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Senate Set to Pass Bill Banning Waterboarding
This is what the administration's recent pro-waterboarding PR offensive had been leading up to. But the Republican side backed down.
Later this afternoon, the Senate will be voting on a bill authorizing the government's intelligence activities. Included in that bill is a measure sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) that would restrict the interrogation methods the CIA could use to the Army Field Manual, which bans waterboarding and other harsh techniques currently used by the CIA. The Republicans had been expected to challenge that provision, forcing a vote. But they didn't. After a vote on the bill in 90 minutes or so, it will be on its way to the President, who has already announced that he will veto it. 
So why the sudden retreat? It's not clear how the votes would have come down, exactly. But Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who has frequently spoken out against waterboarding, was considered a key vote, creating the potentially awkward situation of him taking a stand against the president. 60 votes would have been needed to retain the measure. Now that situation has been avoided -- for now. If the president follows through with his veto threat, the Senate would hold a vote to override the veto, and McCain's vote would become an issue again, though perhaps this time, not such a crucial one.













Yay..a new top post..bless you ;)
Surely it isn't a surprise that King George will veto this? McCain's vote will be interesting at this point..with all the bruhaha about his conservative credentials.
February 13, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damned fine first start. Now let's see if we can get the 60 needed to rip this horrid technique out of the American playbook.
February 13, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I know-- why don't we offer an amendment to allow the Commandante to opt-out of the law whenever he wants--oh-- make sure to include immunity for past acts, too... I think we can get this winner passed in time for the spring recess and show all of our subjects how smart we are in our pretty suits. We can call it- Bipartisan... that's a nice word, isn't it? There--how's about a nice pat on the head...
what's for dinner?
February 13, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "Commandante" already has an opt-out..its called a signing statement.
February 13, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
...an exercise in futility.
King George W has already pre-empted this legislative attempt.
Sorry.
February 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't find the key to stay "logged in"
February 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can always tell when the administration is about to ask for 170 billion more, or thereabouts, to fund the occupation.
The Republicans give Democrats something that is essentially meaningless as far as enforcement goes. (Signing statements).
February 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand what the big deal is - just make waterboarding legal, and give retroactive immunity.
Isn't that what our gutless congress is for? Legalizing crime?
February 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Overriding Bush's veto will require 67 votes, not just 60.
February 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why not a bill retroactively making waterboarding illega1! (that may make the consitution relevant for the administration interestingly enough)
Waterboarding was already banned if I'm not mistaken; I'm actually going to cite John Oliver's report on the Daily Show where several Japanese prisoners were executed for waterboarding. Did I miss something where it was legalized??
February 13, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully McCain is forced to vote on this in the near future. It would be a good test of whether he's a "maverick" with at least some values or a panderer who will do and say anything for the top job.
February 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would think that if the President Vetoes it as expected that McCain would not be present for the vote or maybe he votes in favor of the ban.
If he doesn't show up and vote this provides great fodder for the Dem's come election time as McCain has already stated that he is against its use. I guess the straight talk express isn't so straight after all.
February 13, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator McCain already voted for the Military Commissions Act which legalized torture. So this is not a first for him. As a former supporter from 2000, it's sad to see him abandon his principles. The one senator who truly knows about torture.
February 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink