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Ashcroft Cites Executive Privilege, Discusses Waterboarding with House Judiciary

As we've reported , former Attorney General John Ashcroft was on the Hill yesterday, testifying before the House Judiciary Committee.

Ashcroft's testimony called into question the timeline of the CIA interrogations and suggested that perhaps torture began before it was authorized by the DOJ. But it also shed some light on the DOJ's thought process about the authorization of the interrogations to begin with.

It was during Ashcroft's years as attorney general that the infamous "torture" memos were written. The memos approved the use of waterboarding and other forms of interrogation as long as they did not "cause pain similar in intensity to that caused by death or organ failure."

While Ashcroft approved the memos initially, he later withdrew them out of concern that they overstepped the bounds of executive authority, a decision that he described this way:

It wasn't a hard decision for me to - when they came to me, and I came to the conclusion that these were genuine concerns - get about the business of correcting it.

Just one week ago the committee was host to the current Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

And just like Mukasey, Ashcroft was ever the artful dodger, citing a lack of memory, executive privilege or the classified nature of the information as reasons why he could not answer lawmakers' questions.

When asked asked repeatedly about waterboarding, Ashcroft described it as "very valuable," "not torture," and claimed that it "has happened three times."

"I have been aware of waterboarding," he stated in answer to questions on how he learned that the interrogation technique was being used. "I'm not sure how I am aware."

The former attorney general conceded his lack of recall as to the events in question during his opening remarks.

"It's been difficult . . . to distinguish between what I in fact recall as a matter of my own experience, and what I remember from the accounts of others," he said.

And indeed throughout the hearing, Ashcroft informed the committee that he couldn't remember. . . and that even if he could remember, he wouldn't tell them because of executive privilege.

One particularly rapid-fire stonewalling occurred during Rep. Linda Sanchez's (D-CA) five minutes of interrogation. It really can't be summed into words, so we have the clip here. Enjoy.


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So is he asserting that as the AG he was essentially the President's lawyer? I thought the AG was the government's "top cop" not the president's legal council. There is executive priviledge and then there is attourney-client priviledge, which one is he asserting?

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Yeah, that jumped out at me, too. That's the same shit we got with Gonzalez. Ashcroft and Gonzalez both thought they were there to do the President's bidding instead of enforcing the nation's laws. Mukasey seems to continuing that proud tradition.

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Please. Someone tell me how Ashcroft could write a 304 page memoir, "Never Again: Securing America and Restoring Justice" (2006), and have the worst problem with recall. What credibility does he have with his publisher and those who bought the book, but now, don't know whether to "buy his story". Maybe it should have been called "Never Again: Can't Recall"

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Exactly. Top government and business executives have complete notes and calendars of everyone they met with and what was discussed. If he can't remember what happened it's because he doesn't want to.

NEVER FORGET
(unless you are a Republican)

If I was in Congress...I would ask the obvious and pertinent quesions:

----DID YOU COMMIT ANY OVERT ACT IN FURTHERANCE OF A CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT A PATRIOT ACT MURDER AND FED CRIME OF VIOLENCE WHEN MEL CARNEHAN'S AIRPLANE WAS BROUGHT DOWN WITH A DOD DARPA WEAPON CALLED EMP (electro magnetic pulse weapon);

----WHERE WAS BLACKWATER (Cheney's favorite Minot AF base nuke thieves, also Cheney's paid praetorians aiding Secret Service in his security precautions) WHEN THE FOLLOWING AIRPLANES MYSTERIOUSLY FELL OUT OF THE SKY: JFJ JR, CARNEHAN, WELLSTONE, CON AIR CRASHES?


----WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BEAN'S DASCHLE CAMPAIGN MEMO BEING SEIZED, WARRANT?, TAMPERING WITH WITNESS?...OTHER POLITICAL WIRETAPPING?...MICHELLE TAPKEN'S FED GRAND JURY IN SIOUX FALLS?...BEAN'S DOJ OIG COMPLAINT OBSTRUCTED?

He obviously needs refresher on who he works for..Maybe a few years in the stockade at the Hague will refresh his memory.

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May I ask why Ashcroft or anyone who serves "at the pleasure" of the White House would bother answering a question honestly? There are absolutely no repercussions to be had and they are well aware of that. This congress won't do poo except ask an uncomfortable question or two. Possibly, they will send a sharply worded letter.

No Leon Jaworskys or Sam Ervins will pop up, they aren't being called.
So, I remind you of the articles of impeachment brought against Richard Nixon:
Article 1 Obstruction of Justice
Article 2 Abuse of Power
Article 3 Contempt of Congress

Well I guess the legislature doesn't see anything like that coming out of this administration. Pay no attention. Better just keep moving along, plebes. This doesn't concern you.


WWBJD ,,, "What would Barbara Jordan do .."
Can any body explain to me the best possible course of action after the general election -to insure that these criminals are all held accountable .
And once having described that best ccourse of action -what do we need to do in the this election cycle to increase our ability to go after the ongoing criminal conspiracy known as gwb 43 ?
And we also need to be ruminanting about how to remove Pelosi as Madam Speaker -if not her office next election cycle-and her complicit sidekick Jane Harmon too ..

Sanchez was merely memorializing. All of it can and will be used against this talking-in-tongues gasbag.

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I wonder whether Rep. Sanchez has read Vincent Bugliosi's book: The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder. Sure looks like it!!

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