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Torture from The Top Down

Shedding light on the human rights abuses of the Bush administration's first term seems to be the order of the day.

Reporting for Vanity Fair, Philippe Sands, a professor of law at University College London, details the direct involvement of administration figures in developing the interrogation techniques to be used at Guantanamo Bay.

There are plenty of highlights, including an admission (finally) from a Pentagon official that Jack Bauer provided inspiration. Diane Beaver, a lawyer who worked underneath Major General Michael Dunlavey, the first commander at Gitmo, told Sands in an interview about brainstorming meetings (which included representatives from the Defense Intelligence Agency and the C.I.A.) held at Gitmo in September of 2002 about possible interrogation techniques. The military's SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) program, meant to train U.S. soldiers to resist torture used by the bad guys, was one inspiration. But:

Ideas arose from other sources. The first year of Fox TV’s dramatic series 24 came to a conclusion in spring 2002, and the second year of the series began that fall. An inescapable message of the program is that torture works. “We saw it on cable,” Beaver recalled. “People had already seen the first series. It was hugely popular.” Jack Bauer had many friends at Guantánamo, Beaver added. “He gave people lots of ideas.”

Sands reports, relying on accounts from Beaver and Dunlavey, that a group of administration officials came down later that month to see for themselves:

On September 25, as the process of elaborating new interrogation techniques reached a critical point, a delegation of the administration’s most senior lawyers arrived at Guantánamo. The group included the president’s lawyer, Alberto Gonzales, who had by then received the Yoo-Bybee Memo; Vice President Cheney’s lawyer, David Addington, who had contributed to the writing of that memo; the C.I.A.’s John Rizzo, who had asked for a Justice Department sign-off on individual techniques, including waterboarding, and received the second (and still secret) Yoo-Bybee Memo; and Jim Haynes, Rumsfeld’s counsel. They were all well aware of [Mohammed al-Qahtani, allegedly a member of the 9/11 conspiracy and the so-called 20th hijacker who was already at Gitmo]. “They wanted to know what we were doing to get to this guy,” Dunlavey told me, “and Addington was interested in how we were managing it.” I asked what they had to say. “They brought ideas with them which had been given from sources in D.C.,” Dunlavey said. “They came down to observe and talk.” Throughout this whole period, Dunlavey went on, Rumsfeld was “directly and regularly involved.”
Beaver confirmed the account of the visit. Addington talked a great deal, and it was obvious to her that he was a “very powerful man” and “definitely the guy in charge,” with a booming voice and confident style. Gonzales was quiet. Haynes, a friend and protégé of Addington’s, seemed especially interested in the military commissions, which were to decide the fate of individual detainees. They met with the intelligence people and talked about new interrogation methods. They also witnessed some interrogations. Beaver spent time with the group. Talking about the episode even long afterward made her visibly anxious. Her hand tapped and she moved restlessly in her chair. She recalled the message they had received from the visitors: Do “whatever needed to be done.”

Comments (18)

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Interesting. It's a whole new generation of Pinochets.

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Impeachment is NOT pardonable by the president.

Impeach Rumsfeld

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Whoa. They witnessed interrogations? These are some sick son-of-a-guns. I guess 9/11 didn't change depravity.

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All in our name:

“This year I was really a player,” Feith said, thinking back on 2002 and relishing the memory. I asked him whether, in the end, he was at all concerned that the Geneva decision might have diminished America’s moral authority. He was not. “The problem with moral authority,” he said, was “people who should know better, like yourself, siding with the assholes, to put it crudely.”

And Congress does nothing........

I'll wretch now.

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For eight long years our foreign policy has been directed by a dozen Professor Groetescheles.

(reference: Lumet's "Fail-Safe")

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War crimes trials should be on the Democratic Platform. Let McCain defend these guys, and say that those who have committed torture shouldn't be brought to justice. He wouldn't hardly be credible on that argument, would he?

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So our SS got the idea of torture from a TV series? Beam me up Scottie, I'm on the wrong planet!

This is not the only time US government policy has been shaped by Hollywood myth. How about the supposed urgency of the liquid explosives plot? The TSA is still limiting liquids in carry-ons to "combat" this non-existent threat.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/

"There hasn't been a torture sequence that my character has been involved with that there isn't some kind of a negative repercussion, whether it's emotional. It's very simplistic to try and take what we are doing in this fantasy, in this '24,' which is a television show and try and say that this is a referendum for torture or we are justifying the absolution [he probably meant 'abolition'] of due process or anything like that."
Kiefer Sutherland, who plays Jack Bauer on "24",

http://www.ravensblog.net/quotes_archives/war_crimes.php

How about for some congressional hearings on torture where Jack Bauer tells the GOP what's what with their fantasyland?

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I tell you what, CSPAN's ratings would be the highest ever if Kiefer Sutherland were to testify before congress.

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The producer of 24 is good buddies with Rush Limbaugh, who kept hammering away on his website (I can't bring myself to listen to the guy) about how the the commanders should "take the handcuffs off the troops" so that they can show al Qaeda we mean business.
Abu Ghraib was just a frat party, doncha know.

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Hey Friends!

Premier Asshole Doug Feith teaches at Georgetown. His email is djf35@georgetown.edu.

His office number is 202-687-7846.

If you get a moment, do let him know how much we appreciate his shredding of the Constitution. Not to mention his tough talk (and Yoo's, and Cheney's, etc) that is based on not a single second served in the military.

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The Hague is just barely not too good for these pieces of garbage. There is not a court anywhere that will not give them more procedural protections than they were willing to give to others.

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Hey can we have citizen's arrest for war crimes ?
No seriously can we ?
WYT - you are absolutley correct we need to have these guy defended by McShame - We need to have the neoskums be the albatrossess around the GOP's election neck
And one final time - seriously can't we the PEOPLE - citizen's arrest these war criminals ?

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Justice would be dropping this clown clan in the middle of Sadr City. Hell, even give them full combat gear and let's see how they'd handle themselves there.

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My two cents.

I attended a forum in New York about the Abu Garab scandal. On of the speakers was the female General in charge of the entire prison system in Iraq after the invasion. She said that upon her inspection of one of the interrogation facilities she saw a memo outlinging the "enhanced" interogation techniques and in the margin was a handwriiten note that read "Make sure this happens" signed with the initials of Donald Rumsfeld.

To largely untrained reservists whose only real experience with detainees was in a classroom on weekends this was a recipe for disaster. Anyone with an ounce of military experinece could have seen what was coming. Shame on them all.

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Got Kids: please post this comment elsewhere on the site, as it's definitely a reference that's needed to clarify some other questions people are commenting about the torture history. Specifically, TPM's "Today's Must Read" included a comment from "scronk" at 11:26. I suppose I could paste it there, but I think not my place to do so.

Why did they go to Cuba? Don't buy into the TPM misdirection.

They were acting as extras in the next Hostel release. Hostel 6 I think it is. Working title: Cuban Vacation. Rich rightwing congressmen and their lawyers pay big money to see innocent
Germans, Canadians and Arabs tortured and killed. It's gonna be the biggest hit in the Hostel series.

Enjoy.

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