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Breaking: Judge Dismisses Plame Suit

Just off the wires is that the judge overseeing Valerie Plame's suit against the White House has dismissed the case:

U.S. District Judge John D. Bates dismissed the case on jurisdictional grounds and said he would not express an opinion on the constitutional arguments. Bates dismissed the case against all defendants: Cheney, White House political adviser Karl Rove and former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.


Comments (37)

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How much was the judge paid?

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Not surprisingly, the Judge (John Bates) was a 2001 Bush appointee, and was also appointed to FISA in 2006

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WOO HOO!!!

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lousy news, you would think this was Friday..

hey, Josh, John Kery's over at FDL, I think he just tossed you a compliment between the lines, ...

"I think some changes are already happening. Look at how the blogosphere put the U.S. Attorneys story front and center by doing good old fashioned reporting — true muckraking."

Good on John Kerry, maybe he'll become a bona fide blogger before it is all over with...

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"Failure to state a claim upon which relief can
be granted" AND "No subject-matter jurisdiction over plaintiffs' claim for public
disclosure of private facts"! Grand slam, homerun!!!

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Anyone who thinks the Plame case is "over" now doesn't know the law...

I've read more than one noted blogger who said this moment was inevitable, because of the Republican politicization that has spoiled our entire judiciary process.

This was a setback they all anticipated, but it certainly not by any means the end of it. And, again, this is one of those cases that can be re-upped again after BushCheney is gone and their stranglehold on the judiciary has been removed or assuaged.

For those of us who might grow impatient with the slow grind, just remember, time is on our side, especially the future.

All these "nothing but a GD-piece-of-paper- conservatives" have is the recent past, and that is now a guaranteed legacy of a failed administration, and the memory of one of the darkest eras in US history.

We have a whole future available to be patient with. None of these crimes will go away, they can just wait in the wings unitl a more democratic and less corrupt administration takes the reigns.

I doubt there will be much sympathy for these lawless rogues then. Or much protection.

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C'mon, JEP! You don't think they'll all be pardoned when Bush leaves office (if he ever does)?

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Bates also was on the Starr Whitewater investigation and he's the one who threw out the GAO's suit to gain access to the Energy Task Force records.

He's a real good Bushie!

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FroggieJake;

...no such thing as a blanket pardon, I once made the same stupid statement on Harry Reid's blog, and got taken to task about it.

Two points... any investigation begun AFTER bush is gone is completely out of his control. AND, there is NO SUCH THING as an open-ended pardon, you CAN NOT pardon someone or commute their sentences who has not been convicted.

So any sort of one-size-fits-all "universal pardon" you Bush idiots might imagine fits right in with the patterns of delusion we have seen for six years now.

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Joe Wilson for Senate! He could run for Pete Domenici's seat in New Mexico!

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"Bates also was on the Starr Whitewater investigation and he's the one who threw out the GAO's suit to gain access to the Energy Task Force records.

He's a real good Bushie!"

That is the real story in a nutshell.

Cry for Justice; until this administration is gone, her scales are broken, and our "constitutinal conservatives" all seem to be rejoicing in it...

HYPOCRITES!!

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"Joe Wilson for Senate! He could run for Pete Domenici's seat in New Mexico!"

I would second that nomination quite heartily, but I would guess Joe, Valerie and the twins might not WANT to go back in DC.

If there was ever a crowd of weenies, it is the ones who tried to take Joe Wilson down.

And most of them are in DC.

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Comment by Veritas at TP:

"If the trolls would take the time to read Bates’ official statement (but I doubt they can read) they would see that he is probably providing prima facie evidence of his belief in high crimes and misdemeanors by “people in the highest offices” right here."

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JEP:

So, you're saying that this was somehow an "invalid" pardon?

"I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."

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I didn't read the entire decision, however, did go to the Conclusion towards the end. It appears that the Judge is saying is that other federal potential remedies have NOT been exhausted before going directly to the court. To this end, the Judge specifically mentions the Federal Tort Responsibility Act. If I am reading and interpreting this correctly, does the Judge mean that the Plame/Wilson suit should be filed with a lower federal judge first under the above mentioned Act?

If any Con Law attorneys read this, I'm sure we'd all appreciate a layman's interpretation of this finding of law.

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Couldn't resist posting this comment I saw over at the The Next Hurrah over here.

"Semi-fiction from JEP;

US Headlines, ca. July 2007;

In response to their devastating election loss in November 2006, a secret branch of the Republican Party has developed a new organization, called "Trolls for The New American Way", which channels funds from Republican campaign coffers around the country to pay these "trolls," as they are known on the blogosphere.

"It is good to see experienced right wing bloggers are finally getting paid for their work," said one well-known troll who calls himself "King of Zouk, and who also uses many other names on "The Fix" blog at The Washington Post (despite the fact that The Fix host has promised not to let people post under more than one name).

According to sources close to the source, this new wave of Republican paid trolls has been recruited to infest the left-leaning, liberal blogs on the internet. When asked why these blogs were targeted, one Republican operative, who spoke anonymously, answered "cuz those go%$#&mn tinfoil-hat lib'rul sunsabitches on the blogs lost us the last election!"

When asked what they were being paid for their pieces, "Jake", a recent newcomer to the paid-troll ranks, said "We only get paid when someone responds, but that's so easy to do, all you gotta say is "Bush is Great!" and you get a whole string of responses from these stupid leftwing geeks! I'm rakin' in the dough, especially over at TPMMuckraker!"

When asked how much he was paid for his work, the new troll responded, "about a hundred bucks for every one who responds."

The interview then ended, because a fight broke out immediately among the trolls, apparently because some of the other trolls were only getting $50 for each response."

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Loyal Bushies indeed! Outing a CIA agent is all in day's work at the White House. See these gems on page 39 of the order:

"Thus, the alleged tortious conduct, namely the disclosure of Mrs. Wilson's status as a covert operative, was incidental to the kind of conduct that defendants were employed to perform."

"The Court finds that attempts by high-ranking officials to discredit a critic of the Executive Branch's policies satisfy the Restatement's purpose [of serving the master] requirement."

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Outing a CIA agent is all in a day's work at the White House. See these gems on page 39:

"Thus, the alleged tortious conduct, namely the disclosure of Mrs. Wilson's status as a covert operative, was incidental to the kind of conduct that defendants were employed to perform."

"The Court finds that attempts by high-ranking officials to discredit a critic of the Executive Branch's policies satisfy the Restatement's purpose [of serving the master] requirement."

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Don't forget, it was David Corn, not Novak, not Libby, not Armitage, not Cheney, and not Bush who told us that Plame was a covert agent.

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The judge is saying that under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA) Valerie Plame would have to file a claim with the appropriate agency as to the conduct of each person involved. A claim is simply a demand for relief. I suppose the claim for Scooter and Dick would go to the Office of the Vice President.

Once a claim is denied, then the claimant may have to go through an administrative appeals process, if there is one. I am unaware of an appeals board for claims against the Vice-President.

It is after that appeals process is over (and the claim denied) that the claimant can normally file a lawsuit.

It may be (and probably is) too late for Valerie and Joe to go back and file claims. It's been over 4 years, and the case is probably subject to Administrative Finality (similar to a Statute of Limitations).

There is an exception to the exhaustion doctrine - FUTILITY. In other words, a person need not go through the claims process when to do so would be futile (i.e. the Government was going to deny the claim without giving it any serious consideration). I can't think of a case that would more illustrate the futility doctrine. The Administration has already shown it would do anything to get Joe Wilson, including unnecessarily putting his wife and her colleagues in danger. What would make anyone think that the OVP would seriously consider a claim against it when the people at the top are the ones alleged to be responsible?

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Greggp,

Con Law sttorney? Thanks for the breakdown. What would the option be if the statute of limitation has run out under FTRA?

Could the case then be revisited? I wasn't able to determine from the ruling if the suit was dismissed with or without prejudice.

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Folks, Vatar points out a major mindfuck at work here. He states that David Corn was the 1st to figure out and write down the fact (later confirmed by in court proceedings during the Libby sentencing arguments, so kudos to Corn for some good investigative reporting), but fails to mention that most people in a position to know and to make definitive statements regarding the CIA identity, role, actions, and classified status of Valerie Wilson were/are prohibited from speaking about these facts due to their own security clearances and the oaths they were required to take and honor. Except, it seems, according to Judge Bates, White House political operatives...who were only doing there job.

A frightening new meaning of the idea of "unitary executive power" wherein the pigs can do whatever the hell they like, while us poor dogs shiver in the face of the awesome power of the law.

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Gollum would be saying today...

"All over the Washingtons we have the Master Bates's!" They wants the precious! Wicked, Tricksy, Master Bates's! Poor, poor Sméagol!

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So, who leaked Plame's covert status to David Corn? Plame? Wilson?

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Hi Helen,

This has more to do wtih administrative procedure than Constitutional law. There may be a time for filing the claim, although I don't see it within the text of the FTCA (often, a claim may have to be filed within 6 months).

In the absence of such a claim filing procedure, the underlying statute of limitations (SOL) for the jurisdiction where the tort action is alleged to have been committed would probably control. Assuming that would mean the District of Columbia, intentional torts such as libel and slander have a 1-year SOL. For torts not specifically mentioned (such as negligence, and perhaps invasion of privacy) the SOL is 3 years D.C. Code sec. 12-301. In any case, the right of action accrues at the time of discovery, and so it is probably about a year too late for the Wilsons to start over with a claim.

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Regardless of what transpires between now and the election next year the courts are largely lost to us. That part of Bush's de facto dictatorship will survive long after he presumably leaves office in 2009.

code, fittingly = blood

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Doesn't Judge Bates also own a Motel?

Or maybe I'm just confusing him with some Psycho relative of his?

Which may explain why Judge Bates is covering for the Republican Psychos in the White House, Republican Psychos who didn't think twice about disclosing the top-secret covert identity of a career CIA officer, who was responsible for protecting our nation, and our nation's children, from the threat of other Psychos getting their hands on nukes or other WMD.

Yep, Psycho-loving Judge Bates has done a great, great service for the criminal Psychos in the Bush administration, but has done a grave, grave disservice to our nation.

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Hi Gregg -- thanks for the additional clarification on the difference between Con Law and Administrative Law. Does all of this then mean that Plame/Wilson is SOL? What I STILL haven't heard a reasonable explanation for is WHY anyone in the Executive Branch in the White House would have a "Need-to-Know" the identities of covert/NOC CIA agents.

I have a background and training in Military Intelligence (US Army) and was an intelligence analyst at Ft. Bragg while assigned to the XVIII Airborne Corps. As such, I also had to undergo a thorough BI for TS clearance. The two determining factors in whether or not a person had access to to TS (or any level of classified information) was: 1. The appropriate level clearance to have access to said material; and 2. a "need-to-know".

It still eludes me WHY anyone in the White House would "need-to-know" the real identities of CIA operatives, and have yet to hear that issue addressed.

I still believe that this was a treasonous action on the part of the Bushies and that bottom line violation has yet to be addressed -- namely WHO in CIA leaked the info to begin with and to whom -- although I suspect it was leaked to Bush and/or Cheney.

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I STILL haven't heard a reasonable explanation for is WHY anyone in the Executive Branch in the White House would have a "Need-to-Know" the identities of covert/NOC CIA agents

That's the whole point. They didn't know. Nobody knew until David Corn told us she was covert.

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REP. DAVIS: Thank you.

Thank you, Mrs. Plame.

It's clear that the administration officials knew you worked for the CIA, but did they know that your status was that of a covert agent?

MS. PLAME WILSON: I have no way of knowing

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REP. DAVIS: But you don't -- I mean, I think one of the issues here was not that you worked for the CIA, because that was obviously why they'd know you in the administration, but for the crime to have been committed, I understand they had to have known that you were covert. And you don't have any direct linkage that they knew that you were covert at that point.

MS. PLAME WILSON: Again, Congressman, I'm not a lawyer, but as I said at my --

REP. DAVIS: You don't have any direct knowledge that --

MS. PLAME WILSON: No.

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Vatar,

Have you ever had a security clearance and have access to classified information? If you haven't, there are some implied rules when you are entrusted with a clearance and have access. Those are as follows:

1. You don't share that knowledge with someone who doesn't have a security clearance.

2. If you don't know if someone has a clearance you assume they don't.

3. If you don't know if information is classified, you assume it is and you keep your mouth shut about it.

Anyone who has had a clearance, access and honors that sacred trust also has the obligation to act responsibily in safeguarding that information.

To share any classified information with just anyone, such as a Robert Novak is a gross security violation. With as long as all of the members of the Bush Administration have been in and around the federal system, they should have known better.

If they believed that Ms. Plame was not covert they still should have kept their f**king mouths shut about it. That's just the way it is in the world of intelligence, particularly SCI.

If, by the way, as you allege, David Corn told "us" (source link and who is "us"), then why he wasn't he investigated by Patrick Fitzgerald? Granted, Fitzgerald is no Ken Starr and Fitzgerald stayed within the scope of what he was tasked with. But, I'm sure if there is merit to what you state, Fitzgerald would have obtained the necessary authorization to investigate Corn.

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Hello again, Helen,

Yes, I am afraid that it could mean that there is no available court remedy if this decision is not overturned on appeal.

I look at such a prospect as unlikely. Bivens actions (the sort of lawsuit that the Wilsons brought) have been seriously curtailed by the courts since the Supreme Court rendered its decision in Bivens v. Six Unidentified Agents of the Bureau of Narcotics, in 1971. The law of the United States is generally, and always has been supportive of soverign immunity. This case was always going to be an uphill battle. Perhaps the Wilsons should have filed a claim a long time ago, but it's too late now.

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Hello Gregg, Once again, thanks for the clarification you have provided to my questions. I'm still hoping that an appeal will be ruled on favorably, assuming an appeal is filed. This, in my eyes, is such an egregious and blatant violation of the responsibility of those with clearances and access to honor that trust and treat such information with the utmost of care and caution. I just read an article by Ray McGovern, a now retired CIA analyst who knew Ms. Plame, that not only did Mr. Wilson report there was no corroborating evidence to support the claim of Iraq trying to procure yellowcake from Niger, but two other people also did -- a 3 or 4 star Marine Corps general, and a former US ambassador (not Wilson). So, there were at least two OTHER substantiating reports of Wilson's conclusion. It appears that Wilson's loyalty to his country by exposing a side that disagreed with the administration did him in -- and his wife was shamefully used by the Bushies to that end. But, it also seriously undermined US security and has a chilling effect for any upcomings who might consider working with CIA (or any other intel agency) that also relies on covert/NOC agents. I could go on, but don't want to bore you. Again, thanks for addressing my comments in a cogent and intelligent manner.

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Bush has packed the lower courts with judges willing to do his bidding. He has packed government agancies with people whose only qualification is Loyal Bushiness. It will take years to undo this. If Stevens retires or dies, Democrats should block every nominee Bush puts up. Once the Supremes are completely tilted toward the right, we're all screwed. Add a GOP president like Il Rudy and we're one terrorist attack away from a fascist state with nothing to stop it.
Unless the Democrats in Congress start standing up to the Executive, we can't count on them to save the Constitution.

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I talked to Valerie and Joe 2 weeks ago at a book-signing, and she said that the case would be dismissed on jurisdiction. She said it is no problem; "jurisdiction" simply means the court feels it is a matter for a different court, in this case, a higher court.

The Wilsons fully expect and desire that the case be brought to the highest court.

That's from the Wilsons themselves.

(They brought their two kids to the book-signing from their nearby home in Santa Fe, so that they could experience it for themselves. This was a very touching experience for me. If you get a chance, I urge you to go and see her at one of these events. She is an amazing woman.)

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Pardon me?

Wasn't Plame's a civil suit, for which there is no such thing as a pardon?

And what's the answer to the question about whether a pardon can apply to crimes that are past but not prosecuted before the president leaves office?

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FroggieJake; "Two points... any investigation begun AFTER bush is gone is completely out of his control."

I wish you were right, but a look at history tells that the Democrats aren't going to go down this road. In fact, they're already refusing to go down this road.

The Democrats support for Michael Mukasey wasn't an accident, but a well thought out plan to cover their own complicity in the attack on Iraq, and especially in the light of today's news, their complicity/support (Pelosi, Rockerfeller, et.al.) who had been briefed (whether in the U.S. or in one of the torture prisons) in the illegal torture of prisoners.

The Democrats song will be that it's water over the dam or under the bridge, or it will distract the Congress and the American people from things that "really need to be done"....

No one, NO ONE, is going to pay or be held accountable for any of this.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

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