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Group Missed Oregon Primary Deadline, Too

As an update to my earlier post on the Women's Vote Women's Voices calls, we can show you an example of the voter registration packet the group has been sending out.

Thanks to TPM Reader PC, here is a mailer received by a reader in Oregon, one of the 24 states (pdf) where the group has sent mailers.

The mailer was addressed to PC's wife, and he says she received not one but two copies. He also notes that the mailer arrived just as the deadline to register in Oregon's presidential primary passed. That's been a persistent problem for the group, not only in North Carolina, but also in Virginia and Wisconsin. Wisconsin officials even issued a press release lecturing the group on its methods, saying that the forms would create more confusion and that voters who needlessly registered twice would have to re-register at the polling place because they'd registered past the primary deadline (Wisconsin allows same-day registration). "It's unfortunate that such groups do not inform voters of our deadlines," said Kevin Kennedy, director of the state Government Accountability Board.

So while the spokeswoman for the group told me that the North Carolina calls and mailers were a mix up, it seems that the group has gotten mixed up a number of times before.

Update: As Facing South notes, the mailers originally had language saying that recipients were "required" to mail back the form. That language was dropped after complaints in a number of states and from a number of state officials.


Comments (55)

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Sounds a lot like the "mix-ups" are intentional.

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It's just so hard to look up the deadlines and not use a fake person named Lamont to lead your registration campaign!

Does anyone think Mike Lux's denial actually makes this worse for Hillary?

I looked up the group, being suspicious, and they seem to have a lot of credibility.

But have they "outsourced" their robo-calls and mailings?

Is it too much to wonder if they did if the people doing this for them have been infiltrated by some Rovians?

I wish I could chalk it all up to paranoia. But the people running the group (see http://www.wvwv.org/about/board-and-bios ) are either longtime Dem supporters or seemingly above reproach. They don't seem to be the types to fuck up something this important.

Has someone malicious thrown a spanner in their works?

Love the unintended irony: the people running WVWV are "either longtime Dem supporters or seemingly above reproach."
Pick one. No, that's just snark.
But seriously, Mike Lux (who I believe backs Obama) vouching for his fellow board members just doesn't cut it. Concealing the source of such a robocall is a FELONY, for God's sake.
Lux admits he wasn't in the loop, having just learned of the controversy today. He's promised to look into it.
Why hasn't the board he sits on looked into the very serious complaints the group has received in 11 previous states?
I don't buy the incompetence excuse one bit.

If it jumps out and hits us on the head, then maybe we will recognize the real agenda here.

I still want to know who got the calls/who got the packets/and who scheduled the cals and the mailings.

If there was EVER a sneaky way to keep voters from the polls, and just look like a mismanaged non-proifit, this fits the bill.

And the connections to Clinton's campaign are more than worrisome, it's one more nail in the coffin of Clinton-respect so many of us will bury this year.

Unfortunately it is not the last one, by any means.

"Primary Colors" may have been more accurate than I have been willing to admit.

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The smoking gun would be their mailing/call lists. I wonder if the USPS would keep records pertaining to these mass mailings?

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The USPS requires payment when they receive the mailer. They will probably resist sharing them, as a matter of mail privacy.

WVWV will also have records. Probably not checks or credit card payments to USPS, but payments to a mailing house itemized as to where the mailings were going.

Mike Lux, as a board member, should demand copies and release them.

Maggie Williams, as a former leader with the group, should back the request.

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It's hard to tell if this is major incompetence or maliciousness.

I'm wondering now if those calls from 'Lamont' were actually from WVWV, because I have a hard time believing that any GOTV group could have that much trouble with deadlines and targetting.

WVWV concedes the "Lamont" calls were from them. They have offered no explanation for using a fake name, or for not identifying their group on the calls.

Maliciousness or incompetence? God, I'm so tired of wondering this, aren't you?? We've had almost 8 years of being told by the Bush Administration that they're not malicious--just incompetent!

I don't believe it from Bush and the GOP, and I don't believe it from the people behind this bullshit either.

In the comments in the first WVWV article, their spokeswoman Sarah wrote: "Unfortunately when working at such a high volume, we could not tailor our mailings around each state’s primary or caucus schedule."

But, of course, all of the mailings had to be tailored for each state. These were not generic forms. These are specific to Oregon. She's claiming they can manage tailoring the printing, but not the timing?

Disingenuous, at best.

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I am not sure how many people have listened to the call (audio available here) but not only are the vast majority of people named "Lamont" African-American, but I am willing to bet that the caller is African-American as well. Of course, it is possible that I'm mistaken here, and I would be interested to hear what others have to say on the subject.

If I'm right, it really begs the question: why would an organization whose purpose is to convince women to register to vote use an African-American man, with a traditionally African-American name for their illegal robo-calls?

Even if I'm wrong, I am utterly convinced that this was an insidious attempt on the part of Hillary Clinton's supporters, and possibly Clinton herself, to suppress the African-American vote in North Carolina. The overwhelming weight of circumstantial evidence points to this conclusion.

The attempts of Women's Voices Women Vote to brush this incident off by citing its own (literally criminal) incompetence are not convincing anybody. They are amusing, however - it is always amusing to watch people struggle vainly to defend the indefensible after they have been caught red-handed.

I'm the "PC" who sent in the scan of this mailing. When my wife received it in yesterday's mail, the post offices here had already closed. Yesterday was Oregon's registration deadline for the primary.

As to why we were targeted for this mailing, I won't venture to guess. But I can note this: we're in Portland, under 40, and our neighborhood has many Obama yard signs. I haven't seen any for McCain or Clinton.

Yet another incredible aspect of WVWV's cover story is the notion that the group they claim to be trying to target for registration -- young, unmarried women -- trends toward Obama.

Your post interests me, though. I thought, based on "Lamont Williams" and the long GOP history of vote-suppression, that they were targeting only African-American voters for their deceitful tactics. But apparently they're trying to sow vote-suppressing confusion in mostly-white Portland, OR, too. Apparently, I underestimated the cross-racial breadth of WVWV's tactical approach.

The silver lining to this story, though: using GOP tactics to suppress African-American votes? Not so much a winning strategy with Democratic politicians like the superdels, I have to think ...

I didn't see young, unmarried women as the target only; they seem largely to be pursuing single mothers.

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I've been staring at the mailer for a while.

On the first page, there's an address blacked out, but the zip code is there.

On the second page, when it says "If you've moved from" there's an address blacked out again, from a different zip code.

Is the second one an address where you used to live?

They say they use the USPS change of address database. So they're targeting folks that have moved.

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Don't you think they probably use a generic call center that does the recording and the mass-calling? I doubt they hand selected the voice behind the message.

And to the comment from PJ above, this is a small nonprofit org.

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They spent $4.7 million in 2006. It's in their tax return.

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They spent $225,854 on focus groups and polling. I don't think you drop that kind of money and then leave the identity/voice of the caller up to a "generic call center."

The fact that this organization is "nonprofit" is completely irrelevant. As far as I know, "independent" political organizations are always not-for-profit. Are you implying that because they aren't trying to make a financial profit they are incapable of attempting to confuse likely Obama voters?

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no, I was implying that they are a small nonprofit, with small being the important word. I think it's very believable that a small org working on such a massive mailing/voter reg campaign could mess up.

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Even a "small" non-profit should be able to learn when registration deadlines are. Even a "small" non-profit would take extra steps to ensure clarity and timeliness after "screwing the pooch" in 10 previous states.

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Really? Define small. As I said, they spent over $200,000 on polling and focus groups alone.

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Small as in number of staff. I'm sure they're funding goes to companies that do focus groups, call centers, mail houses, etc., but the staff is small and the voter campaign is massive. And while I don't know the size of their budget, with $200K in focus groups and $770K in calls, I doubt the org has a total budget of much more than $1 million, which is small.

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How small is the staff, and where did you find this information?

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See post above: $4.7 million in 2006 alone.

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According to the organization's 990 filing, they have used the following company to do telemarketing work ($770,000 worth!) in the past years:

Integral Resources Inc
1972 Massachusetts Ave
Cambridge, MA 02140

Someone want to call them up and ask for Leroy?

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Err, make that "Lamont"

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As a footnote,

The CEO of Integral Resources is Ron Rosenblith. He's donated $1000 to Clinton.

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Let's up the ante, then.

Integral's CEO Rosenblith apperars to be MARRIED to WVWV director Page Gardner.

They list the same residential address (Darnall Drive, McLean, VA) for their recent FEC contributions to Hillary's campaign.

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Here's an article that makes note of Rosenblith's marriage to Gardner.

Rosenblith is also noted as a Kerry campaign consultant.

Bet they're going to have a talk at the dinner table tonight!

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So, to recap, it's possible that the husband of WVWV Founder/President Paige Gardner owns the company that did the offensive robocalls.

If Integral is the company that made the calls, that is.

Considering that WVWV used integral extensively ($770,000) in 2006, I'd say it's very possible.

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BUT HOLD ON A MOMENT....

It appears as though Barack Obama's campaign is using that company, Integrated Resources, to fundraise...

Just what have we got here?

http://www.culturekitchen.com/taxonomy/term/2805

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And apparently, Integrated Resources Inc offended the person in that story linked above with a farcical, mismatched racial profile voice.

The Obama Campaign is down for $140k to Integrated Resources in this report.

Sounds like bad luck to me.

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The fact that the author in that article believes she was targeted on basis of race would seem to be consistent with the complaints regarding the character "Lamont Williams".

God, what DC bullshit. Honey, why don't you form a political organization with a seemingly legitimate objective, raise lots of money and use it to give my company a big contract! Just make sure to get a bunch of big name board members who are part of the game!

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Why does Josh Marshall's TPM post linked with this one say that on the face of it the robocalls were just a screwup? No callerID and the use of a phony-named, clearly African American man's voice on the call, and the lack of any reference to the general election? What does that have to do with women's voter registration? The history of investigations and reprimands in states all across the country? The clear and deep connection to Maggie Williams and other staffers from Hillaryland and Billostan? Those robocalls look a lot like a felony from here, not a mistake, and part of a clear pattern.

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Agreed. The fact that none of the articles on TPM mention the clear Clinton connections raises some obvious questions.

Are Josh Marshall and Paul Kiel merely frightened that the Clinton campaign will puff itself up in pretended anger as it has done so many times in the past months?

If not, it is only reasonable to assume that Marshall and Kiel deliberately omitted these facts because they didn't want their readers to know the whole story.

Not to go too far off-topic, but we are playing in the field that Josh built in his backyard, with balls, bats and gloves he's provided.
Challenge the odd call if you like -- I have -- but don't accuse the ump of bad faith. This is supposed to be a friendly game.
Most posters here are (like me) pro-Obama, so Josh and his staff take a lot of heat when they bend over backward to appear even-handed to the Clinton faction. But this forum remains an open, democratic (and essentially Democratic) one -- where the best arguments win.
The threads still lead where they lead. Try to appreciate what we share here.

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I'm sorry. I wasn't properly mindful of the fact that we are in Josh Marshall's cyber-playground.

Are you saying that all mention of Clinton was omitted from the article because of the need to "appear even-handed"?

If not, please explain yourself.

By my count, this "article," as you put it, is one of at least eight separate TPM posts (including three on the front page)discussing this issue or linking to other posts.
One titled By Hook or Crook links directly to the original Facing South expose, which lays out links to the Clintons. (This post has the same link, if you didn't notice.)
To get the whole picture, you have to read them all, as well as the comments at DailyKos.
Commenters can connect the dots as they see fit; it's not Josh's job to judge.
On top of which, there's now a criminal investigation under way.

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I am just not sure how anything you just wrote is relevant in any way. I would respond to it if I could follow the tangled threads of your argument, but it appears you don't have one.

Most egregious in this regard is your statement that "there's now a criminal investigation under way [sic]." Are you saying that it would be inappropriate for members of the press to comment on an ongoing criminal investigation? How profoundly laughable.

Well, let me try one last time.
First off, let me state clearly: I wholeheartedly back Barack Obama, I think this voter suppression tactic stinks to high heaven, and I'm deeply suspicious that it's linked to Hillary Clinton supporters, if not to the actual Clinton campaign. (See my previous comments if you doubt my word.)
My objection is to your conclusion that it's "only reasonable to assume that Marshall and Kiel deliberately omitted these facts because they didn't want their readers to know the whole story."
Eight separate posts within 24 hours, links to other websites that detail those Clinton links, ongoing updates by Josh and Kiel, open threads that now include hundreds of comments (including yours), the opportunity to post your own (instant and uncensored) reader blog: given all that, your suggestion that "they didn't want their readers to know the whole story" is what is laughable.
If you have any facts that you have uncovered elsewhere, and which you think need to be disseminated to TPM readers, blog them.
Do it right here. Or start your own thread.
When I mentioned the fact that a criminal investigation has been started, I was pointing to the cumulative effect of all the websites that have jumped on this story: Facing South, TPM, DailyKos, Huffington Post. And now that the N.C. attorney general has stepped in, it will become a story in the mainstream media.
TPM and its reader-participants have played a big role in getting the story out there.
Do you recall Alberto Gonzales? With TPM at the forefront, the blogosphere pushed the USAG firings story into the mainstream and eventually pushed him out of office.
I don't need Josh Marshall to validate my position on any particular issue; the mere fact that he maintains this open forum for dialogue and argument -- on whatever issue anyone thinks appropriate -- makes him one of my heroes.
I often disagree with his take on things, and I gleefully joined in pillorying Greg Sargent for his recent Fox News hissy fit.
But I appreciate the unique opportunity this site affords us. BTW, don't take your First Amendment rights for granted.

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You are wrong. Reading the news is not a "connect the dots" experience. It is not a "read all the links" experience. If it were, then only the link would have been provided, since the FacingSouth article contained all of the relevant facts. However, when a journalist omits some facts, and includes others, it raises questions about that journalist's impartiality.

I am not saying Marshall or Kiel are pro-Clinton. But, using your own words from above, I am questioning whether their move was a deliberate attempt to "bend over backwards to appear even-handed," without actually being even-handed.

On a more personal note, you might want to think about toning down your self-righteous shtick. You can't petulantly object to my using the word "article" and then posture as a clear-headed, enlightened voice of reason by spouting phrases like "try to appreciate what we share here."

Most confusing to me was "BTW, don't take your First Amendment rights for granted." I can think of only two possible interpretations:

1. This is a threat. You are some kind of moderator on this discussion board and this is your coded way of telling me that if I continue to disagree with you, you will censor me.

2. You have somehow convinced yourself that by disagreeing with you, I am abusing my rights under the First Amendment.

I am not trying to be provocative, here. I actually have no idea what else you could have meant. If neither of these interpretations is correct, then perhaps you should refrain from making unexplained, unsupported, sweeping statements in your future posts.

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Citoyene92,

Actually, that telemarketer has a Raleigh call center too, according to the web site. I really doubt Lamont works there, but it is worth asking.

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Why on earth would Lux remain on the board of an organization that is, at best, incompetent and, at worst, nefarious?

The website listed in the scanned mailer has all voter registration deadlines listed by state. The website also clearly represents itself as part of WVWV> the organization absolutely had the correct information necessary to mail information prior to the deadline.

The WVWV website takes a great amount of pride in their lists, making a point of noting their greater accuracy than those available on the open market. They describe methodology for scrubbing their lists of inaccuracies, as well as combining census info and commercial info to include race and income level, and marital status. They also apparently make their lists available for free to other 501C3 entities, and charge a paltry $200 to others.

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Why send out mailers and make phone calls when it's too late?

Anyone want to pony up the $200 for one of their lists?

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Missing the registration deadline in Oregon isn't the only thing they flubbed. Under "Special Instructions for Oregon Registrants," we are informed that a first-time voter "MUST bring to the polls identification with your name and address."

Considering that Oregon votes entirely by mail, and there aren't any "polls" to bring identification to, this instruction is very, very special indeed.

Thanks for your assistance, WVWV. I Feel the Power already!

Anyone else think that WVWV's Nancy McDonald is also a YouTube debate questioner?

http://www.secureourfuture.org/election08obama.php

This is Nancy McDonald from Wilmington, Delaware.We all know that Social Security is running out of money, but people who earn over $97,500 stop paying into Social Security. What is up with that?

from her bio on WVWV:

She lives in Delaware and chairs the YWCA Delaware Leadership League which helps women at all stages of their careers become politically, socially and economically empowered. She also teaches part-time at Wilmington College in addition to her role in Women's Voices. Women Vote.

Also a person by the same name posted a few comments on BlogHer or something about the YouTube debate stats.

http://www.blogher.com/got-something-your-mind-say-it-loud

Might be nothin', might be the culprit. I dunno.

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The organization identified by the mailer is Voter Participation Center, with an address in Boston. At their website, they identify themselves (barely) as a part of WVWV. They claim to be registering unmarried persons, whose names and information have been gleaned (“using a sophisticated matching process”) from consumer data lists compared to voter registration lists. In a later FAQ, they say that they have used U.S. Postal System’s National Change of Address Registry. If this is true, I’m very unhappy to know that it is available to the whole world.

To the question “Do you sell my name or have information about me?” they provide a dodge: “The voter registration forms are not opened by staff at the Voter Participation Center. They are either mailed directly to your voting official or they are collected and delivered directly to your voting official without ever being opened.” Veronica, above, says that the lists are available for sale and for free.

Of particular interest to me – the “Rock the Vote” registration form has a “most important issue” menu, which includes (among others): small government, immigration reform, moral values, abortion, same-sex marriage, gun control. Whether these come from WVWV or Rock the Vote, all I can say is nice Republican framing.

That's a standard Rock the Vote form (go to RocktheVote.org and look), and it has lots of other issues like Globalization and Poverty on the list.

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When I was growing up in Portland in the 1970's, it was indeed "mostly white" and de facto segregated. There were bus stops downtown that I thought of as "black" because it seemed to me that only black people ever waited at these stops (if you're a Portlander, these were the purple raindrop bus stops). It is only recently that I have begun to learn why this was (redlining, etc).

In any event, much of zip code 97212 was historically African-American and despite gentrification still has patches that I would think of today as being mostly African-American. If you Google Maps it, you'll see streets like MLK Boulevard, Williams, Alberta, Killingsworth. It's "close-in Northeast." It's where the Nike outlet is, and Jefferson High School is just north of it in 97217. (If you're not a Portlander, I am speaking here in a polite code to indicate that I am talking about areas of Portland thought of by just about everyone I know here as mostly African-American.)

For the record, I now live in the suburbs and it's a lot more integrated here -- we see kids of many different races playing together in the street, which is progress.

If you wanted to drop a mailing that would accidentally-on-purpose go to a higher percentage of black people than if you sent it to all of Portland, or Portland metro area overall, you could do a lot worse than starting with the Jefferson High School district.

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The WEST suburbs. On the east side, Parkrose seems to have gotten a lot of immigration and more diversity, but if there are lots of African-Americans in East County, I haven't heard of it. Not to dis East County, just stating a fact.

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Jeez it takes a lot of gullibility to write all this off as an "innocent" mistake -- again and again and again. "Sure we're in the voter registration business. We just forgot to look up the deadlines. And then we used a male caller to encourage women to register. Isn't that how anyone would do it?"

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