While they're requesting documents, I hope they do an extensive search of email domains.

http://www.whois.ws/whois-net/ip-address/gwb43.net/

Domain Availability*

gwb43.com Taken -registered to RNC

gwb43.net Taken -registered to RNC

gwb43.org Taken -registered to RNC

gwb43.us Taken -redirects to whitehouse.gov (the official WH website)

The senators have their work cut out for them.

posted also on another comment thread (the earlier iteration on this issue):

Everyone's all ranting and raving about this latest outrage, but no one seems to have noticed that they just waived executive privilege by sentences two, three and four of the quoted statement:

"The Attomey General was not told that he was a subject or target of the OPR investigation, nor did he believe himself to be. The Attorney General did not ask the President to shut down or otherwise impede the OPR investigation. The Attorney General recommended to the President that OPR be granted security clearances to the Terrorist Sur\~eillance Program. The President made the decision not to grant the requested security clearances. "

Sentence one is a bald-faced attempt by Gonzo to (try to) avoid obstruction of justice charges against Gonzo - "I didn't know the investigation was coming my way, so I couldn't be the guy obstructing it". Not likely to succeed - this was just too controversial and too close to Gonzo (it ran through his office, dammit) for him to get away with that crap.

Sentence two describes a communication between presidential advisor (or consigliere/attorney - take your pick) surely made in and with the expectation of confidence (what do we hear every time about the NSA program - that it's confidential)(and, what do we hear about the executive branch - that everything going on there is confidential) and about a matter of state. Now, a spokesmodel is coming out and, as an official pronouncement, saying what the communication was about, the general substance of it, and who said (and didn't say) what to whom. Textbook waiver of executive (or any other) privilege.

Sentence three is a combination of the two purposes - I told the President to give them the clearances and let the investigation go forward (i.e., I didn't impede it, regardless of who was the subject/target) and this is the "confidential" stuff we talked about (waiver of privilege).

Sentence four is Gonzo laying the blame squarely on the President. HE obstructed the investigation. And, it's a further revelation and waiver of the allegedly privileged information.

No. This is not the WH throwing Gonzo under the bus. This is Gonzo lashing himself to the President in the hope the so-called "Unitary Executive" theory will stand up in court. If it succeeds, it will be because The President Can Do No Wrong. If it fails, it will bring down Bush.

I think this letter is less about getting any documents -- although that would be a welcome bonus -- than about forcing Gonzales to resign. They want him out, and this letter basically says "we're going to make you (the Administration) miserable unless you fire him."

"Yesterday I reported that the Justice Department had written Congress that, against the advice of Alberto Gonzales, the president had shut down an internal department investigation into the administration's wireless wiretapping program. Bush's was an unprecedented and arbitrary (and still unexplained) move."

So Gonzales DIDN'T have Bush stop the investigation? If Bush stopped the investigation AGAINST the advice of Gonzales, then that means Gonzales wanted it to continue even though he knew it would lead back to him. If that's the case, why does TPM continue to write that Gonzales stopped the investigation?

I found this someplace:

The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.

So what stops 2/3rds of states from holding a convention & drafting an amendment explicitly removing the current regime from power, sending it back to the states for 3/4ths to ratify?

We have the power to stop this, if we dare.

This one promises a more direct obstruction of justice charge on Dear Leader.

Small typo. It's not "wireless wiretapping". :)

Its interesting to see how this is turning out.
There's already blood in the water on Gonzalez - his credibility is shot in the public eye - even among Republicans- and he is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. That makes him an easy target for exhaustive congressional investigation. Sure they could investigate any of the Bush Administration and kick up dirt, but if they started grilling Rice on live TV there are still people out there that would be sympathetic to her.

And he just happens to be in the intersection of so many different scandals - the US Attorneys, Torture, Illegal Spying, etc.

I would be willing to bet that, if they shine a light on him long enough, things are going to come out that will make what we know now pale in comparison.

Someone pass the popcorn, this is going to be entertaining.

Robin asked...

"Wonder what the FIRST LIE the bush admin told was?"

Easy...

"I do faithfully swear to uphold the Consitution of these Unnited States..."

....and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Robin asked for a timeline.

There's a really nice article shaping up at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

Lets see if we can get all of the signing statements & Executive orders

Dave of Maryland

If we can not get fair and honest election, or even get our votes counted now, what chance do we have of controlling a Constitutional Convention?

You think the Rich and the Corporations will let the people control one? Who do you think would be selected to represent us?

There is not a single honest GOP office holder local, state, or federal. There are honest Republicans but they have been attack and chased out of the Republican Party. The only ones left are these who throw their lot with the GOP criminals.

BTW, this Security Code always seem to look how I feel before I post. Crazy but fun.

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Things that might have happened or might happen?:

Bush had a secret meeting with Orrin Hatch, Arlen Specter, Jon Kyl, and Pete Domenici to discuss how the US Atty problem should be handled?

Specter agrees to slip in the little loophole into the Patriot Act that would permit Alberto to appoint US Attys without Senate approval?

Bush personally advised Alberto on what to do about the US Attys, especially Lam?

Rove and Alberto and Bush have discussed privately how they will handle this little "problem"?

The White House sent an "emissary" to talk with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald with threats about his future as a US Atty - especially if he did not cool his heels about hunting down Karl Rove?

Monica Goodling has been sent to a secret location, with a couple of DOJ officials, to be de-programmed and to let her practice her lines if she is subpoenaed by the Leahy Committee?

Karl Sampson was royally pissed that he was let go and is ready to sing like a bird. The WH is working with his lawyer to keep him from spilling the beans on everyone?

Rove has suggested that they blame the Democrats for being too "partisan" and on a witchhunt over this story, in hopes of a "divide and conquer" strategy?

Cheney, not Gonzales, is planning on stepping down because of "health", in hopes of diverting the attention away from this story?

Their goal is to get the "war on terror" back on the front page and they are looking for another way to scare the bejeebus out of the American people?

They believe they can manipulate the press into giving "both sides" of the story, no matter that sometimes there is only "one side" to the story?

Gonzales has informed Bush that he will stay one more week to see if the tide can be turned? If not, he is ready to resign next Friday?

When under assault, attack the strongest points of your enemies? The degree of guilt will be in proportion to the degree of protestation?

The White House will announce their own "investigation"?

Brings new meaning to the old adage, "Trust me. I'm from the government."

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Why hasn't the House or Senate ask for Dick Cheney's energy task force records?

How about the matter of the Halliburton's no-bid contracts and the overchanges, as well as all the contractors corruption in Iraq?

Would be nice to get more than one investigation going.

arlen spector:

i happened to catch oliver stone's JFK on cable the other night, and in a stirring courtroom scene, kevin costner reminded me that arlen spector was once on the warren commission, and responsible for the "magic bullet theory."

tin foil hat time:

spector seems like he's in a tug-of-war with himself, his party and his position in congress. it seems like no surprise that the administration slipped the USAttorney Patriot Act provision through Spector's office.

the "control file" that OVP has on spector is thicker than everyone's but mitch mcconnell.

Dave of Maryland asks: "So what stops 2/3rds of states from holding a convention & drafting an amendment explicitly removing the current regime from power...?"

Well, Dave, for two reasons: Even IF you could convince 2/3rds of the states to endorse this resolution (given all the Repub machinations in each statehouse), it would take until the year 2525 or so to be enacted. Remember, the Equal Rights Amendment circulated around the states for over 10 years before dying with its tounge stuck out.

I am very sorry to say, until Jan 2009, Bush is it. That's all. Whatever damage he wants to inflict on our country is his privilege. He can start a war with Iran, nail the Constitution to an outhouse door, jail US citizens w/o warrant. He's our national dingleberry, our Emperor Chimpoleon.

Read Zbigniew Brzezinski's WaPo letter on the systemic damage that BushCo's brainwashing is doing to our country... This is our future. Don't look for any remedy, not even impeachment, until Americans can stop living in fear.

KY3 Democrat: "Just waiting for the ballon to go up"

kentuck has some interestng speculations.
I myself have wondered if the WH "got to" Fitzgerald and told him to lay of Der Rover Bendsover in the l'affaire Plame if he knew what was good for him.
But if Gonzo bails, who will give legal cover to Bush?
'tis a puzzlement.

Considering what happened to Clenis, and what's already been revealed about the misdeeds and crimes of Bu$hCo, it's really quite amazing that IMPEACHMENT is not already on the table.

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Robin, I'm sure this list is not comprehensive, but still a pretty good list:

http://www.ericschwartz.com/stuff/ClintonBJ.mp3

..."against the advice of Alberto Gonzales, the president had shut down an internal department investigation into the administration's wireless wiretapping program."

'Against' Gonzales' advice.

The Senators are presenting Gonzo an opportunity to defend himself against the President's push out the door, or a chance to rat the President out. And the President gets to watch and see how loyal Gonzo really is when he's feeling surrounded. It is an interesting squeeze-play.

I am told senior managers at Lowe's Companies used to be faced with periodic employee cut-backs. They would eliminate the obvious candidates and narrow the list to two. Then, they would invite the two in separately with the offer: you will be given a nominal promotion (which really meant a change in title allowing you to handle the work of two for the pay of one), and can keep your job if your fire your colleague. It is a similar squeeze for Gonzo. Rat out the Pres? Rat out Sampson or some underling? Keep your job, inherit more heat, keep the boss free and clear. Does Gonzo have the stones?

@Kentuck

The only thing missing from this unfolding nightmare of justice under the law being subverted is bodies...dead bodies.

When will the permanent silencing of witnesses begin?

To date, all canaries have been bought with lucrative positions in the private sector or powerful positions within key agencies.

Is it a matter of which is the operative's primary vice...greed or power as to which choice works?

Yang & Cummins & Battle were paid well with lucrative private sector positions.. McCallum who did the tobacco case dirty work is now US Ambassador to Australia, the former UTAH USA has a nice judgeship now, and Griffin is USA in Ark.

Sampson got the shaft, he has been ousted as the fall guy ..identified through emails as the architect and conductor of the purge..he pushed for using the PAT ACT thinking he would get a USA position and now he is out in the cold.

Can they buy him off before he testifies or will he be the first one silenced? Stay tuned.

@ dayounggodfawdder

You know, my first thought is that Gonzo was the conseiglere as well...but then I began to wonder. Why would they refer to him as Fredo, the sycophant who betrayed his own brother?

I suspect there is more to GonZales than we are privy to.

Who was the brother he betrayed?

Who was the brother he betrayed?

Posted by: elrapierwit

Recall that Michael had his brother Fredo whacked for betraying him? Had him shot in da head when he wuz fishin' in day lake.
'an it was not fer nuthin'.

What the F**k is wrong with you people. You guys are f***ken sick , I mean real sick ,stupid or just plain had a cattle prod rammed up your asses and were told keep your eyes on the swinging Swastika. Your are getting sleepy , dumber , delusion BAM! YOU NOW HAVE FULL BLOWN BUSH DERANGEMENT SYDROME.

What is it like to be dumb and miserable 24/7? After nearly 20 years of blindly and ignorantly voting straight Democrat-ic I look forward to the day very soon when I re-register to vote "REPUBLICAN" to vote in the Primary. Who the hell are you people , you sound as if you need to be put out of your misery, mercy killing s come to mind. I mean shit I is unbelievable how utterly pathetic, dellusion and miserable you all are.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG , MENTALLY DAMAGED FOR LIFE DUE TO MENTAL MOLESTATION OF YOUR WEEK MINDS.

"what's already been revealed about the misdeeds and crimes of Bu$hCo"

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You cannot even name a single one can you?

Another fricken retard ,

"Also, does anybody doubt that Bush abused "warrantless wiretapping" in order to spy upon politicos in order to black-mail them???

CONGRESS SHOULD IMPEACH THE INSANE NEO-CON BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, ROVE & GONZALES!"

"Does anyone have any doubt?


I know for a fact he did not. You bed wetters just make shit up as you go or what? The question that should be asked is does anyone have any brains around that can think for themselves? Not even close , no doubt in my mind.

"There is not a single honest GOP office holder local, state, or federal."

Ha ha ha lol oh my! DREAM ON , YOU ARE WRONG, 100% WRONG. YOU ARE ALL BRAIN DEAD AND SLAVES TO THE "CRIMINAL DEMOCRAT PARTY OF PERPTETUAL FRAUD".

Hilary Rotten and Fraud Kerry both whined and cried for a week that felons vote democrat. BJ Clinton is a liar , perjurer , sexual deviant and a no good draft dodging criminal fuck. You have failed for 6 years to Clintonize President Bush and your going to continue to fail because you are "NOT AMERICANS" YOU ARE STUPID ASS DEMOCRATS. No wonder this Country is going down the shitter , bunch of bong token take it in the ass lying cowards.

Go here for the full story.

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/board_forum/index.php?showtopic=4519

I got chipped with an NSA RFID chip, based on a bogus FBI FISA application implicating Sioux Falls FBI SSA Steven Pluta (a counterintel expert sent to Iraq in August to prevent me from subpoenaing him in a Motion Hearing in Fed Court).

This story includes:

--FBI lying to FISA court claiming I was an "agent of a foreign power" (a requirement of the FISA order to conduct a "subliminal counter intel debriefing using the chip in my head).

--Sioux Falls FBI tampered with my course of medical care when they flipped DR. CHAD CARDA and DR. JENNIFER BURGER into hiding my x ray results that showed the chip. See, SD Med Bd complaint naming Carda and Burger.

--Use of Directed Energy Weapons to murder Rich Gordon, fry Dr. Mark Gordon and me in our homes.

--FBI abuse of power when they destroyed Dr. Mark Gordon's medical carreer in Yankton, SD, Sioux Falls, SD, and Austin, TX. This was done to flip Gordon against me. Later, Gordon was monitored with a pin hole spy camera in his home. See, Thomas S. Bean's 47 page US DOJ OIG complaint naming the Gordon's.

--Today, Mueller is to be grilled by the US Senate Jud Comm.....so far...the dems have offered up nothing but softball questions to big, bad, Bob Mueller. I got Mueller called back to US SJC on Cspan 2....and watched Bob read and check off questions from the script he was reading from?

--Mueller's got problems with the Canadian warrant for Miami FBI agent Terry Nelson's "Big Sky Cali Cocaine Distribution" in Montana....where FBI Div 5 hitman Chuckie Peters whacked out alot of witnesses. The bank records show drug money laundering into Bush/Racicot/GOP campaigns.

I gave this to the dems along time ago when I contacted Grassley three weeks before FBI rolled over on the NSA TSP (remember the NY TIMES requires three sources to corroborate big stories...Risen had Ken Tice...my memo to Grassley and FBI who always tips Risen and NY Times like when they painted Rich Gordon bad with the bogus SD AG Indian Voter Fraud Investigation).

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