like to get a holt of internal USDA stuff before it's officially announced, so they could position themselves accordingly.

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**Any of this stuff would be subject to FOIA anyway, so who cares who she sent it to?**

I'm not so concerned with her being a gamer. I can get beyond her sending what probably isn't a particularly sensitive document to a lay person that she's never met.

But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? That doesn't seem real normal to me. Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs. Robinson vibe from this whole thing?

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"I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration."

That would probably make her a low level paladin, which sounds about right for this type of hack. Takes forever to get anything done, and at the first sign of real danger, she bubbles and hearths home to the RNC.

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aplomb wrote:
"I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration."

Dude! You gotta stop doing that! When I laugh that hard my boss comes out to see what I'm up to.

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As Homer Simpson might say,
"If you're going to point out every incompetent and corrupt hack I hire, I'm just going to have to stop hiring incompetent and corrupt hacks - D'Oh."*

I can understand the argument that people with say there is just a Democratic witch hunt - when Clinton was investigated for everything he did, I thought it was a Republican witch hunt. The different here it really does seem that if you pick out a random administration official s/he would have done something corrupt.

I think Bush and Karl are counting on the fact that noone could possibly believe they are that stupid and that corrupt - Bush just has to say "Look, they're going after the Fish and Wildlife person who's been involved with the Interior department for 25 years. It's obviously a partisan witch hunt." And a lot of people who aren't actually looking at the charges and the evidence will probably agree.

I find it all very distrubing, especially because I'm thinking, except for a few people, they'll all get away with it. I'm not even sure if they'll be able to force Gonzales out anymore.

*if you're curious, the original quote was something like Homer:"If you're going to get mad at me everytime I do something stupid, I guess I'm just going to stop doing stupid things." Marge: "Good." Homer:"D'Oh"

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Wait, what's this "Summons to Appear Before Congress" all about? I can't find anything about it in the magic-users manual...

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aplomb's comment is the driest, pithiest zinger I've read in a long, long time. Well done.

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"MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing games."
What role was this friend playing?

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"But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? That doesn't seem real normal to me. Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs. Robinson vibe from this whole thing?"

I'll take this a step further.

In light of efforts being made to avoid WH controls over phones and emails, and folks getting excited that they now have a shiny new RNC-paid for BlackBerry so they can "really talk". When do you think that the staff is going to turn to World of Warcraft, Halo or Second Life to have conversations out of the reach of Congress and a newly re-focused Dept of Justice**?

Mike in Austin

** In the future, the DOJ will root out public corruption, not assist in covering it up. And we'll all have flying cars.

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I'd bet fifty bucks the video game is Second Life. I say that because conversation isn't really a big part of any other computer game, and because the Second Life demo is friendly for females over 40. Lots of middle-aged women there.

Anyone who cherishes the act of publicly embarrassing Bush hacks could try to find her avatar in SL. Avatars tend to be rather 'enhanced' human body shapes--yes, huge breasts--and include attachments for all kinds of activities--yes, genitals.

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Presumably, Ms. MacDonald sent internal agency research to a friend's child because she wanted someone more insightful and analytical than she to read and summarize it for her.

Ms. MacDonald, like Ms. Doan, treats her agency as Bush appointees have typically treat them: as if they were a franchise bought and paid for, which has to return a profit for her and her friends, and for Mr. Bush.

Perhaps Mss. MacDonald and Doan should try to relax, read a little something to take their minds off their troubles, The Pit and the Pendulum, maybe.

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Paladins are lawful good, IIRC.

members of this administration are a lot of things, but Lawful Good ain't one of them.

Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil, those are your only two choices when you look inside the D + D: Bush Administration Creature Folio.

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I can't believe you guys didn't find out which game this was! And you call yourselves investigative journalists!

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Timing, Fluffy, is everything. Like whether you tell co-opted foreign intelligence assets before you publish the name of their CIA contact - or after. The difference can sometimes be measured in millimeters, sometimes 9, sometimes 7.65.

More prosaically, revealing unfinalized, internal agency deliberations can lead to grave and illegal abuses. It can allow a lobbyist wrongfully to influence agency policy, or give others an unfair advantage. It can allow someone to buy or sell something, making an illegal profit. Even inadvertent disclosure can cause huge headaches. Ask anyone who's had their govt computer stolen.

Julie MacDonald knew it was wrong and did it anyway because she thought no one was minding the store. What a street kid does in a shop, or a lobbyist in a Washington populated by a sleeping Congress. "The Sleeper has Awoken."

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""MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing games."
What role was this friend playing?

Posted by: Sully18
Date: March 30, 2007 05:10 PM"

Bottom?

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OK all you dirty minds, just stop now with the "isn't it weird and sleazy that this old lady is talking to young guys she met on the internet?"

Puullleeaze. I am a "middle-aged" female, I've been playing online games since 1994, (I lasted about 3 minutes in Second Life because the UI is so bad I couldn't figure out how to move) and I have many many male friends younger than I am, from my playing and even some amateur game development projects. I talk to them on voice chat, and the conversation sometimes goes to real world issues. If there were a political discussion I might well end up sending them some article of interest or such. I've certainly exchanged things like CD's and books.

I don't think the woman should be confounding her gaming with her job, oh please, but let's not get all "ooooh, how STRANGE it is that an 'older' woman talks to younger men."

It's the internets, bud. Times have changed. People aren't stuck in ruts about age and gender like they used to be, thank God. Some of the best and most trusted friends I have, people I have known for over a decade now, I made through online RPG games.

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Message to aplomb: Huh?

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I hope the issue is not gaming - which would damn every teenager and a good chunk of adults.

I hope the issue is that Ms. MacDonald was mindless enough to send off internal agency deliberation papers to someone not only outside her dept, but someone she hadn't met. Let me think what the Chinese or North Koreans or Iranians might do with that one. They wouldn't even need the stuff itself. Just having gotten it could put the official in enough peril that they or his or her govt sponsors "bend a little".

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But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? That doesn't seem real normal to me. Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs. Robinson vibe from this whole thing?
Posted by: Seitz
Date: March 30, 2007 03:57 PM

Have you ever stopped to consider that her Dungeons & Dragons buddy, all 13 years of him (or her, or whatever), was her best source of professional advice, given her surroundings? I mean, look at the retards that these guys appoint to government agencies these days, ya know, former horse tamers to run FEMA and what not, shit - this kid may be smarter than than the entire Interior Department combined at this point.
Randy

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Great....the one WH Dept. that seems to actually have documents is sending them to an unknown person.
Meanwhile, when we really WANT the darn things....

maybe Waxman can learn to play that online game....

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Please don't tar the Fish and Wildlife Service with this corrupt Bush patsy.

She is the deputy assistant secretary for fish, wildlife and parks.

Again, she works for the Department of the Interior, not the Fish and Wildlife Service.

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Fluffy, you're dead wrong. The IG's report states specifically that the document that MacDonald shared with her teenage gaming buddy was not subject to FOIA.

However, it might be subject to level four magic missiles or a level six cure special wounds.

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On occasion, folks do discuss 'RL' matters. I've reviewed resumes for some (I'm an exec type who enjoys Warcraft.) I've also seen some interesting discussions on all manner of subjects, and even true mourning after a guildmember died of cancer.

So, some of these connections are quite real.

That said, even the realist of real world connections is no excuse for this kind of behavior. Valuing the opinion of a friend with no relavent expertise.

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Watched the first four and a half hours of the Doan hearing. Poor lil Lurita: don't you know she is the victim here? All those nasty folks questioning her authority, while she tries to be both cutesy and truculent at the same time. I mean if being cutsey isn't enough, what has the world come to? Poor, poor Lurita.

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Somebody should do a profile of MacDonald for Gaming Magazine.

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I think everyone has the wrong take on the online gaming stuff. Whether her "friend" is 13 or 33, I can guarantee you that he has an email address. Nobody who frequents online gaming sites is so backwards as to not have a *some* kind of Yahoo or Gmail account.

So why did she send it to her friend's father? Why not straight to him?

Or is the father her real friend and the online gamer an post-discovery explanation, the IG Report equivalent of "these ain't my pants"?

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Actually I know how to find her in Second Life (I'm assuming she's in SL). Just look for the property with the, ugly, green polluted water, dead fish, brown grass and the Dick Cheney submissive avatar chained to a sawhorse.

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This is almost too good to make fun of. Almost. So I'll go low-brow:
I'd rather have Delt(a) it than Smelt it.

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It must be Warcraft that she's playing. That's insane. It's troubling too. People get seriously addicted to that. My cousin went through it. My guess is that people probally treated her with contempt at work because she didn't know WTF she was doing. So she goes home, takes a vicatin and a box of wine, and logs on as a nightelf for 6-8 hours a night. Not unheard of at all for WoW players. I bet she seriously thought her "guild" members were the only ones she could trust. And if she has to say she never played it at work, she sure as hell played it at work.

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But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? That doesn't seem real normal to me. Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs. Robinson vibe from this whole thing?
Posted by: Seitz
Date: March 30, 2007 03:57 PM

This sounds a bit like a simple intelligence-field trick. A brief description:

The significant recipients of these emails are NOT the people who obviously received them. The email accounts, or the computers of their owners, have been compromised by either hacking or simply giving out passwords.

The real owner of the email account / FTP server / instant-messenger account / whathaveyou doesn't even need to know you don't really care about them reading. In fact it plays to your advantage if the apparent recipient believes s/he was the rightful recipient of the information.

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"sounds about right for this type of hack. Takes forever to get anything done, and at the first sign of real danger, she bubbles and hearths home to the RNC.
Posted by: Aredubya
Date: March 30, 2007 03:57 PM"

It's a real joy to me that bubblehearth jokes a spreading beyond the lands of Azeroth. ;-D

Thanks for the chuckle.

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"It must be Warcraft that she's playing. That's insane. It's troubling too. People get seriously addicted to that."

Insane and troubling. Yes, and every wine connoisseur is a drunken wino.

Honestly, some ppl here need to get out more. "My =cousin= went thru it...??"

And if all you ever played is WoW, you still need to get out more. ;)

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I'm struck by noting that all of us are so sure our behavior is perfectly normal. If we do it, there can't be anything wrong with it.

This dame is a government employee in a high level position, who is so clueless she sends departmental documents to an unknown person she "knows" because she plays children's games with him/her on the internet, and wants his/her opinion about those documents. There are a lot of things you can say about this, but "normal" isn't one of them.

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So she sought out the documents to get the policy advice of children. And if she'd sent it to her Republican policy brethren, would it have been better?

At least these kids didn't try to argue that in order to save Delta Smelt we needed to dismantle Social Security and declare war on Paraguay.

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eyesonthestreet is off by a couple of years, but not by much. MacDonald does not have an engineering masters--she got what looks like an MBA, so it must have been later. So the calculation is off by 2 years, which would make her about 50. Still, even with that, she would have at least a high-school if not a college aged child. I wish we could stop speculating on this sort of specifics (sorry--reporters are speculating, we just repeat their speculations) and get accurate information.

But I have a different question about this hack--unlike Doan, she's been doing this for nearly 30 years.

Read the CV carefully. She started in a minor government engineering job (hydraulic engineer) in 1979. It looks like she got her MBA in 1987, when she bailed out of the federal government. Still, most of her career at that point had been under Reagan. She moved to Cal state legislature, where she was "staff consultant" and then "senior staff to the minority leader". Since all of this was before Pete Wilson's governorship, that means "Republican". Then she worked for Wilson--that's another level of hackery. But note the last sentence in the announcement--she was basically a staff hack pushing a environmental bill through. This sums up the ENTIRETY of her experience with environmental regulations!

Her engineering background has not been in play for 20 years, she has no science background and her entire experience with environmental regulations has been smooth-talking state legislators into passing a single bill. In this administration, she's a prime candidate for a promotion to a position where she can exercise her scientific judgment.

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I'm sure that we can get Republican hack Roger Pielke Jr. to tell use that this is no different than what happened in prior administrations.

http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/hearings/Testimony.aspx?TID=16

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"MacDonald opined that she sent FWS documents to the on-line game friend and her child to have another set of eyes give an unfiltered opinion of them, negative comments included."

Aha: Lawyers hoping to have legal advise from unqualified children who have no education or standing before the bar.

Children are running America, while warriors run the insurgency in Iraq. Children have a hard time engaging with experienced warriors.

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Q. What's the difference between the Bush administration and a Boy Scout troop?

A. The Scouts' have adult supervision.

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Remember the rightwing pundits after Bush was installed in 2000 saying "thank goodness the grownups are in charge now".
Really?
Ask a kid what she thinks about endangered species. Maybe this is part of the Bush administration's quest to get "unfettered advice" so the Decider could make his big decisions. That was the excuse they used to stonewall the Energy task force investigation, the US attorney purge, Karl Rove's machinations, and a long list of et ceterae.

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Is she related to Martin MacDonald of Bass Pro Shops?

Martin MacDonald, director of corporate public relations, conservation and youth development for Bass Pro Shops.
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/generalInterest/RefWeekAwards_2004.html

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so .... julie macdonald has an online relationship with a minor child? how did she find this child? does the child's parent know?

how creepy is this?

code word "linen" as in dirty.

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Following rules and regulations will be acted upon.2) In future UN Peace Force would be given the command of forces of all The Countries and UN Peace Force will decide whether to wage a War against any Terrorist Country or not.3) In future UN Peace Force will be Independent to take any timely Action against Terrorist Country.4) Under the UN Security Council Resolution, UN will take the charge of all Armament Producing Factories of the World in future. And in the said Factories the production would be curtailed to 25% only, and the rest of 75%Production would take place in the form of Cars, Buses, Trucks, Tractors, Trains, Ships, Aero Planes and Latest Machinery.5) After tacking the charge of all the International Forces, UN Peace Force will convert 25% of army into UN Peace Force, and rest of the 75% will be? Be Appointed to build, Dams, Canals, Roads, Schools, Colleges, Universities, Hospitals, Sports Complexes, Heavy Industries and projects of Oil, Gas and Minerals. 6) UN Security Council will pass a resolution, under which it will take of all the Weapons of Mass Destruction into its custody and will dispose of gradually in future; peaceful use of Atomic Energy would be promoted in all the countries. Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.7) Subject: The Powerful, Developed countries should not initiate the 3rd World War. The rich nations in spite of their victory will have to face the Destruction of their Defense Power and Economy in the Long Gorilla War.1) According to Agha Dilbar s research on War against Terrorism Rich and Developed Countries of the World should never take an emotional step of Initiating the War on the bases of their Defense and their EconomicPower2) If their exist such few Terrorist Countries, then to destroy such Countries War should be fought from the platform of UN Peace Force .3) Rich and Powerful Countries should remember that due to state Terrorism In Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq the bloody events Like 9/11 could take hundred times in revenge.4) If Rich and Powerful Nations do not take a positive and strong step To Stop the State Terrorism in Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya through UN Peace Force and instead they start aimless 3rd World War, then their would be Hundred Times more Suicidal Terrorist Attacks in revenge.5) According to Agha Dilbar s research, in the wake of 3rd World War, Twenty Crore innocent people will fall prey to death .6) In the wake of expected 3rd World War Rich and Powerful Nations in Spite of becoming victorious will have to face a worst Gorilla War in theNext5, 10, 20 years, which will destroy the Defense and Economic Power of Victorious countries.7) According to Agha Dilbar s Research, World Terrorism and Suicidal Bombing Should be rooted out through UN Peace Force or through Table Talk.8) It is the best Advice to Rich and Powerful Nations from Agha Dilbar That Instead of staging 3rd World War they should keep the veneration of the Global village and its people and try to solve the disputed problems Through UN Table Talk and take the step of Friendship for mutual Progress and Prosperity. Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.8) Subject: A New Plan of Agha Dilbar for solutions of disputes between Enemy Countries instead War or Terrorism and convert them to promote, Friendship Mutual Progress and Prosperity1) The disputed issues should be resolved through Table Talk instead of War or Terrorist Activities, between enemy countries.2) The enemy countries should launch mutual Cultural Shows on permanent basis.3) The disputed enemy countries start on large scale mutual Import /Export Facility on Barter Treaty.4) The Disputed Enemy Countries should provide mutual Scholarships to their Talent Students on equal basis.5) The disputed enemy countries should sign Mutual Pacts to construct Schools, Colleges, Universities and Hospitals for welfare purposes.6) The disputed enemy Countries should sign pacts for reducing the Arms and Engaging their Armies for construction of Dams, Canals, Highways, Bridges, Sports Complexes, Schools, Colleges, Universities, Hospitals, Airports, Sea Ports and Heavy Industries.7) The disputed enemy countries should co-operate to finish Terrorism In their countries on equal basis.8) The disputed enemy countries should start mutual Economic Programmed for giving Jobs to Doctors, Engineers, Mechanics, Electricians and Labor on equal basis in their countries.9) The disputed enemy countries should sign mutual pacts to construct Dams, Canals, Motorways, Bridges, Five star Hotels, Airports, Seaports and Heavy Industries. With the help of above Agha Dilbar plan the disputed enemy countries would be able to solve disputes and stop War and Terrorist Activities. Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.9Subject: According to Agha Dilbar s research, what type of acute? Horrible and dreadful problems, World Community will have to face during and after The coming 3rd World War.1) If UN fails to avert the coming 3rd World War, which would be fought with Traditional Weapons, under these circumstances, World Community will have to Face the following expected terrible results.2) Powerful and Rich countries after making continuous attacks and Capturing At least four countries within the next few months, the 3rd World War would start Formally and it will continue for the next one year.3) In the coming 3rd World War, the allies of Powerful Rich Countries would Be Hundred in Number, and the Weak and Poor Countries against these Would also be Hundred.4) In the coming 3rd World War, around 20 Crore Innocent People would fall Prey to death, and about 50 Crore would get crippled.5) Due to the 3rd World War, about One Billion People homeless and Jobless after destruction of their cities, and they will have to live a Nomadic Life In the open places for the next 5, 10 or 20 years.6) During and after the 3rd World War there will be a 75% decline in The Business of Agriculture, Industry, Trade, Tourism, Import and Export in The Next 5 years.7) After the 3rd World War, there will be a chain of Bloody Revolutions In The Rich Develop Countries and Poor Underdeveloped Countries due to Inflation, Unemployment, Lawlessness and Corruption.8) To avert all these terrible consequences of the 3rd World War, I Agha Dilbar request UN and World Community to instead of making the Global Village a Fire, Terrorism and War, they should try to solve the burning Issues through Table Talk or UN Peace Force in a Friendly, Progressive and Prosperous way . Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.10) Subject: A Grate Peace Plan for UN and International Community to save The World coming on 3rd World War I Agha Dilbar put a Great Peace Plan, War against Terror, for the sake of World Community. I appeal UN to act upon my Great Peace Plan Unconditionally for the sake of World Peace.1) All countries of the World should make the strongest UN Peace Force.2) UN Peace Force should be given full authorities for the sake of World Peace in Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Sari lanka and Nepal etc where Peace Plan may be implemented war effected areas and all administrative authorities may allotted to the UN Peace Force till the Peace Restored completely4) I Agha Dilbar am afraid that the World Community may enter into the3rd World War, because of such disputes among the above mentioned Nations, are Acting may induce the bloody war. Which can increase losses of life and Economy Hundred Times? Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.11) Subject: World Community must support the Great Peace Plan of Agha Dilbar to stop the horrible, dreadful 3rd World War and World Terrorism1) For stopping the 3rd World War, which may erupt as a result of? Retaliation in Philistine, Kashmir, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq State Terrorism, the World Community should support Agha Dilbar s Great Peace Mission. For this purpose, peace rallies should be organized in all big Cities as the next 3rd World War may take 200 Million innocent human Lives, besides crippling 500 Million People and starving, homeless One Billion People in addition to carrying inherent danger of Economic Crises.2) The World Community should awaken International awareness for making The UN Peace Force as the strongest Peace Enforcing Body having its control over Armies of all UN Member Countries.3) Apparently, Agha Dilbar s Great Peace Mission is a weak but truthful Concept, which with the help of World Community will compel the strong And Superpower armies to surrender before UN.4) The World Community should keep in mind that their support of this Great Peace Mission will change the 3rd World War and World Terrorism into Friendship Progress and Prosperity then the World will enter into a new Golden era. Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.12) Subject: Next 3rd World War is the Oil and Economic Interest War, which will Bring numerous International Revolutions between the Conquers and Concurred Nations1) World Community must remember that next 3rd World War is represented Religious War. Infect above mention war is the Oil and Economic Interest War.2) Next 3rd World War is the Oil and Economic Interest War, which will bring Numerous International Revolutions between the Conquers and Concurred Nations.3) International Anti-war demonstrations will play historic role to Stop the 3rd World War.4) The beginning of 3rd World War will prove strong grip of bureaucracy on the Democratic Institutions.5) The suspension of 3rd World War will crush the strong grip of International Bureaucratic Institutions. Agha Dilbar s Urgent Peace Letter No.13Subject: Agha Dilbar,s Practical Steps for Peace Mission and International Community Awareness1) All the vehicles throughout the World should affix a sticker saying "Peace not War"2) Posters with the same slogan," Peace not War" should be displayed at all Public Places, like Shops, Showrooms, Hotels, Restaurants, Clubs, Schools, Colleges, Hospitals and Factories.3) World famous Singers, TV, Film and Stage Artists should present Songs, Stage Shows, Dramas and Films with this theme," Peace not War"4) World Fame commercial and industrial organizations, Banks, Mills, Import Export and Insurance Concerns should advertise with this slogan: "PeaceNotWar"5) At International Level, Amnesty International and all the welfare NGO,S should organize public rallies of "Peace not War"6) The affected classes of World would be affected, 3rd World War, like Laborers Farmers Students, Women and Children should hold rallies in support of" Peace not War"7) The Social and Political Activists Teachers, Advocates, Politicians Intellectuals, World Famous Players and Social Workers should send E-mails(With a copy through International News Papers and Magazines) for Stoppage of War to those Head of States who are preparing for War.8) According to Agha Dilbar s Thesis, the only solution for preventing The Next 3rd World War is that the UN should be converted into the Worlds Strongest Peace Force instead of baseless speech forum. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.14Subject: To stop the 3rd World War all the Anti-War Countries should make use full strongest Media Radio, TV, Internet and Newspapers1) Anti-War Countries should make appeal for Peace not War the peace Loving People of the World.2) Anti-War Countries should prove their propaganda; the Superpowers of the World are fighting for the security of their wrong Economic, Oil andPowerInterest.3) Anti-War Countries should tell to the people of the World through their Media that next 3rd World War will become the cause Death of Two Hundred Million Innocent People and make Five hundred million People disabled.4) Anti-War Countries should tell the International Community that next3rdWorld War will become the cause of One Billion People Homeless and Unemployed. In this way they will live in Nomadic Life for the next5, 10 or20 years.5) Anti-War Countries should tell the International Community that next3rdWorld War will become the collapse of 75% International Business of Agriculture, Commerce, Industry, Tourism and Import Export. In this way all Rich and Poor Countries of the World will become the cause of Inflation, Unemployment Lawlessness and Corruption with consequences of Bloodshed. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.15Subject: A few Powerful Developed Countries want to Enforce Law of Jungle (Might is Right) after Conquering the World, International Community should Stand against it, Like an Iron Wall1) For controlling the Oil Resources of World, a few Developed Countries are Planning to enslave the International Community through next 3rd WorldWar.2) World Community should resist this move of Powerful Countries, who are Launching 3rd World War through false propaganda of Terrorism and Weapons of Mass Destruction.3) The recent announcement of these countries has proved their Falsehood That they will not hesitate to form a new International Organization, if UN Security Council does not support their War Mission.4) The World Community must continue Peaceful Rallies for stopping the3rdWorld War, so that 200 Million People can be sued from Death, 500Million>From being Crippled and One Billion from Starvation and becomingHomeless.5) The World Community should act upon Agha Dilbar s Great Peace Plan by Establishing Anti-War Peace Force under UN Control.6) Agha Dilbar appeal to International Newspapers, Magazines and TV News Channels that my Great Peace Plan is printed / broadcast on urgent Basis, so that World Community must know it for stopping the 3rd World War. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.16) Subject: Stop War against Iraq for the World s Peace). 1Agha Dilbar am warning the Developed Powerful Countries to stop the War against Iraq, which can Cause of next 3rd World War any time.2) UN to make strong action to stop the War against Iraq or UN will Break any time.3) World Community should start Peaceful Demonstrations immediately against War on Iraq otherwise 6-Billion People will become the victim of Worst Economic Crisis.4) Developed Powerful Countries after winning the War against Iraq, will be Engaged in long Gorilla War next 5, 10 or 20 years which will destroy their Defense and Economic Power.5) If the present War against Iraq continues 100% Suicidal Attacks can Take Place in Revenge.6) To stop the present Iraq War, it is Agha Dilbar s Great Peace Plan UN Peace Force goes in Iraq immediately for World Peace.7) In case War against Iraq continue, there can be 100% Increase World Terrorism and Suicide Attacks which can cause the complete destruction of International Economy. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.17Subject: World Community must help War Effected, Injured Iraqis1) Agha Dilbar appeals to UN, Head of States, World Red Cross that on Humanitarian grounds practical steps should be taken to help thousands of War Effected Iraqis.2) World Community should send Doctors, Nurses and Medicines to Iraq on Large scale and on Urgent Basis.3) Immediate Food is needed for thousands of War Effected Iraqis.4) Immediate steps should be taken for provision of Employment Resources to Hundred of Thousands of People in War affected Iraqis.5) UN and Red Cross Aid distributing Teams should be immediately sent to Iraq.6) Human Rights Missions should be sent to Iraq for inspecting Prisoners of War are being dealt according to Geneva Convention or not.7) UN Network should be immediately established in Iraq for Distribution of Aid, Medicines, Food, Drinking Water and Tents etc.8) Agha Dilbar specially appeals to all Muslim Countries and International Welfare NGO,s that immediate help to Iraqis be given in shape of Food, Medicines and Tents etc. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.18) Subject: Collation Forces after ceasefire in Iraq must go back to their Homeland, in other case Collation Forces after conquering Iraq will Back to Their countries with hundred thousand Dead bodies (Research by Agha Dilbar 1) After horrible and dreadful bombardment of Collation Forces in Iraq the Worst sentiments of International Community can take place against Collation Forces all over the World.2) Continuous horrible and dreadful War in Iraq will cause deaths of 10-Laks Iraqis and one lak Collation Forces in a long Gorilla War.3) Agha Dilbar advise Collation Forces they should not conquers Iraq for Iraqi Oil, in this way they can loose their Defense Power and Economy.4) Collation Forces can conquers Iraq after killing 10-Laks Iraqis, in Consequences, 100% Suicide Attacks can burst throughout the World against Collation Forces.5) Collation Forces decision to double their army in Iraq for their Victory will prove them a next Vietnam War.6) Collation Forces, keep in mind that Palestine,Labnan, Chechnya, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Iraq and iran cannot solve with Brute Force, in this way 9/11Type Incidences can take place against Collation Forces all over the World.7) Above-mentioned international disputes, Collation Forces should solve these disputes with the help of UN Peace Force, through Friendship, Progress and Prosperity. Agha Dilbar urgent Peace Letter No.19) Subject: According the rule of Might is Right, Collation Forces Conquered Iraq and than threatened Syria, Iran and North Korea.1) Collation Forces are blaming Syria, Iran and North Korea to Collecting Weapons of Mass Destruction and Terrorism.2) Now Collation Forces have started horrible and dreadful planning to Attack Syria and than Iran for their oil Resources interest.3) UN can become helpless, if Collation Forces kept on capturing many Weak and Undeveloped Countries one by one.4) Collation Forces want to make slave all the countries of the World with The new Jungle Law. (Might is Right) 5). World Community should Convert such Collation Forces to UN Peace Force as Strongest force of the World.6) Peace Loving people of the World should solve their disputes not with Brute Force and Terrorism. They should solve their differences through Friendship Progress and Prosperity with the practical help of UN Peace Force. Agha Dilbar Urgent Peace Letter No.20) Subject: The dream of Collation Forces to enforces Law of Jungle in World through use of power/cruelty will be resisted by World Community, as People all over the World have arisen and by becoming united they will crush Collation Forces in Iraq.1) For capturing oil resources of Iraq, the Collation Forces have started Aggression and worst bombing. People all over the World should condemn It.2) The aggression and cruelty, which the Collation Forces have started In Iraq is a plan to enslave the poor and weak nations. The World Community should take practical steps to stop this in Iraq.3) Agha Dilbar advises the Collation Forces that World can be conquered through Friendship, Progress and Prosperity instead of aggression andCruelty.4) The dangerous plan of Collation Forces to dissolve UN, which they have Prepared under influence of force, barbarity and cruelty, UN should Resist It with the help of World Community.5) The Collation Forces, for capturing oil resources of Iraq have started Mass Killings of thousands of Iraqis. Iraqi soil will revenge it and The World Super Power will get humiliating defeat like Russians in Iraq.6) World Community must condemn the false propaganda of Collation Forces that they are doing it for freedom of Iraqi people.7) The Collation Forces must remember that in retaliation to state Terrorism against Philistine People, a tragic incident like suicide attack of 9/11Took place. It is possible that in revenge of aggression in,Labnan, Afghanistan , Iraq,and now in iran. Many such like incidents may reoccur and never ending process may start. Agha Dilbar's Urgent Peace Letter No.21Subject: The Collation Forces through massive War Power trying to Enslave of Poor World. How to stop them? 1) Recently the Collation Forces have started War in the name of Iraqi Freedom its only solution is that the World Community by making a UN Peace Force the most powerful body should take immediate steps to control the Plot of Collation Forces for starting 3rd World War.2) The World Community, through powerful media, i.e. Radio, TV Internet, Newspapers, Magazines, should start media propaganda for Public Opinion building.3) The World Community through Economic Boycott of Collation Forces, should Hit their Economies through Media.4) The War Crimes of Collation Forces in Iraq should be made publicThroughMedia.5) The World Community should move to Intl Court of Justice against Collation Forces for damage to Iraq, People of Iraq and for withdrawal from Iraq.6) The Poor Countries, especially those with Oil Resources who will be First Targets of imperialist motives of Collation Forces, should start Campaign Through UN and other international Forums for their immediate Withdrawal and Establishing Democratic Govt in Iraq. Agha Dilbar's Urgent Peace Letter No.22Subject: A new plan by Agha Dilbar to curb World Terrorism, Suicidal Attacks And for permanent restoration of Peace.1) The present strategy of Collation Forces to fight against World Terrorism and for stopping of Suicidal Attacks by attacking on Poor Countries, is resulting in further 100% Terrorism.2) The sufferings people of Poor Countries, massive killings of their Innocent people, loss of proprieties and source of livings is making them Customized to Suicidal Attacks.3) This strategy of Collation Forces to attack on Poor Countries one by one In the name of curbing Terrorism, may result outbreak of 3rd World War at any time.4) The Collation Forces must remember that their continuous attacks on Poor Countries are generating Bloody Rebellions, Civil Wars and long Gorilla Wars with possibility of devastating World Economy.5) According to Agha Dilbar's Great Peace Plan, the Collation Forces And all Countries of the World should hand over their Army High Command to UN_PeaceForce.6) According to this Great Peace Plan proposed strongest UN_ Peace Force of the World should resolve International Disputes (As such Kashmir, Philistine, Chechnya. Afghanistan and Iraq etc.) Through Friendship Progress and Prosperity instead of Military Actions for curbing Terrorism and Suicidal attack. Agha Dilbar,s Urgent Peace Letter No.23Subject: Agha Dilbar s new plan "United States of the World"(USW) should Immediately adopt this Plan for Defense of Poor Nations and Welfare of Their People.1) The World Community with the help of France, Germany, Russia, Japan, China, other European, Asian, Arab, African, States should form an Institution like Nato and European Union.2) The Headquarter of this proposed Institution (USW) should be based at France , Germany or China and its Head should be elected annually through Voting of Member States.3) This Institution (USW) will take all actions including Military, Economic, Industrial, Agricultural, Commercial, Educational and Cultural under the Principles of UN.4) USW will ensure Regional Safety and Defense of its Member States.5) USW will take immediate and practical steps for assurance of SingleCurrency.6) By abolishing Travel Restrictions, USW will encourage Tourism among Member States.7) USW will encourage Free Trade by abolishing Tariffs.8) For Economic, Industrial Agricultural Commercial and Educational Development of its Poor Member States, USW will provide technology and Confessional (@1%) Long Term Loans.9) USW will establish Schools, Colleges, Universities, Hospitals, and Sports Complexes, Motor Ways, Dams, Canals and heavy Industries in its PoorMemberStates.10) USW will take measures to control Environmental Pollution in itsMemberStates.11) USW will resolve Regional Disputes of its Member States through Table Talk, Friendship, Progress, Prosperity instead of War and StateTerrorism.12) USW will take steps for reduction of Armaments and Atomic Weapons throughout the World.13) The Member States of USW will establish common banks, Airlines and Shipping Companies.14) For making Brotherhood among USW member States, Govt Level Concessions will be provided to Cultural Groups for Traveling, Hoteling and Entertainment Shows. Agha Dilbar Urgent Peace Letter No.24Subject: Collation Forces should remember that by their conquest of Poor Countries People of the World, instead of getting Peace, will become Victim of Suicide Attacks.1) By following Agha Dilbars principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity the World Community can establish permanent Peace in theWorld.2) Instead of relying on Supper Powers, the World Community should Hand Over, Command Forces of all countries to UN Peace Force, after making It the Mightiest War Power. In this way the UN should be the Global VillageSupperPower.3) USA, UK, Russia, India and Israel must remember that use of Indiscriminate and continues State Force in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Kashmir and Palestine will result in 100% Increase in Terrorism instead of Curbing it.4) The Collation Forces must forgo their dream of Capturing the World Through use of Force-they should remember that in this age of I.T. when World Is becoming A Global Village, the outdated rule of "Might is Right" of Previous 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th Centuries will not successes.5) I Agha Dilbar sincerely believe that only by adopting Principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity the Dream of World peace will Become a Reality after 5, 10, 50,100 years.6) The Collation Forces should not be mistaken that they will become a Cause of Peace and Progress after Conquering Poor Countries one by one; Rather Suicide Attacks World Over including Collation Countries, long Gorilla Wars will destroy World Economy.7) Collation Forces also remember that controlling World Terrorism by Enslaving Poor Countries (as Afghanistan and Iraq etc) Through War Machinery, killing of thousands innocent people, destruction of cities and Villages and eliminating employment sources, a new greater series of Suicide Attacks has started which can be controlled by abandoning use of BruteForce.8) World Community, Collation Forces, UN and Head of States all over the World Powerful Media, Radio, TV, Inter Net, Newspapers, Magazines should Propagate Principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity for Establishing of World Peace.9) Collation Forces must remember that capturing Poor Countries one by one will start 3rd World War. Collation Forces overseas consists of 2 Million Army, Fighters, Aircrafts, Navel Ships, Airfields, Latest Destructive Armaments, Is destroying World Economy. In retaliation to this, a never-ending Chain of Suicide Attacks will start engulfing the whole World Economy, Especially in USA, Europe, Africa, Middle East, Asia and Australia.10) UN must stop This Indiscriminate Use of Force by Collation Forces of the World it will have to face a fate like its predecessor the "League ofNations".10)The Collation Forces should not forget that naked use of Military Force The World Over is 100 times destroying World Peace and Economy. For get Rid of World Terrorism and Suicidal Attacks, only Principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity can make this World a Haven. Agha Dilbar's Urgent Peace Letter No.25Subject: The World Community has started March towards Peace in the Light of Agha Dilbar's Principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity.1) It is a pleasant news that Pakistan-India are preparing for talks to resolve Kashmir Dispute.2) Israel and Philistine are going to hold talks as per President Bush's Road Map instead of War and Suicidal Attacks.3) Russia has also agreed for talks with Chechens Gorilla Fighters.4) Keeping in view these facts and for strengthens peace process in the World. Agha Dilbar Appeals to Collation Forces to gradually withdraw>From Afghanistan and Iraq and under an International Agreement, UN Peace Forces should be deployed there till Normalcy.5) India, Israel, Russia, USA and UK must remember that as per research of Agha Dilbar in present Global Village Age, Peace is not possible by Conquering Weak countries on the pretext of Weapons of Mass Destruction and by State Terrorism, Mass Killings and destruction of Means of Production, rather use of Brutal Force will increase Suicide Attacks 100 Times resulting in Failure of World Economy. Agha Dilbar's Urgent Peace Letter No.26Subject: UN Peace Force should be displaced till Restoration of Peace In Internationally Disputed Arias of Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq.1) As per Research of Agha Dilbar for stoppage of Guerilla War in Internationally Disputed Arias like Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan and Iraq and for fully resolving other disputes. These Disputed Areas should be put under control of UN Peace Force.2) After taking control these disputed areas and bringing Army, Police and Administration under Command of UN Peace Force should resolve all Issues Through Table Talk in the light of Principles of Friendship, ProgressAndProsperity.3) UN Peace Force after taking charge of Kashmir, Palestine and Chechnya, Will order Indian, Israeli and Russian Armies to Vacate these DisputedAreas.4) Similarly it will Order Nato and collation forces to Withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq and go back to their Homeland.5) UN Peace Force, after taking Control, will conduct Free and Fair Elections in Afghanistan and Iraq within 2-years and will Handover Govt to Winning Political Parties. However UN Peace Force will remain thereTill3-years for full Restoration of Peace.6) According to Proposed Plan of Agha Dilbar, UN Peace Force will Remain in Deployed in Kashmir, Palestine and Chechnya for 5-years after signing of Peace Agreements Disputed Parties Groups and it is expected Normalcy will Return that Period.7) It is hoped that UN Peace Force will succeed getting rid of Long Gorilla Wars and Suicide Attacks in the lights of Golden Principles of Friendship, Progress and Prosperity with the help of UN Peace Force. Agha Dilbar, s Urgent Peace letter No.27) Subject: UN Security Council, through a Resolution for permanent World Peace will Order to Reduce 75% in the Defense Budgets of all Countries.1) UN at the International Level will Order the following Solid Steps To Maintain Peace and the Removal of Poverty.2) Under UN Orders, all the Nations of the World will renounce officially in the Reduction of their Defense Budgets 75%.3) Under suggested Defense Budget Plan, all the States will Reduce 75%InTheir Armies Sea, Air War Fare in the Production and Buying of Ammunition. According to Suggested Agha Dilbar s Revolutionary Plan, all the Nations will be bound to Spend their Savings made by Reduction of 75% in their Defense Budget in the following Plans. A) According to UN Order all the States will be bound to Provide Free Medical Aid Facilities to each and every Person. B) According to UN Orders all the Govt. Will Provide Free Education Facilities to each Person in future. C) According to UN Orders all the Govt. will Provide UN Employment Allowance to each Person till the age of 60-Years.D) According to UN Order all the Govt. Will Provide Old Age Allowance To Each Person after 60-Years till Death. E). According to UN Order all the Govt. Will Provide 20-Years Soft Bank Housing Loans to each Person. F) According to UN Orders all the Govt. Will Provide @1%Interest Bank Loans for Trade, Agriculture and Industrial Projects.Agha Dilbar, s Urgent Peace Letter No.28Subject: Throughout the world, UN should install, autonomous Institutions, UN Privatize Commissions (UNPC) to remove Poverty, Unemployment andCorruption.1) To privatize all the Govt Institutions in a transparent manner, Under the following rules and regulations of Autonomous Institutions will beEstablished.2) Suggested Institutions (UNPC) in all the countries will perform their duties as autonomous bodies.3) All the Executive Employees of suggested institutions (UNPC) will be recruited on Merit from other countries.4) Suggested Institutions (UNPC) during the next 5-years shall Privatize all the Banks, Water and Power, big Industrial Projects Health, Education, Agriculture and City Corporations etc in a TransparentManner.5) Throughout the world all the countries will not Privatize their Defense. Currency and Telecommunication. And they will run under GovtControl.6) Suggested Institutions (UNPC) shall be Privatize on such terms and Conditions that they will have to carry the same Businesses. In case of Violation of Rule, UNPC will take back these Institutions without anyPayment.7) Suggested Institutions (UNPC) shall be bound to sell all the Govt And Semi-Govt Institutions through their Stock Exchange in Shares.8) To bring forth the Suggested Institutions (UNPC) Decisions shall be Taking By Voting in the UN General Assembly.9) By establishing the Suggested Institutions (UNPC) at the International Level, the Privatization of all Govt and Semi-Govt will help in Alleviating the Poverty, Unemployment and Corruption all over the world. Agha Dilbar's Urgent Peace Letter No.29Subject: According to UN Security Council Order, all countries would Allocate @ 2% of their National Budget for UN Development Fund (UNDF).1) Suggested UNDF would be used for the following Development Programmed to Eradicate Poverty and Unemployment from the Developing, Backward andPoorCountries.2) Through UNDF Dams, Canals, Railways, Motorways, Heavy Industry and Five star Hotels will be built in the Backward and Poor Countries.3) UNDF will be spent on Oil, Gas and Mineral Projects in Backward andPoorCountries.4) UNDF will be spent on Schools, Colleges, and Professional Institutes, Universities, Hospitals and Sports Complexes will be Constructed in Backward and Poor Countries.5) Under Suggested UNDF Latest agriculture Farms, Poultry Farms, Cattle Farms, Fish Farms and Export Processing Zones would be built in Backward and Poor Countries.6) Suggested UNDF would be spent on Population Planning in Backward andPoorCountries.7) Suggested UNDF would be install Airways, Banks and Shipping Companies In Backward and Poor Countries.8) Under UNDF following Basic Industries would be installed in Backward and Poor Countries.1. Steel Mills 2.Car, Bus, Truck, Tractor industries 3.Textile Industry 4. Tires, Tubes and Shoes Industry 5. Medicine Laboratories 6. Engineering Industry 7.Electronic Industry 8. Computer Industry 9.Dry Milk Industry 10. Tin Pack Fruit Industry. Agha Dilbar, s Urgent Peace Letter No.30) Subject: To abolish Kick Backs at International Level, UN Anticorruption Commission (UNAC) should be established.1) Under the UN Resolution UN Security Council would be established, UN Anticorruption Commission (UNAC).2) Suggested (UNAC) would be authorized at the International Level to Take Stern preventive measures to control the Contacts of Kick Backs.3) Suggested UNAC would be authorized to take Hand over the Kick Back Cases Of Govt Officials, Ministers, Govt Contractors and Head of States to The International Court of Justice.4) Suggested UNAC would be authorized to charge Govt and their Head of States who would be found guilty of taking Kick Backs in the big Govt Contarcts.5) Suggested High Power International Institution (UNAC) would Confiscate All the Black Money made through Un-Fair Means, and giving all such Cases of Inappropriacy to International Court of Justice, it would help in Awarding The severe punishments to all Head of States, Ministers, High Officials, Smugglers and Traders who are found guilty in Corruption.6) Through the suggested UNAC, by eradicating Kick Backs and Black Money, it Will keep to remove Poverty, Unemployment and Terrorism immediately Throughout the World. Please Note: Donate Funds for International Peace Campaign for conveying message of Peace through Friendship Progress and Prosperity by International Revolution Movement, in a better way 1000-Time more. We need Funds urgent basis. Please Send your Donations to Bank Account: Allied Bank of Pakistan, Lahore Branch: Allama Iqbal Town, Lahore No.0688Account: Agha Dilbar Account No. 01100-5809-2Agha Dilbar founder International Revolution Movement Central Secretariat64-Neelum, Allama Iqbal Town, Lahore, Pakistan Thanks for using this service Please E-mail these Peace Letters to your friends for the Welfare of Humanity Thank you for your Participation. We appreciate your Contribution for Humanity (Live with Dignity and Dye with Grace. Guide Line from Agha Dilbar)__________________Please see our Message in internet search User Name: No-1 aghadilbar No-2 aghadilbar2 No-3 aghadilbar3

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aghadilbar:

No offense, but I didn't read your post.

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my dad's point is that line breaks and "enter" keys are for losers! Death to line breaks and enter keys! ee cummings akbar!

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No offense, but I didn't read your post.

I don't think that "aghadilbar" read it either.

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Tom Friedman--is that you?

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i believe aghadilbar is MacDonald's gaming buddy. Certainly accounts for all the erudition contained within his post and accounts for her high opinion of his views.

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i am afraid that we really must pass and implement a law which provide for hanging persons such as this and those others who we have found out about lately. i have never been an advocate of the death penaly but i really don't believe we have any other choice.

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Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!

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In rereading the IG's report (pdf page 19) the following passage struck me:

"The figures were a mistake and very embarrassing, but they didn't make a difference in the outcome of the review."

Sounds like Gonzo's we did it the wrong way but still got it right!

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I hope that the ad for "Cheap books.com" appearing at the bottom of this piece, wasn't an intentional touch. But Jung did write a lot of pages about synchronicity.

Geoff

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The California State Water Project is in danger of losing their federal permit, because the US Fish & Wildlife Service ignored data showing the Delta Smelt population was declining. A judge will be ruling on whether to overturn the permit, which is required to run the pumps which distribute water from the Delta to 25 million customers.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/search/ci_5764443

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