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DoJ Investigators Probing Whether Goodling Fired Lawyer Due to Gay Rumors
The Department of Justice's inspector general continues to conduct its wide-ranging investigation of the U.S. attorney firings and the general politicization of the Department under Alberto Gonzales. And as we reported back in August of last year, one area of focus by investigators is allegedly political hiring practices by Monica Goodling. The inspector general and Office of Professional Responsibility sent out a questionnaire to anyone who had interviewed for a job at the DoJ during Gonzo's tenure. One thing investigators wanted to know about was whether the interviewer had asked about the applicant's sexual orientation.
NPR today provides some more evidence that Goodling and her associates might have decided that being gay was a disqualifier. Leslie Hagen was the liaison between the Justice Department and the U.S. attorneys' committee on Native American issues until her contract was suddenly discontinued in October of 2006.
No one seems to dispute that Hagen was extremely capable. The Department's job evaluation reflected that her performance had been "outstanding." And yet she was fired. Sound familiar?
The difference now is that Gonzales, Goodling, and the others aren't still at DoJ to explain what the "performance related" reasons for Hagen's firing were.
Justice Department e-mails obtained by NPR show that Gonzales's senior counsel Monica Goodling had a particular interest in Hagen's duties....The Justice Department's inspector general is looking into whether Hagen was dismissed after a rumor reached Goodling that Hagen is lesbian.
As one Republican source put it, "To some people, that's even worse than being a Democrat."
Several people interviewed by the inspector general's staff said investigators asked whether people drew a connection between the rumors and Hagen's dismissal....
Someone who worked in Hagen's office says that in a 2006 meeting, senior officials were told that Hagen's contract would not be renewed because someone on the attorney general's staff had a problem with Hagen. The problem, it was suggested during the conversation, was sexual orientation — or what was rumored to be Hagen's sexual orientation.
One person at the meeting asked, "Is that really an issue?" But the decision had been made.













Mary Cheney must be feeling very proud.
April 2, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good grief.
April 2, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her neck, like that of the Coultergeist, looks primed for the guillotine. Let them eat cake.
April 2, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...To some people, that's even worse than being a Democrat..."
Then those "some people" must have been avoiding the West Wing of the White House like the plague.
April 2, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, there is no law to protect gays and lesbians from getting fired from their jobs. It was a tactical error to focus on gay marriage before equal rights IMO.
April 2, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm almost certain there is such a law - at least in CA. Can anyone clarify.
April 2, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is in some states but not in PA.
April 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe in Cali, but there is definitely not a federal law preventing job discrimination based on sexual orientation.
April 2, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here in MA, gays and lesbians are granted protections from discrimination in the workplace, housing, etc; so equal marriage rights was a natural extension. It just pisses me off that so many of our countrymen and women can't recognize the dignity and humanity of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.
April 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
See Executive Order 13087 and the employee manual at http://www.opm.gov/er/address2/Guide04.asp. Current Special Counsel Scott Bloch (a character in his own right, worth googling) has a poor enforcement record on this point, but it has been established for a long time that discrimination against a federal civil servant on the basis of sexual orientation is a prohibited personnel practice.
A lot of readers seem to be confusing government employment with private sector employment.
April 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
While it's beneficial that discrimiation based on sexual orientation is a prohibited practice, note that a mere prohibited practice means that, if it is practiced, the only remedy is reinstatement, and the only punitive result is removal of the responsibile official.
While the attorney who was fired may desire reinstatement, Goodling's gone, so there's no punitive result.
Goodling stood to get into bigger legal trouble by smoking in the DOJ hallways than firing a person who is gay.
April 3, 2008 8:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is amazing to me. Every place I've worked, firing someone is a huge deal...even when $$$ made layoffs (not firing) a necessity it was never done with ease.
That this little twit, with her limited little resume could just casually destroy people's jobs (trust me, when you are fired for no cause, most assume that there is a huge secret that is being withhled that makes the firing justifiable) you can also destroy their careers.
It disgusts me that she'll probably end up protected in some wingnut welfare position for life.
April 2, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is really surprising to me, too. The amount of backup paperwork required to avoid lawsuits when (in normal companies) folks are fired seems entirely missing from the US Attorney firings. I don't know how they get away with this crap.
April 2, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shocking!
Oh, wait, no. Not really.
April 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
What would be shocking is if she were to be forced to choose between spilling the dirty towels to a grand jury or going to jail for this act. But it seems that the AG is not really interested in actually having people take responsibility for their actions, only in running out the clock, and the insiders on both sides of congress seems to be willing to let them.
April 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
and whats really disgusting is that what they did was perfectly legal.
yes. its perfectly legal in the united states of america, where we "hold these truths to be self-evident that all mean are created equal" to fire someone because they're gay.
god bless america.
let's hope enda passes verysoon.
April 2, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
THANK YOU for pointing this unbelievable truth out to those who think the U.S. is oh-so-very-far-beyond all that.
In 31 states it is legal to fire someone just because you think they MIGHT be gay. It's all very McCarthy, isn't it? *rolls eyes scornfully*
April 2, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
What an odious little puke. I suggest the Eighth Circle of Hell for her. Steeped in crap or immersed in a lake of boiling pitch? I'm leaning toward the crap. Poetic justice.
April 2, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Where to begin?
First of all, for those who have posted that it is "perfectly legal" to fire a federal civil servant for being gay, please check out Executive Order 13087 and the employee manual at http://www.opm.gov/er/address2/Guide04.asp.
Second, is there anything to this story other than rumor, triple hearsay, and the richly satisfying confirmation of what readers of this blog wanted to believe in the first place? Seems like pretty thing soup.
April 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the concern, troll. Noted. You can go and play in the catbox with the other Repukes now.
April 2, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Executive Orders are made to be broken, apparently.
April 2, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the IG is investigating it and multiple inside people are willing to comment to NPR on it, there's probably something there. Will it stick? That's never a safe bet with this Teflon Administration.
April 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK folks, it's the the 21st century.
Can we please, please, please pass an equal rights amendment that ensures the rights of all Americans, regardless of gender or sexual orientation?
April 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, DC has a local law against discrimination in hiring for gays and lesbians as do many states. So while it is true that it is legal under federal law to fire someone for being lesbian or gay, it is not legal in DC.
The actual city of DC has very progressive hiring and tenant laws for everyone. It's only the out-of-towners (texans) that suck.
April 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hagen was apparently a contract worker and not a civil servant, therefore the DC law protecting her would be pertinent.
But why should little Monica worry about such mundane matters as the law??? She has more important matters to attend to.
April 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what else should we expect from a no-talent intellectual midget like Goodling? Another fine standard-bearer from a fantastic institution of theocratic learning.
I know a few lesbians that could and would knock the blond off her stupid, stupid head. What a sycophantic pustule! So sorry her "career" has been cut short by her own hackery idiocy.
Quelle dommage! (Wait - is speaking French worse than being gay OR a Democrat?)
April 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
problem was that this was a woman... not that that makes any difference, but what I'm saying is that this bunch of bigoted ass hats will find some way out of is, and as someone mentioned probably have ms goodling a cush little post somewhere.
you know, when we start quibbling over details or technicalities, oh, I don't know, human rights and diginity, or, say torture, you know we are in waaaay too deep to easily extract ourselves.
April 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is it with Republicans and the private sex lives of others? Today the Haters are out to get the homosexuals. Tomorrow it could be the BDSM crowd, or people with foot fetishes, or the men who love sheep (and the women who won't wear wool). Basically, if a Republican in power decides what turns YOU on is aberrant, you could lose everything. As for Goodling, she deserves a sound, protracted thrashing from a big lesbian dominatrix.
April 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'm pretty sure that firing someone for orientation is a no-no in the DOJ. I agree with the above poster -- it IS a no-no in DC.
I kinda wonder how these people are gonna deal with life in 20 or 30 years. I'm older than Goodling, and I gotta tell you that things have radically changed for gays and lesbians since I was a teenybopper. For the better, I must say.
With this on her record, by the time she's 60, she'll be radioactive.
We'll have to see what happens with the investigation. Maybe no time in the pen, but a disbarment could be in her future.
April 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goodling fired Hagen because Jesus and Pat Robertson told her to.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
April 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I pray pray PRAY that the inspector general at DOJ is wise enough to drag out his investigation until a new administration is in place.
All of these inter-related cases involving Gonzo, Rove, Goodling and that bizarre little sub-human Kyle Sampson.... If any sort of heat comes down on these people while Bush is in power, they'll all get blanket pardons.
April 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's make "pretty thing" soup out of her.
April 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
And maybe the next Admin will issue an executive order allowing an outright ban on hiring anyone who came within a mile of Regent University.
April 2, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, they teech 'em good at Regent, ain't they.
April 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is currently no federal law that bars people from discrimination based on sexual orientation.
April 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
How long before we find out that the recently engaged Ms. Goodling has a little lesbian secret of her own?
April 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
mmmm... you think Dear Monica protest too much?
maybe her fiance would care to comment on her sexuality
April 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Imagine if it was a gay Democrat? Goodling's head would have exploded.
April 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think there's a secret Administration memo allowing rendition to Guantanamo in such cases.
April 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goodling fired her because she caused 9/11.
April 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thought you folks would appreciate this re-post of something I originally posted at FDL almost a year ago, then put on my blog (click my name for the URL link).
from Friday, August 10, 2007
Bang Bang, Waxman's Wooden Hammer...
Monica was skeptical,
She was too respectable,
For a real law school.
Late nights all alone back at Regent.
oh oH OH OH!!!
Ky-ull Sampson,
working for the Rovian,
Calls her on the phone.
"Can we get these a-ttorneys fired,
Mon- ick- uh?"
But as they put those names on the list,
A knock comes on the door.
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer
came down upon the desk...
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer
exposed what they had said...
Back in charge again.
Henry deals the cards for them.
Davis (Cannon, Lungren) gets annoyed.
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant Sce, e, e, ene,
He tells Henry "shut-up-and-cut-Monica,
A-break because she's blond,"
Whining when she sobs,
"It must not be So, o, o, o.."
But as she winks at those dirty-old-men,
He lifts the gavel high...
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer
Came down upon the desk.
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer,
Henry, you're the best!
P.C. BLOGOSPHERE-
said, "We found a secret here."
Henry stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures.
OOH -AHH, Uh Oh!!
Joe and Valerie, standing in the gallery
Watched old Scoot go free..
The judge does not agree
and he tells them So, o, o, o.
But as the cast walks out of the court,
A noise comes from behind.
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer
Came down, that tough old slueth.
Bang! Bang! Waxman's wooden hammer
Made sure we knew the truth..
Whoa, oh, oh, oh. Wooden hammer.
April 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genius.
April 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm.
While I don't disagree that Goodling seems to have focused on Hagen's sexual orientation, I have to caution those of us who assume that's the whole story.
It may have been the excuse, rather than the cause.
What was Hagen working on?
Any malfeasance ever happen at the Dept. of Indian Affairs? (rhetorical question!!111!)
Having seen some of Monica's testimony, I would not be surprised if she and her cohorts were already looking for something on Hagen that could plausibly be accepted as a cause, for use as a smokescreen.
April 2, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I want to know is when is Goodling going to be disbarred? She admitted in her Congressional testimony that she committed criminal acts.
Of course, if she can be convicted of criminal acts that she didn't testify about, all the better.
April 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
To lower the hackles a bit, we readers are getting sucked into rhetoric that really isn't representative, based on a few key words and little proof, despite what we all want to be outraged about.
She wasn't fired for being gay. Sensational headlines aside, her contract was not renewed. I am a government contractor also. I have had several contracts not renew. That doesn't mean I was ever fired. The stilted, half-story is that this nice, defenseless (maybe gay) woman was suddenly, unexpectedly jobless. We do not know if this is true, and as such, this is a Faux-news style report that unfortunately we readers have become too good at picking apart. In reality, we have a sharp, knowledgeable DOJ-experienced (maybe gay) lawyer that would sue the crap out of the place if there was actual civil rights infringement or labor law violation.
Speaking from experience, there is not a federal contractor in the country that should expect long-term status with a client beyond the term of the existing contract. That is defined as an employee. I doubt the reason cited for non-renewal was "gay", though no reason needs to be given. Could actually be that no government need continued or that a government employee was able to take on the task.
I just reread your story sources... A person that knew a person suggested that some other person remembered that someone said that she had a problem with someone else's sexuality. That's what you are running with?? And no investigation by you about contract, follow-on by someone else (or government employee), who was cited present at this meeting, etc.? You are just seeking a reaction, not reporting news. The DOJ, nor most courts cannot use this as evidence, nor sourced as such. So why is a huge headline here about Gay Firings at DOJ? That's not even accurate. Perhaps you folks are putting on a bow-tie and we are gonna see a TPM 360 soon?
I don't like supporting Gonzo cronies, so please stop this. There is enough actual illegal activity out there. You don't need to stretch for this.
April 2, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, no, of course it wasn't. (Did you actually listen to the NPR story? You should.)
The reason they gave was the same one they gave in a number of the USAttorney firings: that they wanted to free up the position to allow others the chance to add the position to their resume. But in fact, others in that same office had their contracts renewed, and Hagen's position remained vacant for months after she was fired. So the reason they gave doesn't hold up too well, not even as well as in some of the USA firings it was used for, where we are pretty sure it was just the cover story, not the real reason.
I understand your skepticism, but given the record of this administration, and of this Justice Department and Monica Goodling in particular, I think it is not unreasonable to assume bad faith on their part absent proof to the contrary.
And like a lot of others here, I really, really want to see that little pissant Monica Goodling permanently disbarred. She has no business whatsoever in the administration of justice. She does not know the meaning of the word.
April 2, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This woman has a somewhat pretty face and an ugly black soul.She will suffer consequences for her mean-spirited way at some later point in her life.It`s called karma,or what goes around comes around.I`ts amazing how people lose their looks as Karma takes its toll.Look at Rush.No matter how much make up you put on an asshole it will always be an asshole.
April 2, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neither unexpected or unusual... this might actually help in the deep base - let alone become a good stalling tactic along w/ Johnson and who knows what else is gonna pop up.
April 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, if you're a lesbian and you align yourself with this administration, you pretty much deserve what you get.
April 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't condone what Monica Goodling is said to have done (or what she has acknowledged doing). But the scale of the damage done by Monica Goodling seems to me infinitely smaller than that done by the smiling Doug Feith, who is now said to have opined that anyone concerned about torture was "siding with the assholes." By whom, when, is Mr. Feith going to be investigated (along with Mr. Yoo and the lawyers who "visitied Gitmo" to take down some ideas that they'd received?
April 2, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree Hector. However, Feith is gone. The damage he caused can be addressed by a Democratic President and a Democratic majority in Congress.
The Bush Administration has spent 8 years populating The Federal Government with Goodlings. True believers loyal to causes we don't believe in. Not only will they bury the dirt but they also won't be in a very big hurry to help turn this country around. They like where we were headed under Bush.
Unlike Republicans, Democrats cannot and will not hire and appoint government officials purely on the basis of the conservative, partisan and religious bona fides. It's going to take years and years to root this cancer out. It's just the way the GOP wants it.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
April 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
It seems members of the Bush administration never do the right thing.
Monica is alleged to be some kind of Christian. I wonder if she ever heard "do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" She certainly doesn't love her neighbors as she loves herself.
April 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Monica Goodling: poster child for the banality of evil.
April 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
April 3, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
To say that something like this has actually happened is not suprising what bothers me more is that the DOJ is doing the investigation
April 3, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink