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Conyers to White House: We Need to Know More about Wiretapping
Signaling the fight ahead when lawmakers get together to sort out the differences between the Senate and House surveillance bills, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) wrote White House counsel Fred Fielding today to deliver two messages: 1) from what he's seen of the documents relating to the administration's warrantless wiretapping program, there's no reason to grant the telecoms retroactive immunity (he prefers the term "amnesty"), and 2) Congress needs to know more before it can be expected to consider granting that amnesty.
The administration suddenly gave Conyers, along with a limited number of members of his committee and the full House intelligence committee, access to documents relating to the program late last month. It was obviously part of the administration's drive to secure immunity for the telecoms. But Conyers says that hasn't worked for him:
...review and consideration of the documents and briefings provided so far leads me to conclude that there is no basis for the broad telecommunications company amnesty provisions advocated by the Administration and contained in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) bill being considered today in the Senate, and that these materials raise more questions than they answer on the issue of amnesty for telecommunications providers.
Beyond that, Conyers asks a list of questions about the scope and success of the administration's warrantless wiretapping program, along with a slew of documents related to the program that he hasn't seen. Chief among the documents Conyers wants to see is the October, 2001 memo from John Yoo in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel that originally authorized the warrantless wiretapping program.
He also wants the rest of the members on his committee to get a chance to see the documents already turned over; the administration only agreed to allow 19 (10 Dems, 9 GOPers) members to see the documents last month. In the letter, Conyers writes that the administration's reluctance to part with information about the program "belies its position on the importance of the legislation: rather than the Administration giving Congress all the information it needs, the Administration has provided a slow trickle of information to only selected members of Congress, almost assuring that Congress cannot adequately consider its requests."
You can read that letter below in its entirety.
Dear Mr. Fielding:I am writing to follow up on previous letters and requests of January 5, 2006, February 8, 2006, July 30, 2007, September 11, 2007, October 15, 2007, and October 16, 2007, requesting information and documents from this Administration concerning the warrantless surveillance program, known as the terrorist surveillance program (TSP), first disclosed by the New York Times on December 16, 2005, and related matters. Although some of the requested materials have been provided to some Judiciary Committee members, much of the information has not, and it is crucial that this material be produced as promptly as possible so that Congress may fulfill its legislative and oversight responsibilities. Indeed, review and consideration of the documents and briefings provided so far leads me to conclude that there is no basis for the broad telecommunications company amnesty provisions advocated by the Administration and contained in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) bill being considered today in the Senate, and that these materials raise more questions than they answer on the issue of amnesty for telecommunications providers. In order to more fully understand and react to the Administration’s request for broad-based and retroactive amnesty for telecommunications firms, who may be in a position to divulge information concerning misconduct by Administration officials, it is imperative that your provide this information to us as promptly as possible, as we have been asking for many months on numerous occasions.
Throughout this past year, the Administration has sounded a drumbeat that Congress enact the Administration’s request for amendments to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). However, during this same time, the Administration has denied to Congress essential documents and information that would permit Congress, in the exercise of its Article I responsibilities, to consider the proposed amendments to FISA in a prudent and careful manner. This Administration cannot be heard to complain about the unwillingness of Congress to enact legislation that the Administration claims to be so vital for the national security when the Administration at the same time has denied to Congress documents and information that are essential to its legislative responsibilities. Frankly, the Administration’s refusal to provide the requested information belies its position on the importance of the legislation: rather than the Administration giving Congress all the information it needs, the Administration has provided a slow trickle of information to only selected members of Congress, almost assuring that Congress cannot adequately consider its requests.
Once again, I have set forth below our request for documents and information. I further reiterate my request that all these materials, as well as those provided so far, be made available to the entire Judiciary Committee and, to the extent possible, to the American public via immediate and appropriate declassification. To assist the Administration in prioritizing its response, without altering our request for all the information below, I would stress three requests in particular:
First, please provide access to all Members of the House Judiciary Committee those briefings and materials you have made available to 19 Members as of now. Currently, it is my understanding that the entire membership of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Committee on the Judiciary and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has been permitted to be “read in” to the TSP program. The only Committee of jurisdiction that has not been offered the same access is the House Judiciary Committee. This is unacceptable and serves little purpose but to impede our Members review of the program and understanding of your request for retroactive amnesty.
Second, please provide the Memorandum for Alberto R. Gonzales, Counsel to the President, and William J. Haynes, II, General Counsel Department of Defense, from John C. Yoo, Deputy Assistant Attorney General and Robert J. Delahunty, Special Counsel, Office of Legal Counsel, Re: Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States. It is believed that this Memorandum is dated either October 17, 2001, or October 23, 2001. Based on the title of this document, and based on the contents of similar memoranda issued at roughly the same time, it appears that a substantial portion of this Memorandum provides a legal determination and analysis as to the nature and scope of the Presidential war powers to accomplish specific acts within the United States. Congress is entitled to know the executive branch’s interpretation of its constitutional powers.
Third, please provide copies of filings, correspondence or transcripts of colloquies with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court about TSP or other warrantless or other electronic surveillance programs, containing legal analysis, arguments, or decisions concerning the interpretation of FISA, the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, the Authorization for the Use of Military Force enacted on September 18, 2001, or the President's authority under Article II of the Constitution.
In addition, as per our September 11, 2007, letter, we reiterate our requests for the following documents:
1. All documents from September 11, 2001, to the present, including e-mail, that reflect, discuss, or describe agreements or understandings between the White House, the Department of Justice, the National Security Agency, or any other entity of the Executive Branch and telecommunications companies, internet service providers, equipment manufacturers, or data processors regarding criminal or civil liability for assisting with or participating in warrantless electronic surveillance program(s).
2. An unredacted copy of the notes or program log of FBI Director Mueller provided to the House Judiciary Committee on August 14, 2007, concerning the March 2004 hospital visit to former Attorney General John Ashcroft and other events that former Deputy Attorney General James Comey described in his May 15, 2007, testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
3. All documents from December 1, 2005, to the present related to the investigation by the Department of Justice's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) into the role of Department of Justice attorneys in the authorization and oversight of the warrantless electronic surveillance program, which was opened on January 11, 2006, and closed approximately three months later after OPR investigators were denied the necessary security clearances (OPR Investigation) that reflect, discuss, or describe the following:
a) consideration of the request for security clearances;
b) communications between White House personnel, including the President or the Vice President, and Department of Justice personnel about the OPR investigation or consideration of the request for security clearances; and
c) the reasons for suspending that investigation (since revived by the Attorney General).
4. Since September 11, 2001, all audits, reports, or evaluations of or concerning any warrantless surveillance program(s), whether conducted by government employees or private companies, including any reports as to the effectiveness of minimization standards to protect U.S. persons’ communications.
I would also again ask that you ensure that the appropriate entity in the Administration immediately provide written responses to the following questions, which we have previously submitted last year:
1. Since September 11, 2001, has the Administration conducted any warrantless surveillance in the United States, other than through the warrantless electronic surveillance program the President acknowledged in late 2005 (known now as the Terrorist Surveillance Program), or as explicitly authorized by FISA, or any other warrantless surveillance techniques such as physical searches of home or offices or opening of mail? Are such activities continuing? Is the Administration currently conducting any foreign intelligence surveillance in the United States, other than that explicitly authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)?
2. How many actionable leads have been referred to operational entities as a result of acquisitions of U.S. persons’ conversations or communications?
a) Please break down the response as follows: 1) between September 11, 2001, and October 25, 2001; 2) between October 25, 2001, and January 10, 2007; 3) between January 10, 2007, and August 5, 2007; and 4) since August 5, 2007.
b) Of the actionable leads referred to operational entities, what have been the results? Please differentiate between counter-terrorism, criminal investigations and prosecutions, counter-espionage, and in-theater combat operations. Please indicate with specificity whether any attacks have been averted.
3. How many conversations or communications (both incoming or outgoing) monitored under the programs have revealed a contact between a U.S. person and someone for whom there was probable cause to believe they were in or supporting al Qaeda? How many people in the U.S. have had email communications with someone considered to be in al Qaeda? How many of these conversations or communications have actually involved terrorist activity, as opposed to other topics of conversation? How many people have been charged with any wrongdoing as a result of such interceptions? How many terrorist activities have been disrupted as a result of such interceptions? How many people have been subjected to surveillance but not charged with any crime or otherwise detained?
4. How many persons whose conversations or communications were monitored under the programs have been subjected to any other surveillance techniques or searches, such as physical searches of home or offices, opening of mail, etc, whether subject to a warrant or not?
5. Have any U.S. persons whose conversations or communications were monitored under the programs been detained within the United States? Have any U.S. or foreign persons been interrogated or detained outside of the United States, whether by the United States or any other government, in significant part as a result of such monitoring?
6. Have journalists, lawyers, lawmakers (whether federal, state, or local), or aides had their conversations or communications monitored under the programs? If so, how many?
7. How many U.S. persons had conversations (voice or email content) or communications (call or email data) acquired through electronic surveillance programs? In how many of these acquisitions was the U.S. person the target of the acquisition? In how many of these acquisitions was the acquisition incidental? How many warrants for continued surveillance were sought after identification of someone as a U.S. person? How many such applications were denied? Please break down the response between warrantless and other electronic surveillance programs as to the following periods:
a) between September 11, 2001, and October 25, 2001;
b) between October 25, 2001, and January 10, 2007;
c) between January 10, 2007, and August 5, 2007; and
d) since August 5, 2007.8. How many individuals have been targeted for surveillance under the Protect America Act that involved foreign intelligence generally, as opposed to terrorism or nuclear proliferation?
9. Please identify any telecommunication companies or internet service providers that refused to allow access to communication streams without Court sanction or questioned the terms of the requests or demands which were being made of them and, to the extent that discussions with such companies were conducted orally rather than through written dialogue, please authorize the relevant parties to discuss the content of those discussions with Committee staff and Members.
I am enclosing for your information copies of previous requests concerning these matters made to the Administration.













Looks like he missed asking for th erecords that occurred before 9/11.
February 12, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is past time for the Administration to start providing information to Congress to support it's oversight role. Unfortunately, this is not going to happen until impeachment hearings have begun. The administration will continue to delay and deny. If Conyers really wants this information he knows how to get it. It's time to start impeachment hearings!
February 12, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lying sacks of shit. They DON'T need to know more. They're AGAIN just trying to do a little of of tough-talk before they give gw everything he demands. Valueless wusses.
February 12, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look out he sent a letter!! A strongly worded letter!!! Take cover!!
Bush: "Excuse me while I throw this in the trash receptical, next to that worthless Constitution thingy."
At least I still got my sense of humor. :)
February 12, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
No amnesty for republican fascists.
February 12, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Although I can understand the intense frustration in response to the eagerness of many Democrats to capitulate to the Republicans, it is offensive to castigate those such as John Conyers and Christopher Dodd, who have not received the support they should have received from members of their own Party. Congress is on the verge of legalizing the Terrorist Surveillance Program, but instead of insulting those who did not have enough support from their colleagues to stop this odious revision of FISA, we should reserve our disgust for the people who engineered this assault on our Constitution.
February 12, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ixnay on the fascistay! They are watching! Now, smile and wave to the camera.
February 12, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Conyers "we need to know more"-assertion is absurd. He's not serious about fact finding, just shows. What's Conyers going to do if he doesn't get the informaiton he needs: Impeach the President, issue a contempt citation, write a letter, issue a subpoena? That hasn't worked.
February 12, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me disagree, partially, with JA above.
Yes, Conyers is asking for another letter (which he probably won't get, and more especially so since Mukasey is now running interferrence for Bush/Cheney and, forget justice and equality of the law, they are all just waiting for the clock to run out.
But, Conyers has been consistant as has Senators Dodd and Feingold. I share your frustration, but short of the DOJ/Mukasey having a Christian conversion, (Can you believe Karl Rove attends church?) we can't expect that these good folks are going to get what they want unless its via some threat of violence. That's clear. And we know that's not going to happen.
In short, the American people are betrayed by their own elected government, and especially those who are beholden to their political party first and to the telecom industry for political contributions.
I have just spent the past two hours emailing (or trying to in some cases) the members of the House of Representatives of my state, Georgia, to oppose this immunity when it comes up in the house. There's no use to email my senators, because Saxby Chambliss has even been booed by members of his own party, and Johnny Isakson simply trots along on this issue.
If there is to be any consolation about this, it's that those who support these illegalities, well, their children and grandchildren will be spied upon just like mine. The differnece is, I love my children and grandchildren and they don't love theirs. How could they and vote as they do?
In addition, I have yet to see anyone ask just who were the targets being spied upon prior to 9/11 and just what was being looked for?
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
February 12, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quoting Blaine Kinsley, above;
"...instead of insulting those who did not have enough support from their colleagues to stop this odious revision of FISA, we should reserve our disgust for the people who engineered this assault on our Constitution."
You must be new, here.
February 12, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Conyers has the power to start impeachment now. He has had that power and won't use it. Because there is no impeachment, there is no justice and with no justice, there is no peace.
It doesn't matter what any one senator or rep says or does, because at the end of the day, collectively, they will give Bushco everything he wants and screw the American people and the Constitution.
Now excuse me while I go freshen up for the cameras.
February 12, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
All that needs to happen, is let the stinking law expire, and stop even considering it. Table it, permanently. Take it off the agenda. And, do not extend it. Let it DIE
February 12, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no way to get important information from the Executive Branch short of impeaching members of it. We know this after Mukasey's testimony last week.
But what about the power of the purse? That power is diminished due to signing statements.
So Congress's oversight power is, at best, substantially reduced given that the House won't begin impeachment proceedings. Really, it's a pretty impotent branch of government, at least with these Dems running it.
I have little doubt that the Founders were spinning in their graves when the Executive was told by the Majority Leader, "Don't worry, we won't move to remove you from office." That power underlies all other oversight powers the Congress has vis a' vis the Executive Branch. Disarming Pelosi-style shows a profound lack of understanding of the Constitution.
February 12, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're our last hope, Obi-Wan Conyers!
February 12, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Although Bush and Cheney deserve impeachment, John Conyers will not initiate impeachment proceedings because he does not have the support of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and he does not have the support of a large segment of other Democrats in the House of Representatives. This was evident when Dennis Kucinich tried to initiate impeachment of the Vice-President. Misdirected anger is not productive.
February 13, 2008 6:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with this: Conyers has the power to start impeachment now. He has had that power and won't use it. Because there is no impeachment, there is no justice and with no justice, there is no peace.
But I think Rep. Conyers is held in check by a fear of what he anticipates will happen if he initiates the impeachment process. He may be imagining the worst consequence - blowback as he puts it. But Rep. Conyers may be wrong.
Anyone have experience overcoming fear - how'd you do it? How do we teach him that lesson?
February 13, 2008 7:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that most Americans would support an effort to impeach the President and the Vice-President, and I think that Rep. Conyers favors impeachment, but the problem for Rep. Conyers is that his weak-willed colleagues in the House of Representatives will not support impeachment. Rep. Conyers does not have the power to overcome the fear among a large segment of his own Party, and these cowering Democrats do not think that they will pay any political price for trashing our Constitution. Those who favor impeachment should lobby their representatives in the House.
February 13, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
The ONLY way to get John Conyers the answers he (and We the People) sorely need is to make the Administration realize there are consequences for stonewalling.
And the only way to do this is for the entire House of Representatives to vote on the contempt charges passed by the House Judiciary Committee against Harriet Miers and Josh Bolton. They have the votes to do this, but Pelosi is holding it up. The best part is the Senate can't filibuster this one. So it's all in Pelosi's lap.
If we all call Pelosi's office and put pressure on the House to defend its Article I responsibilities under the Constitution to hold the Executive Branch into account, we might really start "taking back" our Government.
The Capitol Switchboard is 202-225-3121. It wouldn't hurt to call your representative as well and urge him/her to call Pelosi.
February 14, 2008 8:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
They're moving on contempt now. All right! Keep calling!
February 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink