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Senators to Gonzales: Try, Try Again
Today, Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy (D-VT) and ranking member Arlen Specter (R-PA) wrote to Alberto Gonzales asking him to "promptly supplement your testimony of April 19 with answers to those questions for which you responded that you could not recall or did not know." You can read the full letter here.
By the senators' "conservative" count, Gonzales failed to provide answers "well over 60 times." I'm not sure how many questions Gonzales was asked, but it can't be much more than that.
Noting that despite weeks of preparation, Gonzales did not appear ready to answer a number of key questions at the hearing, the senators wrote:
"We believe the Committee and our investigation would benefit from you searching and refreshing your recollection and your supplementing your testimony by next Friday to provide the answers to the questions you could not recall last Thursday."
It's not often that I'm embarrassed for a figure in this administration, but this is one of those times.

How about put some teeth into that letter?
I think if they'd concluded it with something like this, it may have helped:
If you are unable to furnish the committee with answers to these questions, we will remand you to the custody of a compliant, third-party state which will seek to refresh your memory through the use of the so-called "extraordinary interrogation techniques" you so conveniently claim are legal.
April 25, 2007 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone considered the very real probability that Bush will simply hold his middle finger high and proud at Congress and let Gonzales stay as AG until he leaves office. And in that case, what is the Senate's recourse? They can't fire the AG, so Bush can only win by flipping the bird at Congress avoiding a nasty confirmation hearing and making Congress look impotent at the same time.
April 25, 2007 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good for Leahy and Specter. Their tenacity is admirable.
April 25, 2007 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can Congress impeach him, and if so, why haven't they already started the process?
April 25, 2007 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not only legal, but the restrictions against them are "quaint."
April 25, 2007 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wed 25 Apr 2007
10.15 PDT
I, on the contrary, can find little if any sympathy or feel any embarrassment for Mr. Gonzales. Recalling the stack of perfunctory capital punishment reviews he authored for GWB's benefit in Texas and his dismissal of the Geneva Conventions as 'quaint' anachronisms is more than sufficient to quell any emerging hint of feeling for him. Profound embarrassment for my country, for what has been thought to be the civilized world, but nothing for Mr. Gonzales.
==Mel Strom
April 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't imagine why Gonzales is hurting himself and delaying the inevitable.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/alberto-gonzales-appears-on.html#links
April 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
gcs -- Gonzales resigning would be lipstick on a pig because the situation requires that his replacement be just as corrupt.
April 25, 2007 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
The House can impeach Gonzales. I ask Congress to just stop with the pretense that Torture Boy is a serious, respectable public official and just get on with the obvious.
April 25, 2007 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gcs, DWM: They can impeach AGAG. Conviction requires 67 votes in the Senate, though.
April 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't Spector the one who threw in at the last minute to amendment to the Patriot Bill permitted the President to make interim appointments. If not for that, there probably would not have been any resignations. Has anyone asked Spector why and at who's request he put the amendment in?
April 25, 2007 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no sympathy for him. He's "throwing sand in our eyes," as Patrick Fitzgerald so aptly stated about obstructionists. No sympathy.
April 25, 2007 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Abu G can be impeached. He might not get convicted by the Senate -- that requires 67 votes -- but then again, he might. All but two of the Republicans on the Judiciary Committee were pretty disgusted with him last week.
Besides, once there is a live impeachment proceeding, Bush's claims of "executive privilege" over every single communication to or from the White House (including those on the RNC servers) would ring even more hollow than they already do.
April 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did feel some symapthy for Gonzales after that incredibly inept performance....until I learned just what a hard on he had for death penalty cases and thought about all his lies and how his only loyalty is to Bush and he doesn't give a damn about the American people. This is not a good person and he belongs behind bars like most of the gang in this White House. He will probably never receive the punishment he deserves.
April 25, 2007 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The letter strongly suggests that the Judiciary Committee was so offended by Gonzales' 'forgetful' testimony that it is considering citing him for perjury. That would be problematic -- he can continue to claim stupidity -- UNLESS someone on the murder board practice panels is ready to feed info to the committee.
How would it look if before Gonzales' three weeks of practice his memory was fine, but afterwards it was empty?
April 25, 2007 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm NOT KIDDING when I ask: How blithering does a testifying witness have to be before one of the senators asks, "Sir, are you on drugs?" and then backs it up with an immediate urine test?
After all, thanks to people like Gonzales, half of us citizens with "normal" jobs face that as part of OUR employment.
April 25, 2007 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gonzales, and all the other Rethugs who have been unmasked so far, remind me of playground bullies -- "Huh?? I'm not doin' nothin'! Well, I ain't doin' nothin' *wrong*! I dunno what I was doin' -- I can't remember nothin'! What do ya mean, I'm gettin' expelled? What for?"
Outraged innocence or unresponsive evasion.
Code = meat
April 25, 2007 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps these kind men could suggest that they would be willing to provide a simple shot of sodium pentethol to "help" him refresh his failing memory.
I bet he would find so many, many lost memories in the huge, blank cavities of his addled brain.
Or, perhaps a lie-detector test would help Gonzo "identify" which answers of "I can't recall" are true, and those which his sub-conscious mind know to be false, i.e. lies.
PEACE
code word: porter, as in carrying the baggage
April 25, 2007 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sens. Leahy and Spector:
Thank you for your letter of April 24 or 25. I have read it and re-read it several times, and I am writing to respond to your requests.
I have tried real hard to remember all the things I couldn't remember. I know Senator Sessions had a hard time believing I couldn't remember a meeting on November 27, and I held my tongue because maybe I was just forgetful as a result of the lights or all that green felt or the fact my suit pants were a little tight. Testifying is hard work.
But even now, in the comfort of my office, I can't remember. For example, I had hoped that by being back here, alone in my office with the shades drawn and a cold washcloth pressed on my forehead and a small, neat glass of Scotch in my hand, I'd remember more. But, gosh, guys: I really can't.
I know it seems incredible, but I have hundreds of meetings every week on critical, key issues such as Meth Awareness Week, and the D.A.R.E. Annual Jamboree ribbon-cutting ceremony...
The point is, how is a guy with all these things going on supposed to remember even the first detail about a multi-staff meeting held the day after Thanksgiving five months ago where the termination of several United States Attorneys was discussed at a meeting I attended? Those kinds of things get mixed up with all the occasional photo-ops with McGruff the Crime Dog and all the weighty other things I do.
I really wish I could help. I'll keep scratching my head and looking up at the ceiling and pondering, and if I come up with anything, I'll be sure to let you know.
Respectfully,
Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General
P.S. I hope your murder trial goes okay, Senator Spector. or am I confusing you with someone else? I can't recall.
April 25, 2007 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say, "Waterboard the S.O.B. and he'll remember."
Well, isn't that how he thought torturers could "improve the memory" of prisoners?
April 25, 2007 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush's middle finger works for the Dems, too. The longer the investigation is drawn out, the bigger it all looks. The general public is beginning to recognize and understand the issue. The longer that this drags on the more likely the public is to conclude that there is indeed a problem at the DOJ. And that makes support for the Dems likely to increase as the elections approach.
April 25, 2007 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
For Executive authority to make interim appointments, see U.S. Const. Art. II, Sec. 2.
April 25, 2007 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Put him in jail until his memory improves.
April 25, 2007 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm NOT KIDDING when I ask: How blithering does a testifying witness have to be before one of the senators asks, "Sir, are you on drugs?" and then backs it up with an immediate urine test?
After all, thanks to people like Gonzales, half of us citizens with "normal" jobs face that as part of OUR employment.
Posted by: just john
Now THAT would be awesome to see!
April 25, 2007 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
what I think is more of an embarresment is that the media gives it a pass and moves on.
"ahh, the guy only said he didn't know 60 times, it's hard werk being AG"
give me a freaking break.
April 25, 2007 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another letter requesting information and answers to questions? I'm guessing the Administration will put it on top of the stack that Congress is waiting to hear back on.
April 25, 2007 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, as I see it.. W will instruct the Attorney General to suspend the constitution an initaite marshal law on 11/5/2008 when the election returns come in. He will do this to keep his Unitary Presidency (Kingship) after the defeat of his chosen sucessor.
April 25, 2007 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a lawyer, I'll tell you what this looks like: papering the file. And you waste your time papering the file for one reason, and one reason only.
April 25, 2007 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where can I go to bet the mortgage, the car, and the wife that Gonzo promptly files this letter in the trash and ignores them completely?
April 25, 2007 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I admire the senators and am glad they're standing up to the administration.
unfortunately, I predict that AG AG et al will now conveniently say, "sorry, no can do. the office of special counsel is now delving into these matters and as the focus of an investigation, we won't be releasing any additional information to congress."
or words to that effect.
terrific code word: snake as in the grass! woowoo!
April 25, 2007 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Abu G should be held in contempt of Congress.
April 25, 2007 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Held in Contempt of Congress and Impeached.
April 25, 2007 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Supplement those responses, sure:
1) I REALLY don't recall
2) I REALLY REALLY don't recall
3) I HONESTLY didn't know
4) I can't recall if I've ever recalled recalling
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April 25, 2007 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a take-home make-up exam. Given to a flunkie.
April 25, 2007 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like bush's defense of AG AG: he answered all the questions he could - honestly!
EXcellent!
April 25, 2007 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
"As a lawyer, I'll tell you what this looks like: papering the file. And you waste your time papering the file for one reason, and one reason only."
OK, I'll bite. What's the damn reason?
April 25, 2007 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Wasn't Spector the one who threw in at the last minute to amendment to the Patriot Bill permitted the President to make interim appointments. If not for that, there probably would not have been any resignations. Has anyone asked Spector why and at who's request he put the amendment in?"
Yes, he is the author of the "Spectre Amendment," and no, no one has asked him on the record at whose request the inserted. But Senator Spectre knows that his fellow Senators know the score, that he prostituted the Senate's oversight responsibility for approving USAs for kiss on the cheek from Karl. His fellow Senators have his scrotum tightly in the Jaws of Life (Death?), a gentle turn of which might help deliver the necessary votes for impeachment for (take your pick).
April 25, 2007 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The purpose of the letter is not to get Gonzo to have a change of heart and fess up. Its purpose is to give him notice that the Committee's investigation "has been hampered" by his evasive testimony; it will make it easier to prove the scienter needed for a conviction of 18 U.S.C. 503, the omnibus provision of the federal obstruction of justice statute.
April 25, 2007 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
which implies that if he had to answer the other questions, he'd have lied?
April 25, 2007 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear gcs, why can't the Senate fire Gonzales? All they have to do is revoke their confirmation. Nothing is written in stone, as is obvious with this administration.
April 25, 2007 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Cassandrian mentions below has been a concern of mine since before the last election. These folks have not been in the least bit concerned with anything save the accumulation and use of power. I find it difficult to believe they will relinquish the Executive Branch without some sort of attempt at gaining permanent control. 33% still support him, and apparently will no matter what. Brace yourselves, get your passports in order, it's going to be a rough ride.
Code word = roll, as in "let's..."
"Unfortunately, as I see it.. W will instruct the Attorney General to suspend the constitution an initaite marshal law on 11/5/2008 when the election returns come in. He will do this to keep his Unitary Presidency (Kingship) after the defeat of his chosen sucessor.
Posted by: Cassandrian
Date: April 25, 2007 02:02 PM"
April 25, 2007 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone know what Leahy et al can do if Gonzo simply writes back declining the kind invitation to recite variations on the "Huh? Duh" theme? Suppose the WH simply refuses to respond to anything further the Senate or House demand, via subpoena or otherwise, concerning the USA firings, period. Is this contempt of Congress? I mean official contempt rather than the actual contempt for Congress and the American public the WH has repeatedly expressed? Who files for and issues the arrest warrant?
April 25, 2007 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Karla Faye Tucker was one of the 150 prisoners executed by Bush and Gonzales, after a review so perfunctory it does not merit being called a review.
At the time of her execution -- and for years prior to it -- Ms. Tucker represented the epitome of the redemptive power of Christianity. That she was not accorded the forgiveness that is the most attractive hallmark of Christianity, is both a tragedy and a mockery of her achievement and the religion that Bush purports to practice.
We, as Americans, shall dwell in shame for the rest of our lives that we allowed the despicable likes of Bush, Cheney and Gonzales to ascend to positions of supreme power in our government.
April 25, 2007 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Digby has a good post up of this...Gozales is deflecting the investigation from moving on to Rove for as long as he is still AG....That's why he is not being asked to resign. He is very useful to them even though he will eventually be thrown under just like Rumsfeld eventually was...only when it is with the most expedient timing politically.
April 25, 2007 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question must be, "When did you remember that you couldn't remember?"
Code word "idea", as in "I have no idea, Senators".
April 25, 2007 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alberto Gonzalez, the Artie Fufkin of the Bush regime, must submit mea culpas in writing. The Justice Department is doomed.
April 25, 2007 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn "Political Correctness".
He's "going to the mattress" for the Mayberry Mafia.
April 25, 2007 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
My money is on Abu staying, no question. Have people learned nothing? These operatives all vehemently beleive that they create their own reality and that the logical world of cause and effect does not apply to them. How many more examples of this do people need? They do not play from the same playbook, it was burned along time ago.
The reality they create is systematically defended and excused by the mass media on every substanitive level. The Dow going over 13,000 is far more relevant in this all important context than any legal argument for dismissal. They have very successfully bribed the big 5 to marry their notions of power. Billions have been given away to them and broad,unprecedented promises of deregulation have been made and secured. Smirking Chimp has all this down in print starting with Rove's call to Jack Welch in 99'. It is perhaps the story of the year.
My money remains on the World's Most Skilled FatMan, K. Rove. No one touchs him and no one resigns as long as the Media message is controled more or less. Marshall McClullan said a rather long time ago that the Media is the message. The Internet in all its brilliance and potential still does not reach the vast audience formerly known as the American electorate and now best regarded as the Domesticated Farm Population of Amerikanna.
No one could ever really stop skilled fatman Charles Barkley once he was down in the paint. Well K. Rove has taken over from there and betting in Vegas is heavily in his favor.
April 25, 2007 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Digby and Greg Palast are singling out Rove, and the WH is circling the wagons. Gonzales is not the issue since neither he nor l'il Sampson know who made the decisions to fire and there is no paper trail--outside of some RNC e-mails--to track the process. Monica Goodling is a good little girl who probably will not give up the dark lord, but who knows? The plot just thickens, and this is only one of the litany of abuses that Raul Emanuel cites in his speech at Brookings
April 25, 2007 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Digby and Greg Palast are singling out Rove, and the WH is circling the wagons. Gonzales is not the issue since neither he nor l'il Sampson know who made the decisions to fire and there is no paper trail--outside of some RNC e-mails--to track the process. Monica Goodling is a good little girl who probably will not give up the dark lord, but who knows? The plot just thickens, and this is only one of the litany of abuses that Raul Emanuel cites in his speech at Brookings
April 25, 2007 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is an article by Norm Ornstein about the attorney scandal. It is an interesting that a conservative from the AEI even has problems with what the White House is doing.
http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.26025/pub_detail.asp
April 25, 2007 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
THANKS FOR THE CHANCE TO SUBMIT COMMENTS,AS I ALSO DO THIS ON THE HUFF-PO,WHICH IS HOW THIS ARTICLE WAS FOUND.
THE VERY FIRST COMMENT SAYS IT-ALL.IF GONZALES REFUSES TO 'REMEMBER' THIS SECOND TIME ROUND, THEN SIMPLY SEND GONZO TO HIS CURRENT ILLEGAL-WAR CRIME,RENDER PRISION OF CHOICE,THAT BE OUR LAWMAKERS-CHOICE!
AND THEN USE THE 'SAME' SUPEANA THREAT WITH RICE-ROVE-AND ANY OTHER BUSH CRONIE WHO COMMITED WAR CRIMES!!
April 25, 2007 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are the Attorney General and Acting Attorney General the only two that can appoint a special prosecutor?
TITLE 28--JUDICIAL ADMINISTRATION
CHAPTER VI--OFFICES OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
PART 600--GENERAL POWERS OF SPECIAL COUNSEL--Table of Contents
Sec. 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel
when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and--
(a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and
(b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the
matter.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/doj/28cfr600.1.html
April 25, 2007 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Senate cannot simply revoke its confirmation of the A.G. Instead, the House would need to initiate impeachment procedings as outlined in Article 1, Section 2, Sun-section 5 and Article 1, Section 3, Sub-section 6. As a commenter mentioned earlier, it is likely that the House might vote for impeachment, but that the Senate would not actually vote to convict, since a two-thirds majority would be required.
That said, I think the Dems ought to go after him. Largely because I think we still need discovery. The issue has been deftly changed from "who ordered the removal" to "how incompetent is this guy," which allows the administration to avoid the worst fallout from the issue. A proper round of discovery might illuminate which caused the firings and the response to the story coming out.
April 25, 2007 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alternate reality, that's for sure. Welcome to the Matrix.
April 25, 2007 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
COULD THE ABA OR THE TEXAS BAR ASSOC. DISBAR HIM?
April 25, 2007 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why doesn't some enterprising young staffer do some research and compare the actual count of "I don't recall" answers from Gonzales with the congressional investigations of Mafiosi in the '50s. Lets see who comes wins in the stretch, the out-and-out mobsters or the political gangsters we are saddled with now.
April 25, 2007 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
One comment reads:
>As a lawyer, I'll tell you what this looks like: >papering the file. And you waste your time >papering the file for one reason, and one reason >only.
Could you explain to us dull-witted mortals without a law degree what you're referring to here? The suspense is killing me.
April 25, 2007 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with Malcontent. Absent full and complete answers, call him back and water board him in full view of C-Span. Let everyone see what Gonzo thinks is fine. There is, after all, an old saying that what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
April 25, 2007 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Punchy
I'm waiting for the answer to "paper the file", too.
April 25, 2007 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Have they tried "waterboarding" Gonzales???
He says it works for getting info from terrorists
April 25, 2007 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Give the guy a break, he is in the early stages of Gonzalzheimers.
April 25, 2007 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing becomes more and more clear when listening to the testimony of any hi-ranking Bush Admin offical in any situation where lying would mean committing perjury. That is, the phrase "I do not recall" really means "I cannot answer without incriminating myself or someone else in the administration".
Alberto Gonzales consistent use of poor recollection is beyond belief. What becomes even more evident in both his testimony and and others is that they place loyalty to Bush and the administration above loyalty to country. That is why Bush now has MORE faith and confidence in him that he did prior to Senate Judiciary Commitee testimony.
Gonzales proved that no matter how stupid or incompetent it makes him look, he will not tell the truth aboout anything that could be damaging to the administration.
April 25, 2007 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm guessing that you "paper the file" of an employee in order to create the trail that deprives him of a defense when you finally can him.
April 25, 2007 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
The technical term for what just happened is a "bitch slap", if I'm not mistaken. Ouch!
April 25, 2007 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
ENOUGH!
Why don't you serve him milk and cookies too?
What the hell? These bastards have stonewalled, lied, with held evidence and STILL they play nice with these thugs!
Do whatever it takes. If they don't show with the emails - jail them for obstruction of justice. Tell the Pillsbury Dough Boy to show up too. Tell Goodling, to shit or get off the pot. DO FUCKING SOMETHING!!! CHRIST! It's obvious to a 4 year old what these criminals are doing and we're STILL giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Enough.
April 25, 2007 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Threaten to send Gonzo to Walter Reed for medical help. That'll loosen his tongue.
April 25, 2007 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink