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Johnson's Stonewalling Drives Waxman to Gavel-Pounding Distraction

In a showdown between irresistible force and immovable object, the immovable object won.

Under withering questioning this afternoon from exasperated House government oversight committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA), EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson held his ground, repeating the same non-responsive answers until the usually unflappable Waxman finally lost his temper.

Waxman was asking Johnson whether he had ever discussed two ozone rulings with the President. Johnson has previously testified that he had discussed California's emissions waiver, but now refused to say whether he had discussed the ozone rulings. The White House's involvement in overruling science-based recommendations from EPA staff in favor of more politically expedient alternatives is now the focus of Waxman's investigation.

As Waxman continued to press this line of questioning, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), the highest ranking Republican present at the hearing, protested that Waxman was asking questions out of turn, prompting Waxman to threaten to have Issa removed from the hearing room.

This sort of song and dance from Johnson is now routine. He's managed to skate through multiple Senate and House hearings now, confirming his critics' impressions that he's a deceptive political hack, but avoiding actually answering the questions.


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Man, what kind of wood is that gavel made out of? I thought Waxman was gonna drive it straight thru the desk when he pulled Issa's chain up short on him.

Seriously, dude.

Now we need that sort of thing to happen to Rove. Haul his fat-ass in front of a Congressional committee, fucking frog-march any Republican kiss-ass who won't get tough on him, and just lay into the guy.

Yeah, that'll happen.

Who's pocket is Issa in? He's supposed to be representing California...

Issa is a textbook example of an Orange County GOP partisan hack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa

I saw him on Bill Maher once acting like an idiot, but didn't know he actually was one.

He stole cars, for gods sake!

I watched it, knowing that today might be the day where Waxman finally loses it. I was actually expecting him to reach across the dias and grab Johnson by the throat.

Good theatre. Now let's see Waxman follow through with some action.

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Shit. Will have to watch this late this evening when I am at home and not behind the office firewall.

Watching this hack testify versus Waxman is pretty sad. Add in the fact that he's got that half arse grin going the entire time he speaks and he looks like the "auto pilot" from the Airplane movies, and it irks me off even more.

The Autopilot! That's who he reminds me of.

OMFG! Haha. Yes, that's it! I knew he reminded me of something (fake and plastic).

Issa's the blockhead who showed absolute and utter ignorance of technical matters when trying to cover for the White House e-mail scandal.

Absolutely no clue what he's talking about 95% of the time.

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I still have not understood why Issa's district keeps voting for him! He votes against their own interest and California and America!

Remember, he was the one solely behind the "re-call" of Governor Davis...He was to win governor, however "Arnold" beat him to it with a bigger larger name!

Issa is a repugment politician. His district down in San Diego needs to wake up and vote him out! His views are idiopathic!

I too saw the whole thing! Watching these hearings are the best thing on TV. But, I agree Waxman needs to step up the gavel some and send some of these cronies to jail!

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Issa keeps getting elected primarily because his district leans so strongly Republican. Take a look at the map. The way it's gerrymandered, it carves out much of rural north San Diego county (don't let the "San Diego" on that map fool you--that's calling out the county, not the city,) Vista and Oceanside (heavily populated with military families) and a section of southwest Riverside County from Temecula to Lake Elsinore to Perris, which for nearly all intents and purposes is an extension of Orange and suburban San Diego counties. These are regions that just don't vote Democratic--that party didn't even run an opponent in 2002.

One has to remember, with the exception of districts already controlled by Democrats, the Democratic Party does not exist south of the Los Angeles-Orange County line. They abandoned this region long before I ever moved here. So long as that holds true, Darrell Issa will get re-elected as long as he wants to.

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Hey Issa,.....you wanna meet my little friend? Here's the rule, right here on the gavel,...do you see it? Do ya? Well, let me show it to you again! Of course, Issa wasn't concerned about politicizing the EPA rulings,....Why don't you show the American people the rule where it says the government has a right and obligation to poison its citizens. Show me that rule,...you little tool!

Was hoping that the next time Waxman raised the gavel, it was to clock the hell out of Issa and shut his whiny ass up.

What a shame. I really wanted to see Issa get "physically removed" from the hearing. Indeed, it seemed like the perfect occasion to use excessive force - maybe involving a taser, some attack dogs, and good, old-fashioned billy-clubs.

Well, I think there are enough people who'd be character witnesses for Henry, and enough who could testify to Issa being - well, something that can't be said on TV - that no jury would convict.

Who's running against Issa this year? Do they need more money?

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Robert Hamilton is running to unseat Darrell Issa. Check out the website at roberthamiltonforcongress.com.
You can make a contribution on the website.

Bottom line: Johnson and the Bush administration flipped off Congress - AGAIN - and all Waxman could do was bang his gavel.

Yep.

It's obvious Johnson would avoid questions about taking a leak before his shower if Waxman asked. But, y'know, they only have about seven months of these shenanigans and then we can kick every one of Dubya's evasive little creatures out of their political appointments and get the government working again.

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It would be typical of Bushco Environmentalism if he peed on his feet in the shower. Or a page's head.

I like Waxman - he's one of the few Democrats with the brains and the balls to get to the bottom of this Administration's illegal crap - but he's surrounded by spineless, powerless jellyfish.

And at the end of the day, what do we have? Nothing. The Girlycrats will wring their soft little hands, complain and make bold harumphing noises.

End of story.

This only reinforces my resolve to donate to Democratic candidates and their causes.

I can't wait for November.

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Stephen Johnson is a walking, talking advertisement for the use of enhanced interrogation techniques.

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It would be typical of Bushco Environmentalism if he peed on his feet in the shower. Or a page's head.

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BRAVO!

Daryl Issa has been long overdue for a spanking. I have seen him repeatedly try to bully and filibuster using points of order questions as a stalling and dilatory tactic. It would have been nice to have seen him physically dragged from the chamber.

Way to go Mr. Waxman.

Cut the funding. That's all we're left with. Let this asshole go without a paycheck for the next nine months.

Issa was the one who orchestrated the recall of Gov. GreyDavis and now CA has Ahnold for gov.

He did it because HE wanted to be gov. but got beat by the famous movie star.
After securing 1.6 million signatures on the recall petition, thus forcing the special election, Issa tearfully withdrew his candidacy on 7 August 2003, when it became obvious that he lacked the winning charisma to strippers and movie stars.

He's small time crook afaic.

In 1973, Issa pleaded guilty to possession of an unregistered firearm, which he tended to brandish at his employees, purportedly in jest. He was arrested twice for grand theft auto. In his unsuccessful 1998 run for the Senate, he claimed that he had been a member of Nixon’s security detail during the 1971 World Series. Nixon did not attend the 1971 World Series. After a 2001 trip to the Middle East, Issa, an Arab-American, announced that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organisation.

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Issa is of Lebanese extraction.

Issa also oversees the considerable assets of the Issa Family Foundation. The American Task Force for Lebanon received over $200,000 from Issa in 2006.

Bummer Waxman didn't actually get the clarification he was seeking. But he pursued it with vigor and passion... until the EPA guy said "I don't think it's appropriate to discuss details." It's a B.S. answer that seems to hold weight, ever since Cheney introduced it the day he slipped out of some fetid alien womb.

I think the rebuttal to that B.S. statement is: "it is not your determination whether it is appropriate to discuss those details. My determination, as chairman, is that you must clarify your answer." Ah, well... 20/20.

Waxman is not the enemy. There is no gentlemanly way to force a radically obtuse person to answer a question in our justice system. You just hope the person you're dealing with on the stand is a human being with conscience and a soul.

The Bush administration, in its final year, proves the theory of evolution, as it has naturally selected its appointees and staff down to the most soulless and unconscionable of government employees.

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Issa's the same asshole who said this:

In April 2008, Issa said that the federal government "just threw" buckets of cash at New York for the September 11 2001 attack "that had no dirty bomb in it, it had no chemical munitions in it." He went on: "I have to ask ... why the firefighters who went there and everybody in the city of New York needs to come to the federal government for the dollars versus this being primarily a state consideration."
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Henry Waxman spits hot fire.

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I watched the hearing, Issa clammed up when Waxman threatend to have him physically removed from the room. :-)

Issa is the House version of Orrin Hatch, after a Republican scandal, both act like the circus guy who follows the elephant and scoops up his droppings.

Issa makes Hatch look like John Warner. Issa is a rich guy who bought his way into politics. He made his name by attempting - and failing - to wipe out bilingual education in California. That made him infamous and he rode his notoriety to Congress. He's protected by living in arguably the only deeply conservative region of California - the cradle of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and Dana Rohrabacher.

Maybe, just maybe, Johnson's slience has something to do with this Rove intervention from 2006?

EPA Rule Loosened After Oil Chief's Letter to Rove The White House says the executive's appeal had no role in changing a measure to protect groundwater. Critics call it a political payoff. by Tom Hamburger and Peter Wallsten WASHINGTON — A rule designed by the Environmental Protection Agency to keep groundwater clean near oil drilling sites and other construction zones was loosened after White House officials rejected it amid complaints by energy companies that it was too restrictive and after a well-connected Texas oil executive appealed to White House senior advisor Karl Rove.

The new rule, which took effect Monday, came after years of intense industry pressure, including court battles and behind-the-scenes agency lobbying. But environmentalists vowed Monday that the fight was not over, distributing internal White House documents that they said portrayed the new rule as a political payoff to an industry long aligned with the Republican Party and President Bush.

In 2002, a Texas oilman and longtime Republican activist, Ernest Angelo, wrote a letter to Rove complaining that an early version of the rule was causing many in the oil industry to "openly express doubt as to the merit of electing Republicans when we wind up with this type of stupidity."

Rove responded by forwarding the letter to top White House environmental advisors and scrawling a handwritten note directing an aide to talk to those advisors and "get a response ASAP."

Rove later wrote to Angelo, assuring him that there was a "keen awareness" within the administration of addressing not only environmental issues but also the "economic, energy and small business impacts" of the rule.

Original LA Times article here - http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0613-07.htm

What do YOU call it?

At the time of the letter, Christy Todd Whtman was EPA director. Her example clearly resonated with Johnson. I wonder if he had to agree to kowtow to the WH Political Office in exchange for his nomination?

Excellent article. Thanks. I read the Times but I sure missed that one.

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Giv'em hell, Waxman! Too bad the state of Georgia doesn't have congresspersons with this kind of balls and spine.

Ours are just good ole, butt kissin' folks.

You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

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Problem with the "good old" boys view, is that they are a "dieing" breed! A new generation is moving into the lime light and the old ways are the sad ways...Keep'm down, make them follow, vote against their own int rest...Its hard to change old ways, but it happens regardless what they may want nor do!

The time of lining their own pockets with $$ is fading because people can not afford to even eat, work nor survive!

If people would just vote for what is in their interest, and not just because...We would not have the adminstration we have! You get what you paid for!

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Waxman used to be in my district, but it was split a few years ago...But I can still claim him as my congressman - in a moral sense...Waxman has ethical, moral and professional demeanor.

Issa, is a man who needs to be excepted and heard and gain political power to sever "his" needs, and not the peoples; this IS his weakness...

WOW! Waxman sure shut that blank blank Issa up. Johnson is in hot do do and knows it. His lawyers told him to repeat that verbatim or his blank is up the river. We have not heard the last of Johnson. Waxman is not letting this blankity blank slide. I bet a bunch of squirrels are shimming an anvil up a tree right now ala Wiley Coyote, waiting for Johnson to pass under their tree.

Isaa is a hack no doubt. The operational question is what can be done about Johnson?? Can he be impeached?? Can he be removed by the congress?? Can his rulings/opinions be nullified by the courts?

We need to rid the country of this crony and be done with him once and for all. Let him go be a hack in Dallas with chimpy.

As with most all of chimpy's folks they need to get out of here NOW!

I'm imagining a general 60-second anti-Republican ad that could play in support of candidates up and down the Democratic ticket and in any region of the country: Splice together a staccato series of Greatest Hits Weasels during their worst moments of oversight testimony. A rapid-fire drumbeat of faces and soundbites of smugness, arrogance, evasion, and contempt from Gonzales and his DOJ crew, Brownie, the clown in this clip, the State Department's greasy IG tool during Blackwater, Wolfowitz on the war cost, the whole flippin' rogues gallery.

Maybe stutter-cut the most egregious moments; maybe include off-camera audio slices of disgusted committee members openly displaying disbelief of the "testimony" or "forgetfulness" [keeping the visuals squarely on witness reactions]. Pound away with the most notorious Hearings moments during eight years of Bush's reign. Then finish with a dark screen, simple text fade-ins / fade-outs:

Oversight from Congress is important. Now voter oversight is vital. Use your power. Vote for change.

I'm not an advertising person. But I think there is seed of an idea here that could be developed by any number of organizations--it's not an open advocacy piece for any candidate or party. It's got some versatility--it could support down-ticket races for the House and Senate. Production costs would be low--mostly incurred in the editing suite. It could easily be edited in 30-second and 20-second versions.

Johnson's smug "there's-nothing-you-can-do" attitude is infuriating. (A lot of people have been infuriated by similar performances over the last eight years.) Let's wipe off the smirks off these assholes by showcasing them big-time. Let's shove eight years of these performances right down their lying throats.

Sorry for my over-the-top tone, folks I'm one very furious dude right now. (Waxman showed much more pose and self-restraint than I would have exhibited in those circumstances....)

Issa wins the Grand Prize for Self-Righteous Smugness every time he opens his mouth. Thanks to all of you here for the information on him. Does anyone know if he may be vulnerable come the fall? If there's a chance he could be unseated, I'd be glad to send a chect. Waxman's performance made me delerious with joy. And Johnson is Stepford Man with his little smirk, folded hands, styled eyebrows and spray-on tan. That was a White House tape playing every time he opened his mouth, all pre-programmed to be massively non-responsive. C-Span outdid itself today!

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Just gave some money to District 49's Congressperson-Elect, Robert Hamilton.

Please beat Issa!

With every swing of the gavel we get closer to a constitutional democracy.

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I think that's an excellent idea for a series of ads. I'm sure that many of them could be tailored for particular representatives that have shown themselves to be doing their jobs.

And I love the idea of a general ad that could simply be a condemnation anyone who'd decide to vote for a Republican could do so in light of the dreadful performance of both representatives and senators, and the depths to which the administration's toadies made a mockery of Congress and the Constitution.

hat is with these gutless pimps? Waxman? he spouts and postures, and waxes furious, but does he slap a contempt citation on the fucker Johnson?

Are you fuukin shyting me? Of COURSE not.

Yet there was a time, not that long ago, when--if one appeared before Congress and refused cooperate, they'd ruin your fuuking life...'course, it was "dirty Commies" whose lives were ruined...but the point is they have the power, they simply won't use it...and Waxman's a guilty of shirking his responsibility here as any sold-out, corrupt Puke...

Amen, my tokin librul brother! Johnson sure sounds contemptuous to me, refusing to answer, yet explicitly not exerting executive privilege. Can someone explain "legally" why Johnson is not in contempt?

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I think if Issa had given him any more lip, Henry would've dropped that gavel right down on his sneaky little head...

"Please step away from the gavel..."

When Waxman hit the gavel the first time he had the same face on as my mom did whenever she was about to slap the taste out of my mouth.

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