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Clemens Makes Bid for Golden Duke Award
It's a nightmare scenario for a witness. When Roger Clemens went to testify this morning before the House oversight committee, lawmakers, armed with testimony from two other witnesses, tried to spring what they could on him to catch him in a lie.
Sitting at the same table -- on the other side of an investigator on the Mitchell Report on steroids in baseball -- was Brian McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, who has said under oath and said again today that he injected Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone (HGH) a number of times.
And in the first round of questions, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) came at Clemens with a second line of attack: Clemens' friend and former teammate Andy Pettite had told the committee under oath that he'd had a couple conversations with Clemens and one key conversation in particular where Clemens had told him that he'd taken HGH. Ouch. You can see video here:
Clemens denies it all. He's already called McNamee a liar and launched a lawsuit against him. As for Pettite, Clemens said that he must be "misremembering," and said that the conversation was really about "a TV show, something that I've heard about three older men that were using HGH and getting back their quality of life from that." Cummings kept producing more details from Pettite's testimony and Clemens kept claiming that Pettite had misremembered. The denials culminated in this memorably tangled answer:
"Once again, Mr. Congressman, I think he misremembers the conversation that we had. Andy and I's relationship was close enough to know that if I would have known that he had done HGH, which I now know, if he was knowingly knowing that I had taken HGH, we would have talked about the subject. He'd have come to me to ask me about the effects of it."
So should Clemens be up for Best Testimonial Trainwreck in 2008?
A transcript of the exchange is below.
CUMMINGS: I'm going to ask you a few questions, Mr. Clemens. And I first want to make sure that you're very clear: You understand that you're under oath, is that correct?CLEMENS: That's correct, Mr. Cummings.
CUMMINGS: And you know what that means. Is that correct?
CLEMENS: That's correct.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
First of all, Mr. Pettitte, Andy Pettitte, is one of the most respected players in the major league. And commentator after commentator has said that he is one of the most honest people in baseball.
Would you agree with that?CLEMENS: I would agree with that, yes, sir.
CUMMINGS: Keep your voice up.
CLEMENS: I would agree with that, yes, sir.
CUMMINGS: In fact, this is what your own lawyer, Rusty Hardin, said about Mr. Pettitte in the New York Times, and I quote: "We have nothing to fear about what Andy may testify to. Everyone says that Andy is honest. We have no reason to believe he will lie."
Would you agree with that statement your lawyer made?CLEMENS: I would agree with that, yes.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
Now Mr. Clemens, I want to ask you just one thing. In his deposition, Mr. Pettitte told the committee that he had a conversation with you in 1999 or 2000 in which you admitted that you used human growth hormones. Is this true?
CLEMENS: It is not.
CUMMINGS: So you did not tell Mr. Pettitte that you used human growth hormone?
CLEMENS: I did not.
CUMMINGS: And -- but at the same time, you just said that he's a very honest fellow. Is that right?
CLEMENS: I believe Andy to be a very honest fellow, yes.
CUMMINGS: Very well. Let's continue. In his deposition, Mr. Pettitte was honest and forthcoming with the committee. He told us things that were embarrassing, that we had no way of knowing, except through his own testimony.
First, he confirmed that Mr. McNamee injected him with HGH in 2002, which is in the Mitchell report. You understand that, right?
CLEMENS: I do.
CUMMINGS: Then he told us that he injected himself again in 2004. We did not know about the 2004 injection, but he volunteered that information because he wanted the committee to know the entire truth.
It was hard for Mr. Pettitte to tell the committee about the 2004 injections. The circumstances, which he described in length, were exceptionally personal and embarrassing.But it was even harder for him to talk about you, Mr. Clemens. He's friends with both you and Mr. McNamee, and he felt caught in the middle.
During his deposition, he was asked how he would resolve the conflict between two friends. Here is what he said, and I quote. "I have to tell you all the truth. And one day, I have to give an account to God, and not to nobody else, of what I've done in my life. And that's why I've said and shared the stuff with you all that I would not like to share with you all," end of quote.
Now, Mr. Clemens, I'm reminding you that you are under oath. Mr. Clemens, do you think Mr. Pettitte was lying when he told the committee that you admitted using human growth hormones?
CLEMENS: Mr. Congressman, Andy Pettitte is my friend. He will be my -- he was my friend before this. He will be my friend after this. And, again, I think Andy has misheard.
CUMMINGS: I'm sorry. I didn't hear you.
CLEMENS: I believe Andy has misheard, Mr. Congressman, on his comments about myself using HGH, which never happened.
The conversation that I can recall that I had with Andy Pettitte was at my house in Houston, while we were working out, and I expressed to him about a TV show, something that I've heard about three older men that were using HGH and getting back their quality of life from that. Those are the conversations that I can remember.
Andy and I's friendship and closeness was such that, first of all, when I learned, when he was -- when he said that he used HGH, I was shocked. I had no idea.
When I just heard your statement and Andy's statement about that he also injected himself, I was shocked. I had no idea that Andy Pettitte had used HGH.
My problem with what Andy says, and why I think he misremembers is that if Andy Pettitte knew that I had used HGH or I had told Andy Pettitte that I had used HGH before he would use the HGH, what have you, he would have come to me and asked me about it. That's how close our relationship was.
And then, when he did use it, I'm sure he would have told me that he used it. And I say that for the fact that we also used a product called Hydroxycut and ThermaCore. It had ephedra in it, from what I understand to be a natural tree root. I believe ephedra was banned at some -- 2004, something of that nature. A player in Baltimore passed away because of it.
Andy and I talked openly about this product, and so there's no question in my mind that we would have talked -- if he knew that I had tried or done HGH, which I did not, he would have come to me to ask me those questions.
CUMMINGS: Well, let's continue. In the deposition, we wanted to make absolutely sure, because we knew the significance of this, that Mr. Pettitte had a clear recollection.
CUMMINGS: And let me read another excerpt from the deposition. And this was a question to Mr. Pettitte.
"'You recollect a conversation with Mr. Clemens. Your recollection is that he said he was taking human growth hormone.' Answer, 'Yes.'
'And you have no doubt about that recollection?' 'I mean, no, he told me that.'"
Now, Mr. Clemens, you know Mr. Pettitte well. You just, again, described your relationship. You described him as a close friend in your deposition.
Would he tell the Congress that one of his close friends was taking an illegal performance-enhancing drug if there were any doubt in his mind about the truth of what he was saying?
CLEMENS: Mr. Congressman, once again, I believe in my -- I'm sorry?
CUMMINGS: I just want you to just go ahead and answer that. Do you think he would do that?
CLEMENS: I think he misremembers of our conversation.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
CLEMENS: And let me add in 2006 -- in 2006, he and I had a conversation in Atlanta's locker room when this L.A. Times report became public about a Grimsley report. And they said that Andy's and my name were listed in that.
And I remember him coming into that room, the coaches' room, the main office there of the clubhouse attendant, and sitting down in front of me, wringing his hands and looking at me like he saw a ghost.
And he looked right at me and said, "What are you going to tell them?"And I told him that I'm going out here, I'm going to tell them the truth -- I did none of this. I never worked out with Jason Grimsley. He was a teammate of mine and I never worked out with him, and I'm going to go out here and tell them the truth.
That alone should have confirmed Andy's misunderstanding that I've ever told him that I used HGH.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
Let's continue because I want to make sure that I get through some very key points.
CLEMENS: Sure.
CUMMINGS: Mr. Clemens, you have been very critical of Mr. McNamee's motives. You just did it a few minutes ago. What possible motive would Mr. Pettitte have to fabricate a story about you, his friend?
CLEMENS: Andy would have no reason to.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
This was so important, we went back to Mr. Pettitte a third time -- a third time. We asked him to submit an affidavit to the committee. This gave him a chance to express his recollection clearly without the pressures of a deposition.
I want to read to you what he wrote. It says, "In 1999 or 2000, I had a conversation with Roger Clemens in which Roger told me that he had taken human growth hormones. This conversation occurred at his gym in Memorial, Texas. He did not tell me where he got the HGH, or from whom, but he did tell me that it helped the body recover."
It is not just Mr. Pettitte who recollects this conversation. During his deposition, Mr. Pettitte told us that he tells his wife everything. So, we asked his wife to give us an affidavit about what she knew. And understand, this is under oath.
Let me read to you what his wife said in her affidavit: "I, Laura Pettitte, do depose and state in 1999 or 2000, Andy told me he had had a conversation with Roger Clemens in which Roger admitted to him using human growth hormones."
CUMMINGS: Mr. Clemens, once again, I remind you you're under oath.
You have said your conversation with Mr. Pettitte never happened. If that was true, why would Laura Pettitte remember Andy telling her about the conversation?CLEMENS: Once again, Mr. Congressman, I think he misremembers the conversation that we had. Andy and I's relationship was close enough to know that if I would have known that he had done HGH, which I now know, if he was knowingly knowing that I had taken HGH, we would have talked about the subject. He'd have come to me to ask me about the effects of it.
CUMMINGS: Well, the fact is, Mr. Clemens, that apparently now you know he knew it and he didn't know it. Has your mind changed about his credibility?
CLEMENS: Andy's a fine gentleman. I have no reason -- again...
CUMMINGS: Very well.
CLEMENS: ... I think he misremembers.
CUMMINGS: Very well.
CLEMENS: Again, our relationship was close enough that if I knew that -- if he knew that I had tried HGH, which I hadn't, he would have come to me and talked to me and discussed the subject.
CUMMINGS: I understand.
The 1999 or 2000 conversation was not the only conversation that Mr. Pettitte remembers having with you about HGH. He also remembers a second conversation very clearly. This conversation took place in 2005. Let me read to you what he wrote about this conversation in his affidavit.
And I quote, "In 2005, around the time of the congressional hearings into the use of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, I had a conversation with Roger Clemens in Kissimmee, Florida. I asked him what he would say if asked by reporters if he had ever used performance-enhancing drugs. When he asked what I meant, I reminded him that he had told me that he had used HGH.
"Roger responded by telling me that I must have misunderstood him. He claimed that it was his wife, Debbie, who used HGH. And I said, 'OK,' or words to that effect, not because I agreed with him, but because I wasn't going to argue with him."
This conversation happened just three years ago, and it is the kind of conversation that most people would remember. It is hard for me to imagine that Mr. Pettitte made up this conversation. Did you have a conversation with him to this effect?
CLEMENS: I don't believe I had a conversation in 2005 with him in Kissimmee, Florida. We would have been with the Houston Astros at the time. But I don't remember that conversation whatsoever.
CUMMINGS: Are you saying that you don't remember it, or you're telling us that you didn't have it? Do you know?
CUMMINGS: And the reason why I'm asking you that is because we're dealing with some serious matters here, and I want to give you...
CLEMENS: Sure.
CUMMINGS: You wanted a fair chance to address this committee, and I'm just wondering -- are you telling us under oath that it didn't happen, or you're saying you just don't remember?
CLEMENS: I don't remember that.
And again, I'll address the -- any conversation about my wife, Debbie, using HGH.
I know that, at one point, she read a USA Today article about that. I don't know the year. It sure could have been 2005 when this article came about, and they just -- you know, it was just general talk...CUMMINGS: All right.
CLEMENS: ... about HGH.
CUMMINGS: Let me go on.
Laura Pettitte also has a clear recollection of being told about this conversation by her husband.
Let me read what she wrote. "A few years later -- I believe in 2005 -- Andy again told me of a conversation with Roger Clemens about HGH. Andy told me that he had been thinking that if a reporter asked him, he would tell the reporter of his own use of HGH in 2002. He said that he told Roger Clemens this and asked Roger what he would say if asked. Andy told me that in the 2005 conversation, Roger denied using HGH and told Andy that Andy was mistaken about their earlier conversation. According to Andy, Roger said that it was his wife, Debbie, who used HGH."Now, the timeline is very important here. According to Mr. Pettitte's -- Pettitte, his first conversation with you, Mr. Clemens, occurred in 1999 or 2000.
But you told us that your wife did not use HGH until 2003. That makes it impossible that you could have been referring to your wife's use of HGH in the first conversation.
CUMMINGS: These aren't the only relevant conversations that Mr. Pettitte told us about. He told us that after his first conversation with you, Mr. Clemens, he spoke with Mr. McNamee.
Let me read what you -- let me read to you, again, that affidavit, and I quote: "Shortly after my conversation with Roger, I spoke with Brian McNamee. Only he and I were parties to the conversation. I asked Roger about HGH and told him that Roger said he had used it. Brian McNamee became angry. He told me that Roger should not have told me about his use of HGH because it was supposed to be confidential."
Mr. McNamee, do you remember that conversation?
MCNAMEE: Yes, sir.
CUMMINGS: Did it happen?
MCNAMEE: Yes, sir.
WAXMAN: Mr. Cummings, your time has expired.





Comments (41)
CLEMENS: Mr. Congressman, Andy Pettitte is my friend. He will be my -- he was my friend before this. He will be my friend after this.
Whoa! Is Roger Clemens cribbing from Obama here?
February 13, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
When the Omentum's in full force, you gotta grab a piece of that action!
February 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
So the logical inference is that Pettite is misremembering his own (pettite's) use of HGH because if Pettite had in fact used HGH he would have asked Clemens about it first (since he apparently thought Clemen's was using it)?
February 13, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, neither guy is coming out of this smelling like a rose. McNamee was nailed by one of the Congress critters for lying as well.
February 13, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what does this have to do with the congress of the United States? Do you get deported if you are caught using HGH? Don't they have any other pressing matters to dabble in? Is Roger Clemmons a communist? I say leave the man alone, if MLB wants to investigate I could understand. This is a total waste of taxpayer money.
February 13, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This could be good news for Pettite--maybe he also did not inject himself with HGH he got from Roger's trainer, but rather he just watched some tv show about some old guys taking HGH!
February 13, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dusty, agreed both have their issues here but it seems to me that McNamee was lying by omission (left things out he later added) vs some of the implausible comments by Clemens. Also, seems to me that "panel" has (at least some of them) already taken sides vs trying to "get at the truth".
February 13, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, considering that Roger did a week-long visit of all the Congress critters, doing everything but kissing babies from what I have read, its not hard to speculate why some of them have taken sides.
I also agree that this is a huge waste of our tax dollars, not to mention a waste of their time with other more pressing issues to investigate.
February 13, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I always suspected that Clemens was a Republican.
February 13, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Suspected he was a Repub? I would of bet on it. ;p
February 13, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
As someone who doesn't give a fat rat's ass about professional sports, I can't believe all the attention this is getting. While I applaud Congress for taking on the real, hard issues that America faces in these troubled times (exposing steroid abuse and banning incandescent lightbulbs will undoubtedly weigh heavily on voters' minds during the upcoming election season) I can't help wondering how much this circus is costing the American taxpayer. I'm talking time AND money here.
Holy shit, this group is a feckless bunch of idiots.
February 13, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see it as a waste of taxpayers dollars....I do not...and did not in the past, trust baseball to "clean up their act" on their own...I think the investigations into drug use back in 2005 caused them to make some changes and I think the current focus has/will also cause changes that they would not have done otherwise. Since MLB has been granted by Congress basically a monopoly...then some "oversight" is reasonable. However, I would hope that once this hearing is done, that they would move on to other things.
February 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
smile when you say that, mister.
February 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remind me why this is important again? This seems like a witch hunt. If congress is concerned about HGH or steroids or drugs in general, fine. But why major league baseball? I'm not saying that these guys are innocent or this isn't a problem, but aren't there more important things to worry about and isn't this really just a problem for MLB and the players association?
February 13, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is important for several reasons. The drugs in question are only allowed to be used with a prescription from a doctor. That is the law.
Young athletes are easily influenced to copy the behavior of the top sports athletes in professional sports.
Some athletes who never cheated have lost their chances to play in the big leagues, because some broken down older amoral creeps shot up and stayed in the game, long after they should have been out of it.
And on and on.
February 13, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please take this tripe off your front page.
It is irrelevant. A story on the puppybowl ratings is of more import.
February 13, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clemens claims he was talking to Petitte in 1999 or 2000 about a TV show where old guys were taking HGH?
Somebody tell me what TV show this was. Maybe my memory is bad, or I didn't watch enough TV back then, but I seriously doubt that there was a show back then that had a riveting storyline about 3 old guys taking HGH. I don't even think there was much mainstream knowledge of HGH back then. Sounds like an invented story.
Having said that, I agree that this is all a huge waste of time.
February 13, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Untill I see Mr. Clemens hanging onto his chair with a thermos of coffee and a half eatin orange, I am not prepared to give him the "Mr. Smith" endorsement that "We don't believe that any man who wasn't sincere would put himself through all this".
February 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a joke. The congress of the United States is peopled by the biggest criminals the world has ever known. It's amazing to have so many liars packed into the same room all at once. It's a friggin' liars convention for bragging rights to see who can tell the biggest whopper. Clemens isn't in the same league with our elected officials. At least Clemens hasn't been negligent relative to his job performance and certainly not in a way that caused thousands of Americans to lose their lives. I think I'm gonna puke.
February 13, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boy, I sure am glad that the House is protecting my from baseball players using steroids and HGH. Never can tell when you'll get hit by a super-fast ball from the Rocket. What's next, investigating the use of silicone in the adult-entertainment industry?
This issue is being used to avoid dealing with an authoritarian regime that has lied us into a war and has done everything it could to transfer wealth to the "haves and have-mores - as as I prefer to call you, my base", thereby laying waste to social programs. Those actions have hurt far more kids than any athlete's idiocy.
February 13, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whether or not you approve of our tax monies being spent in this manner, and fyi..I do not..it is being done..hence it deserves to be reported on by TPM.jeez..see Alex and buy a clue ok?
February 13, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next time you guys bitch at the media for covering fluff, just remember: you helped them by consuming and regurgitating it to us.
February 13, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with the wthawd group. That's the what the he.. are we doing. Our democracy is dying of war and debt brought on by the fraud in the WH. Congress, get a grip.
February 13, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rober Clemens is a joke!
My father and brother were both in major league baseball and I heard all about how Roger STOLE from fellow teammates in college.
Someone was stealing on their team so they set him up by putting money or a wallet in a locker and having someone hide in a stall in the bathroom. That person SAW Clemens sneak back in and STEAL the money.
Roger Clemens is a SAINT? He is a TYPICAL Republican, as well. What I mean as typical Republican is that he reminds me of the Cheney family. Steal their way to the top, and then throw some change at some kind of charity and want everyone to kiss their ass because they "give to children." I'm sick of overpaid entertainers and ballplayers being treated as angels because they some of their MILLIONS to charity/tax breaks.
February 13, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
not a good day for Roger.
February 13, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its an expenditure by the idiots in Congress which I find utterly ridiculous but how is covering it 'fluff'?
This site covers many issues including the spending of our tax dollars on bs..which I think this hearing fully qualifies as...that said;
If you don't like it..move on to the next post for the love of Pete, no one is twisting anyone's arm here. Or perhaps you enjoy complaining about it, which btw, would qualify you as a consumer and regurgitator too.
February 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This man is talking out of both sides of his mouth. Now lets see if ESPN, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and all the other media will breathlessly report every 10 seconds on his guilt as they cheerlead for his prosecution. You know the same way they did for Barry Bonds.
Oops, you say there's a difference, pray tell what could it be?
February 13, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like many others here, I believe this is a total waste of taxpayer money. We have many issues facing this country that make this issue seem as important as who left the empty milk carton in the fridge.
I would be willing to bet everyone of our elected officials has told a lie or intentionally mislead the public in an attempt to influence public opinion. I call this a performance enhancing lie. I propose that every one of them be put under oath to ask if they have ever done such a thing and then investigate them all until we have proven they have purjured themselves.
This is like asking Clinton under oath if he had sex. I would like to see W and his crew be put under oath tomorrow. Let Baseball manage their own house. The government has real work to do.
February 13, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will someone please explain why this became a Republican versus Democratic dispute?
February 13, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will someone please explain why this became a Republican versus Democratic dispute?
Posted by JTHB
that's easy. the republicans, by their very nature, rush to defend the rich, crooked white guy. it's what they do.
February 13, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think somebody should introduce legislation affording baseball players retroactive immunity from prosecution.
February 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully Clemens will end up in jail....
NOW that it's said, get this DRIBBLE out of ANY news report....
February 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It makes perfect sense that Congress fully investigate Roger Clemens' use of steroids, instead of inestigating real crimes being perpetrated by the Bush administration. For one thing, Clemens is someone they can actually compel to show up to testify. And it'll be covered by all the major news outlets - be sure & watch how much time is devoted to Clemens & the ramifications.
Hearings about corruption in the Bush administration, on the other hand get no media coverage, And if a government official does testify they sound like a Dana Perino press briefing (saying nothing with lotsa words).
February 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone else here noticed that the Republicans on this committee have done everything in their power to make McNamee look bad and support Clemens?
The sad story of the Repub leadership is that they have a psychological inability to tell the truth or support someone who is trying to tell the truth...even when they don't have a dog in this fight!
They are all a bunch of lying, conniving cheaters, and Dan Burton is right down there up with the worst of them. This is the man who spent years going after Clinton for lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky..
February 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Baseball has a special anti-trust exemption and therefore oversight of their activities is the responsibility of Congress. Those of you who are complaining about Congress having better things to do are right to an extent, but Congress does have a duty to scrutinize the affairs of a monopoly.
It's really stupid for them to spend so much time on it, but I don't think it's stupid that they are investigating because they are actually doing their job (*gasp*). I just wish they'd be more thorough with their OTHER anti-trust and oversight investigations. (hint hint)
February 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Again, I have family in major league baseball and I understand congress wanting to spend time trying to send a message to kids NOT to use steroids, but THIS REALLY SHOULD not be receiving the kind of attention it has in the media. WHERE IS the coverage over the OUTRAGEOUS misuse of our tax dollars, and tax funded intelligence by the Bush Administration in order for them to get no-bid war contracts?
February 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops - family that WAS in major league baseball (past tense).
February 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see this as a waste of Congress' time. Baseball and other sports are billion dollar endeavors and should be on the up and up. Baseball - both ownership and particularly the players' union - have strenuously fought off any probing of PEDs for years.
Clemens comes off as an arrogant a**hole who thinks he can make his case by bullying any opposition. And the spectacle of Dan Burton reminds us of his chairmanship several years ago. What a jerk - how can you people in IN stand to be represented by him?
February 14, 2008 6:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
When you visit with members of the committee (Republicans) before you make your testimony (Clemmons)signing autographs and being fawned over by decrepit old men, many seeking a campaign "donation" what what you have expected for them to say?
Why is it that when these old farts have the opportunity to do the right thing, say the right thing, or come close--they go the other way.
In their efforts to support Clemmons, only makes his guilt more evident. Why in the world if you need support would you ask one of these morally, ethically-corrupt, lying, cheating and thieving a$$holes for help?
Geesh.
February 14, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Important, yes. Demonstrates again how the systeme works. The rich and powerful act in a theatre of the absurd at a high cost to their prey. These word wrassling events are popular much like other similar entertainment. Keeping hands off those at the top and playing the heartstrings by using saving youth or the national sport as motivation are all too familiar.
This is what I see as the importance of this as another powerful observation of the ways of the world. Whether it is abu gharib, the politicization of the justice department or another recent scandal those at the top are not touched despite their complicity. And instead of being direct in placing responsibility for all those involved, there is a flag waving and charitable covering put on those truly responsible for the situation.
The theatrical word wrassling is merely another means to distract attention from the heart of the matter and plays to those with limited resources and without the required empowerment to feel hopeful about being able to change the system which preys on them.
February 14, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
This should be a "professional" sports matter, not a Congressional issue.
But, given the quality of the Congress as a whole, who expects any better?
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
February 27, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink