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Conyers Questions Mukasey on FISA Claim

It's gotten to be something of a pattern with administration figures of late: making sweeping claims about national security matters that do not stand up to scrutiny. Just Monday, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) complained that Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell (who has something of a habit with this), had mischaracterized liberal opposition to retroactive immunity in the Senate as a bunch of impeachment-crazed loonies.

This time it's Attorney General Michael Mukasey who's catching flak. In a Q&A session after a speech last week, Mukasey said:

"[Officials] shouldn't need a warrant when somebody with a phone in Iraq picks up a phone and calls somebody in the United States because that's the call that we may really want to know about. And before 9/11, that's the call that we didn't know about. We knew that there has been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn't know precisely where it went."

The problem with this, as Glenn Greenwald at Salon has shown, is that nothing of this sort seems to have happened. Greenwald asked former executive director of the 9/11 Commission Philip Zelikow, who responded that he was "not sure of course what the AG had in mind" and came up empty guessing.

In a letter today, House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-MI) calls Mukasey's statement very disturbing and writes, "I am aware of no previous reference, in the 9/11 Commission report or elsewhere, to a call from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States which, if it had been intercepted, could have helped prevent the 9/11 attacks." And anyway, he adds, there's no reason why the FISA law would not have served to intercept the call in this instance. So what's Mukasey talking about? he wants to know.

You can read the letter, which was also signed by fellow committee members Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) and Bobby Scott (D-VA), below. The lawmakers also ask, not for the first time, for a copy of the October 23, 2001 memo by John Yoo that declared the Fourth Amendment kaput (it had "no application to domestic military operations").

April 3, 2008

The Honorable Michael Mukasey
Attorney General of the United States
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20530

Dear Mr. Attorney General:

We are writing about two disturbing recent revelations concerning the actions and inactions by the Department of Justice and the federal government to combat terrorism. These include a public statement by you that appears to suggest a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal government’s existing surveillance authority to combat terrorism, as well as possible malfeasance by the government prior to 9/11, and the partial disclosure of the contents of a secret Department memorandum concerning Executive Branch authority to combat terrorism, which has been previously requested to be provided to Congress. We ask that you promptly provide that memorandum and that you clarify your public statement in accordance with the questions below.

First, according to press reports, in response to questions at a March 27 speech, you defended Administration wiretapping programs and proposals to change the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by referring to a pre-9/11 incident. Before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, you stated, “we knew that there had been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn’t know precisely where it went. You’ve got 3,000 people who went to work that day, and didn’t come home, to show for that.”1

This statement is very disturbing for several reasons. Initially, despite extensive inquiries after 9/11, I am aware of no previous reference, in the 9/11 Commission report or elsewhere, to a call from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States which, if it had been intercepted, could have helped prevent the 9/11 attacks. In addition, if the Administration had known of such communications from suspected terrorists, they could and should have been intercepted based on existing FISA law. For example, even assuming that a FISA warrant was required to intercept such calls, as of 9/11 FISA specifically authorized such surveillance on an emergency basis without a warrant for a 48 hour period.2 If such calls were known about and not intercepted, serious additional concerns would be raised about the government’s failure to take appropriate action before 9/11.

Accordingly, we ask that you promptly answer the following questions:

1. Were you referring to an actual pre-9/11 incident in the portion of your statement quoted above? If not, what were you referring to?

2. Do you believe that a FISA warrant would have been required to intercept a telephone call from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States in 2001? If so, please explain.

3. Even assuming that such a warrant would have been required, do you agree that even before 9/11, FISA authorized emergency interception without a warrant for a 48-hour period of phone calls from a known terrorist safe house in Afghanistan to the United States?

4. Assuming that you were referring to an actual pre-9/11 incident in your statement, please explain why such phone calls were not intercepted and appropriately utilized by federal government authorities in seeking to prevent terrorist attacks.

Second, in the March, 2003 Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) memorandum publicly released on April 1, 2008, the contents of a secret October, 2001 OLC memorandum were partially disclosed. Specifically, the 2003 memorandum explains that in an October 23, 2001 memorandum, OLC “concluded that the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations.”3 On two prior occasions – in letters of February 12 and February 20, 2008, – Chairman Conyers requested that the Administration publicly release the October 23, 2001, memorandum .4 The memorandum has not been received despite these specific requests.

Based on the title of the October 23, 2001 memorandum, and based on what has been disclosed and the contents of similar memoranda issued at roughly the same time, it is clear that a substantial portion of this memorandum provides a legal analysis and conclusions as to the nature and scope of the Presidential Commander in Chief power to accomplish specific acts within the United States. The people of the United States are entitled to know the Justice Department’s interpretation of the President’s constitutional powers to wage war in the United States. There can be no actual basis in national security for keeping secret the remainder of a legal memorandum that addresses this issue of Constitutional interpretation. The notion that the President can claim to operate under “secret” powers known only to the President and a select few subordinates is antithetical to the core principles of this democracy. We ask that you promptly release the October 23, 2001, memorandum.

Please provide your responses and direct any questions to the Judiciary Committee office, 2138 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 (tel:202-225-3951; fax: 202-225-7680). Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely,

John Conyers, Jr.
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary

Jerrold Nadler
Chairman, Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties

Robert C. “Bobby” Scott
Chairman, Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security

cc: Hon. Lamar S. Smith
Hon. Trent Franks
Hon. Louie Gohmert
Hon. Brian Benczkowski


Comments (19)

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Thank you Paul for staying on top of this and tying this in with the Yoo memos too! I smell a very juicy hearing coming, hopefully!

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You gets into trouble with the FISA-related legal issues, and appears to be boxing himself into a corner on Geneva, war crimes, an combatant status. Unless the NSA contractors are subject to some law, the telecoms are not entitled to immunity, protections, or other Geneva protections afforded to lawful noncombatants. Specifically, the DOJ OLC Memo may have some bearing on how DoJ OLC viewed FISA-telecom's in re Geneva and the President's warrantless surveillance: Dubious confusion.

Note 23: "unclear whether the meaning of "employed by the armed forces" for purposes of the UCMJ extends to Department of Defense contractors as does section 3267." From

Geneva requires forces, units, personnel to be subject to laws. Otherwise, those forces are not lawful. If, as Yoo asserts, the contractors are "not" subject to Geneva obligations -- prohibiting the use of military resources against civilians, or intrusions into homes by the military in wartime -- then an argument could be made the telecoms have been unlawful combatants assisting DoD in committing Geneva violations against US civilians during wartime.

What with voluntary resignations, "compelled" resignations, and "my-ass-is-out-of-here" resignations, I think this Administration is down to its second- or third-string players.

They started with Ashcroft, whom I certainly didn't like but whom revelations have shown to have had some integrity and competence. Then they put Gonzales. Do I need to elaborate?

So now they're down to Mukasey.

And while Gonzales clearly was challenged by his responsibilities, at least he was able to dodge any revelations through his unique brand of obfuscation (and that smirk that made me want to slap him).

But Mukasey must think he's really, really smart, because he keeps saying stuff that is way too easy to show isn't true. Only the deludedly arrogant say stupid stuff like that, because they think they're so smart that no one else is smart enough to question it or prove it false.

So as they started with Rumsfeld (the poster boy for self-confidence) and now have Gates (who to me seems to be utterly overwhelmed by being Secretary of Defense), started with Powell and went to Rice, started with Tenet and went to Goss and then Hayden, started with Ridge and went to Chertoff, subsequent appointments are worse than earlier ones, even if the bar was already set pretty darned low.

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That whole "dropping the fourth amendment" thing kind of brings us into impeachment territory, doesn't it? Not a lawyer here but nullifying a constitutional amendment kinda sounds like a fattie.

No kidding.

Taken with some of the outlines in Yoo and the administration their writings how the 2001 AUMF gives them carte blanche to wage war even within the borders of the U.S. and beyond legislative and judicial oversight, and beyond that the CinC has inherent authority to override the constitution, I fail to see how anyone who as sworn an oath to defend the constitution can not be compelled to seek impeachment.

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You think?!?

Impeachment?
Just for the capricious nullification of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America?

WHY would anyone think that declaring the 4th Amendment NOT to apply just because the president says so would be grounds for impeachment???

We have an election coming up. We don't want the American public to get confused with partisan sniping amongst impeachment proceedings.

Impeachment?


If we don't, there's a very large possiblity there will be no elections, or if there are elections and the Democratic candidate does win that Cheney will permit a peaceful transfer of power. And why should they? They can nullify the 4th Amendment with the stroke of a pen! I can see the same twisted, bugfuck-insane "logic" declaring that "in time of war" the Press can not be permitted to interfere with the Commander in Chief. Poof!!! There goes the 1st Amendment. (similar "thinking" could be used to nullify, church & state, and peaceable assembly).

Who needs a Constitution when we have an ALL POWERFUL COMMANDER IN CHIEF!


HAIL TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!

HAIL TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!

HAIL TO THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!

Let us bless the Commander In Chief. Oh glorious Conmmander in Chief, hear our prayer...

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Go get 'em JC!

I am very, very wary...

Why in TF would the AG say something so GD'd obviously stupid?? Can there be a deeper motive? Are we being drawn into a policy trap, or can he really be this stupid?

Something smells in Denmark... they have to much to hide to be throwing us a bone like this.

Are they trying to air this shit out in order to pardon the guilty before Bush leaves office?

This is really odd, in my mind.

Same here i went back to the speech McConnell gave and Mukasey statements and almost wonder if this is a limited hangout, where not only the gang of 8 new about the Fisa problems, but ....

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I get tired of this crap and the self-delusion that goes with it. A Congressman writes a letter to a Bush cohort, and the Bush cohort either doesn'tr answer it or comes back with a gobbledegook answer. The Congressman, and the press, and the blogs wring their hands. Nothing gets done except that Congress begins to look stupider and stupider, and more and more easy to avoid. Everybody is way too polite to say, You lied. No one seems to have the strength, the fortitude, the imagination, the bravery, the indignation to really move on someone like Mukasey with a subpoena or sending a Congressional policeman in to arrest the man and make him testify. As far as I'm concerned this is a stupifying crap game played over and over again by a group in Congress that has been revealed as less than half wits.

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I sent the above by e-mail to Conyers. Think it will have any effect? I'd appreciate if those of you who know can tell me who will read it and what will happen as a result of it?

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For bedtime reading, I suggest the following:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_blaine_k_080327_the_fog_of_fisa.htm

Another strongly worded letter. Thank you for playing, John Conyers!

I actually was driving Friday evening and heard the speech made on C-span by Mike McConnell and was taken in by it. The speech encouraged emailing the ndi (so his secretary could take them and handle them for him) and made the claims that are outlined. I was also surprised at the answer to the one kook?? that did ask the question about the research, are you a journalist.. etc.. as "inaudible" in the transcript as well as a redacted email address by the school, which I found interesting, as it had been made by the dni himself as public domain courtesy of c-span. The actual video is linked at my blog.

I listened today and heard Mukasey just before closing that there is still problems with the NSL's.

But what got me was the speech. I mean it was just a moment when your driving along thinking, Thank God for C-span and can I actually be hearing this?

I didn't think that it was right to solicit questions and then be rude to the person who asked the question. There was many ways that handling the question could have been handled graciously, with a simple; "I have no idea of what your talking about" and then a "follow up with this information to my secretary who reads my email at dni@dni.gov" and then take another question.

I felt the speech was at odds with itself, tension that cannot be felt unless you hear the actual audio. I felt also that the statements as far as I was concerned on the pre-911 activity were either a new reason to have an investigation or a false statement.

Again the actual video of the speech is at my blog and if you download to your drive you can fast-forward to hear the anger at the Q&A and the deivery of the content of the speech.

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What with voluntary resignations, "compelled" resignations, and "my-ass-is-out-of-here" resignations, I think this Administration is down to its second- or third-string players.
Heck, Facilitatrix, they started out with second or third string players and it's going down from there.

I wrote "its" players, not all the ones available!

With their criteria for hiring (look at Goodling's requirements), they effectively cut out any first-rate candidates—even if they happened to be Republican.

I'm just rather gratified that the current players can't even be convincing. For easy evidence, look at a clip from a Tony Snow briefing and then watch poor little Dana Perino.

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So much to do:
I believe the first step to putting our country on the right track again is letting the German Justice Minister get his hands on John Yoo; then again, maybe not sending him to Berlin or Bonn, but sending him to the Hague is where he belongs(I wonder if it is possible to have him sent to Nuremburg?). But until then I guess firing him from Berkley will do.
Then getting Attorney General John Mukasey on record and under oath about his mysterious phone call from Afghanistan, which no one can find any record of. Then indicting Alberto Gonzales for malfeasance and perjury. If Mukasey can't prove it, then he should be the next held to account.
Then getting Carl Rove to testify about the Stolen Alabama Governor's Election in 2002, where a 6,000 vote lead by Democrat Don Siegelman in Baldwin County Alabama became a 3,000 vote lead by Republican Bob Riley after Republican Judge Johns sent Democratic Poll Watchers home and conducted a 3rd, illegal vote recount, which was followed by an illegal seizure of the ballots by Alabama Republican Attorney General Bill Pryor.
Then giving Michael Ware of CNN(who was smeared by Drudge), Helen Thomas who was smeared by Tony Snow and Dana Perino and ignored by President Bush for asking questions they were too afraid to answer, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and proving that the spirit of Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite lives on; then giving Admiral Fallon and General Shinseki The Presidential Medal of Freedom for doing their jobs and telling the truth. Proving integrity in public service is still possible.
The lamp of Freedom has not gone out, yet.
Thanks to Glenn Greenwald and Brad Friedman(Brad's Blog) and the currently persecuted Alabama gadfly, Legal Schnauzer, Roger Shuler whose home is being stolen by a Republican Sheriff angry at Shuler defense of Democratic Governor Don Siegelman.
http://l egals chnau zer.blogspot.com/

Come to think of it, firing John Yoo from Berkley sounds like a great start. Crimes Against Humanity sounds like a good ground to fire someone. It worked with Himmler. There is so much we have to do.

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Don't you just love it when a neocon lawyer can just sweep away our 4th Amendment rights with a memo? Wow

And, if I recall my US history, wasn't the 4th established precisely because the people were tired of British soldiers (i.e. MILITARY) barging in to their homes without a warrant?

They're going to have to do a lot better than that to justify their crimes.

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I believe that the NSA has the capability to intercept and store all communication through major telecommunication hubs. If they do not have it today, they are certainly moving towards that goal. So we must assume, as we think about this, that the NSA has this enormous database.

Mukasey and others on the right are defending this capability because it is can be a powerful tool for fighting evil. We on the left are fighting this capability because we believe it can be a powerful tool for promoting evil. The first round went to the left when we voted down the Total Information Awareness program and we let our guard down. The second round has gone to the right when the administration developed it anyway. So we agree it can be a powerful tool, and we are obviously in a fight about it and we are on the ropes.

Where the rubber meets the road is where, when, who and how the data is accessed. The data does not become information until it is organized. Traditional wiretapping takes place in real time, the database can be access after the fact, perhaps far after the fact. That is part of what makes it so powerful. It can also be mined for patterns, or exceptions to patterns. When an evil doer is identified, all his or her social contacts can be identified. Wow!

We need to be proposing adequate legal, administrative and technical paradigms for controlling access to this kind of information. Starting from the assumption that we have a database of everything bypasses the problem of releasing secret information about our actual technical capabilities. Just go for it.

Given we have an enormous historical database of all telecommunicatios: Who should have access to this data? What kinds of security clearances do they need? What relationship does this have to the "unitary executive"? Can the president listen to whatever he deems interesting? What kinds of dataminng are allowed under what kinds of warrents? What warrents are required to blend the information with other government databases?Should there be stages of warrents - one for the pattern searches, a further warrent for narrowing the search, a further warrent for identifying individuals? A further one for actally listening to, transcribing or reading the communications contents. What are the penalties for misuse? Simple unauthorized access ala Obama's or McCain's passports? unauthorized access with minor dissemination to one's spouse? unauthorized access with major dissemination to the media? blackmail? political interference?

And go forth with courage, resisting the temptation to be very afraid.

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