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Whatever fellow said "ask and you shall receive" never tried to get anything out of the Bush administration.
More than six years after the administration initiated its now infamous battery of policies to fight the global war on terror, there is still a pitched battle over whether certain details can be released. Just earlier this month, there were new revelations about the involvement of senior administration officials in crafting the CIA's interrogation program, and the release of John Yoo's 2003 memo authorizing the military's use of torture shocked even those who didn't think they could be shocked any more.
The latest: Amnesty International USA, the Center for Constitutional Rights, and the International Human Rights Clinic at NYU School of Law teamed up to press in a lawsuit for the release of documents related to the administration's programs of secret detentions, renditions, and torture. Now the CIA has replied that it has 7,000 responsive documents that it won't be turning over. Among them:
Nineteen of those documents were withheld from disclosure specifically because the Bush administration decided they are covered by a "presidential communications privilege," according to the filings, made in federal court in Manhattan. Some were "authored or solicited and received by the President's senior advisors in connection with a decision, or potential decision, to be made by the president."Although the precise content of the documents is unknown, the agency's statements illustrate the extent to which senior White House officials were involved in decision-making on CIA detentions, interrogations, and renditions, a term for forced transfers of prisoners.
Among the protected documents are "dozens" of communications between the CIA and the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, John Yoo's old shop, otherwise known as the place where a fellow can get himself an "advance pardon." The CIA refuses to turn those documents over, but it's candid about what they were all about:
"The CIA's purpose in requesting advice from OLC was the very likely prospect of criminal, civil, or administrative litigation against the CIA and CIA personnel who participate in the Program," said a declaration from Ralph S. DiMaio, information review officer for the CIA's clandestine service. He added that the CIA considered such proceedings "to be virtually inevitable."
You can see the few documents that the groups were able to get from the CIA here.













So...once again...we are all mislead by the usual MISINFORMATION based on a LACK OF INFORMATION.
Bob Dylan sang, "...look out kid, they keep it all hid...".
I can tell you what some of those memos are about:
--WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE FACTS IN MY 47 PAGE US DOJ OIG COMPLAINT that includes THE ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE ARREST WARRANT FOR MIAMI FBI AGENT TERRY NELSON'S MONTANA DRUG PIPELINE into GOP Gov MARC RACICOT'S domain;
--THE EVENTUAL FEAR THAT MY CIVIL SUIT WOULD EXPOSE AND ENLIGHTEN OUR BOGUS PUNK CLOWN MAINSTREAM MEDIA into considering THE 3 SOUTH DAKOTA MURDERS facilitated by NSA 902nd Counterintel Groups' SIGINT using the CALEA computerized wiretap interface;
--THE MURDER OF A PREGNANT CHRISTIAN HOUSEWIFE NAMED CHRISTINA MOORE (Round Rock, Texas, 9/23/03) by the same NSA TSP merc's who were sent after me when I lived in Austin, Texas, from 1/93--3/3/01;
--MURDER AND ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE OF DASCHLE'S EX CHIEF OF STAFF, RICHARD GORDON, lately of Custer, SD, before he died from a mysterious brain tumor caused by The CIA Torture murder weapon called DEW (Directed Energy WEapon that focuses microwave radiation to induce brain strokes, brain tumors, and misdiagnosed symptomology);
--CONSPIRACIES TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, AND CONGRESS when a Senate Jud Comm witness named THOMAS S. BEAN contacted Sen. Grassley with a 10 page memo that outlined the FBI's overt acts as part of conspiracies to violate TITLE 18 USC SECTIONS 241, 242, 1512,1513, 2510--ET AL.;
--The Mexican Mafia Murder info from former austin recovering junkie GEORGE REYES, and the use of illegally obtained info by Sioux Falls FBI cowardly lying punks DAVE "f---face" HELLER, and little tough guy jerk DANNY "sh--head" REYNALDS;
--THE OBSTRUCTION OF SD US ATTY MICHELLE TAPKEN'S GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION when Miers and Bolten colluded with SD ATTY GEN LARRY "buttnutt" LONG to coerce Tapken by "targeting her son for a bogus SD AG investigation" into alleged criminal fraud surrounding The Dan Nelson Automotive Loan business that Tapken's son administered;
--OBSTRUCTION OF MINNEAPOLIS FBI'S INVESTIGATION OF ME, when CIA/NSA (?) illegally monitored DR. MARK GORDON IN HIS HOME WITH A PIN HOLE SPY CAMERA AND ALSO FRIED GORDON WITH A DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON (same thing used to murder Dr. Gordon's brother RICH GORDON);
--and a whole lot more.
April 24, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Readers curious about the Freedom of Information Act might want to read this article discussing the law and some of its limitations.
April 24, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really don't care how long it takes, but I want the next administration to hunt down these torturing, Constitution-hating bastards down and make certain they have enough legal bills to make their defense-contracting jobs still fall short. And not to put too fine a point on it: I don't really believe we can count on Sen. McCain to get to the bottom of this garbage. Oh, I know the Republicans will try to say "We've moved on," but if the rest of the world watches a new administration come in and sweep this under the first rug it can find, then they'll begin to suspect we're not as worshipful of liberty as we've always portrayed ourselves to be.
April 24, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, thomasBean - you may be perfectly sane for all I know, but using all those caps makes you look like a crazy man.
April 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not a problem. None will be pardoned before Bush leaves, so they can all be prosecuted by the next Democratic administration. If we want to avoid the long drawn out trial, the next Democratic president can simply declare them enemy combatants and render them to Syria.
April 24, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Long Memory writes:
and CranialRectalLoopback adds:
Sorry, guys, as much as I share your above sentiments, you'd better not hold your hopes high, as this is wishful thinking.
I can practically guarantee you that, should a Democrat win the Presidency in November, the next morning Dubya will sign an executive order to transfer all the War on Terror and Iraq-related documents - from the entire U.S. Federal Govt., incl. the CIA, Pentagon and DOJ - to the White House.
From there they'll go straight to Dubya's presidential library - to be mothballed for the next 12 years (or 20 years, if his 2001 presidential order that shielded Reagan's and Bush 41's papers, is extended.) Whatever cannot be mothballed, will be destroyed, shredded, erased, gone the same way the White House's and RNC's 5 million e-mails were disappeared. Federal courts, now stuffed to the gills with Dubya appointees, won't be much help.
Bottom line: sad to say, but the Repugs will all get away with it. Moreover, for the next 4 to 8 years we'll keep seeing them on TV, brazenly but silently whispering at us: Nyah, nyah, nyah.
April 24, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that We the People rise up, storm the White House, and take that information by force if Bush tries to go through with something like that. They can't stop all 300 million of us. We have a right to know what was done in Our name.
April 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, no big surprises here. The stonewalling continues....
Check my blog for the rundown on our torture program. I just started it!
http://indepthleft.blogspot.com
April 24, 2008 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Congress (you hear me, Conyers, Pelosi, Reid?)really wanted to investigate, really wanted the "evidence" and really wanted this administration to come clean and stop their damn covering up of unbelievable crimes..wanted true accountability...they would start impeachment hearings on criminal grounds...lying, spying and torturing are just a few of the Constitutional laws broken..and there has been dozens of criminal laws broken....but they sit on their thumbs dangling their feet..the last thing they want is for the American people to find out how they have colluded in these crimes against our nation.... they are such arrogant elitists they think we have no right to know or judge them...they think they are like the Bush administration..above the law...!
April 24, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chabuka's point is well taken. People in Congress had multiple chances to stand up to the Neocon cabal. But before the Iraq War vote something like a handful of them took the time to read the whole NIE, which set out a flimsy case to begin with. And there's a lot more. Rep. Harman, D-Calif., and other apparently knew about the torturing and let it slide. So they're going to look like stooges too, apparently. They might as well put Bill of Rights toilet paper in the restrooms in D.C.
April 24, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've read some things from Mr. Bean's Website, and there may well be some truth to his assertions. They are peppered, however, with claims that most "rational" people dismiss as being paranoid. And yes, crazy typing doesn't help anyone's case.
On the other hand, what we keep discovering about the depth of covert operations within and outside of this country tends to move me a little closer to accepting that some of the claims that Mr. Bean and other assert—about the level of surveillance to which they have been subjected, in particular—are, in fact, possible.
We've all discovered an awful lot about the breadth of this Administration's politicizing of previously innocuous and nonpartisan agencies, and many of these revelations, I believe, have come from people within who feel it's safer to do so now that the Administration is winding down.
But beneath the politics involved is a psychology that knows right from wrong but believes that to achieve goals that are touted as being good for the country (but seem only to benefit a few), anything goes. "Right and wrong" get trumped by "means to an end."
Belief in an ideology of exclusivity, self-righteousness, and a grandiose sense of entitlement seem to propel these policies' proponents—the ones who order them. And the power that they wield—and will continue to wield unless they are stopped (I agree with you, Long Memory) has pushed people who might otherwise be decent into actions that they now can't scramble fast enough to cover up.
Whereas certain key actors in the CIA hold the primary responsibility for renditions and torture, every single person who knew about it and did nothing—including the Congress and upper-level CIA—are also responsible.
The blueprints for acceptable action against an "enemy" have been clearly laid out by Geneva. Any loose interpretations are not excuses but mere sophistry. The only moral high ground available slipped away when those in the know, who now realize they made big mistakes in going along with the Administration, didn't come forward.
"I was only following orders" didn't hold up after WWII, and it certainly doesn't now.
April 24, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"CIA's interrogation program"
Please be consistent: it was and is a TORTURE program, TORTURE being the METHOD of "interrogation," which is prohibited by law everywhere and under all circumstances.
"Interrogation," not being in itself illegal, is not the issue, or the cause of the scandal.
And to underscore the universality of the prohibition against torture:
the Convention Against Torutre also prohbits, as illegal, even attempts to make torture legal.
Torture cannot be made legal, therefore there is no way it can be made legal beyond giving it the false and fraudulent appearance of illegality.
April 24, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink