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Fired USA: Mukasey "Gets It"

Michael Mukasey sought to assure senators (and seems to have been successful) that there'd be no repeat of the U.S. attorney firings scandal on his watch.

So, now that Mukasey's hearings are done, what do the fired U.S. attorneys think about Alberto Gonzales' replacement?

Former U.S.A. for New Mexico David Iglesias, for one, is pleased. "It appears to me that he gets it," he told me. "He understands the necessity for having an independent attorney general and an independent Department of Justice." Iglesias added that he liked "the fact that he's a former federal prosecutor. He understands that you have to build an absolute firewall from politics."

I'd "really be surprised if my colleagues hold different views from this," he added.


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"If the boss tells me waterboarding ain't torture, it ain't torture."

Your credibility is on shaky ground, David.

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Billy,

I don't get your reference: Is this something Iglesias said or something that Mukasey said? Or is this an interpretation of something either of them said?

I think that Iglesias's optimism might be because Mukasey has that background as a federal prosecutor. Note that Iglesias uses the word "appears"; he sees the possibility that Mukasey "gets it."

The contrasts between Gonzales and Mukasey are already striking, in that rather than finding words NOT to answer the committee's questions, Mukasey has worked to find the words to answer the questions without betraying Bush's trust. If Mukasey does indeed get it, then it's essential that he at least demonstrate that balance, so that he can have the chance to get the job.

If this is part of what he interprets, I don't see how this compromises Iglesias's credibility. Please elaborate.

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always keep in mind that none of these federal prosecutors felt any compulsion to speak out UNTIL they had been publicly accused of being fired for cause. i'm not convinced they are all that opposed to the shredding of the constitution and the depraved policies this administration seeks to impose.

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Senator Whitehouse's shrewd line of questioning exposed Mukasey for what he is: a Gonzales clone, only with a bit more polish. If Whitehouse was able to force this smooth talker into announcing before a world-wide audience that torture can be rationalized as legal, we can expect the same Gonzales-like maneuverings in Justice outside the view of Congress and the public.

Whitehouse exposed Mukasey as a fraud. Iglesias, in rushing to prove his Republican credentials, is not willing to acknowledge that.

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My gutt tells me Billy Pilgrim may be right-

At least that is what I got, watching the span, and seeing Liebermann two seats away from the nominee...

Hope not, but I ain't holding out any hope-

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linda

I would tend not to issue a blanket indictment against all the fired prosecutors. It must be remembered that all were dismissed because of dissatisfaction with their unwillingness to toe the party line. Credit indeed must be given to David Iglesias, because his initial outcry is what spearheaded the subsequent series of investigations, culminating in the resignation of numerous miscreants. Unfortunately the fired proscutors, for whom the Democrats in Congress came to their defense, are still card-carrying Republicans. I agree with you that they maintain their principles only up to a point.

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Perhaps Mukasey will be independent from the White House. Perhaps also he holds most of the same views about the justice system and the WOT as the White House.

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I've lost track of how many senior positions are unfilled at Justice, but wouldn't it be reasonable to at least request that Mukasey appoint Iglesias to one of those posts?

Actually, all of those fired USAs represent a pretty solid talent pool, if the GOP wants to turn toward the light. Otherwise, the only mistake they made -- in their minds, of course, not mine -- was to get caught.

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I'm in agreement with Billy Pilgrim on this. Unfortunately, just the fact that Bush nominated him is enough for me to suspect Mukasey. It's kind of a 'catch-22' that way . . .

But I suppose that it's better to have SOMEONE start filling some of those empty seats at Justice. I just wish we could really count on Congress to keep a close eye on who Mukasey picks. But I have NO confidence in that regard. The Democratic majority has been an intense disappointment.

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Given the past seven years, and as a Bush nominee/appointee, let's not be surprised if Mukasey is a disappointment...nobody, but nobody(unless it's some little guy down at the bottom of the chain of command) will be prosecuted for war crimes, or trying to circumvent the Constitution.

And if Bush, Cheney, Rice, Gonzales and Rumsfeld aren't war criminals, then none have ever existed and the term is only a catch phrase for misdemeanors.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

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Look, Mukasey is a Bush appointee, vetted by the Bush gang. What you have here is Alberto Gonzales with a brain.

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It's absolutely unbelievable to me that people STILL think Bush is going to appoint ANYONE who isn't willing to toe the GOP line and continue shredding the Constitution in favor of some Banana Republic style government. It's just not going to happen and, quite frankly, I'm sick of everyone acting optimistic at nearly every change in personnel.

I mean, how many times does this have to happen before people catch on? Is the entire country suffering from battered wife syndrome?

Wake up!!!

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Anyone who believes that waterboarding is not necessarily a torture, does not, in my opinion, belong anywhere near folks deciding upon interrogation technics.

There are many cases in which our leaders condemned other nations for waterboarding, stating it WAS indeed torture.

Now, apparently we ARE one of those nations... some of which are now part of "the axis of evil".

If we have joined them, perhiaps Congress should introduce a bill exonerating those who waterboard... and those who chose to in the past...

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If Mukasey had any integrity he would condemn water-boarding as torture under the Geneva Conventions and is a violation of U.S. law.

Then the administration would yank the nomination.

Then we would know for sure that the Administration has authorized torture.

But Mukasey did not condemn it.

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Yo! Mukasey, waterboarding IS torture.

Yo! Iglesias, Mukasey does NOT "get it."

The Senate needs to toss this one back with a note attached to his pasty white arse . . . Saying in big block letters:

TRY AGAIN!

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Please explain why we would accept the word of someone that didn't report criminal activity by a senator and congressperson attempting to affect and or/obstruct justice?
this, a bush appointee, and you think his judgement about another one is somehow acceptable?

I do believe that memories are far more fleeting for some than others. Those incapable of remembering are thus often repeating themselves.

Mr. Iglesias embarrasses himself again pretending to be legitimate. Others mess themselves printing something he says that sounds good. John Dean is clearly sorry for what he did. But he did it, he broke the numerous laws he swore to uphold. Now he does his best to bring that in hiding to be examined in the light.

This nominee has all ready stated he is in favor of war crimes as defined and agreed to by the civilized nations, and he is not in favor of following the constitution of the United States where it involves the legal rights of it's citizens, or those of other countries.

And you can explain why anyone would even consider this kind of human drivel for nomination to the AG? Is this really all we have?

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Though I try and try, I still can't drop-kick a dead cat more than a few feet. Why should I trust any Bush nominee any farther than that? Somebody please explain before I ruin these fine new Redwing work boots.

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...Alberto Gonzales with a brain...

I was kinda open minded about it before the hearings but now, yeah, I don't think Cheney make a mistake nominating him, he's on Team Bush. He's a lot smoother than AG but he's left plenty of wiggle room around all of the important issues. I can't see him issuing an orange jumpsuit to anyone in the administration.

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i tend to agree with linda. Iglesias was good for speaking out, but all them only really did so when it affected their personal reputations. i for one favor leaving appointments open until mature, satisfactory appointments are made. there is no great rush to do Bush's bidding.

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I'm afraid Billy Pilgrim is correct. Yesterday the gloves came off and the poker hand with the ace up the sleeve was revealed.

The Republic is not in danger. It's doomed.

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The fact Mukasey would not give a direct answer as to the legality of the use of "Waterboarding" in interrogations presents a definite result that he will be a "BUSH" supporter and not a defender of law and the Constitution. DO NOT CONFIRM!

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The fact Mukasey would not give a direct answer as to the legality of the use of "Waterboarding" in interrogations presents a definite result that he will be a "BUSH" supporter and not a defender of law and the Constitution. DO NOT CONFIRM!

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The fact Mukasey would not give a direct answer as to the legality of the use of "Waterboarding" in interrogations presents a definite result that he will be a "BUSH" supporter and not a defender of law and the Constitution. DO NOT CONFIRM!

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Judge Mukasey gave a straight and honest answer as to whether "waterboarding" is torture. He doesn't know what's involved in the technique. If it constitutes torture, then it is unconstititonal. The man is a lawyer and former judge, not an expert on what constitutes torture. A good lawyer will tell you when he doesn't know enought to give an opinion. A bad lawyer will give you an opinion without having thought about the issue.

As attorney general, his legal opinions will carry a huge amount of weight. It would be utterly irresponsible for him to speculate on the legality of interrogation techniques until he has fully considered the views of experts and he has studied applicable precedent.

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Mukasey answered the question of torture being unconstitutional the first day of the hearing. The reason he answered Sen. Whitehouse's statement of semantics with "sorry", is because it IS semantic.

If waterboarding is a specific form of torture that needs clarification in the law, then present it as a "defining part of torture" in the law. As of now, Mukasey can only render formal opinion that "torture is unconstitional".

And if you think Mukasey is bad. Take a look at who's been put in charge as the interim AG just a few days ago. Peter D. Keisler. It'll make your feets sweat.

Bush could do very very well if Mukasey doesn't get confirmed.

With Keisler and Bradbury as a team? Unstoppable!

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Mukasey answered the question of torture being unconstitutional the first day of the hearing. The reason he answered Sen. Whitehouse's statement of semantics with "sorry", is because it IS semantic.

If waterboarding is a specific form of torture that needs clarification in the law, then present it as a "defining part of torture" in the law. As of now, Mukasey can only render formal opinion that "torture is unconstitional".

And if you think Mukasey is bad. Take a look at who's been put in charge as the interim AG just a few days ago. Peter D. Keisler. It'll make your feets sweat.

Bush could do very very well if Mukasey doesn't get confirmed.

With Keisler and Bradbury as a team? Unstoppable!

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I'm not sure why it is "semantic."

M. is against "torture." Bush is against "torture." It's like being against being mean to mommy or something. In the real world, you have to be against certain actual activities. Just saying you are against something is too vague. It's circular.

Waterboarding has been an important matter of discussion for some time now. The means used has been discussed too. It's not secret or anything what is basically involved. If he doesn't know what quite a few others have read about, he is somewhat uninformed.

The fired atty suggests he "gets" it on one issue here. The politicization of the Justice Dept. But, that isn't the only problem there. Not by a longshot.

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