It would be interesting to know who is footing the bill for BGR's services.

Shoot -- all they have to do is get Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush over to Baghdad, and they'll be able to "elect" whomever they want!

Security Code: memory (as in "the American electorate seems to have the memory of a goldfish...")

You know I think what amazes me the most is how these guys turn this stuff into income. what pays their salaries? How do they make as much money as they do?

is all their income derived from government spending? Do these lobbyist get gobs of money from these companies to get kickbacks?

ugh, so disgusting this part of the world.

The speech of Bush's support for Maliki in his speech before the VFW yesterday will be remembered as an example of the quintessential liar this buffoon of a leader really is. Coupled with his Vietnam comparisons with the Iraqi debacle, the speech should be spot lited in a showcase in his 500 million dollar presidential library.

How appropriate that the code word for my comment is "snake".

Re Frank's comment:

Do you notice how much more bouncy and manic bush seems to become as the situation deteriorates more and more? It is really, really weird and bizarre!

Johann asks the key question: Who's paying them? Qui bono?

Let me get this straight, now the U.S. or entities within the U.S. who claimed to want "Democracy to flower" in Iraq, are now pushing for "overthrow" of the democratically elected government of Iraq? Nice! And we wonder why much of the world scoffs at us and calls us hypocrites?

Actually, this is all part of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) plan to preoccupy our country in perpetual war and distraction from their corporate agenda to capture world oil/gas reserves.

Gee, what else will we do in the name of democracy? We've already removed Aristide in Haiti and that's really gone well, we took out Saddam, we play these geopolitical games of implant and remove all over the world for generations, yet if you believe the Fox News bullshit, we're "just trying to help everyone around the world spread democracy." Somehow it seems the words "spreading democracy" is a code word for making shit up to take out world leaders we don't like and/or desire their resources, and enriching the U.S. Military Industrial Compound.

Here's more on the overthrow of Aristide and U.S./neocon motivations.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0302-08.htm

I believe this has been the goal all along to some day make Allawi, the CIA guy, the strongman leader of Iraq.

He was the first man Bremer "handed over" power to in June, 2004, the Bushies/Levin have allowed the so called Democratic process of a flawed vote in Iraq take its course, and now they're/U.S. political establishment (Dems and Reeps) are going to push their man into power.

We're their for the oil and Allawi is the man the establishment always wanted in power.

Yeah, more great news from the neocons. Aside from being the CIA's puppet, he was involved with the INA (Iraqi Mational Accord) which supplied erronious information to M16 about WMDs. A childhood friend of Saddam's and extremely close ally/relative of Chalabi. The former minister of trade in Iraq was Ali Allawi (Chalabi's sister's son and cousin to Ayad).

Allawi, as Spencer will recall, has been the subject of coup rumors for 2-3 years now, maybe longer. It's been SO long.

Juan Cole runs an item today from a well-placed source that coup rumors are once again flourishing.

Bush thinks Maliki's doing a heckuva job. Well, too bad, there is no government left to take over

Someone tell Levin and Hiilary

So Bush had good things to say about Maliki, so what. If you live in the Greater NYC area or happen to be a Yankee fan (Boooo) you know full well that Steinbrenner always endorsed the manager a week or so before firing him.

too good, the security code is... fire.

Bush, we want you out of office. And everything about you erased from public view. And on your way out of America stop at every city on the way and apologize for your lies and the ruin you done. But thats not all. Your last act is to stand before the country, put your legs between your legs and kiss your arse.

If anyone has any doubts terrorism will be around for a long time, just take a look at this single move uncovered. It's US guys. WE are the ones promoting terrorism. WE have been supporting regimes here in the United States that have one single purpose.... to control us and the rest of the world. Both Reps and Dems... the two divisions of ONE mob have been and continue to turn us and the world into little puppets.

I'm discusted with ALL incumbants of BOTH parties. All the dlaws being passede by BOTH parties are doing one thing... giving those in charge more power while, at the same time, diminishing the once sacred democracy our ancestors fought for.

Both parties, meanwhile lie to us and tell us they are only there to help us. No, folks, they are only there to increase their power, and when push comes to shove, they will support their opponents power struggle... anything but give away their power to the folks down here who were meant to govern through their representatives. Our congressmen and senators no long plan.... they plot... and they are plotting with other crooks in BOTH parties.

Remember what a fiasco they just had with the ethics bill... while a Minnesota bridge was falling down, killing people.

Remember the promises to stop the war, and the funding bill they passed after election. Remember their outrage at the spying on our own citizens... and their hurry to pass further spying because they were in a hurry to leave Washington.

These guys are NOT representing anyone but themselves and their cronies... and they have convoluted the system so much that even treasonous behavior only means a lifelong pension if caught.

This little manipulation in Iraq is just a representation of what occurs at our own election booths every couple of years. We look at it and are astounded at what is going on but we cannot even see that the exact same thing has been going on here for way too long. It's a terrible thing our leaders are doing... attacking Iraq without cause. However, this war is also killing lots of innocent American folks... and this is just as terrible.

The problem is.. we continue to focus on Bush for the war, when it took a vote from Congress to actually instigate the attrocities.

I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that BOTH parties voted to start killing people. I also believe that it was the arrogance, greed, and subversion of power by BOTH parties over many years, interfering in many countries, which brought us to the place we are now. "We the People" have taken a concept rare in this world... one which was meant to give power to the common folk to self govern, to work together in struggles for the common good... we have taken this idea and, over the years, allowed special interests to subvert it into an evil, self interest entity which has no second thoughts of sending innocent people to their deaths for its own gain... all the while, blaming "the other guys" for the problem... IMHO

Posted by: disgruntled family member
Date: August 23, 2007 1:52 PM

Yes! All of these are excellent points of fact.

Charlie Black represented Chalabi. More of the same.