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"We don't have any Thomas Jeffersons here."

That's a Marine captain in The Washington Post's front page story this morning on the state of affairs in Fallujah. You're not likely to ever read a more sobering narrative about Iraq -- or a more quotable one. The focus of the piece is the city's police chief, Col. Faisal Ismail al-Zobaie, a former member of Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard, turned insurgent turned police chief. Zobaie, and the people around him, have a talent for putting things succinctly.

The Post's Sudarsan Raghavan writes that "American ideals that were among the justifications for the 2003 invasion, such as promoting democracy and human rights, are giving way to values drawn from Iraq's traditions and tribal culture, such as respect, fear and brutality." Or, as Zobaie puts it:

"I have realized that Americans love the strong guy."

And here's Zobaie's defense of his police force's treatment of prisoners -- a statement apparently made without irony:

"We never tortured anybody," he said. "Sometimes we beat them during the first hours of capture."

U.S. Army Maj. Mike Cava, a military judge advocate, on the deplorable standards in the jail run by Zobaie, where inmates are not given meals and sit in cells without air conditioning (last summer, six detainees died of heatstroke):

"It's a typical Iraqi jail. Their standards are different than ours. They just do things the Iraqi way."

Capt. Mohammed Yousef from Zobaie's police force:

"Since Saddam Hussein until now, Iraq obeys only the force," Yousef said. "We are practicing the same old procedures."

Sheik Abu Abdul Salman, an imam who calls Zobaie's control of Fallujah "worse than Saddam Hussein":

Salman, the imam, said Zobaie controls the city with "a fire fist."

"But to be honest, security is restored under this guy," he said. "We have a saying in Iraq: 'Fever is better than death.' We were dead. Life stopped at 2 p.m. Everybody was afraid of themselves, including me. If he didn't use the force, the security wouldn't be restored. We don't like the weak man."

And back to Zobaie:

"If you go through the history of Iraq, you will see that only the tough guy can control the country," he said. He rattled off the names of every leader since Iraq's monarchy ended in 1958 with a bloody coup. Hussein, he said, had lasted the longest in power....

What Zobaie wants is for the U.S. military to hand over full control of Fallujah. He believes Iraq's current leaders are not strong enough. Asked whether democracy could ever bloom here, he replied: "No democracy in Iraq. Ever."

"When the Americans leave the city," he said, "I'll be tougher with the people."


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Wonderful!

The U.S. invaded Iraq. Due to Gross Negligence (in the legal sense) in post-invasion planning, the occupation turned into a veritable cluster-fuck. As a means to restore order and make the occupation somehow look "successful", the US armed forces have implemented or actively encouraged the Iraqis to implement the same barbarous policies of Saddam Hussein.

Please tell me. "The Surge" is working how?
Is there one miniscule shred of a justification that might be rationally termed legitimate?


Why are any of the major proponents for this heinous war still in office? Can we PLEASE impeach Bush & Cheney?


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Next guy with a big black moustache- you're in.

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At least he will be our Strong Guy. Until he isn't our Strong Guy, but let's not quibble over minor points.

I wonder how the Never Blame America crowd will spin this little bit of reporting?

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And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for? Don't ask me I don't give a damn...

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To paraphrase Ed Vedder paraphrasing John Lennon, "No short haired, yellow bellied, son of Georgie-Porgie's gonna mother hubbard soft soap me with just a pocket full of... money for oil... blood for oil..."

How arrogant:

"We don't have any Thomas Jeffersons here."

This is a sweeping assertion, and a reckless statement to make. The Iraqis have the sense to stand up for themselves. The same was said of Americans in 1776, WWII, and now.

Is someone asking us to believe that the Iraqis aren't capbable of solving problems and visualizing an improvement as Jefferson did? That's absurd. The Iraqis have a reasonable basis to challenge this statement in the public.

Wasn't the US invasion of Iraq supposed to "end" this lawlessness? Arguing, "That is the way Iraqis do things," is an excuse to closely embrace the abuses the US used as a pretext to invade.

The ides of the US security was to provide a stabilizing force to ensure Iraq could transition from what it was, to something that was civilized. It appears the US would like this uncivilized conduct to continue as it continues the pretext to use US combat forces in the future, as the US has done over the decades in Central America.

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"We don't have any Thomas Jeffersons here." said the Marine Captian,after we had blown the hell out of not only Fallujah,but also Baghdad and the rest of the country except the oil wells.We meaning the United States and the coalition of the chilling.And once we destroyed the country,killed Saddam in nominus regime change; we gave the people back the same kinds of corrupt,tyranical leaders, called it a democracy,and plotted with those same leaders to steal the country`s oil and sell it to our own country for outrageous profits--the "we" having become the filthy rich in the transaction.
I must say to the Marine Captain with no due respect,"There aren`t any Thomas Jeffersons here either.

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