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FBI Chief: No Waterboarding Here
This month, President Bush is expected to veto a Senate bill that would restrict the CIA to using interrogation techniques approved by the Army Field Manual. That would unequivocally outlaw waterboarding, the inducement of hypothermia, sensory deprivation, and other "enhanced interrogation" techniques that have been in the CIA's arsenal.
The veto is likely to survive an attempt by Senate to override because ever since 9/11, the administration and Republicans (including Sen. John McCain) have preferred to keep legal restraints on CIA interrogators loose.
But the FBI, which, unlike the CIA had ample experience with interrogation, took a different tack. During today's hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) asked FBI Director Robert Mueller why:
LEAHY: And you have a policy, as does the military, the military handbooks, not to use coercive techniques like waterboarding. Why do you have that policy?MUELLER: There are a number of reasons that probably contributed to the development of that policy years ago. Generally, our questioning has been, in the past, done in the United States, and the results of our questioning often end up in a court. Whereas, you and other who have been prosecutors know the question of voluntariness is at issue for the admissibility of information you have.
And, consequentially, the policy was established, I would imagine, given our particular unique mission here and the operation under the Constitution, the applicable statutes and the attorney general guidelines.
It also is a result, I believe, of the analysis of our Behavioral Science Unit as to effective use of particular techniques where we believe that the rapport-building technique is particularly effective.
Mueller also acknowledged that the "rapport-building" approach apparently was quite successful with Saddam Hussein.
Remember that down in Guantanamo Bay, FBI and military interrogators (the "Clean Team") had to re-examine detainees because the techniques used by CIA interrogators meant that the testimony would not hold up in court. Not that the director of national intelligence has any doubt that "enhanced interrogation" techniques produce reliable information ("we can tell in minutes if they are lying"). I guess it's just a different way of doing things.





But, McConnell said they could tell if torture victims were lying, because they ALREADY KNEW the information that they were trying to get the torture victim to admit to. In other words, they were torturing people, not to GET information, but for confirmation - or to punish them for not liking us?
Kinda blows the "ticking time bomb" thing out of the water.
March 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonathan Turley in his editorial reminds us that waterboarding is illegal under US and internatioanl law. That the Senate cannot get the President to agree is meaningless. The issue has impermissibly changed from the ongoing illegal torture, to whether or not the President-Senate will or will not agree.
The question is whether the "CIA techniques" are or are not lawful. If the President will not agree to constrain the CIA under any rules, then the CIA agents could be classified as unlawful combatants and executed. This does not appear to be consitent with public policy. When the enemy believes they will be treated humanely, they're more likely to surrender. When they believe they will be abused, they are likely to continue the fight and increase American combat losses.
When the Senate and President talk about "enhanced interrogation" techniques, be honest with what they're saying. The Gestapo used the same phrase. It is torture. This tells us the CIA has been using torture [added text]:
March 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know that the MSM uses quotation marks, as in "enhanced interrogation techniques," because they don't have the cojones to call it for what it is. But can't you do so, Mr. Kiel? Can you simply use the term "torture" (sans quotation marks) instead? The Bush administration has tortured our English language enough. Please, let's not do it here. Thank you.
March 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
TESTING ,
Will the FBI be making any comments/testimony to the Hague regarding the torture undertaken by this administration.?
March 5, 2008 9:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
unfortunately we already know the answer to that... besides, they don't have to. the US is not a signatory to the International Court of Justice. again, unfortunately, we know why this is.
March 13, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink