Can anyone clarify if Specter has the authority to speak for the SJC? He's not the chairman anymore.
I understand that he is floating a trial balloon, and perhaps with permission from the committee.
Sure would like to know if Judiciary Comm. backed him up on this.

There is absolutely no reason to compromise! Why is Specter putting forth a compromise position when the WH has not said anything? Better yet -- why should anyone in the WH be held to any lower standard than anyone else? We would have to swear an oath.

I am sick and tired of this crap, and I know a lot of other people (Rep and Dem both) who are as well. The Republicans had better get busy and goad the WH into giving up the goods so this mess can get finished.

They were the ones who elected this idiot and his sidekicks to office. If they want to survive as a party, they had better find a way to control him. I hear the fat lady testing her tonsils in the practice studio...

There is absolutely no reason to compromise! Why is Specter putting forth a compromise position when the WH has not said anything? Better yet -- why should anyone in the WH be held to any lower standard than anyone else? We would have to swear an oath.

I am sick and tired of this crap, and I know a lot of other people (Rep and Dem both) who are as well. The Republicans had better get busy and goad the WH into giving up the goods so this mess can get finished.

They were the ones who elected this idiot and his sidekicks to office. If they want to survive as a party, they had better find a way to control him. I hear the fat lady testing her tonsils in the practice studio...

Just send the Sergeant-at-Arms to the White House already, armed with a subpoena, a six-shooter, and some back-up. Roll the cameras so we can all see that the White House is blocking the issuance of a Congressional subpoena by force of arms.

That's the visual this country needs to see, and the White House is playing perfectly into our hands if we just take them up on their challenge. Rove won't be able to leave the White House, so we'll get to see Mrs. Rove bringing him bologna sandwiches, Fritos and Snapple every morning, along with a clean shirt and the new Readers' Digest.

We have in our grasp a visual demonstration of White House lawlessness. Can we not seize it?

To paraphrase Senator Feingold - It is time to begin using the Congressional Power of the Purse!

Congress must insist on sworn, public testimony. We can all see how Democratic attempts to get at the truth are going. All Congressional business should be brought to a standstill until Bush gives in on this issue.

The poll out today showing a 23% approval rating for Congress shows where the Democrats are getting by playing a civilized game with unashamed criminals. It is time to get tough in the Senate, or out with Harry Reid.

By the way, how about starting with booting Joltin'Joe from his committee positions. After his vote to uphold the Republican filibuster on Gonzales, no one can have any doubt which side of the aisle he's really on. It is the duty of the Democrats to appoint committee chairmen who represent the will of the voters. Joe is about as far from that as Osama Bin Laden. Out with him, and damn the results of acting in accord with our positions.

i just want to know one thing: why does bush continue to get everything he wants all the time?

why?

what is his secret potion?

bill clinton, one of the most polished and persuasive president in american history, got almost NOTHING he wanted. ever!

bush, the most idiotic and clueless dolt of a president we've ever had, gets everything he wants.

who can explain this conumdrum?

Wait, is it the *same* crime to lie to investigators under oath and without it? If so, why would they resist the oath if it's still illegal to lie? Might they be able to loophole out of any problems by relying on this distinction?

Must be under oath, and must be a transcript. They can hold the hearing privately in Port-a-John for all I care...as long as I get to read the transcript.

Someone has told Specter he's not Chairman anymore, right?

Frankly, at this point, when multiple officials have testified and been extremely less than forthcoming, if not outright misleading, I think we can't be so compromising. It's not like we'd be saving the White House any embarrassment; anyone who could express confidence in Alberto is beyond embarrassment.

I'm not interested in court cases either, but it's time to cut the crap. The White House sees offers of compromise as weakness. Congress must get tough with them before they'll pay attention.

Arlen is a menace. Every time that he tries to broker a deal, he is actually shilling for the WH.

These kinds of people should testify in the open, under oath. I'm very interested in hearing from those who have subverted our once beautiful America. Scoundrels!

I agree fully with Sojourner & On the Clock - time for Congress to go ahead and tell TurdBlossom "Go ahead and make my Day " The only remaining question is when - My "cheap seats vantage point " tells me that the Dems need to run the track on getting Meir & Sarah under oath.
I am still betting the Democrats have other " already answered questions" to be asked before we go & collect the "evil Doers" .That is we may need to let the Confrontation with The WH be made at the most advantageous time.
I wonder if they already are about to indict other high ranking Republicants - Conyers , Leahy & Schumer are smart prosecutors _ I am still betting we are just on the Cusp of the Final Smackdown with the Busheviks...

I understand the theory of Executive Privilege to some modest extent, but given that Miers and Taylor no longer work at the White House, exactly how can Bush, in a practical sense, protect them from having to testify?

Seems that you set a date and a time, and if they don't show up, you send the House Sergeant-at-Arms around to bring them in.

If this were the sole crime of BushCo I would be a bit more enthusiastic with Congress spending its precious resources and time investigating thios matter, however, te Iraq ware wages while this administration in an unfettered fashion reviews the e-mails and cell phone conversations of millions of US citizens without a warrant issued by an indepedent judiciary after having determined that probable cause exists under the Constitution.

The investigation of the DOJ, Alberto and his cast of repub automotons will result in nothing. Mark my word. Because of no real results will follow, this will be and is colossal Congressional failure and a grand waste of time, although it gives this blog and many others a chance to toss the word salad on a daily basis.

By the way, what is the status of the investigation of the administration's warrantless intrusion and search of millions of e-mails and cell phone calls of US citizens? The answer, nowhere, all while they waste time on this with no results to date and nothing but court challenges to merely get testimony for the next year at least

FAILURE!

Arlen S is a sell out and he doesn't need to be floating and balloons to check the W.H. temp!

There is(was) a consitution and Mr Spector for once We The People want it Followed!

The politicalization of the DOJ is a horrible abuse of power and an attack on our Constitution. However, it is not one of the issues most voters wanted investigated when they put the dems back in control of Congress. That is why their approval rating is now lower than for Dubya.

People want to know if this administration lied its way into an unnecessary invasion of Iraq. They want to know about the no-bid contracts for Halliburton and other "friends of George & Dick." They also want to know what happened with FEMA and New Orleans. They want to know which oil company executives met with Cheney and what they talked about and why the oil companies are being allowed to benefit from the excess profits and tax cuts that they have done nothing to earn and are unjustified.

Wow! just like when we were kids and knew we were telling a fib. We just put one hand behind our back and crossed our fingers. That made it all ok.

Are we forgetting that if the ex-staffers are subpoenaed, and the White House says “no”, it doesn’t matter? It’s not the White House that can be placed in cuffs and hauled into court… it’s the ex-staffers.

And that is how it SHOULD play out! For Congress to allow it to happen, and then sit there after Bush “forbids” the ex-staffers to appear, and grouse about their options, is to acknowledge that Bush even has the authority to do that!

What is the White House going to do… send Secret Servicemembers over to the ex-staffers’ houses, throughout Virginia and Maryland, to prevent the marshals from arresting them?

Okay, fine. Bring it on, then. BUT DON’T CEDE THE BUSHIES THIS AUTHORITY. Permission is not necessary. Just grab ‘em and toss ‘em in the can.

And don’t let that fuck Specter broker a so-called “compromise” with witnesses! What's to "compromise"? SPECTER IS NOT IN CHARGE! (Allegedly... WE are!)

Just enforce the damned law, and go home. That’s what we sent you there for, guys ‘n’ gals.

I am not a lawyer, but Specter's contact of the president's lawyer, after subpoenas were issued, is not legal. I have just called Leahy and Whitehouse and tried to call Kennedy and Durbin. Congress's poll numbers are in the toilet because they won't indict for perjury, violations of the Hatch act, and election fraud. May they go ahead with that, but I am not at all confident. Specter himself needs to be investigated.

The Bushboys are going to play out their problem with the Congress as long as they can.

The Dems need not to overreach. If they do, then the Bushboys will have more time to play.

Of course the Bushboys will squeal like stuck pigs but only off the record, in those private conversations concocted for their media pals. Bush will just say, nope, sorry I can't do that without abdicating my responsibilities (are there really none? Sorry, I just had to lob that one into...) as doing what's best for the American people. I can just see the camera cut-ins (already agreed to by Bushboys and news show producers?) for his little homily to "the American people", intended to portray his critics as anti-American....

Bush is drowning in a world with which he has little if any contact anymore. It is pathetic. Glug, glug ...

I'm curious as to how Arlen Specter, creator of the "magic bullet theory" as a member of the Warren Commission, has become the spokesman for accountability. Further, in his position as the credible GOP senator who's now trustworthy for "checking" the president, he's not even actually doing it. He reminds me of McCain and the torture bill.

It's a complete smoke and mirrors show. The ironically named Specter is only putting forth an apparition of credibilty and an illusion of holding the president accountable to the laws of the land. Instead, he "compromises" by giving the president what he wants.

Also, the "it's illegal to lie to investigators anyway" line... What a complete slap in the face. Seriously, if it's "illegal" to lie to "investigators," what's the point of an Oath? How much less illegal is it to lie if you haven't sworn an Oath? And if there's no difference, why not just take the Oath?

If you want to know what's happening in our country and why these people we've "elected" are doing what they're doing, in Iraq, in Congress, in the Media, watch America: Freedom to Fascism. You can Google Video it.

Unfortunately, the truth is a commodity in D.C.

And as we've learned over the last 40 or so years, the GOPers prefer their commodities privatized, as far away from public access as possible.

How do we declare the stonewallers terrorists?

Sure, that was a tongue-firmly-planted-in-cheek suggestion on the surface, but I sincerely want to know how the American public can turn this around and frame this action of perpetually obstructing justice from the White House as a national security issue. How is it protecting the rest of us, this withholding the truth?

Another Spector sell-out. Trying to cover the asses of the White House and appear at the same time as "trying" to get to the truth.

Who in hell does he think he's fooling?

Keep in mind that it was his office in the first place that set up the proceedure to bypass the Congress.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

"Am I missing something? Under what authority does the White House have to prevent private citizens from obeying a congressional subpoena?"

I was wondering the same thing. Both Miers and Taylor have resigned. They no longer work for Bush. What legal basis does the WH have for saying they cannot testify?

d

Feinstein kicks in at about the 42 minute mark about his doings at the DOJ

http://rules.senate.gov/hearings/2007/061307hrg.htm

Feinstein kicks in at about the 42 minute mark about his doings at the DOJ

http://rules.senate.gov/hearings/2007/061307hrg.htm

Von Spakovsky blames Schlozman -

He just gave legal opinions - didn't make decisions.. 2-I don't Recalls, 7-I don't remembers..

"Am I missing something? Under what authority does the White House have to prevent private citizens from obeying a congressional subpoena?"

I was wondering the same thing. Both Miers and Taylor have resigned. They no longer work for Bush. What legal basis does the WH have for saying they cannot testify?

Posted by:
Date: June 13, 2007 11:06 PM

Someone chime in if I'm wrong, but I think because they were attorneys acting as White House Counsel, anything they know about these matters "might" be considered (and this would be one of the myraid arguments for a courtroom) privileged. The attorney client privilege doesn't end when the relationship is terminated.

Patrick Leahy is the Chair of that Committee now.

Arlen Specter is "Magic Bullet" --
as dishonest as they come.

On one hand the Bushies place the bible above logic and the law and on the other hand... Well they won't place that one on the bible to testify why they put themselves above logic and the law.

If there is any compromise, it should be that those compelled to testify do so behind closed doors, under oath, and with a transcript. The time has come to end the three ring circus of public testimonies and get serious about determining whether there is sufficient evidence that crimes have been committed and to develop the evidence to prosecute them.

MarkusQ - you nailed it.

Oh you hackers out there....come on, spill the beans...we know all is available, just publish for the nation's sake.
No compromise. Bush didn't buy that propoerty in Paraguay (no extradition) for nothing. I'm sick of waiting for what we can have NOW!

There are two legal doctrines involved. One is executive privilege. The fact that these two women no longer work for the President does not mean that their conversations are not privileged. But, as noted above, executive privilege does not shield communications which are criminal, or which are necessary to investigate crimes. Also, it does not necessarily shield conversations that do not involve the President. That's where the second doctrine comes into play.

The other legal doctrine is the bizarre idea of a "unitary executive." This is a favorite doctrine of Bush, and Alito is a believer. This will be the subject of the District Court case, and it is going to the Supreme Court. But Bush will be playing with high stakes if he tries to take this all the way.

This thing can spin out of control right quick and lead to impeachment.

Please visit the Schapira blog, "What we know so far ..." at http://schapira.blogspot.com

"... and tell 'em Big Mitch sent ya!"

I hate lawyers.

How can Fielding possibly justify that Sara Taylor's work falls under Executive Privilege? Here in Germany this sometimes feels like some big game but seriously, it's about the Constitution and the rule of law.

This Unitary Executive thing has to be dismantled before the next president is elected.

And if we began impeachment hearings, doesn't that make executive privilege moot?

I second that!

if it had not been for a lawyer testifying at my trial for a purported fraud.....read for yourself at the url above.
This is reinforces that anyone MUST be under oath and with a transcript! this lawyer show up and claims not to remember where she banks, what her account number is, what her signature looks like!

this is the same bank where she took 75-year-old- client to disburse $400k settlement years ago how can she not know even the name nor address.

the system only functions if the person has to be under oath and under penalty of perjury to be able to verify all that is said.

we need to get "Gonzo" to depart a corrupt Department of Justice!

it is not "my government" (bush) it is "we the people being represented by a mentally challenge man!

I second that!

if it had not been for a lawyer testifying at my trial for a purported fraud.....read for yourself at the url above.
This is reinforces that anyone MUST be under oath and with a transcript! this lawyer show up and claims not to remember where she banks, what her account number is, what her signature looks like!

this is the same bank where she took 75-year-old- client to disburse $400k settlement years ago how can she not know even the name nor address.

the system only functions if the person has to be under oath and under penalty of perjury to be able to verify all that is said.

we need to get "Gonzo" to depart a corrupt Department of Justice!

it is not "my government" (bush) it is "we the people being represented by a mentally challenge man!

I second that!

if it had not been for a lawyer testifying at my trial for a purported fraud.....read for yourself at the url above.
This is reinforces that anyone MUST be under oath and with a transcript! this lawyer show up and claims not to remember where she banks, what her account number is, what her signature looks like!

this is the same bank where she took 75-year-old- client to disburse $400k settlement years ago how can she not know even the name nor address.

the system only functions if the person has to be under oath and under penalty of perjury to be able to verify all that is said.

we need to get "Gonzo" to depart a corrupt Department of Justice!

it is not "my government" (bush) it is "we the people being represented by a mentally challenge man!

What's behind the curtain that is so important that so many members in the Bush administration are so willing to perjure themselves or obstruct justice to protect?

Really, you think it's just Karl Rove behind the veil? If it were just about Rove and his wittle minions, they could throw him under the bus, he'd have a come-to-jesus moment with Paris Hilton, Bush would pardon him, and voila! Game over.

Someone keeps adding minutes onto the clock. Makes no sense.

Bush has 29% approval because his track record of lies, misuse, abuse, poor judgement, incompetence, etc....

Congresses approval is below Bush's because they won't do their job and stand up to him.

I agree with the guy up thread who said, just send the Sargent at arms to the white house loaded with pistols, cameras and subpoena's.

Bush's mentality is, this is already a banana republic, his banana republic, he doesn't give a rat's ass about the constitution. So the fear is that they'll send subpoena's over and he'll ignore them and suddenly you have a constitutional crisis. So be it. Draw a line in the sand and make sure that it is evident that he's the bad guy.

That's how they fucked up the war funding bill. They made it seem like they were the unreasonable idiots, unreasonably soft in standing up to the President. Before that incident they were at 55-60% favorability. Now their at 26% and so they know their in big trouble for appearing to have no spine.

Send the subpoena's over there and get on with the people's business.

NO COMPROMISE!

Under oath, with a transcript and in public!

Posted by: mark
Date: June 13, 2007 07:48 PM

I don't buy that Specter is being sincere. However, he is detailing a reasoned compromise -- against a WH which refuses to cooperate or compromise. Thus Specter's reasonable compromise -- which won't be accepted -- will backfire against the WH, and redound to the benefit of Congress. The WH can't get away for much longer with the ultimatum with 21 Republican Senators worried about their re-election chances. And if the WH flips them off also, then they aren't going to voluntarily lose their re-elections out of loyalty to the WH.

Meanwhile, the more the WH makes an issue of that which shouldn't be, the worse it looks for the Republicans. That, and Gonzales being where he is, keep the issues alive and front-and-center, and keep damaging Bushit, et al., and the Republicans.

Only pro-Bushit trolls -- assholes -- will whine at this being prolonged to the detriment not of the Democrats but to the Republicans. And when polled, they will continue to dis Congress because they aren't getting the impossible: instant results to satisfy their infantile demand for instant gratification.

While Specter dithers with his deal
Mosques go up in smoke in Iraq
Our soldiers duck and some still reel
In pain and die when the IED rocks
And rolls their little humvees.
The time has past for negotiations
With this brutal dick and smiley photoop w.
Too many coffins have come home in the night. It's time to confront them and give them a fright. And shake this nation awake.
Let's see if they'd dare, like Yeltsin did,
Surround our Congress with our tanks.

If Bush has nothing to hide and is on the up and up then there should be no problem with his aides testifing. On the other hand we know for a fact that he is a crook and should be removed from office if for nothing else but gross incompetence. I for one do not give a flip what party he belongs to. This is about my COUNTRY and if Clinton had done just one of the things Bush has done he would have been gone a long time ago. Talking about partisan politics, just look ant all the NO votes for Gonzo. Any Senator that voted no is playing partisan politics,or is out to lunch. Clinton has sex, and Bush @#%$s the whole country...where are the Republicans and the outrage they had about sex. Hell Bush and Co. have been getting off for seven years screwing the whole of the U.S.

By the way, what is the status of the investigation of the administration's warrantless intrusion and search of millions of e-mails and cell phone calls of US citizens? The answer, nowhere, all while they waste time on this with no results to date and nothing but court challenges to merely get testimony for the next year at least

FAILURE!

Posted by: tbhull
Date: June 13, 2007 09:00 PM

It's easier to be a pro-Bushit whining twit than to read what's right in front of your face --

LEAHY TO SUBPOENA WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING DOCS

The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a business meeting on Thursday to authorize subpoenas for any legal opinions and advice the Bush administration has received regarding the NSA’s domestic spying program.
(Think Progress)

The Republicans, not the Democrats, are the foot-draggers. So who, with all your superior intelligence and knowledge, do you bash? The Democrats.

Take it to Free Republic.

Intentional or not, Specter is calling the WH bluff . . . .

Posted by: bjobotts
Date: June 13, 2007 09:15 PM

Intentional or not, Specter is putting pressure on the WH that it doesn't want or need. It highlights the fact that they are not willing to cooperate or compromise. And that, as Leahy said, is stonewalling, which makes it look like that have something to hide.

That is a subtle escalation in Leahey's rhetoric, which indicates he so far has sufficient evidence on which to base those statements as being fact, beyond mere appearance.

If the WH isn't complying with Congressional oversight authority, specifically, and the Constitution, generally, aren't they a rogue agency? Why does it continue to be funded by the Congress?

The executive branch has effectively neutered the congress.

Both houses have been reduced to yawking and flapping their arms about executive branch malfeasance. Bush knows, by and large, Republicans Senators could care less about the integrity of the constitution and that most Dems don't have the guts for a real fight.

Point, set and match to the child-tyrant who occupies the WhiteHouse. Bush/Cheney have spearheaded the destruction of the Republic, with many willing enablers from both parties.

"At what point does Congress decide there is an alleged crime and therefore executive privilege does not apply?"

When a majority of the Committee/Congress agrees they have sufficient evidence to substantiate such.

". . . . Do only the courts get to decide if claiming executive privilege does or does not apply?"

Only if the WH decides to contest in court, makes it necessary that Congress go to court to enforce a subpoena.

"Posted by: K Ols
Date: June 14, 2007 02:32 AM"

This is a game of chess. You don't bring out the queen to soon. But they are pulling on the right string. At the end of this tiger tail are both the voter supression scandal and the illegal wiretapping. That sweeps up both Rove AND Cheney.

Plus, isn't S. Taylor's memo to Sampson and Goodlings testimony about that "uncomfortable" coaching by Gonzalez pointing to a WH orchestrated cover-up? It is always the cover up that brings the big guys down.

Specter's offer to compromise makes the WH look ridiculous. It anticipates the WH counter argument that the Senate is just using this opportunity for grandstanding.

I was surprised by Sara Taylor's picture in our local paper this morning. She looks even younger and less tested than Monica. Her appearance does not match the tone of those angry e-mails. What is her background?

Code word sail: As in, there is wind in the sail.

Specter is a tool and the Democrats in Congress are tools. They'll end up agreeing to no oath, no transcript, behind closed doors. After that, they'll offer a free Scooter resolution. I am so disgusted with these losers I could vomit.

Posted by: Helena Montana
Date: June 14, 2007 04:10 AM

Thank you for predicting the unpredictable future, pro-Bushit troll.

I'd tell you to go back to sleep except that you aren't awake.

Aw gee, and here I was hoping it was Mitch Spector who wanted to make a deal with the WH.

I have zero hope the Dems are going to do anything that leads to any sort of substantive punishment. It's a disgrace what has happened to this country and at a time when we desperately need people who will fight for the royally screwed American people we have folks who are more desperate to play nice with their colleagues. It's over, the Republicans won. I'm starting to question if the Dems are that much better. I guess they are but damn if they don't make it tough to vote for them.
Code Word: Pain
I had hoped pain would be inflicted on the lying Republican scumbags but it just keeps getting heaped on us, the people who are crying out for some truth.

If your going to continue being stupid, take it to Free Republic where deliberately ignorant shitheads like you are welcome.

No, ASS: It is _Y-O-U_ who are clueless.
Posted by: JNagarya

This board should do a poll- how many folks think JNagarya is the deliberately ignorant shithead who should get lost. I'm guessing a minimum of 70%. People are bashing the Dems not because it's fashionable, but because they deserve nothing but our disdain at this point. Take your blind fucking loyalty elsewhere. If Lieberman was still a Dem you no doubt would be defending him. Fuck off.

Specter is a Republican hack, and part of the problem. We are talking about a coordinated effort to suppress votes from traditionally Democratic voters, in addition to squelching criminal investigations into crimes by Republicans and companies who support Republicans. It is imperative that those subpoenaed testify in public, under oath. It is also imperative that Karl Rove is subpoenaed so that we can get to the root of the problem. No quarter! No compromise! No deals!

ROBinDALLAS

Posted by: Helena Montana
Date: June 14, 2007 04:10 AM
"Specter is a tool and the Democrats in Congress are tools. They'll end up agreeing to no oath, no transcript, behind closed doors. After that, they'll offer a free Scooter resolution. I am so disgusted with these losers I could vomit."

Given their six months of history since regaining power(?), you are correct. The democrats have no leader, so Specter is leading them. The democrats are just too damned stupid to know it.

If the democrats don't draw some blood, lots of it and pretty damned soon, they can forget a big win in 2008.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

This is what Spector did with Alberto Gonzales when he ran the judiciary committee hearings before--he OKd that he did not have to swear in. Why was that? If there was any wrongdoing, he could not be held accountable. This is what the American people want: ACCOUNTABILITY. I myself will call Patrick Lehey and let him know what my opinion is. Loud and strong.

Call me cynical but I just don't buy the "they know more than us, and they're just laying the foundation" theory for why the Dem leaders appear to be moving so slowly.

Sometimes I think the best we can hope for out of this is a FRONTLINE that clearly shows AttorneyGate as nothing less than a full assault on the two-party system, a subversion of the will of the people, and the destruction of the Constitution by the radical right in America. With dramatic music, of course.

Probably sometime in 2008. Maybe that will get peoples attention.

Posted by: rob
Date: June 14, 2007 09:50 AM
"Specter is a Republican hack, and part of the problem. We are talking about a coordinated effort to suppress votes from traditionally Democratic voters, in addition to squelching criminal investigations into crimes by Republicans and companies who support Republicans. It is imperative that those subpoenaed testify in public, under oath. It is also imperative that Karl Rove is subpoenaed so that we can get to the root of the problem. No quarter! No compromise! No deals!"
ROBinDALLAS

It's even bigger than that. The intent of some far right wingers, is to replace the entire government check and balance system with a "right wing "elite" by whatever means necessary.

And they are doing a pretty damned good job of accomplishing that.

It's so ripe, in fact, that the American people smell it.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

If the SJC is inclined to compromise in any way on the terms of testimony, they must not forget the precedent they set here. When they finally have the "big fish" in their sights and have previously compromised on the conditions of testifying, there's no going back.

They must tread carefully and consider the future ramifications of any concessions: Irrevocable.

Of course, if this administration had it's way all citizens would have an electronic ID card that would be reqired in order to log on to the internet. That would eliminate annonymous posters, as well as any with opinions that goes against the party line!

Come on repugs, are you so limited in your thinking that you can't even make up a name to use on a post?

Bush is telling all the robots what to do. And getting big laughs out of it. If you've ever known an alcoholic after years of drinking derive great pleasure at making everybody else look stupid too. like Jeff Gannon the gay hooker who visited the WH 200 times some over night visits. (Many work at the WH but few actually sleep there) He sat in the WH press corpse for 2 years without being "discovered." HA HA There's that sense of humor. Arlen magic bullet Spectre brokering the deal for the criminals to testify.Arlen...he can be trusted because he made up the faaabulous majic bullet story.

Arlen Specter: 100% USDA Inspected Pure Boneless Nitwit.

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