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Libby Jury to Judge: "Define Reasonable Doubt"

From the AP:

Jurors asked for the definition of "reasonable doubt" Friday after completing a shortened, eighth day of deliberations Friday in the perjury trial of ex-White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

"We would like clarification of the term 'reasonable doubt,'" jurors wrote. "Specifically, is it necessary for the government to present evidence that it is not humanly possible for someone not to recall an event in order to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

I think the short answer to that (much to the chagrin of Scooter Libby's lawyers) is "no."


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clearly, and to no surpise to me, the libby team has a ringer on that jury. there's no way they should've deliberated this long, and the questions reflect the ringer's grasping-at-straws to try to deadlock the whole show.

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Its a shame all it takes to thwart justice is one die-hard conservative that thinks BUsh is the second coming and none of his people should be convicted of anyhting, ever.

Or just one idiot that has no brain, like in the jury that I served on, who thought his definition of words was what we should decide by not what websters indicated. Some people just have no reson to be on a jury, they are not our peers.

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I apologize in advance for my lousy spelling. :)

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Yep -- sounds like the jury members are trying to convince a holdout or two that the definition of reasonable doubt is NOT as posed in the question. Either a hung jury or guilty.

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Let's hope the judge gives them a clear response.

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I agree I've been on two juries, both of which deliberated way too long, because of one or two holdouts. That question does indeed appear to be the work of a foreperson who is looking to bat down a holdout who think they can't convict Libby if it's remotely possible that he did not remember the nine conversations he had re Valerie Wilson before he talked to Russert. The good news is that in both cases the holdout eventually came around an most issues; maybe they'll acquit Libby on one or two counts to get at least one conviction.

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RaymondA might be right. Or the jury might be an extremely responsible one, that thinks that Libby is guilty, but wants to give his case every possible chance before branding him a felon. I sure wouldn't want to send anybody to prison until I had given their story every possible chance. (Although I might make an exception for Bushies.)

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I've been a criminal lawyer for 15 years, nine of them as a prosecutor. I loathe Bush/Cheney and everything they stand for.

I'm increasingly concerned that this jury is a buch of fools. The Valentine's Day t-shirts was an early warning sign. The ridiculously long deliberations are another. Request for a dictionary; alarming.

The jury selection was botched entirely. Mere dislike or distrust of Bush/Cheney should not have been grounds for removal. Any juror who pledged to listen to the evidence impartially and follow the instructions should have been allowed to sit.

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JB2,

agree completely. what chances are there of a hung jury (and when), and then what do you speculate would happen

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JB2 makes a very good point. These people might actually be from that rare 5 or 10% of the population that you often see missing from poll results because they are so out of touch with the world that they just don't have opinions on (or worse, don't know anything about) the most important/divisive issues out there - like: "do you approve of the current administration."

How is this a "jury of your peers?" Seems more like a jury of ignorant fools to me.

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