I believe that the DNC handed over e-mails and documents directly to Dan Burton's Congressional committee back in the 90's when he was engaged in his various Clinton investigations.

They did not pass through the Clinton White House for review.

How is this any different?

The police investigate a mob syndicate--they want all the e-mails that the mob sent/received. So now the police have to let the mob "filter" what e-mails they get? This sucks--suspects should not be allowed to do this. Where's the justice? Oh, yeah, all used up in the Clinton impeachment.

I love security codes: face--you no good, two-faced, lying, son of . . .

grow some balls DEMS....for christs sake grow some balls and call them on it - now.

security code: still

as in "still waiting for impeachment"

As an outside observer, it is currently impossible for me to determine to any degree of certainty whether Conyers is executing a carefully considerd plan here or whether the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee are simply being led around by their nose rings.

I know time will tell but time is not an infinite resource.

Anyone giving up data tries to keep the original. If they can't, they keep copies; if for no other reason, to prove what they delivered up and when. The Senate should subpoena the RNC-held data.

If the RNC didn't lie, and they treated WH e-mails as ordinary traffic, the e-mails have lost any privilege that might have applied to them. The RNC would have no legal basis to refuse to deliver them up to a valid demand from Congress.

But let's get the facts. Call the RNC IT administrators, get a copy of any contract for IT services, get testimony and supporting docs about routine administration and compare it with administration of the WH stuff.

Odds are, the RNC has pretty high security and tight protocols; they wouldn't their machinations coming out. But that's not likely to shield WH stuff, some of which is likely to have intentionally been dealt with differently than other e-mail.

Follow the evidence of intentional conduct, as well as the money. All good to know when the e-mails, or versions of them, do show up.

A "reasonable request" just like the take it or leave it offer for an off the record chat with Rove was "reasonable and extraordinary". Time to find another adjective GOP.

since they haven't issued the subpoena yet, I guess they have no legal basis to challenge this. once the subpoena is issued, it should bypass the WH.

the reason they are able to do this is the congress' unwillingness to fight.

I'm wondering about the lost service to Blackberries, too. What do you think? They destroyed something that caused an outage? IANA techie so I'm not sure of the significance. But, I think it raises questions.

Isn't it time for somebody, preferably a Special Prosecutor, to begin an investigation to see if the Hatch Act has been violated? Perhaps it would be more correct to say "investigation of how many times the Hatch Act has been violated?"

Long Memory, if I understand correctly the issue with using the RNC emails for White House business is violations of the Presidential Records Act and the White House email policy. Excessive caution in complying with the Hatch Act is their excuse for violating the Records Act (and their stated policies).

Also, if they used the RNC account to comply with the Hatch Act that would seem to rule out executive privilege arguments (which are already strained for communications between aides -- as opposed to directly with the President -- even on White Houe email).

On a related note, the linked WaPo article cites a "leading House Democrat" as being "told that as many as four years' worth of Rove's RNC e-mails may be missing. The e-mails are also sought in a congressional investigation of the alleged politicization of the General Services Administration."

This ridiculousness just has to stop. Would everyone out there who work at occupations where you have a legal responsibility for document preservation please raise your hand if wishy-washy excuses for your failure to do so would e accepted by your superiors and the legal entities charged with oversight of your particular area? Wait a minute....I don't see any hands.....

Let me also be the first to say that I believe the fix was in with old Patrick Fitzgerald. If the average prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich, I can't see how Mr. Fitzgerald could not indict and convict Mr. Rove of obstruction of justice based on the disappearance of four years worth of e-mails.

Its time to stop patting Mr. Fitzgerald on the back and start asking some questions about just how Rove got off the hook given soemthing as egregious the e-mail mishandling, not too mention all the other evidence.

Good thing they were able to get Blackberry to shut down for the day so they could delete While House emails.

White House + RNC = Co-conspiracy of historic proportions!

Also, this just in...

Va. Gunman Had 2 Past Stalking Cases

By ADAM GELLER
The Associated Press
Wednesday, April 18, 2007; 1:27 PM

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The gunman blamed for the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history had previously been accused of stalking two female students at Virginia Tech and had been taken to a mental health facility in 2005 after an acquaintance worried he might be suicidal, police said Wednesday. Cho Seung-Hui had concerned one woman enough with his calls and e-mail in 2005 that police were called in, said Police Chief Wendell Flinchum.

So how did this proven stalker manage to buy a gun? "Cho Seung-Hui had concerned one woman enough with his calls and e-mail in 2005 that police were called in,"

if criticizing Bush for lying in his SOTU propaganda event, can get you put on a no-fly list, shouldn't something like this put up some red flags for someone trying to buy a weapon???

HYPOCRITES...

I sure hope the NSC-CIA SCS group has back-ups. John LeCarre didn't believe in "coincidences" either.
The committees better get those subpoenas out now and have the servers confiscated NOW. Something is amiss in Hooterville. As a certain well-known sleuth said: "The game is afoot!"

Code word: color, as in a "shady" color

'As a certain well-known sleuth said: "The game is afoot!"'

It doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to smell a rat in this situation.

The James Bond writers would be hard-pressed to come up with a fiction scenario with as much intrigue and twisted plot developments as we have seen simnce the Dems whooped up on the R's in November. Since then, it's been a constant state of denial, deletion, shredding and cover-up that probably has few precedents in all of history.

To call this administration "historic" barely scratches the surface. Historically tragic might be the better term.

i love it. there is no one left to investigate. they're burning the records. go great justice.

It's time to charge Karl Rove and others for violations of the Hatch Act. By the Bush Admin and the RNC saying that these e-mails are covered by executive privilege, that means that they are e-mails regarding government business. Ok Conyers, what are you waiting for?

I think "all this politeness" is feeding them rope.
Giving them more chances to lie. Making the story more and more and more complicated until they're going to trip themselves up; they'll have no choice.
It's the same "negligent or corrupt" double-pronged fork the whole Administration will soon be roasting on.

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