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Rove: We Left Prosecutors Working on "Important Investigations"
Karl Rove broached the topic of U.S. Attorneys again today. And, as before, it was a battery of flat-out lies, half truths and distortions. Long after Alberto Gonzales backed off his line that the firings are an "overblown personnel matter," Rove's still flogging the same line that people are just "playing politics" with this.
But I want to focus in on one statement in particular. Depending on how you read it, it's either flagrantly tone deaf or a middle finger to those chasing this story:
When we came in in 2001, we reviewed all 93 U.S. Attorneys and over the course of time, replaced virtually all of them with appointees by the president… not all: several appointees were involved in high profile cases, important investigations, and as a result, even though they were appointees of the previous administration, we left them in office for, in some instances, years.
San Diego's Carol Lam was, of course, in the middle of one of the highest profile, important investigations that a United States attorney has undertaken in recent memory when she was fired last December. The suspicion around her firing is what has driven the scandal from the beginning.
But just to show that Lam isn't far from Rove's mind, he goes on to repeat his lie that Lam was ordered to make immigration cases a priority in her office and refused.
....."But just to show that Lam isn't far from Rove's mind, he goes on to repeat his lie that Lam was ordered to make immigration cases a priority in her office and refused."
If Mr. Rove wasn't involved with her firing, why does he know so much about her?
When it comes to Carol Lam, what does Karl Rove know and when did he know it. I think that should be question number one when he has to appear before the House and Senate.
March 15, 2007 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
When do we get to hang these guys good and high?
It's the least they deserve.
March 15, 2007 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
But were the US Attorneys they "left" in office investigating Democrats...?
Using the "Clinton did something worse" defense is what they trot out when they can't defend themselves any other way. If Clinton did anything wrong (real or perceived) while in office (or before) the Republican-led Congress or Starr had a hearing or several about it or at the very least relealed it to the press. Since I can't find any evidence they held a hearing, they didn't believe it was wrong.
The current mess, if not illegal (which I imagine it is), is clearly unethical. We don't want to get in the habit of removing ethics from the judicial branch - do we?
March 15, 2007 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
The simple question would be why was an obscure provision, secretly insterted into a law designed to fight terrorism, used to replace the USA's bypassing Legislative review?
How is this fighting terrorism?
Perhaps Arlen Specter can answer that question as well, since his office, and by default he as well, is responsible for the provision's placement in the first place.
March 15, 2007 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ian:
The fault in your argument lies in your characterization of the PATRIOT act as a "law designed to fight terrorism," which it isn't. That was just the copy on the advertisement used to sell the act.
PATRIOT is designed to expand police powers specifically and executive branch powers generally, and to reduce the power of the judicial and legislative branches to provide oversight. The clause allowing confirmationless appointment of USAs fits so neatly into that description of PATRIOT that it's really no wonder at all that it went unnoticed.
March 15, 2007 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is SOP Rove--turning his weakness into his strength. Just because you experience it as being given the finger doesn't mean the masses won't believe it.
March 15, 2007 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
In a similar way the National Security Letters provided for under the patriot act and authorizing intrusion into the private domain of citizens without the imprimatur of judicial warrant have been abused.
This was another way to remove judicial supervision from the actions of the USAs. The operative theory was that polical loyalty could be ultimately enforced at the expense of professional ethics and the judically enforced doctrine of prosecutorial misconduct. And now we see in the firings, the threats of slander and the actual slander, and the heavy handed political contacts in Washington State and New Mexico for instance that the administration was willing to exert pressure on prosecutors to abandon professional standards.
The definitional challenge is in translating this activity into language that characterizes is depravity: suborning prosecutorial misconduct comes to mind. There may be more authority for recognizing a common law criminal charge in abuse of power. Excutive branches are often called upon to exercise quasi-judicial functions that are reversible upon a showing of abuse of discretion. The challenge is in understanding an interstitial authority in the role of government lawyers who act both as officers of the judicial branch and the executive branch and pre-scribed by the canons of behaviour appertaining to each.
It is in this bramble bush that the remedy of impeachment perhaps emerges as being the most compelling. Perhaps the Congress will see the compelling necessity of proceeding in this way if the rule of law is to be preserved as a matter of Constitutonal principle.
March 15, 2007 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
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March 15, 2007 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
IIRC, Mary Jo White, USA - Eastern District of NY was investigating Clinton's pardons when Bush took office.
When White resigned, Roslyn Mauskopf, a lazy Pataki hack, got her job. Mauskopf is good buddies with Al D'Amato, Zenia Mucha and Charlie Gargano.
March 15, 2007 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am sending this basic comment to many blogs that discuss it. Arianna had a write-up on this in January, otherwise, it has been ignored.
Keywords: Bribery, conspiracy, perjury.
Status: Evidence of crimes exists, criminal investigations have been started, blocked, completed, ended and some are continuing, people have already gone to jail (Abramoff, e.g.), and it is strongly related, therefore, it must not be separated from the 'firing' story, and the medias 'policy' is wrong.
Frederick Black was the interim U.S. attorney for the territories, but Jack Abramoff put the fix in, and wanted to take the credit for getting rid of the chief federal prosecutor for U.S. territories in the Pacific Ocean". This was from a story "Abramoff sought credit for work he didn’t do", MSNBC, Joel Seidman, June 30, 2006.
The story also said "Black told FBI agents investigating the wide-ranging influence-peddling scandal spawned by Abramoff that he was replaced because he stirred political controversy by starting his own, earlier probe of Abramoff."
This older chapter of the story has a lot more than just congressmen going to jail, tying together all of the fun parts of recent scandals, and even providing some material for the national media to be shocked, shocked, I say, at appalling conditions (with little U.S. Flags sewn onto them).
March 15, 2007 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't these asswipes talk to one another? Five minutes and a coherent storyline matching the facts coulda being in place.
Additionally, anybody in Senator Session's State . . . Give him a call and point out that the talking points have been updated. No one else is flogging the bad performance line anymore.
March 15, 2007 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this guy an idiot? Doesn't he realize that by continually speaking in public about this he is opening himself up further to questioning by Congress? How can he claim Executive Privilege in order to block the forthcoming subpoena if he continues to blather on about it in public speeches?
March 16, 2007 4:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, the U.S. Code at 28 U.S.C. 541 (c) provides that "each" U.S. attorney is "subject to removal by the President" The obvious exception, which goes to the heart of this controversy, is that removal for political reasons may amount to obstruction of justice or, at best, an unethical intrusion of partisan motivations into criminal prosecutions.
Each USA may indeed serve at the president's "pleasure," but it's arguably bad for the country if talented USA's of either party are automatically forced out of their jobs with each change of administration.
March 25, 2007 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree compeletely that what is not said is often more important than what is said.
I also suspect that much of the missing accounts actually exist. There has been a report, for instance, that says that Karl Rove does 95% of his e-mail exchanges from his account on GWB43 that is operated by the RNC. The sole reason to have dual e-mail systems is to hide it from public scrutiny and accountability. It is time, in other words, to go after the RNC run e-mail system.
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