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Leahy Asks Again for Torture Docs

Yesterday, the White House finally agreed to turn over those warrantless surveillance documents that Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) has been seeking for so long. Now the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman is pressing for a response to another age-old request: documents relevant to the administration's interrogation policy.

Earlier this week, the White House turned over what Leahy describes as "four previously undisclosed documents" relating to the administration's torture policy. All of them, however, precede Alberto Gonzales' tenure as attorney general. So in a letter to White House counsel Fred Fielding today (reproduced below), Leahy requested documents from that murkier era, including the 2005 and 2006 Office of Legal Counsel opinions reported by The New York Times earlier this month (both opinions were signed by OLC acting chief Steve Bradbury). Leahy's House counterpart Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) has also requested those. Leahy notes in the letter, which is co-signed by the panel's ranking member Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), that they made general requests for this stuff a year ago.

Leahy also presses Fielding to release an unclassified version of a March 13, 2003 memo by John Yoo to William J. Haynes, the Pentagon's general counsel. In his book The Terror Presidency, former OLC chief Jack Goldsmith describes the memo as similar to the infamous "Bybee Memo" (pdf), saying that it contained "abstract and overbroad legal advice" which led to the department adopting specific techniques that "contained elaborate safeguards." Goldsmith later withdrew and replaced that analysis. After years of opposition from Democrats over Haynes' role in approving those techniques, the administration finally withdrew Haynes' nomination to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in January of this year.

The letter:

October 25, 2007

Mr. Fred Fielding, Esq.

Counsel to the President

Office of the Counsel to the President

The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20530

Dear Mr. Fielding:

I appreciate your providing Senator Specter and me several of the documents we have requested relevant to the treatment and interrogation of detainees. The release of these documents restarts the incremental process of providing necessary information to Congress and to the American people about the Administration’s legal justifications and policies with regard to torture and interrogation. I have long called for full disclosure of the Administration’s legal opinions in this area and have been frustrated by continued stonewalling. This release represents a step in the right direction.

This is only a first step, however. I remain deeply troubled by the Administration’s attempts to justify the use of harsh interrogation techniques and even torture, and I intend to get to the bottom of what this Administration’s legal policy has been on this issue, and what it is today. One of the documents you provided this week, per your unclassified cover letter, is a classified March 13, 2003, Memorandum for William J. Haynes, General Counsel, Department of Defense, from John C. Yoo, Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel. This memorandum should also be provided in non-classified form as completely as possible consistent with national security requirements. To the extent possible, this document should become part of a frank and public discussion on these crucial issues.

Further, the Committee does not yet have a complete picture of the Administration’s historic position on the legal basis and standards for detention, transfer, and interrogation in connection with counter-terrorism efforts. It is important that you share with the Senate Judiciary Committee all other legal opinions on these issues from the Office of Legal Counsel and elsewhere in the Department of Justice and the Administration.

Finally, and most importantly, these documents aid our understanding only as to the Administration’s policy until the beginning of Attorney General Gonzales’ tenure in February 2005. You have provided to us some documents demonstrating the Administration’s expansive and disturbing position on torture and related issues in 2002 and 2003, as well as documents from 2004 and very early 2005 withdrawing and minimizing those previous positions. However, we have not yet seen the 2005 memoranda recently reported in the New York Times, which apparently authorize the use by the Central Intelligence Agency of combinations of cruel and extreme interrogation techniques and indicate that enumerated harsh techniques do not constitute cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees. These documents fall squarely within the scope of requests that I and other Senators have made, including my November 15, 2006, request to Attorney General Gonzales for “any and all Department of Justice directives, memoranda, and/or guidance … regarding CIA detention and/or interrogation methods.”

I would ask that you promptly respond to the following questions and document requests, many of which I and others have made on numerous previous occasions:

1. Please produce any and all Department of Justice directives, memoranda, and/or guidance, including any and all attachments to such documents, regarding detention and/or interrogation methods by the Central Intelligence Agency, the military, or any other component of the United States government, including but not limited to the two memoranda identified by the New York Times on October 4, 2007, as well as the August 2002 Memorandum from the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel to the CIA General Counsel regarding CIA interrogation methods (the “2nd Bybee memo”).

2. Please provide a non-classified version of the March 13, 2003, Memorandum for William J. Haynes, General Counsel, Department of Defense, from John C. Yoo, Deputy Assistant Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel, to the extent possible consistent with national security requirements.

3. Please produce any and all documents produced by the Department of Justice regarding the legality of specific interrogation tactics, and the legal basis for detention and transfer of terrorism suspects, and the applicability of federal criminal prohibitions on torture and abuse.

4. Please produce any and all Department of Justice documents that interpret, or advise on, the scope of interrogation practices permitted and prohibited by the Detainee Treatment Act or the Military Commissions Act.

5. Please state which of the documents produced in accordance with the above requests remain in effect and which have been withdrawn, replaced or modified. Please produce any and all revisions or modifications.

6. Please produce an index of any and all documents relating to investigations and/or reviews conducted by the Department of Justice into detainee abuse by U.S. military or civilian personnel in Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib prison, or elsewhere.

I look forward to your responses.

Sincerely,

PATRICK LEAHY

Chairman


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Pre-Gonzales documents? What kind of joke is this supposed to be?

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EH wrote on October 26, 2007 11:43 AM:
Pre-Gonzales documents? What kind of joke is this supposed to be?
It's called appearing to "co-operate" without actually doing so.

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I wonder if these four documents will find their way into public hands...

It would be beneficial for the public to get ALL the information possible from our dictator in order to make rational decisions.

Of course, documents is a broad term... and Bush so far has let "We the People" know that even laws passed by Congress and signed by him have no revelence. He is able to disobey any and all laws with his signing statements.

Perhaps other future dictators could also use this ploy to negate any possible dissention from the populance...

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The gravest future threat to America is the justfied hatred of the foreign nationals who have been victimized by the Administration's illegal detention and interrogation policies. Those crimes by this Administration will haunt the nation long after the perpertrators have turned to dust.

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At this point, instead of politely requesting documentation, why couldn't they just subpoena the stuff right from the start?

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I wonder if Bush and Cheny and Gonzo would be able to recall anything if they were placed on a 'waterboard'?

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Yes indeed BillyP. It will hang like a milstone around our neck for decades. The damage that Bush and his yesmen have done to human rights and democracy is staggering and will take years to undo, if that's even possible.

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....but, but, but, "All of them, however, precede Alberto Gonzales"

Oh my, you mean Gonzales was NOT the problem, that it was, dare say, Cheney?

What ever will PBS Frontline say about Cheney's law, or was it a complete lack of law?

Something happened to PBS Frontline, they got Bushified by the powers that be, that hostial entity that took over PBS, or something, maybe they fired all the decent journalist, whatever.

But whatever it was, it's a shit program now.

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You do good work at this website; but, I am not going to waste any more time reading about what the Dems may do. Let me know if they actually take some serious action and get results.

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Why no mention of Mukasey? Wouldn't Leahy want this info before confirming Mukasey?Based on Mukasey's statements wouldn't he want this information before he is confirmed?

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Why no mention of Mukasey? Wouldn't Leahy want this info before confirming Mukasey?Based on Mukasey's statements wouldn't he want this information before he is confirmed?

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Why no mention of Mukasey? Wouldn't Leahy want this info before confirming Mukasey?Based on Mukasey's statements wouldn't he want this information before he is confirmed?

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After all of these torture related documents are provided, what then? The administration will say that it relied on the advice of its counselors.The counselors will say they interpreted the laws as best as possible.

Then what?

Who, if anyone, will be held accountable for the torture? Only the people who carried it out?

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Perhaps the GOP should seize the moment as it were?

We, the representatives of conservative people (as opposed to the Cheney’s law, or is it the lack thereof, or Bushish as we know it,) have been duly flim-flamed by Cheneyism.

We (the GOP) had NO IDEA he was such a crooked, two-timing, shoot someone in face drunk. If only the GOP had know before now what exactly Cheney was up too?

The writing is on the wall, and the GOP can ignore it, or they cry out in unison, “oh my gosh, you mean Bush was gay all this time?” whatever it takes – but do it BEFORE Julie becomes the utter embarrassment of the GOP – I mean, why does conservatism begin and end with what Dick thinks?

I think it's not wise.

"Dick Cheney “We didn't get elected to worry just about the fate of the Republican Party.”

The proper responces is "why did you get elected than CHENEY?"

Maybe the guy doesn't have the GOP's best interest at heart, you think?

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Maybe one of those "little guy" torturers will Blow the Whistle.

Let's just keep all of this alive. Keep asking and asking. Put together whatever we know and what we suspect.

I agree with Davis13, it may be impossible or decades to undo what they've done. But honestly, we have to try and keep trying.

The Constitution shows us the way. And that's the one thing we have to keep coming back to. That's our only hope. That and public servants who truly put the constitution and their oath of office before anything else.

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EH wrote on October 26, 2007 11:43 AM:

Pre-Gonzales documents? What kind of joke is this supposed to be?

Yes, I think we can bookmark that one under 'Phantoms of lost liberities' being a "pre"-date of Gonzales and all.

Ashcroft was not a student of strict constructionism, not a conservative, not a Federalist Society member but a Cheney bootlick all the way kind of guy.

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Well said Bonnie.

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I think Leahy should write another sternly worded letter. That'll do it for sure.

Seriously, sometimes I think the Dems are fully complicit in the crimes of this administration. I think they know full well what's going on and approve of it. They should be prosecuted as accessories to torture.

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The Kabuki continues. Let's see, how long have they been sending letters to Fielding? Now he has (again) dribbled out just enough so that Leahy will take another turn on the letter-writing dance floor. Enough already. Fielding is the master of this, but Leahy has been around long enough to know the score. I agree with noen above. The Dems appear more complicit all the time.

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bwindrip wrote on October 26, 2007 11:56 AM:
At this point, instead of politely requesting documentation, why couldn't they just subpoena the stuff right from the start?

It's called "legal process" -- Congress investigates in accordance with the law. What you demand is that the Democrats act like Republicans -- even though you hate the Republicans for how they act.

Make up your mind: learn to reason, or continue to be an ass.

As for Leahy's letter: "Torture" is a term defined in and prohibited by law -- and cannot be made legal. Leahy clearly and repeatedly uses that word, without equivocation or qualification. Those who pay attention to language, and law, know the import of that. All the rest take it out in yammering out horseshit, drunk on the smell of someone else's cork, and bashing the Democrats as if there weren't any Republicans in the room also having a say.


The Democrats are not "complicit": there is an election next year which promises to decimate the Republicans. One way of ensuring that is to have the scandals ripen at the right time.

In addition to which, the Democrats are operating in accordance with law -- to which you obviously object.

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Here is why torture, near torture, and their rationalization must be torn from the fabric of this government

When I was a little kid, you couldn't avoid hearing talk about World War II, since it was only about ten years past. Hitler and his crew, of course, were seen as complete monsters for the death camps, of course, and with regard to starting the war the way they did. But the German military, on the other hand, in its treatment of Allied prisoners, while not exactly described as beneficent, were at least tolerable. The real fiends when it came to the treatment of prisoners were the Japanese. You heard awful stories and rumors.

These attitudes were carried into the popular culture. In the movies and on TV, the German officers and soldiers did what they were told, but as they were portrayed, you could tell that a lot of them didn't like it. The Japanese, on the other hand, were portrayed as horrible ghouls, torturing and brutalizing Americans in large and small ways -- and enjoying it.

I can see that in the eyes of the little kids of a lot of parts of the world today, WE are now those ghouls. Even in our OWN popular culture, we are those ghouls! (24, Rendition, etc.) What has happened to us?

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Is this classic bait and switch or am I missing something?
I thought Leahy and Specter were supposed to be reviewing documents related to wiretapping. How comes the outcome of such a revuew becomes a discussion on torture memos and nothing on wiretapping. It may be age but seems someone got punked.

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Those Leahy letters. What style! What punch! So effective!

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Abuses first occurred in 2001. Senate in 2007 says "Please tell us what happened."

Do the math: Only 6 year time lag. At this rate. . .

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Some of these same members of the Senate Judiciary Committee allowed Jay Bybee to be confirmed as a federal judge shortly after he crafted the infamous "Bybee memoranda", even when they KNEW the memos advocated torture. Yoo, Bybee, and the OLC were deeply and openly involved in formulating administration policy YEARS ago. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

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