« previous | MUCK HOME | next »
One Policy, Two Stories
As I noted earlier, as outrageous as John Yoo's memo itself is, the process by which it came to be implemented is remarkable in its own right.
As Jane Mayer reported in The New Yorker two years ago, Yoo's March, 2003 memo to Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes came to be implemented by a two-faced process.
In part to satisfy internal administration critics of the Pentagon's interrogation program at Guantanamo Bay, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in 2003 convened a "working group" of lawyers from all branches of the armed services to develop new interrogation guidelines. That group included Alberto Mora, the former general counsel of the U.S. Navy, who outlined his efforts to prevent the use of torture in a 22-page memo (pdf) that was ultimately made public, and who was the focus of Mayer's piece.
But Yoo's memo, issued shortly after the working group began meeting, pretty much determined the direction of where the working group would end up. While Mora and other lawyers concerned about the use of torture were able to see a draft version of the working group's report, Rumsfeld ultimately signed a final version of the report without the knowledge of several lawyers who were ostensibly its authors. That report was then related to Major General Geoffrey Miller, who was then in command of Gitmo. Soon after, the Pentagon sent him to Iraq to advise officials there on interrogating Iraqi detainees.
At the same time, Haynes publicly assured Congress and human rights groups in a June 25, 2003 letter that "it is the policy of the United States to comply with all its legal obligations in its treatment of detainees." The Pentagon had not authorized the use of torture, or cruel, inhumane, or degrading treatment. Mora told Mayer that after he saw Haynes' letter, he'd "sent an appreciative note to Haynes, saying that he was glad to be on his team."
Mayer writes:
Without Mora's knowledge, the Pentagon had pursued a secret detention policy. There was one version, enunciated in Haynes's letter to Leahy, aimed at critics. And there was another, giving the operations officers legal indemnity to engage in cruel interrogations, and, when the Commander-in-Chief deemed it necessary, in torture. Legal critics within the Administration had been allowed to think that they were engaged in a meaningful process; but their deliberations appeared to have been largely an academic exercise, or, worse, a charade.
Marty Lederman, writing today, asks:
When will Congress insist upon hearings at which Geoffrey Miller, Jim Haynes, Donald Rumsfeld, and other DOD officials, explain why they kept the Yoo memo and the Working Group Report secret -- undisclosed even to the Working Group itself -- and why they briefed Miller on Yoo's multiple theories of legal absolution on his way out to Iraq?













IT will take a new Atty Gen., one with the stones to do what is right along with a new Pres., that is not going to feed us some drivel about this being a time for the country to heal as Ford did when Pardoning Nixon. Since we already have seen how Bill Clinton let Bush Sr. and his cronys off the hook, to believe that Hillary would act any different would be insane. I had thought that Edwards would do the right things along these lines but since he stepped down it will now fall on Obama. I wish I had confidence that he will act in the best interest of the USA by bring charges of War Crimes, but I have my doubts.
April 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
America's healing cannot begin until war crimes are brought.
Pax,
M.
April 2, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen.
April 2, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cosigned
April 2, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear Hear!!
April 3, 2008 2:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
No lawyer here, but won't the administration claim state secrets or exec privilege on all this stuff in, like, two seconds flat?
April 2, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Timing is critical. It has to be done when no pardon is forthcoming from W. This is reasonable as material such as the Yoo memo are just coming out. The case will take time to build, and there are only 10 months more of this disasterous presidency.
It will be very difficult to defend a claim of exececutive priv. when your exec is not in office, and the evidence is already in the public domian.
Pax,
M.
April 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The VF article linked on the TPM main page should be consulted here -- Philippe Sands goes deeply into the origins of the memos.
Short answer: Rumsfeld wanted torture, and he got it.
April 2, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this isn't an impeachable offense, then I'm not sure what is.
Will we ever get back a responsible and functioning government?
April 2, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, around the time we get a responsible and functioning electorate. 50 million people voted for Bush... twice. The media has failed us and our parties are hopelessly corporatized... but even that does not explain away the catastrophic fuck-up of 50 million people pulling the lever or pushing the touchscreen for George W. Bush, who would not even be entrusted with the responsibilities of a junior dogcatcher in any rational society.
April 2, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
You asked what is an impeachable offense?
Lying about an extramarital affair with an intern!
That's definitely grounds for impeachment and apparently, nothing else!
April 2, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama keeps the kumbya going. He doesn't have a mean streak wide enough to uncover and publish all the war criinality, domestic criminality, international criminality or immorality conducted by this administration and the Congress when it had the majority. Clinton could but wouldn't No matter how cretinous the activity it will never come to light with an Obama or Clinton administration. "Bringing the Country together" and "starting the healing process" are just bullshit phrases to take care of the perpetrators. They definately take care of each other. Why do you think they prostitute themselves to get these jobs? None have a soul. Thank God for Atheism.
April 2, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
UC Berkeley--Fire John Yoo, he's a disgrace to your law school
April 2, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This has always been the administration's policy. They say "we don't torture," but they reserve the right to define torture as any cruel and abusive technique they are not already using. But it should also be recognized that this wink and a nod to torture is also reflected in public opinion.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10345320/
We get the government we deserve.
April 2, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just started readying the Vanity Fair article and had to stop. I can't believe this has happened to my country. These people aren't even Americans as far as I'm concerned.
And if anything ever happens to these guys I will be very very (pleasantly) surprised. Addington alone should be hung for treason, but instead he has a very lucrative career ahead of him.
April 2, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, wow! That prostitution story about Stabenow's husband will backpage all the ugly Yoo torture memo stuff for our "pals @ MSNBC" Chris Matthews & friends. And all other mainstream (tv) media for the rest of the week will get to focus on a sex scandal, their fav thing.
So extremely convenient. And so we lose '08. Wake up, Dem leadership.
April 2, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. It seems that the only thing that can save us now is an overwhelming military defeat. Hopefully another nation can rise up and crush us, because 50 million Kool Aid addicts will never surrender.
April 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am too disgusted by this to say anything snarky.
Of course Bush & Cheney should be impeached for this. Authorizing the use of torture!
Impeach Rumsfeld retroactively. He still would lose very much for this. Besides - it's the right thing to do.
Write/call your Congressional Representative.
Write/call your Senators.
REPEAT
Continue until they actually do something about this.
April 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
SmileySam @12:33, "I wish I had confidence that [Obama]will act in the best interest of the USA by bring charges of War Crimes, but I have my doubts."
I'm with you, but it's not going to happen. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales and a host of their supporters, all war criminals, including heads of the CIA, FBI and other federal agencies will all walk away free.
And to show us just how poor their ethics are, big corporations and universities will hire every damned one of them because of the connections they have "back in Washington".
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
April 2, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree'd. And whether Obama wants it or not, WE need to demand it, for OURSELVES, screw the politicians or the media, complicit as they are.
April 2, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The good thing about these memos and the legal posturing that goes with them is that the next president (in theory at least) wouldn't have to worry about any stinking pardons. Just declare the lot of them enemy combatants and have done with it.
April 2, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The next president will have to have "Truth commission" like in South Africa just to clear the air after this lot. There are just too many criminals to try and prosecute them all.
April 3, 2008 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink