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Obama Camp Connects ACORN Probe to US Attorneys Scandal

Add the Obama campaign to the growing list of players who think that DOJ's election-eve investigation into ACORN is a repeat of the politicization of the department that we saw in the US attorney firings scandal.

"With this voter fraud [investigation], we're seeing an unholy alliance of law enforcement and the ugliest form of partisan politics," Bob Bauer, an elections lawyer with the Obama camp, said on a conference call with reporters just now. Bauer compared the decision to launch the investigation with the US attorneys scandal, in which several US attorneys were fired for their unwillingess to pursue politically charged cases, including voter fraud, with sufficient aggression to satisfy the Bush administration.

Bauer released a letter sent to Attorney General Michael Mukasey calling on him to have the issue taken on by Nora Dannehy, the prosecutor he appointed to investigate the US attorney firings.

Bauer went on to accuse John McCain of "trying to create a much greater doubt about the electoral process altogether," by alleging that ACORN voter fraud could threaten the fabric of our democracy, as McCain claimed in the debate Wednesday night.

House Judiciary chair John Conyers, as well as David Iglesias -- whose firing as US attorney was a direct result of his reluctance to pursue GOP-pushed claims of voter fraud, according to the recent OIG report -- have also connected the FBI's ACORN investigation to the kind of politicization exposed in the firings saga.


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About damn time we had some pushback on this.

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No kidding ... Am I the only one 'round here that feels like Obama is letting up again on the offense and he's gone back to the defensive posture while his message is not able to breakthrough the noise of campaign tactics, Joe the plumer, ACORN, Ayers and polls? This is EXACTLY what the McCain campaign wants to happen ... It is dangerous territory.

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I think you are being really unfair to expect Obama to be on offense all the time. John McCain has been on the defensive before, also. Obama and his camp are taking steps to squash this. And although we are only hearing about this move today, his team did not rush this out overnight. They were prepared for it, but sometimes you have to wait for your opponent to make his move. What I don't want to see AGAIN is Obama supporters going back to dissing their own guy, saying he's going to lose, giving him "advice", and calling him weak. Many of his supporters did this when he was only a few points lower than where he is now. Then he started to gain and his supporters were bragging, getting cocky and complacement. Now here we go again. Numbers are tightening, the dominating story could hurt his chances and I already see his supporters, like you, going back to "he's not doing enough" nonsense!

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I support your comment. Readers here swing radically from tearing their own guy to pieces and showboating. It pisses me off. Show support, contribute and work hard. If his campaign really doesn't know what its doing then we shouldn't be so keen to get 'em in the Whitehouse.

Of course they do know what they are doing. They've run an excellent campaign and they will handle this ACORN bullsh!t the best way they realistically can.

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Well, it's too late already now, isn't it? The last 2 weeks will be all about news cycles. And the McCain campaign OWNS the news cycles.

By not calling McCain out on ACORN immediately or pushing back at the debate, it will now linger as an issue through the final 16 days.

If the economy had not come on so strong, Obama would be trailing. Go back and look at the trends in the polls up until a few weeks ago.

Up until then, the McCain campaign had been ramming it DOWN the Obama campaign with issue after issue, offensive after offensive.

Fair or not. Truthful attacks or not. This is exactly how the primaries ended for Obama, too ... With a pathetic wimper and drag in the polls.

And stop with the whining about criticizing his campaign. If I donate to his campaign, I have the right to do so. You sound like the right-wing shouting anti-American to anyone who complains about your favorite heros.

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Actually the timing of the Obama's campaign announcement probably has everything to do with the SCOTUS slapping down the GOP
in Ohio. And I believe that happened today so that would be why the letter and the press conference from the Obama campaign were today, even though Friday isn't normally the day you push things into the media cycle that you want covered.

So in my estimation he's not at all doing what McCain wants, or since a picture is worth a thousand words...


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Absolutely! I'm psyched Obama is going to fight against that crap. It's totally in keeping with his community organizer past. It also shows he knows how to bring the fight to would be swiftboaters or anyone who thinks they can take him. Right on.

BTW, Unlike most activists and issue advocates, Obama has done the preparation to position himself popularly to actually win. Which is nice, for a change.

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YES!!!

Excellent letter, Mr. Bauer! Now keep going!!

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Could someone, anyone, ask Palin or McCain to be even a little more specific on just what ties they think Obama has with ACORN?

So far, all I have heard are generalized statements that Obama should come clean about his ties with ACORN. These generalized statements contain no specifics and only imply (nothing specific) that ACORN is somehow evil, and that Obama is somehow (not specified) related to ACORN.

MSM, get on it and give Americans some real reporting. Forget that "Liberal Bias" crap and give us some actual facts, not the same old she said, he said BS.

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The supposed connect is in an $800,000 + donation the Obama campaign made a bit back to a non-profit voter registration group that has "ties" to ACORN.

Hell, by this kind of association, you could claim that McCain is guilty of Congressional vote-selling because of the Abramoff convictions. I heard that your cousin knew somebody, who met this guy on the board of another group that officially sold their product to...

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Does anyone have an actual link about this supposed $800,000 story? I never heard of it before today. All I can turn up is wingnut rantings in blog posts and wingnut rantings in the comment sections of legitimate news stories. Based on this, I presume it's bogus, but I can't even find anything even describing the smear in any more detail than "ZOMG!!1! NOBAMA GAVE $800,000 TO ACORN FOR MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD HES GONNA SETUP A SOCIALIST GOVERMENT!!1!!" (and devolving into even less coherent racist claptrap from there.)

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Ah, I answered my own question; I hadn't realized that was part of McCain's smear during the debate. From the AP (actually doing their job for once):
"During this year's primary Obama's campaign hired a firm with ties to ACORN, for a get-out-the-vote effort."

So not surprisingly, no "donation." The AP didn't dig into what the supposed "ties" were (can't say I blame them, it's hardly worth pursuing.) By his own standard, McCain's campaign should "explain" his ties to the governments of Burma, Colombia, Nigeria, and Saudi Arabia, not to mention Saddam Hussein and Ahmed Chalabi, since his campaign is run by people with direct lobbying ties to those foreign governments.

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They know there's nothing there. Demanding that he "explain" without making any substantive charges feeds the twin smear-lines of implying that he's dishonest and allowing the listener to fill in their own content with whatever rumor and innuendo they've heard (or their imagination.)

So you're absolutely right; if we had real journalists, the first question would always be "What are you accusing him of? And if you're not accusing him of anything, what is there to 'explain'?"

John McCain should come clean about his relationship with Ahmed Chalabi!

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john mccain needs to come clean with the american people about his ties to SATAN HIMSELF! and he knows what i'm talking about.

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This is a fantastic tactic by the Obama camp. America has a laughably short memory - we need to be REMINDED that the USAG was booted out of office for this crap. We've already forgotten Abramoff, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Wiretaps, etc, just because they all happened more than 6 months ago, and as people forget it becomes easier for the GOP to make the argument that both sides are equally complicit, because nobody remembers the truth.

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TPM, getting cited! (see page 7)

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Did I miss something? Cited in page 7 of what?

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read the letter from bauer to DOJ (it's a hyperlink in the entry above)

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/Obama-Mukasey


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Ah yes, thank you!

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Barack Obama reads TPM!

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It's a good day for TPM - cited in an Obama campaign offensive, and name-dropped in the NY Times!

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The mucus boy will be out of a job if Obama wins; he's doing his best to keep in power the party that brought him employment. Maybe he, too, should be investigated in 2009. Re-education camps, anyone?

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Good job from the Obama campaign. They really need to send out Leahy, Schumer, Feingold, Whitehouse and Feinstein to the media to tie this into the USAG Scandal that their committee was looking at. Schumer loves being interviewed and is effective in this role. Feingold is great all around - passionate about it, a hardcore progressive, and best of all can tie it into his own state of WI where the Repubs have been up to shady stuff. Whitehouse was great because he's a former USAG. Leahy and Feinstein have MSM cred.

This is an area where the Dems have strong MSM cred to be able to go after this, if they get coordinated. Even better if the force Lil Lindsey to rush in to counter his committee member from the other side. :)


John

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Oh yeah--I wanna see Sen. Leahy nail McShame & Co. like he did that weasel Schlozmann!

Please, Senator???

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U.S. Attorneys Scandal! Yes! Thank you! This is what we need to be talking about.

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Let us see....from the National Socialist Manual of Propaganda....

Create an issue....

Validate it is an issue through manipulated "Official" authorities...

Find anecdotal evidence to accuse a systemic pattern

Call for action by the manipulated authorities

Use the authorities as a political arm....

Declare a menace is at hand, a threat to society


Arrest everyone

torture

hold Kangaroo Court trials

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Yes, this would be good news if I had the sense that 1] Mukasey gives a shit and 2] the Press/Media gives a shit. That's two shits. That's what they don't give.

Much more fun to have a "plumber" to kick around.

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I think kicking the fake plumber around -- and keeping it associated with McLiar's own mouth -- IN ADDITION is great: it exposes McLiar as the dishonorable, disgraceful liar he has ALWAYS been.

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I don't see this letter gaining any traction with the Dept of Justice, which, after all, is the department that is politicizing the FBI by having them investigate a perfectly legal organization, ACORN, on the eve of the election. Unless this gets heavy press coverage as what it is, the use of the Justice Department as a political branch of the Republican Party, it can cost Obama the election.

No one, no organization, no group is guilty of any form of illegality when they obtain voter registrations. If some of those registrations are fraudulent it is the sole responsibility of the state election officials to react to that by tossing the registration and notifying the person who fraudulently registered that he broke the law. When I register voters in California, I have no choice but to submit the registrations I obtain, even if one of those claims to be a Donald Duck registering to vote, and living in a graveyard. The state law here prohibits me from doing anything with a completed form other than mailing it in to the Secretary of State as if it were a perfectly filled out form.

When I register someone to vote, the only thing I am doing is supplying that person with a "do it yourself" registration form to fill in, and answering any questions he asks me about how to do so. Then my only obligation is to give that new voter a receipt and mail in the completed form. If that new voter registers as a Republican I have to give it exactly the same treatment as Democratic registrations.

Unfortunately Americans are so ill informed about just about everything that unless the TV news tells them otherwise they will believe this ACORN nonsense to be a voter fraud plot by the Obama campaign.

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This is political groundwork. Obama is going to own this issue in January, and push through voter reform legislation as well as law to prevent this sort of manipulation at DoJ.

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No one, no organization, no group is guilty of any form of illegality when they obtain voter registrations. If some of those registrations are fraudulent it is the sole responsibility of the state election officials to react to that by tossing the registration and notifying the person who fraudulently registered that he broke the law. When I register voters in California, I have no choice but to submit the registrations I obtain, even if one of those claims to be a Donald Duck registering to vote, and living in a graveyard. The state law here prohibits me from doing anything with a completed form other than mailing it in to the Secretary of State as if it were a perfectly filled out form.
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That sums it up nicely. But there's another aspect that must be communicated:

As an "abortion clinic" isn't actually an "abortion clinic," it is a "woman's health clinic" which MIGHT -- or MIGHT NOT -- include among its MANY services abortion -- ACORN is not SOLELY a voter-registration organization. ACORN does various forms of community outreach and organizing, one of the LEAST frequent being voter-registration.

And watch things locally, folks: that the Boston, MA office of ACORN was burglarized -- and its computers stolen -- is distrubing, especially in view of the fact that there is NO WAY any degree of voter disenfranchisement will help Republicans in MA.

And there are the death threasts against ACORN workers.

And pay attention: a reporter was assaulted at a Palin rally. Within days there will be reports of random assaults on minorities on the streets.

The Republican Party-of-Racism is seeing its opportunities evaporate, so this is their last chance to advance their America-hating agenda before a long, long period of time shoved back into the long-suffering cesspool which initially vomited them out in order to relieve its stomach.

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To follow up on the burglary in Boston: Note that in Las Vegas, the raid of the ACORN office, during which their computers and files were taken, means they have no way to do any GOTV follow-up with the 80,000 people they registered. The efforts in NV are being spearheaded by the U.S. attorney who replaced one who was fired during the scandal. This is so clearly about voter suppression. Raids and confiscation of computers in other jurisdictions would be more evidence -- not that we need more evidence.

Here's what I bet is pinned to Rick Davis' bulletin board: "Must. Keep. Poor. People. From. Organizing. And. Voting."

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There's a very good reason for states to require all registration forms to be submitted. If you recall, it used to be a common Republican tactic to collect registrations and throw away any that checked Democrat as a preference. Thus, people thought they were registered when they weren't.

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Isn't Friday the day you release news you want buried? I guess this means the Sunday Funnies will have this to talking about.

Obama needs to put out ads to push back on this smear effort.

I also would have liked them to spell out that it's not voter fraud unless the phony names try to vote on Nov. 4th. It's registration fraud, and it very likely wasn't done for nefarious reasons, but just for workers (albeit with poor judgment) to meet targets.

McCain spoke at an ACORN conference in 2006 to boot - why is he trying to hang this around Obama's neck, and why is Obama allowing him to do so.

ACORN is a boogeyman for the McCain Campaign, with the vast majority of folks not knowing what the hell he is talking about other than it's used against Obama so it must be evil.

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I admire Obama's initiative--wouldn't fault him for just riding this thing out--the guy doesn't get outraged--he gets deftly strategic.

This election isn't Obama's to lose. It's ours to lose.

We can whine, cry foul, get outraged until we're blue in the face.

So many of us take that energy and put it to good use. Write to your local newspapers, volunteer at local polling precincts, call the nearest Obama campaign office near you. Maybe they need help in another state--take a road trip.


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If this were just another campaign tactic, I would agree, but this one isn't just an attack on the Obama campaign, it's bigger. The Republicans for years now have been howling about "voter fraud" to undermine voting drives (that is, to put the good of their party above the will of the people.) They're setting it up to try to question the legitimacy of an Obama presidency, to enact strict voter qualification laws that are based on no evidence of fraud whatsoever but make it harder for more Democratic voters to vote, and as a supplement to their vote-suppression efforts, a large part of which are psychological (if people believe that they'll get hassled when they vote, marginal voters are less likely to come out.) When they have the power, they try to turn the Justice Department to reinforce it, and fired loyal Republicans who wouldn't go against the law to favor their party. When they were caught in violation of rules that prohibit timing prosecutions that might influence elections, they changed those rules.

This has been and remains a long-term project for them, and just because we can win this election by working hard doesn't mean we can afford to let it go. If we train really hard, we can win the race with the ten-pound weight around our necks, but we shouldn't kid ourselves that it's just another part of the race. Every day this zombie lie of "voter fraud" goes unchallenged is a day that it becomes more a part of the conventional wisdom.

McCain was right about one thing -- this is a threat to the fabric of our democracy. He was just wrong about which side the threat is coming from.

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Redshift,
The commitment in Boston as heralded from WTKK is to do everything possible to undermine Barack Obama politically and to work to impeach him.

The theft of Boston's ACORN files is certainly one of the tools they will use. The stage has been set by WTKK, whose geniuses are saying everyday that votes have been and will be stolen.

I will find their charges concerning ACORN and post them. But for now, please listen to the 14:49 broadcast from WTKK which calls for a "government in exile" led by their own idiot savant.

http://wtkk.everyzing.com/viewMedia.jsp?e=21117081&col=en-all-pod_wtkk-ep&q=OR+%22Chris+Dodd%22+OR+%22Senator+Dodd%22+OR+%22Christopher+Dodd%22&match=QUERY

He has worked on Buchanan's, Bush 1's, Giuliani's and many more campaigns. He's an advocate of attack ads and says he has written and produced them. WTKK is doing ACORN assaults daily.

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I also would have liked them to spell out that it's not voter fraud unless the phony names try to vote on Nov. 4th. It's registration fraud, and it very likely wasn't done for nefarious reasons, but just for workers (albeit with poor judgment) to meet targets.

The letter makes it clear that only a very, very small percentage is actual voter fraud. Mostly, it's clerical errors, typos, etc...and the Republcian's true purpose, thinly veiled as some sort of voters "rights" is, in fact, meant to stop votes. When McCain claimed ACORN could "destroy the fabric of democracy" it should have been a challenged to reporters everywhere. So far, not so much.

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Of course, the Corporate Media isn't reporting this story.
I see a ton of reports about Palin attacking Obama on ACORN, but they ignore this.
I still can't believe how impotent the media is these days, with Palin. She refuses to answer questions... all she does is spew lies... and they still cover her.

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Give 'em a chance. The will respond. I just wish that they didn't wait until we've been gabbing about it for days.

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Good to see Team Obama pushing back.

Wonder if any Obama surrogate will be willing to talk about the issue of abuse of power. I just can't bear to see Palin launching attacks with a straight face any more.

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It's time to put the DOJ and the AG on the spot about this. Gonzo tried to disqualify voters with bogus, partisan cases in 2004 and 2006. They won't get away with it this time. The light is on. the bugs are scattering.

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What about Bob Ney's infamous March 2005 hearing on "election fraud" which featured a report by the newly created GOP front, the American Center For Voting Rights?

In the report, the ACVR cited the Free Enterprise Coalition-funded civil RICO complaint brought by two Ohio residents against ACORN, ACT, the NAACP National Voter Fund and the Ohio AFL-CIO on 12/17/04. One of the bases for the case was the untrue charge that ACORN paid for fraudulent voter registrations with crack cocaine.

The lawsuit was dropped when NAACP attorney, Cliff Arnenbeck, noticed that Alex Vogel, a notorious GOP operative acting as an authorized representative of the FEC, had indemnified one of the plaintiffs in an offical document.

The Free Enterprise Coalition, another GOP front, was led by disgraced former congressman, Robert Livingston. In 2004, the FEC received $2.8 million from undisclosed sources which it promptly spent on schemes to disenfranchise Democrats.

I posted a lot of information about the FEC and the ACVR between May and July 2007 here in the TPM Cafe. Be sure to read the comments if you are interested.

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McDesperate has called down violent rage in an effort to achieve his lifelong dream of outranking his father. He could care less what the consequences are for this country once he is gone. If he did, then he would have never picked Palin.

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http://www.generationswithvision.com/default.aspx
Kevin Swanson advocate of "HATE and FEAR"

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Josh on the front page:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/238058.php

The Dems need to take the offensive on this. Look at what they have to marshall the Narrative within that state:

Governor of Wisconsin: Jim Doyle (D)
Secretary of State: Douglas J. LaFollette (D)
Senator: Herbert H. Kohl (D)
Senator: Russ Feingold (D)

Kohl and Russ have been Senators for 20 and 15 years respectively - they're institutions in WI. Doyle is a two term Gov (though he has ethics issues tossed at him from time to time).

These are powerful figure in the state to get out infront of this can drive the Narrative from WI. The GOP only has minor leaguers compared to these people. Who do you think Tweety or other talking heads would want to talk to - a US Senator or someone from the local GOP?

This isn't a bad issue for the Dems to turn around and toss in the GOP's face. After, the GOP has lied about _everything_ in this campaign, and doesn't want to talk about the Economy that "a concern of all of you". "Now they don't want you to vote."

This is a rare time for this issue to be a winner.

John

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Does anyone else think it's purely coincidental that the furor about ACORN started erupting at FOX News and on conservative talk radio immediately after the DOJ released its report on the US Attorney firings and Mukasey appointed Nora Dannehy as special prosecutor?

I'm sure that the timing is unrelated. I mean, I realize that the charges against ACORN are useful for casting doubt on this election, but it seems to me that they are at least equally useful for casting doubt on the DOJ report and Dannehy's investigation. It's a win-win for the GOP.

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The set up is at 6:30 of the following segment.
Just hit the arrow and you'll hear Point 7 which is regarding Jesse Jackson, I think.

Point 8: ACORN has already stolen the election.

http://wtkk.everyzing.com/viewMedia.jsp?res=346977937&dedupe=1&col=en-all-pod_wtkk-ep&e=21209990&il=en&num=10&s=PZSID_0000701953&start=0&q=ACORN&expand=true&match=query,channel&filter=0&y=0&x=0&index=2&seek=383.679

So there you have it. Somehow, WTKK has information which leads them to announce to the public that ACORN has already stolen the election.

I hope that the legal forces of Attorney Bauer will ask WTKK how they are so certain of these facts that they are broadcasting this to New England.

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I would encourage others to post anything from those who claim to have knowledge in advance about the stealing of the election.

This knowledge they have in advance of the election should be explored by the authorities.

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searching for more info on how to contact the DOJ and further support acorn - i see how far the hatred of the right has reached so quickly. the web is innundated with 'stopacorn' petitions and websites.
2 weeks or so ago when this horror show began (and i gave my first donation to acorn to try and help them weather the impending storm) a google search produced not much. now there are dozens upon dozens of hateful websites discrediting them and garnering support to fight the 'largest voter fraud blah blah blah'
the thought of these people wanting to trash and tear apart this righteous organization just made me break_down_completely into tears. This hurts my soul.

FYI in the 40 minutes since my last post with the letter to CNN (from acorns website) their website now reading an error message and is inaccesible
Error 503 Service Unavailable

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Obama very rarely goes on the offensive. His style is to "counterpunch". He is an extremely clever politician, he waits for the competion to make a move, devises a response, and usually makes them look foolish.

If you pay close attention, you will see where he sets subtle traps, by making general comments on a subject, without directing the comment toward the other side, then waits for them to conjur up a way to use his comment to attack him. Once they do, he springs his trap making them look foolish with the response he had waitng for them.

The "Gas Holiday" is a typical example. He toyed with the idea, went to his accountants to see what it would save the American driver, and realized it was not worth it.

He then made subtle mention of "something like a gas "holiday" or some other relief. Hillary and McCain jumped all over it, both of them calling for a "Gas Holiday"....then, Obama sprung his trap, calling it a "ploy", explained that it would only save the average American driver $28.00 a year, and made them both look like jerks.

Don't worry about "O", he knows what he's doing.

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So you don't care that voter fraud is being committed. Its people like you that make a big deal over tiny things, then blow off the important things.
If Obama is elected you can sure bet this country is going to suffer at his hands.

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