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WSJ: Former Rove Aide in Talks with Thompson Campaign
The Wall Street Journal reports (sub. req.) that Timothy Griffin, the former aide to Karl Rove who became one of the most controversial figures in the U.S. attorney firing scandal, is in talks with Fred Thompson's presidential campaign:
Backers look for Fred Thompson to use a June 2 speech to Virginia Republicans to step closer toward the race. Thompson allies have had discussions with Tim Griffin, the Arkansas U.S. attorney and Rove protégé, about taking a top job with the campaign.
Griffin, of course, was installed as the U.S. attorney for Little Rock last year. Emails from Kyle Sampson have shown that the Justice Department and White House were plotting to use a little noticed provision in the USA PATRIOT Act Reauthorization Bill to keep Griffin in place throughout Bush's term without the need for Senate confirmation. Alberto Gonzales has somewhat unconvincingly disavowed the plan.
But when that scheme was revealed, Democrats successfully pushed for the law to be changed back to the way it was -- a final version passed the House last week. As a result of that, Griffin will be forced out of office in four months or so. Apparently Griffin isn't waiting around for that. The Arkansas Times blog cites sources saying that Griffin may leave the job shortly.

Thanks Paul.
This is an interesting development.
May 30, 2007 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Put Thompson on the list of Repug candidates who cannot be trusted to follow the Constitution or hold a fair election.
McCain probably would.
Mitt Romney on the basis of pandering and the Guatanamo II comments probably would not.
Would Ron Paul hold a fair election? He does seem to tell the truth as he (weirdly sees it).
May 30, 2007 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Thompson is so on top of things if he's considering Griffin to help in his campaign. ROFLMAO!
May 30, 2007 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
So Thompson wants Griffin's caging talents. Interesting.
May 30, 2007 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Any chance of getting Thompson on the record on the shenanigans at Justice in general and the hiring of Griffin in particular?
It's pretty amazing to me that apparently Thompson et al don't think that Griffin is politically radioactive. It just goes to show he's confident that the press will continue to roll over for him (see e.g. http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh052107.shtml ). He's probably right.
May 30, 2007 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Thompson, who supports the felon Scooter Libby, is now in talks with Tim Griffin? I guess the re-pibuc-ans figure this is the election to completely demolish the Constitution.
May 30, 2007 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps it's Rove that Fred really wants on his team.
May 30, 2007 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
The brazenness of these people are nothing short of breathtaking. Not only has Fred Thompson been one of the few people on Scooter Libby's Defense Fund Committee to come out publicly in that role, but he looks to Rove for recommendations on setting up a campaign staff. The gene pool is really shrinking with these people--and does not augur well for future political IQ.
May 30, 2007 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Perhaps it's Rove that Fred really wants on his team."
Either way, it speaks to whom Thompson will bet with, and what he'll wake with.
May 30, 2007 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is time to get his fanny in the witness chair so that we can all learn that "caging" is not a direct marketing term and that Tim Griffin was the chief cage master and was installed specifically to enforce the phony "election fraud" scandal.
May 30, 2007 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
I assume that he will be giving up his US Attorney post to do this. However, with the Loyal Bushies, there is no reasonable expectation that this will happen.
May 30, 2007 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you can flip that around, Steve. My money's on Rove pushing Griffin toward Thompson. I think Rove's pick for succeeding Bush has just been revealed. It'll be very interesting to see what the right-wing base organizations do and say over the next few weeks. I suspect we may see some direct quotes from Dobson and others about the merits of a Thompson presidency; they've been pretty luke-warm on their options so far. We'll see...
Joe
May 30, 2007 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you can flip that around, Steve. My money's on Rove pushing Griffin toward Thompson. I think Rove's pick for succeeding Bush has just been revealed. It'll be very interesting to see what the right-wing base organizations do and say over the next few weeks. I suspect we may see some direct quotes from Dobson and others about the merits of a Thompson presidency; they've been pretty luke-warm on their options so far. We'll see...
Joe
May 30, 2007 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point Woodhall Hollow about Thompson's public defense of Scooter Libby. I'd forgotten about that one. Or on a more trivial level his ostentatious smoking of Cubans (in violation of the trade embargo). The brazenness is remarkable. It really tells you a lot about the kind of lap dogs he thinks the press will be for him. I hope (but don't particularly expect) he's wrong. It's up to the blogosphere to force the media's hand here and make them actually report.
May 30, 2007 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thompson: the corruption candidate!
versus Giuliani, the torture candidate and Mccain the war candidate.
May 30, 2007 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thompson: Cheney 2.0
May 30, 2007 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
This story assumes that Griffin will resign from the USA job to work on the Thompson campaign. In the great tradition of J. Michael Luttig, I think Griffin would keep his USA job and access, and use the office to indict the Democratic cantidate, assuring Fred's victory.
May 30, 2007 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
what's all this fuss about Tommy Thompson?
May 30, 2007 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't overlook the fact that scotterlibby.com (the site of Libby's defense fund) is hosted by Smartech of Chattanooga, TN.
http://www.robtex.com/dns/scooterlibby.com.html
Smartech are the same people that brought you:
gwb43.com (the main e-mail server of Karl Rove's shadow e-mail network)
rncqh.com (an RNC domain that Susan Ralston used)
ac4vr.com (fraudulent American Center for Voting Rights)
Glad that Fred Thompson is tied up with Scooter Libby and Smartech.
May 30, 2007 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Everyone should know by now that for any Repug to run a campaign one of the first members on your team is someone that specializes in dirty tricks, smear campaigns and fear mongering. Griffin is a Rove protege so Thompson may as well get one of the best out there.
May 30, 2007 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Luttig is a prick. He ruled on a case of mine. I got Cacheris (member of Federalist Society) to rule against the corporations in the Eastern District and Luttig (along with two other right-wing nut-jobs) overturned it.
In order for Luttig to come to the conclusion he did to overturn the case, he had to lie and torture the facts and reality, but right-wingers seems to make a living at that.
After all, this is the district where they try the terrorism cases - you know, the real threats like Jihad Johnny.
May 30, 2007 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tekel, you're forgetting that in order to keep his USA job beyond August or September, Griffin will have to undergo the formal Senate review process. He's already stated publicly that he won't do that because it'll be impossible for him to get a "fair hearing." He's Rove's guy. Anybody who thinks Rove is going to just stand on the sidelines for '08 is kidding himself. He won't take an official position (duh), but he'll be a significant presence none-the-less.
Joe
May 30, 2007 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Frank from CSI should run as well--
May 30, 2007 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here we go. The Anointed Establishment candidate is here.
What Romney and McCain and Guiliani seem to not understand is nothing matters about your campaign or your policies or platform. Once Big Business get's behind you, you are The One. The rest get cast aside, no matter what the Republican rank and file want.
What a joke, the republican horserace. The Dems already have a bought and paid for process, but it is not ironclad and the right candidate can smash their whole system. The Reichwingers, however, are entirely beholden to the Corporatist machine. Whichever candidate get's advanced by the Corporatists WILL be the nominee. There IS NO OTHER outcome in the republican process...the Anointed Corporatist WILL BE the nominee.
My guess is Frightful Fred knows this and hasn't made a single step that wasn't reinforced by his talks with The Powers. His slow movement to Announcing is a product of The Powers deciding they cannot go with McRomneyAni. It is OBVIOUS that none of these guys has the right STUFF to be a corporate puppet master. GWB was a perfect corporate PUPPET but hugely incapable and incompetent. The Powers are certain they are getting a much more EFFECTIVE and masterful tool inserted into the WH this time.
The curtain has been drawn back, and a know-nothing pawn who pretends not to be a corporate flak is just not useful anymore. The mask is off, why pretend like it isn't? say the corporatists. Fred can act all nicey nice...if that works for awhile....but he'll do right by us even if the whole disguise is not working. They need someone in office who can think on his feet and stay out of all the crap LeChimp stumbles into. Seriously folks, where do you think the corporo-fascist take-over would be right now if there was someone other than a 3rd Grader in the Oval Office? Sure Cheney has been riding herd at the WH but he is not the best tool or first choice. Too unpopular, too much corporate baggage, etc.
Anyways, we are wasting ink and kilobytes worrying about McRomneyAni. The only criterion for the corporotists is can you carry corporate water, and are you electable. McRomneyAni is NO on at least 1 out of 2. And the idea of Thompson saying "you mealy mouthed traitor of a liberal" at debates and on the stump has the corporatist's mouths watering. They know McRomneyAni would be very vulnerable in debates, etc...but that Thompson can carry-off just the part they want him to play. He's a more likeable, less viagra'd up version of Rush Limpbow with a legal degree.
See how he has flakked for Libby and derided MM's 'Sicko' for all you need to know about Fu*$cked Up Fred. Hopefully those two stories alone will follow him on the campaign trail.
May 30, 2007 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tekel-I now actually think Griffin will leave, (only because of the change in the law)but that may not be such a good thing. Now the office is under such scrutiny that Griffin is speaking to Boy Scout troops to kill time.
His replacement may operate under the radar to accomplish whatever it was that Griffin was assigned. God knows the senate isn’t going to demand a decent replacement, the USA's serve at the pleasure of the president, after all.
May 30, 2007 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
All the more reason to get Karl indicted and busy with his lawyers - if he's preoccupied with keeping his rear out of jail he won't have time to steal another election.
May 30, 2007 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Emily--
It's Fred Thompson, not Tommy Thompson. Fred plays the DA on one of the Law & Order shows, and reich-wingers have been talking about him for a spell. Latest compliment I heard about him was that he "looks presidential"--whatever that means. Methinks they're looking for another Reagan. Hoo boy.
May 30, 2007 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
This little prick ought to be sitting in jail, not working on even more political assassination campaigns.
May 30, 2007 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lord, look at these comments. Some people will believe anything. I will come back and post a picture of myself eating my hat if Tim Griffin has any role in that campaign. 90% of what you read about a campaign, particularly prior to an announcement is BS from people who are trying to position themselves. You might consider holding off on the name calling and conclusions until this is real and not some blurb on the internet.
Funny.
May 30, 2007 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Thompson wants to voluntarily pull the cloud of suspicion and criminality over his campaign by hiring a Rove secret agent, more power to him. It just serves to tell people that the Law & Order candidate is now working for the other side.
May 30, 2007 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's gonna need a job soon, they don't have spit for a candidate to date, lots of Rethug hopes are pinned on Freddy boy, Griffie having a role in his campaign seems a very realistic possibility to me.
May 30, 2007 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
DemWoman -
It's Fred Thompson, not Tommy Thompson. Fred plays the DA on one of the Law & Order shows,
Initially I had the same reaction ["I need to correct this"] that you did. Then I looked at the poster's signature: Emily Latella.
Do you not remember the SNL skits where Emily would go on & on about something she'd "misheard" -- like "violins in schools" - and then at the end of her rant, when corrected [violence in schools] she'd say "nevermind"?
I think this was the original poster's point.
May 30, 2007 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry, dearie. i'm so very old and fictional
May 30, 2007 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Emily are you any relation to Mrs. Panstreppon?
May 30, 2007 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe the Dems could roll out Martin Sheen to even the playing field. Fred amd Martin could go toe to toe in a debate and all. Could be fun.
May 30, 2007 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tim Griffin and Karl Rove have problems related to caging, a felony.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4594
Too many emails have been found and, incidently, turned over to John Conyers. The perpetrator was then the prosecutor, U.S Attorney for Arkansas. Interesting arrangement.
May 30, 2007 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two bad actors. If what Greg Palast says is true, Griffin is the master cager himself.
The right always wants and actor who can deliver his lines without smirking like "W." Reagan was their hero for that reason.
May 30, 2007 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two bad actors. If what Greg Palast says is true, Griffin is the master cager himself.
The right always wants and actor who can deliver his lines without smirking like "W." Reagan was their hero for that reason.
May 30, 2007 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, he wants to WIN. Rove and Griffin and the whole rest of them may be corrupt, crooked, immoral, unethical, anti-American, vile, and without any redeeming human qualities, but there's one thing...
THEY WIN!
And they are NOT in jail.
So Thompson wants to be President of the United States. Should he hire the idiot who told Kerry to go hunting and fight for the swing votes in the center? Should he hire the brilliant legal counsel who told Kerry that he shouldn't fight the Ohio recount? Should he hire the idiots who told Hillary to vote for the war?
No. He should hire the people who managed to steal two elections for GWB if he wants to be a WINNER.
Cynical? Sure. But true.
May 30, 2007 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
WHY, is it OK for a person from Hollywood to run for office as a REPUBLICAN / Conseravative (like Reagon, Clint Eastwood, Gopher from the Love Boat, one of the Duke of Hazzard boys, Arnold Sch., Sonny Bono, Jesse Ventura - he sure ain't no liberal) But if a person from Hollywood speaks up, as an American citizen has the right to do, for a Democrat or Liberal cause they are told to shut up and here is Hollywood again forcing these issuses down our throats. More of the same old REPUBLICAN diuble strnadrds they live on and love and fight for, Someone please explain............
May 30, 2007 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone with Rove's finger prints and semen in his stomach will set the poison traps for the gullible public to lap up. This political theater would be entertaining, if it wasn't costing the US so many lives.
May 30, 2007 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
How is it exactly that Tim Griffin has been in the US Army Reserves since 1996, but only been called up to serve in Activy Duty for 10 months (only a portion of it in Iraq, the rest in Kansas)?
May 30, 2007 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll believe Griffin is gone when it happens.
But, if Griffin does leave, it may mean that Rove and Co. are giving up on their plan to use the USA to hound Hillary next summer. Hope that is true for any of the other conveniently placed USA in candidate states.
May 30, 2007 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder who his producer and director is, and who he'll hire as his screenwriter.
May 30, 2007 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought Tim Griffin was supposed to investigate the Clintons until he could get some sort of flimsy indictment to make the possible Democratic nominee look bad, right before the 2008 election. I supposes that he's be unable to turn anything to turn up anything, just like Ken Starr and his millions spent investigating dry holes. If the best the Clinton haters can do is highlight to conflicting new books, will they have to make it up--just like the Swiftboating of War Hero John Kerry. Chris Matthews of Hardball keeps a narrow point of focus on the Clinton's marriage, but cuts off any discussion of Guiliani's & Gingrich's very public divorce and infidelity.
Has the world seen the photos of Thompson's much younger trophy wife and a dress that makes her look like a tramp. Captions will be needed to keep her separate from his older adult children. Family Values, my ass!
May 30, 2007 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
And here it is - from the guys themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du9QWpCWbbY
Too bad about RFK's voice - That's a candidate!
May 30, 2007 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Thompson demonstrates a willingness to cover up Bush's crimes, the Bushies will throw the full weight of their criminal enterprise behind him--and that probably includes the tacit support of the Corporate Media.
May 30, 2007 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
hahahahahahahhahahahahahhaha I love it. first thing he does publicly is admit it is talking to a rovian criminal that is subject to ongoing federal investigation.
brilliant man this fred. fidel is putting something in his cigars.
May 30, 2007 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I swear Timothy Griffin look exactly like Larry Linville, who played Frank Burns in the TV Show M*A*S*H. He was the incompetent right-wing doctor that said things like, "As I see it, unless we all conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly there's no possible way we can remain free!"
May 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I will come back and post a picture of myself eating my hat if Tim Griffin has any role in that campaign. 90% of what you read about a campaign, particularly prior to an announcement is BS from people who are trying to position themselves."
Funny? No Jamal you are the funny one. We would NEVER trust a RepubliCON to post an actual picture of anything. It's kind of like "the insurgency is in it's last throws, if you will" per Dick. How many of our troops have been killed since the criminal vice president let this "bomb" go. 10 killed Memorial Day. Good job you RepubliCONs. Reich wingers need to sign up today to go to Iraq to bring "democracy" to a country that doesn't want American democracy.
May 30, 2007 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
just goes to show thompson's true colors. once a washington lobbyist/insider, always a washington lobbyist/insider...
but thompson is the real deal as far as wingnuts are concerned. he is the only candidate that they can put forth as the "reagan" heir, although he's nothing of the sort. at least reagan had the executive experience of being california's governor. thompson's been a lobbyist, an actor and a senator (in order of experience). he has no foreign policy experience and thinks calvin coolidge's fiscal policies were good.
this is a candidate we need to frame early and often as the inexperienced lobbyist/dc insider before he gets out his little red truck and convinces america to have a beer with him.
and another war.
May 30, 2007 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
C 92@May 30, 2007 02:15 PM - I think Griffin was supposed to have served in the JAG reserve from 9/05 to 9/06. He was at Fort Campbell in Kentucky from 9/05 to 5/04 which is when he supposedly went to Iraq for four months.
I say supposedly because another member of the TPM Cafe and I took a look at the email addresses used by Griffin in that period. If he exclusively used john.t.griffin@us.army.mil when he was in Iraq, he wasn't in Iraq in May 2006.
I posted about the emails and other information about Griffin's resume in the TPM Cafe (link below - be advised that the thread is slow to load.)
Griffin's resume is really pumped up if it isn't out and out not true.
As an aside, I heard some Democrats high up the food chain are taking a hard look at Griffin's resume.
May 30, 2007 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tim Griffin was in charge of vote caging for the Bush-Cheney campaign. An illegal activity.
May 30, 2007 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read it and weep:
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-goods-on-goodling-and-the-keys-to-the-kingdom/#more-1739
:-)
May 30, 2007 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
@Mrs. P:
If Griffin was using an Army e-mail from Iraq then those records should be FOIA'd. It might be interesting to see who else he was e-mailing, if you know what I mean.
And something that's really been bugging me. When Monica was circulating the reasons for US Attorney dismissals, the talking points sheet for Tim Griffin got packaged in there too.
My question -- who wrote the Tim Griffin talking points? The documents released show no developments or refinements -- only a final copy. Do you suppose it was Tim Griffin, from Iraq?
May 30, 2007 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fascinating facts about Thompson: recites admin talking points on the Plame scandal, member of the Libby Legal Defense Trust. See this article in today's Huffington Post by Mark Kleimen.
May 30, 2007 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Html not working? Here's the link in plain text …
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-kleiman/fred-thompson-and-scooter_b_49926.html
May 30, 2007 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
List Thompsons achievements in Congress._______________________________________
________________
Well, there was that personal life smear campaign he ran against Clinton.
Could the Dems get a movie star to run against Thompson since this country seems to believe the personas they play on the screen. God Help America.
May 30, 2007 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
right after he's done cleaning out the file cabinets in the little rock office
May 30, 2007 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
A picture of Fred and his wife. A lovely pair !!
http://wonkette.com/politics/divorce/republican-family-values-fred-thompsons-trophy-wife-247154.php
May 30, 2007 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Griffin's getting pushed back in Arkansas.
A school mine consolidated with is suing a Florida power company, Tampa Electric Company, that is lenient on tax for a coal fired power plant in Northeast Arkansas, the First District, of which Cummins(ousted to promote Rove's man Griffin) was responsible.
The original company behind the coal power plant was Enron. It's undergone a couple of transfers since. GenPower was one of the other groups named in the suit.
Needless to say, there's a high probability that the non operational plant is being allowed to sell emissions credits under the EPA rules to other operational facilities...
So Griffin is probably poisoning air in up to three other states while he's covering for a group with ties to jeb's state.
Then he's going to bail and work with Fred Thompson. The Little Rock district also won a suit vs. a Diebold subsidiary from Dallas TX, Sequoia voting technology. The former Sec. of State for Arkansas was ousted over its kickback scheme.
As Diebold loses suits in one sitrict it transfers the hardware elsewhere to stel those races, at exhorbiatant expense to taxpayers.
May 30, 2007 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred's son needs a job
May 30, 2007 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Latest news: Entergy users will probably see rate hikes. Just in time for summer. Predaotry pricing, Entergy is a big player in the first district and Arkansas as a whole, also has elements linked to the coal fired plant that went under with Enron.
Griffin got in to cover them. Expect nationwide utility issues and the profit will launder additional republican dirty tricks campaigns..
May 30, 2007 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Griffin resigns:
The U.S. Justice Department has notified "Arkansas's congressional delegation that Interim Eastern District U.S. Attorney Tim Griffin is resigning effective Friday, June 1. Jane Duke will become acting U.S. attorney. (This is the assistant in the office who the Justice Department once had said had to be passed over as an interim appointee because of her pregnancy. Since it's illegal to discriminate on account of pregnancy, Justice had to back off this statement.)"
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/
May 30, 2007 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do we know that Bush won't veto the provision to restore the appointment of prosecuting attorneys requiring advice and consent of the Senate?
May 30, 2007 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arkansan@May 30, 2007 07:34 PM - Hot news! Link to Arkansas Times blog below.
May 30, 2007 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink