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Johnson: I Issued Hasty Denial to Counter Staff Leaks

After more than two years of review and delay, the EPA finally shot down California's attempt to crack down on greenhouse gases with a state law. And when EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson finally issued that decree, it was not accompanied by the usual bulk of agency legal and technical analysis. Rather, it came in the form of a press release on December 19th, which just happened to be the same day that the President signed the new energy bill.

In case the connection was lost on anyone, the EPA's press release proclaimed the decision to deny California's waiver with the title, "America Receives a National Solution for Vehicle Greenhouse Gas Emissions." Johnson was quoted as saying "The Bush Administration is moving forward with a clear national solution – not a confusing patchwork of state rules – to reduce America’s climate footprint from vehicles." We've posted the press release in full below.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) wanted to know if just maybe there was a connection. Johnson, of course, did not oblige with a direct answer. And as the questioning proceeded, Sanders' patience thinned and his voice raised:

Oddly enough, Johnson's first explanation for the timing indicated a coup to curb a staff revolt. EPA internal documents had been leaked to the press, he said, and they were misrepresenting "what actually was true." So he made the judgment call to announce the decision rather than "having inaccurate information" out there.

Two observations on this.

First, the answer indicated that the timing was, in fact, a coincidence. Second, Johnson is likely referring here to the documents leaked to The Washington Post that showed that "the unanimous recommendation of the agency's legal and technical staffs" was to approve California's waiver (see notes on those documents here). So he seems to be saying that he didn't want these documents leaking before he was able to make his decision.So he rushed to release his decision.

But Johnson just would not admit that he'd rolled out the EPA's decision in conjunction with the White House's bill signing. No, no, no. But it wasn't clear what he was admitting, since he is so adept at digressing into minute discussions of statutes and agency process.

Sen. Sanders, who began the hearing already fed up with Johnson, wasn't going to hear it. And by the end of his five minutes of questioning, Johnson did seem to have tacitly admitted that there was a connection. But not before an exasperated Sanders reminded him once that he was, in fact, under oath and shouted at him "You keep saying 'As I said,' but you didn't say!"

The press release:

America Receives a National Solution for Vehicle Greenhouse Gas Emissions

(Washington, D.C. – December 19, 2007) The Bush Administration is moving forward with a national solution to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from American vehicles. The new energy legislation passed by Congress and signed by President Bush this week provides a federal fuel economy standard that offers environmental benefits, energy security and economic certainty for the nation.

"The Bush Administration is moving forward with a clear national solution – not a confusing patchwork of state rules – to reduce America’s climate footprint from vehicles," said U.S. EPA Administrator Stephen L. Johnson. "President Bush and Congress have set the bar high, and, when fully implemented, our federal fuel economy standard will achieve significant benefits by applying to all 50 states.”

EPA has determined that a unified federal standard of 35 miles per gallon will deliver significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions from cars and trucks in all 50 states, which would be more effective than a partial state-by-state approach of 33.8 miles per gallon.

California’s current waiver request is distinct from all prior requests. Previous waiver petitions covered pollutants that predominantly impacted local and regional air quality. Greenhouse gases are fundamentally global in nature, which is unlike the other air pollutants covered by prior California waiver requests. These gases contribute to the challenge of global climate change affecting every state in the union. Therefore, according to the criteria in section 209 of the Clean Air Act, EPA did not find that separate California standards are needed to “meet compelling and extraordinary conditions.”

The Clean Air Act requires EPA to follow a process when determining waiver requests. EPA must provide a public comment and hearing opportunity. The statute also provides three very specific criteria that EPA should evaluate for any California waiver petition.

EPA held two hearings on the waiver request and the comment period began April 30 and closed June 15. The administrator and EPA staff reviewed the more than 100,000 written comments and thousands of pages of technical and scientific documentation received during the public comment period. The comments represented a wide scope of interests including those of states and localities, public health and environmental groups, academia, industry and private citizens.

The two primary approaches for reducing greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles are increasing the fuel economy of vehicles and reducing the greenhouse gas emissions associated with their fuel. The recently signed energy bill addresses both approaches by increasing the fuel economy from vehicles to 35 miles per gallon, an increase of forty percent, as well as increasing the amount of renewable fuel used to 36 billion gallons, nearly a five-fold increase.

Update: Here's the transcript:

SEN. SANDERS: Was it just a coincidence therefore that you announced your decision regarding the California waiver at a press event at 6:30 P.M. on December 19, on the evening that President Bush signed the energy bill? It seems like a strange time to be making that announcement.

MR. JOHNSON: Well, I'd be pleased to explain again. The way the agency process works is briefings and then ultimately I make a decision, I turn to the staff and direct them to write the decision document. I turned to the staff, directed them to --

SEN. SANDERS: Was it a coincidence that you happened to make a decision at 6:30 P.M. right after the president signed the energy bill? It seems to be rather strange timing.

MR. JOHNSON: Well, let me explain why. That late afternoon -- and I don't recall what time -- but my press office started receiving phone calls from major newspapers saying that papers had been leaked, and that, at least in their view, that it was misrepresenting what actually was true. And they came to me and I made a judgement call that rather than having inaccurate information, that I would announce the decision. So while that was not my preferred course -- I had a more orderly course of action that I had planned to take of announcement -- I felt compelled that the American people owed what was the truth.

SEN. SANDERS: Just a coincidence that all that happened to occur on the same day that the president signs the energy bill?

MR. JOHNSON: Well, again, I wasn't the person who leaked the information --

SEN. SANDERS: No, no, no, no. Please. Sir, I am asking you a question. The average American would find it rather strange that the head of a major agency at 6:30 P.M. on the evening that the president signs an energy bill -- and you are under oath -- would make this announcement in a press release, rather than as a substantive legal argument on such an important issue.

MR. JOHNSON: Again, I acknowledge that this situation was unique. It was unique in that I --

SEN. SANDERS: And you're saying that it's a coincidence?

MR. JOHNSON: What I said was it's a unique situation. I explained what the situation is. I'd be happy to, in greater detail for the record, if you'd like. And, again, my commitment to the governor, members of this committee, was that I would make a decision by the end of the year. I, as I've already testified, while I was deliberating --

SEN. SANDERS: Mr. Johnson, would you -- could you understand that the American people might be somewhat dubious about your explanation, that just on that particular evening at a press conference on such a lengthy issue, where the governor of California and the American people, it seems to me, are entitled to a lengthy, technical, legal argument as to why that waiver is rejected, 6:30 P.M. press release on the same day the president signs the energy bill?

MR. JOHNSON: Again, I'd be happy to, for the record, explain the circumstances that had happened. I said that the rollout or the release of my decision was unique, but given the circumstances, I felt it was the best decision.

SEN. SANDERS: And the circumstances had nothing to do with the fact that the president was signing the energy bill on that day?

MR. JOHNSON: As I said, I've already described the circumstances. We'll be happy to --

SEN. SANDERS: But you didn't answer my question. Did your release that day have nothing to do with the fact that a few hours before the president signed the energy bill? Nothing to do with it?

MR. JOHNSON: Well, as I said --

SEN. SANDERS: You didn't say, sir. You keep saying, as you said. You didn't say. I'm asking you a simple question. Was it related, was it not?

MR. JOHNSON: Well, as I tried to say that I was aware that Congress was debating this issue whether to change the Clean Air Act. I wasn't sure whether Congress would or would not.

SEN. SANDERS: Madame Chair, I have to tell you --

MR. JOHNSON: I wasn't sure if the president would sign or would not sign, and so I wanted to have --

SEN. SANDERS: You were doubtful whether the president would sign it? Everybody in America knew that he would sign it. And you're the head of the EPA, you were doubtful?

MR. JOHNSON: I wanted to have the advantage of making sure the president had indeed signed the legislation.

SEN. SANDERS: Thank you.


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Just going on the sound of Johnson's voice, I'd guess that he was (nudge nudge) "active in the College Republicans."

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Isn't there hay to be made from this (and the Administration's defiance of the Supreme Court's mandate in MA v. EPA; and its general obstructionism and mendacity on climate change) for the first Democratic candidate to highlight it? Particularly in CA. All three candidates have the right positions, at least in the big picture, but none are out front on it. Obama at least cites it as one of the major priorities for the next administration, but none are going nearly far enough. Particularly if Romney is the nominee, the Democratic nominee will face charges that his or her climate plan will break the bank (it won't), so they might as well get out front and get out in front on the affirmative case for at least trying to save the planet.

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Can someone please correct the Senate jinx list? It should include Feingold for a total of 17, no?

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Just an observation, but he said that his press office had received calls from major Newspaper that papers had been leaked with inaccurate information and rather than having inaccurate information he acted to hold the press conference

My question is this, does his press office have to keep records for these call he received? I so, would it tell us who or what agency placed the call?

Because it sounded as if he said that they had received leaked information and were notifying him becuase they believed "in their view" it was inaccurate! Maybe this is just normal press procedure, but why would they know it was inaccurate?

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the confidence man-

That and the reptilian eyes and flicking forked tongue.

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I always have one thought when watching loyal Bushies on the stand, talking without saying anything.

I know it's getting a bit personal ( and gender-centric), but my gut reaction always is: a Man is able to answer questions. A Man makes sure that his every action and choice doesn't violate his integrity, and therefore there are no questions he shouldn't be able to answer.

That's what I couldn't fathom about Gonzales. Here's a man who has risen to the station of Attorney General - no mean feat - and he's just a weak person. He didn't value his own integrity enough to just answer questions. How do people attain the highest levels in the land and have no character or self respect to fall back on?

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BBpd - one word, "cronyism"

Maybe Al Gonzalez is a very bright attorney, but has known for a long-time the only way to reach the top is to bite your-tongue and network as much as possible with those that are in power. Lawyers are taught to argue both sides, but to be the best you have to be with those that can make you the best. I do not excuse his actions, in fact my father is friends with Al and I have told him numerous times how much I disapprove of his actions and how he is failure to Americans and Hispanic Americans across the nation. Even my dad thinks he trusted the wrong people.
Really at this point I just try to talk to as many people as I can about how they are coping in these hard times and focus on what brings us together.

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Integrity? The liars' database with 935 entries says it all about the intregrity of any of these administration midgets. The world understands that when lying is the norm then anything said by them is suspect, with a high chance of being just another entry into the liars' database.

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Perjurer.

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Josh-Quasimoto:

Good points. It's just depressing to realize that in our country it's very difficult for the truly best people to reach (public sector) leadership positions. We get Brownie and this Johnson guy instead.

And it just makes me upset to see grown "men" with a bright spotlight on them refusing to be Men. I'd hate to Gonzales' son, that's for sure.

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"As I said ..."

"Again ..."

"I've said ..."

Very clever. He gives the impression that he's already answered the question being asked. He's being put-upon, made to keep going over the same material. He's being picked on by the big, mean Senator.

What surprised me was why Sanders didn't turn the same thing back on him: "Again I ask, was it a coincidence ...?"

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Confidence Man: Don't you mean that College Republicans were active in him?

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Utopia

Good point. He basically played the bureaucrat staying on talking points, much like veteran pols do with the press. Five- six points(well vetted), say nothing else. So no matter what the question or direction, he referred to the same talking parts.
He's a clever little beast, served his master nicely.

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I could use a lot of pretty words to get to my point, but instead, I'll use but two to get to the heart of it: Tenth Amendment. Granted, both the GOP and the Democratic Party ignore this amendment at will for their own (often nefarious in effect if not always in intent) purposes, but if there were ever a cause for a Constitutional challenge to an edict by a federal agency, it is these few words at the end of the Bill of Rights: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." That's all. It's that simple. If the people of California don't like a decision by one of their state agencies, they have the right to choose other people to represent them in their state legislature, respective commissioners, and Governor's Mansion. In this case, I feel the proposed California emissions standards were an excellent step in the right direction, and I was disappointed, though not surprised, with this decision. Frankly, I feel a lot more comfortable with decisions taken at the state and local levels than I will ever be with decisions at the federal level, as they are made closer to the people who will be affected by said decisions.

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HMMMMMMMMM and Quasimoto:

The Hmmmmms have it. And that's what I find myself thinking every time one of them smirks his puffy, catty way through a hearing. Notice how they repeat themselves? Notice how they seem to be reading the repetitive phrases? Watch again.

Remember, we've already seen the email memo - Kyle Sampson ring a bell?: agree, then stall, evade, promise, delay. Remember?

As to that manliness business: Hmmm has it nailed. Johnson is of the smirking Rovemorph variety of thug - the closet poofter type - like Kyle, and McClellan, and so so many others.

Mukasey is of the other thug type - the nosferatu-morph, the Chertoff type.


I'd like to see them called on this evasion tactic, and cited for contempt.

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moondancer, and he hardly had to use the "I don't recall" ploy. I'd say there's a promotion in store for Mr. Johnson.

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Isn't Sanders an Independent?

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Bush has made sure to appoint the exact opposite of what is needed: lobbyists to regulate the businesses they used to lobby for, etc. Gonzales was just like the mob's attorney, trying to keep all the criminal acts out of the light, and with no internal integrity.

In fact, integrity has little to do with any of the Bush Administration people. Shame, public humiliation, etc, have no effect on people who have no conscience. Outright lying, and getting caught, is no cause for any repercussions at all.

In this case, the EPA experts recommended one thing, and Bush's man is just there to do what Bush wants. The EPA experts might as well go home until Bush is out of office.

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Right at the end there doesn't he admit to the fact that he "wanted to have the advantage of making sure the president had indeed signed the legislation."?

And doesn't that undercut his absurd suggestion that that the timing between the signing of the energy bill and the release of the decision was merely coincidental?

He lies about there being direct coordination with, or orders from the white house, but he does at the very least demonstrate that the bill signing was a factor in his decision to release the EPA decision when he did.

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sanders' question was obliquely phrased unfortunately. he should have directed johnson to testify how he coordinated the release of the press release with the white house. johnson would have had to at least answer that he waited until the signing to ensure it would be consistent with the white house's intentions, but since he probably would not have even admitted that (because it is doubtless a minor detail in the overall decision to manage the press release by johnson working hand-in-glove with white house staff, communicating over their blackberrys on the RNC VPN email net). i suppose it would be a good followup question to push the inquiry farther, if that opportunity still exists.

just get blunt with them. i wish they would impeach somebody and flay them publicly before shrub's time expires.

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Sanders ran as a democratic socialist-independent, not as a Democrat. The first, I believe, in the US Senate.

Johnson issued a press release at the same day that the President's signed the energy bill. He didn't release a well-drawn out statement explaining his reasoning, as Bernie pointed out twice, which one would think he could have done, if for no other reason, out of respect to the people of California.

Sanders was direct and clear. He used the word, “coincidence” at least 4 times. He also said, on the same day that the President signed the energy bill, 6 times – all in a matter of 5 minutes. He was very clear.

Johnson merely could not answer. He had to go into extensive verbiage about the process of his release, not to why it was released on the same day as the President’s signing of the energy bill. What Johnson should have stressed was the time of his discovery of the leak and his haste in releasing the press release to avoid misunderstanding. But, he didn’t, perhaps because he is under oath? Instead, he insisted on going into the EPA process, which is avoiding the clear questioning.

After Bernie said, you keep saying, you said … . Johnson immediately replied with a smile saying, “… tried to say. …” as if he made a small coup, a point. It appears Johnson feels the questioning and answering is a sort of contest, a game of rhetoric, not a quest after the truth.

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Watching this made my skin crawl - Johnson was promoted from within the EPA - he was a mediocre federal worker, probably never took a stand his superiors didn't favor, never had an original thought...perfect as a Bush stooge.

He has a well developed sense of self, I'm sure he's convinced himself that he's top dog because - HE IS!!! I work with so many of these self important, arrogant asses that get promoted up the Good Old Boy management chain in the Federal Government it's shameful...

And these are the idiots that want to abolish all the Civil Service Protections and institute "Performance Pay" - so people like Johnson can punish the staff that don't fall in line and are "team players"

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