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Conyers Threatens Rove with Subpoena for Testimony on Siegelman
It's deja vu all over again.
House Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers (D-MI) says that if Karl Rove won't agree to testify before his committee about his involvement in the prosecution of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman (D), then he'll be forced to consider issuing a subpoena. You can read his letter to Rove's lawyer Robert Luskin below.
In response to Conyers' initial request for Rove to testify, Luskin offered to have Rove speak to the committee behind closed doors, without a transcript and not under oath -- the same offer administration lawyers made to Congress in the U.S. attorney firings investigation. And you know where that went: the House is currently suing to enforce those subpoenas after finding former White House counsel Harriet Miers and chief of staff Josh Bolten in contempt of Congress.
Rove was subpoenaed by the Senate Judiciary Committee as part of that investigation and refused to show up to testify. That committee subsequently voted to find him in contempt, but the full Senate never voted on the citation.
May 1, 2008Via Fax and U.S. Mail
Mr. Robert D. Luskin
Patton Boggs LLP
2550 M Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037-1350
Dear Mr. Luskin:
We were very disappointed to receive your April 29 letter declining the invitation to Karl Rove to testify voluntarily before the House Judiciary Committee concerning the politicization of the Department of Justice, including allegations regarding the prosecution of former Governor Don Siegelman. Particularly since your client has made a number of on-the-record comments on this subject to the media, and in light of your (now modified) statement that Mr. Rove would be willing to testify, we can see no justification for his refusal to speak on the record to the Committee. We urge you and your client to reconsider this refusal no later than May 12, or we will have no choice but to consider the use of compulsory process.
Mr. Rove has previously spoken to the media and on the record concerning both the Siegelman case and the firings of U.S. Attorneys in 2006. Your letter, however, offers to make Mr. Rove available only for a non-transcribed staff interview, not under oath, and limited only to the Siegelman matter. This offer is completely unacceptable.
Initially, an interview conducted without a transcript and not under oath would frustrate a full and fair inquiry. An interview without a transcript is an invitation to confusion and will not permit us to obtain a straightforward and clear record, as several of us have explained in response to a similar offer by White House counsel Fred Fielding in the U.S. Attorney matter. As Republican former Congressman Mickey Edwards has written, "[n]o Congress, indeed no lawyer, would ever agree to such an outrageous" proposal. We simply do not understand why anyone who is prepared to tell the truth would object to an oath and a record of what is said. This is particularly true in this case, where Mr. Rove has already spoken on the record on this subject.
Indeed, your proposal is even more restrictive than Mr. Fielding's offer, since you would explicitly exclude any questioning concerning the U.S. Attorney firings. As your own letter appears to recognize, the Siegelman and other selective prosecution matters and the U. S. Attorney firings are clearly related as part of the concerns our Committee has been investigating on the politicization of the Justice Department under this Administration. It would further impede our inquiry to seek artificially to separate these issues. We can see no reason why Mr. Rove would be willing to testify as to whether he put improper pressure on a federal prosecutor to bring a prosecution, but would not be willing to testify on whether he improperly sought to retaliate against federal prosecutors by having them fired.
Your letter also raises concerns about possible executive privilege claims with respect to Mr. Rove's testimony. The proper way to address such concerns, however, is on a question-by-question basis as current Administration officials have done in testifying before the Committee, not by a blanket refusal to testify.
We hope you and your client will reconsider the decision not to testify on a voluntary basis. Please direct any questions and your response to the Judiciary Committee office, 2138 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515(tel: 202-225-3951; fax: 202-225-7680).
Sincerely,
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John Conyers, Jr.
Chairman
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Linda T. Sánchez
Chair, Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law
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Artur Davis
Member, Committee on the Judiciary
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Tammy Baldwin
Member, Committee on the Judiciary
cc: Hon. Lamar S. Smith
Hon. Chris Cannon













I know that Republicans in Congress seem to quake in their boots when they're called upon to cross Cheney (nominally Bush, but really Cheney), and I think that Rove must strike even greater fear in their hearts.
Rove has built up such a machine within the party that unless a Republican senator or representative is positive that he or she is bulletproof, just the thought of getting on the wrong side of Rove is likely to make them fear for any continued place or influence in the party.
The secure Repubs need to join with the Dems to knock Rove down from his perch. But they've got to be able to undo him utterly, or the retribution from a pissed-off Rove will be formidable. I truly believe this man is capable of anything, and he's probably already guilty of much more than we can imagine.
Cheney's scary, but Rove is dangerously insidious.
May 1, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Enough sternly worded letters and proclamations.
Stop threatening and serve the slug his subpoena. Skewer him and grill him on the barby like the moral shrimp he is.
May 1, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
what's the point of issuing useless subpoenas? the Dems don't have the guts to enforce them and put these miscreants under oath.
you may recall that neither Cheney nor Bush were put under oath at the ridiculous 9-11 commission hand-holding episode.
May 1, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Skewer and roast said filthy animal to a crisp.
Bacon. I smell Rove-brand.
May 1, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, the Democrats... Sooo many words, sooo little action.
May 1, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL... I got a fund raising email from John, "threaten them till the cows come home" Conyers.
He even mentioned subpoenas in the fund raising email.
Sheesh.
May 1, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
CitizenX writes:
You should respond that he won't see a dime from you unless he, and his fellow toothless Dem. dinosaurs, are able to deliver a few Repug scalps.
May 1, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, now... wecan't treat these important people as if they were just like anyone else in our society. We have to treat them as they are... equal, but more equal than us mere commoners.
Of course, if we were still a democracy, most of them would have been in jail some time ago...
Apparently, democracy has developed a whole new meaning from when we originally became a nation...
If you disagree, just take a good look at our newest democratic ally... Iraq...
May 1, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Office of Legal Counsel has issued a finding that Harriet Myers in immune from any attempts to have her testify, with or without a subpoena. It also said in the same doc. that she didn't she could not even be forced to appear in any way. Wonder why no one ever reported on these facts. You can find the decision at the OLCs website.
May 1, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, that means the same goes for Karl Rove.
May 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
SmileySam writes:
That's nice and dandy, but the OLC is part of the Executive branch, i.e. they don't make the laws -- Congress does. If Congress subpoenas Myers to appear, then she must comply.
Of course, no one expects Myers to incriminate herself; if there was any wrongdoing on her part, she's free to plead the 5th. If the OLC wants to assist her, they could act as her council.
May 1, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yertle the Turtle will never testify, he'll simply suck that head of his back into his shell and snap at anyone who comes near.
May 1, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
After Bush co. finally attacks Iran, Conyers can slit all their bellies open with impeachment hearings. No executive privilege allowed.
It will be tragic that it will take yet another war to finally get out the whole truth of the Bush years.
May 1, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, the dems are very annoying with their whining and very slow to doing nothing tactics but on Bolten/Miers they are suing and that is doing something. dont think they can merely arrest them for not appearing but maybe they can. i for one would enjoy seeing that man/woman Miers frog-marched in front of tv cameras.
May 1, 2008 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Raw Story's latest Seigelman piece mentions Mark Roden as being involved with Jill Simpson's vehicle accident.
Roden was supposedly working for the Attalla, Alabama, Police Dept.
Isn't it ironic that Allen Roden is with Verint Systems? Verint is the top dog in e-mail monitoring, telephone call monitoring, tracing Internet useage, & mobile video surveillance.
May 2, 2008 2:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I notice that the original post says the House has filed suit to enforce the subpoenas against Harriet Meyers and Josh Bolten.
This is more than they have done in any of the previous cases where administration officials have refused to testify and/or deliver documents.
It is also the most they can do unless they want to dust off the inherent contempt proceedings that haven't been used since 1934. There is no legal or constitutional bar to them doing so, but imprisonment under inherent contempt can't extend past the current session of Congress.
May 2, 2008 6:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Conyers to Rove:
"I will give you 6 months to obey our subpoena, if you do not comply, I shall be forced to issue another subpoena."
Pat Leahy: "I second that."
May 2, 2008 7:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. The future. It's coming to me. OK ... Hang on. Ah yes.
Congress will issue a subpoena, Rove will say "Nah, I don't wanna testify." And Congress will say, "Please?" Rove will say, "Nah, poke off." Congress will respond with, "Ah golly gee wiz, OK."
May 2, 2008 8:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
if Karl Rove won't agree to testify before his committee about his involvement in the prosecution of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman (D), then he'll be forced to consider issuing a subpoena.
He'll be forced to consider? What's to consider? And Rove shouldn't be given the choice to "agree to testify". Issue a fekking subpoena and hold him in comtempt if he doesn't show, end of story.
May 2, 2008 8:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know it all seems toothless, but in court this paper record is important. It's clear from the history of correspondence that the committee's are reasonable and the executive responses are not.
I understand that even though these abuses of executive privilege or simply contempt for congress desperately need to be adjudicated, that may never happen. But if it does all these 'civil' letters show that respect for the law and the balance of powers has been a one-way street. It's got to be hard for a federal judge, even a Bush appointee, to side with the idea of secret off the record testimony as any kind of reasonable oversight.
May 2, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Conyers will be forced to consider thinking about maybe talking to someone about possibly issuing a subpoena to Rove, and there the matter will drop. We've been down this road before.
May 3, 2008 4:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
PELOSI WHORE SAID, "...there will be no impeachment..." as the first thing she did after getting a mandate from America.
Dems later polled at 14 pts...with Bush at 26pts.....when Nixon was at 30 before being impeached?
REID has done all he could to "help stop the Dems from standing up against the bogus FISA law rewrite".
LEAHY still "scripts hearings for Mueller" with full knowledge that FBI HQ participated in "stealing my x-rays" showing the RFID NSA MIND CONTROL chip inserted in my skull while I was asleep. THE CHIPPING OCCURRED AFTER I GOT MY TEN PAGE MEMO TO US SEN JUD COMM MEMBER CHARLES GRASSLEY resulting in THE NSA TSP BEINGOUTED.
There is....nothing remotely confused with oversight or leadership from the impotent clown punk idiots known as the Democratic party.
It's all over.
Too many appeasers and too many criminals covering it all up (FBI HQ covered up CHRISTINA MOORE MURDER AFTER THEY HAD MY INFO ON THE CALEA WIRETAP HARD DISK INFO leading to NSA 902nd Counterintel Group who gave SIGINT to Whittington in Austin, Texas...to NSA TSP merc's on ground at Moore murder.
Dems...have no interest in this info.
No questions for Mueller's FBI who worked that murder case in Round Rock, Texas?
May 5, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oooh, look! A sternly worded letter! To be followed, no doubt, by an even more sternly worded letter! To be followed, maybe, someday, (perhaps after more sternly worded letters by a sternly worded subpoena. Which Rove will of course ignore. And then Conyers will.... jump up and down, bang the table, and hold his breath....
And then he'll stop.
And nothing will change.
Boy, I'm sure glad I worked so hard on that '06 campaign to elect a Democratic majority...
May 5, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
He should not be able to do this. It allows him to dictate terms and to avoid being put on the spot. This guy is the author of the "creating a false man" method and he has created is tough guy image using those tools. I suspect he will not do well mano a mano, as he is not a "genius" at all and he wishes to avoid such a format.
If this is allowed it is a huge defeat for those that know who and what this guy really is. He is on the burner for his tactics and should not be allowed to use them again to dictate the heat setting.
This is gut time. The Democrats in Congress should completely control this creep and let him know that its their way or the highway to contempt. Those are the only options.
May 13, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink