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White House Wants DOJ Action On Ohio Voting Case

Looks like the White House is having trouble getting out of the habit of using the Department of Justice for political purposes.

The Washington Post reports that President Bush has asked DOJ to look into a request by House Republican leader John Boehner that would force Ohio's Secretary of State to provide local election officials with information on 200,000 newly registered voters who have mismatched registration data. That could make it possible for Republicans to issue challenges to many of these voters, perhaps forcing them to cast provisional ballots.

Last week the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Ohio Republicans, who were seeking to force the Secretary of State, Democrat Jennifer Brunner, to provide the information on mismatches to local officials, did not have standing to bring the case.

Boehner announced yesterday in a press release that he had sent a letter earlier this week to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, asking him to take action, but received no response. He then turned to the White House for help -- warning in a letter to President Bush that if no action were taken, "there is a significant risk if not a certainty, that unlawful votes will be cast and counted."

White House Press Secretary Dana Perino characterized the move as "a routine step that would be taken for any such request from a congressional leader," according to the Post.

But it's worth remembering that much of the politicization of the Department of Justice that was exposed in the U.S. Attorneys scandal centered on voting issues, and specifically on an effort by the White House and DOJ to prioritize voter fraud prosecutions despite scant evidence that such fraud was occurring.

As voting rights groups point out, the mismatches at issue in this case are often nothing more than that the name on a voter's drivers license includes a middle initial, while that on his voter registration form does not.

Jon Greenbaum of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, told the Post: "This is taking the politicization of this to a new level."

We'll be watching this closely.


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"...and specifically on an effort by the White House and DOJ to prioritize voter fraud prosecutions despite scant evidence that such fraud was occurring."

Isn't this a misstatement? Shouldn't it be despite ZERO evidence? Or are you counting Ann Coulter?

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Correct but no evidence in a case never has stopped the Bush Administration in their unconstitutional efforts at voter suppression. G W Bush will go down in history as the President that involved himself in the biggest voter intimidation and suppression schemes and did more to set back equality in the voting system of our country than all other Presidents put together. In fact, that will be his entire legacy since he has flunked out in the other major areas of Presidential responsibility. His parents must be thoroughly ashamed of him. His father was a fine President but this guy has been one of our worst. Seems Bush Jr could not even hold a candle to Bush Sr. How sad and ashamed his parents must be.

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It seems that not only will they stop at nothing but they also will not learn from past mistakes. Here's hoping that Mukasey can see what a disaster this could become for him, the DOJ and the President.

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"No Taxation without Representation"

If you register to vote, and are denied the vote, then you should not have to pay taxes until you are giving the right to vote (at the same level).

That means, a four year tax holiday for those denied the right to vote.

Call it a reverse poll tax.

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I find it beyond disconcerting that the Rethuglicans persist in trying to take elections at any cost. I think the country acceded to the result in 2000 as much due to a fear of the consequences of challenging it as any notion of acceptance of the Supreme Court's institutional role as final arbiter. But I can't help thinking that if the electoral abuses become sufficiently frequent, blatant and egregious we will end up with a citizenry that rejects the legitimacy of its government. I can't even get my head around what happens then.

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Let's hope the word gets around that the ONLY branch of gov't authorized to address and resolve election disputes such as that in 2000 is stipulated in the Constitution:

CONGRESS.

In 2000, the UNELECTED SC subverted the Constitution by usurping that exclusive autority in order to unconstitutionally appoint the Bushit criminal enterprise.

With the massive turnout between now and 11/5 -- a landslide not only at the ballot but VISIBLY, not only in popular vote but also in Electoral -- no effort to steal the election will succeed.

No effort, regardless degree, will intimidate that mass of voters -- especially the lifelong Republicans who will have voted for Obama. If any final proof were needed that their decision was correct it will be any effort to intimidate the voters.

Regardless efforts, the Republican Party will this time fail, with the whole world watching, as it continues to self-immolate, self-cannibalize, implode

The right to vote belongs to the voters, not the gov't, and certainly not to any political party or interest.

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Oh. The coup. The first one.

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Edmund Burke had these egregious assholes pegged over 200 years ago:

Those who have been once intoxicated with power, and have derived any kind of emolument from it, even though but for one year, never can willingly abandon it. They may be distressed in the midst of all their power; but they will never look to any thing but power for their relief. -Letter to a Member of the National Assembly (1791)

...sound like anyone you know?

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Reminds me of that monkey trap. Where they leave food in trap. And the money can extract its hand only if it lets go of the food.

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Exactly!

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While I agree that the Republicans are politicizing this, I also am concerned about 200,000 problematic registration records. I fault the Republicans for getting in the way of reducing the uncertainty by playing politics. But why so many problems at this time?

"force Ohio's Secretary of State to provide local election officials with information on 200,000 newly registered voters who have mismatched registration data. That could make it possible for Republicans to issue challenges to many of these voters, perhaps forcing them to cast provisional ballots."

Shouldn't those voters who cannot clear up their status at the polls be required to cast provisional ballots? And wouldn't local election officials who abuse such information be guilty of unethical or perhaps criminal conduct?

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There have always been problems with any govt. roster, Eds. Please note that the Republicans are not calling for rolls to be checked in country club neighborhoods, though. I'll bet dollars to donuts that there are "errors" in such districts, as well.
My middle initial is on my voter registration but not on my license. I'm not voting fraudulently, though and there's nobody else at my house with an identical name and birthdate. I don't know why a damned thing needs to be "cleared up" as a result. This is why such snipe hunts are purely to de-legitamize valid votes and intimidate the powerless. It's easy.
Or has been in the past.

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If the discrepancies are a matter of an initial or a misspelling, i.e. Samuel J. Wurzelburger whose name is misspelled as Worzelburger on the OH voting rolls. IF the rethuglicans succeed they will kick off their mascot.

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Oooops,CORRECTION:
If the discrepancies are a matter of an initial or a misspelling, i.e. Samuel J. Wurzelbacher whose name is misspelled as Worzelbacher on the OH voting rolls. IF the rethuglicans succeed they will kick off their mascot.

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I have a long and hyphenated last name. I have received correspondence from both the city and the state that have mangled my last name.

I have registered to vote in good faith why should I be penalized if someone at the county registrar forgot the hyphen. Provisional ballot? I don't think so!!


I was once challenged at a polling place because my brother and I and my dad all have the same initials. Our whole names didn't fit on THEIR rolls and the republican poll worker thought it odd that three folks with the same name were all registered at the same address. AND THIS WAS IN CALIFORNIA. I suspect if our names had been John Smith Jr. & Sr. and Joe Smith I wouldn't have been hassled.

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People should be required to be legally registered to vote.
However, what is going on here is not an effort to prove people are illegally registered to vote.

What is going on here is an effort to make it more difficult for people to vote in Democratic precincts. This servers the dual purpose of:

1. raising questions in people's minds (have I re-registered since I moved - did my father, with the same name register at another address and because of that, I'll be questioned when I go to the polls)

2. Making voting take longer in Democratic Precincts. If they challenge someone in line in front of you, it makes the line move more slowly.

For a variety of reasons, Democratic constituencies move more often and tend to have a harder time getting to the DMV to change their addresses.

So challenging voters who have discrepancies between their DL and their registration information is a convenient way to suppress Democratic turn out.

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The so-called problematic registrations are very common and are usually just clerical. If you're curious as to how this works, save your mail for a couple days and see how many different permutations of your name and address show up. Abbreviated street (such as ave. or rd.) vs. unabbreviated. Middle initial or not. Whole name or shortened version. Five-digit zip or nine. Apt. or unit. Two names or hyphenated name. All of these things can flummox a computer doing a screening for matches.

How common? In Wisconsin, four of the six members of the Government Accountability board, which oversees voter registration in Wisconsin, all of them retired judges, got their registrations kicked out of the system. The chair, for instance, Thomas Cane, is "R. Thomas Cane" on his driver's license. If it can happen to these guys, imagine how common it is for the average voter.

These are voter suppression tactics, plain and simple. I could understand this sudden rush to vigilance on this issue if there was a hint of a documented in-person voter fraud in this country, but the opposite is true. One account I read said there were five proven cases of it from 2003-'05. If this is worth placing obstacles between millions of citizens and the franchise, I can't for the life of me imagine why.

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Eds -

As someone who has had "mismatching information data" scratch him from the polls twice, I can tell you that this is not the correct approach. First, you have no idea that they have scrapped your registration until you arrive at the polls - too late to do anything. Second, when you try to correct their mistakes - you often can not. I had to go to the city courthouse twice in order to find what the comparison record was that did not match. As it turned out, the office of social security had miscopied my address supplied to it by my employer (the University of Utah Medical Center)...

So, I just don't buy it when I read that there is an information mismatch as evidence of voter fraud. Oh - the mismatch? All the streets in Salt Lake City have East, West, North, or South as a starter. They did not place the "E" in front of my street address at the office of social security. That was it - and I could not vote for a year.


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Rep. John Boehner:

"if no action were taken, there is a significant risk if not a certainty, that unlawful votes will be cast and counted."

Translation:

"If we don't suppress some of these votes, we're fucked"

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The "risk" is mostly that Bonehead will be found to be lying, as the "risk" of vote fraud is essentially non-existent.

Yo, Dickhead: this is how the process works:

1. Voter registration activists register voters.

2. Voter registration information is turned over by the activists to the state voter registration OFFICIALS.

3. Voter registration OFFICIALS eliminate problem registrations.

4. Only legitimate voters vote.

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We all have Schumer to thank for Mukasey and Schumer should be speaking out NOW about this.

Now I have something else to worry about - a relative in California has told me extreme far right wingnuts and evangelicals will be voting in large numbers this year due to Prop 8 (the anti gay marriage amendment) on the ballot.

We cannot take anything for granted anywhere.

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Maybe while the DOJ is at it they could look into the republican's caging practices, the voting machines that switch votes (and never from republicans to democrats), and maybe they could ask the Ohio RNC to verify all the newly registered republicans (or republican).

Can these people not win an election without cheating and stealing?

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The DOJ is at the same time receiving complaints demanding investigation of voter intimidation by a thug PI hired by thug "lawyer" Pat Rogers, who is a Republican Party member.

Let's see how they try to publicly finagle the effort to publicly intimidate ACORN, and on the ground intimidate voters already found to be legitimate, with the conflicting demand to prevent voters voting.

The vast majority is watching this election closely, and the propaganda against voters and voting hasn't been sufficient for the Republicans to succeed -- especially in view of its history since 2000. It's make-or-break, and the Republican Party is going down, publicly seen for the anti-American criminal enterprise it is.

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You are correct about the humans walked with the dinosaurs crowd coming out of the woodwork for Prop 8. Most of the "Yes" funding comes from Utah and the Mormon church.
And (although I'd not want to allay any efforts until election day) I think there is a groundswell in the way of countermeasure, too.
People are sick of the backward agitprops and most Californians don't feel threatened by gay marriage.
So, No on H8 has a pretty huge backing with voters.
You should see the nonsense Yes on 8 ads, false in every way...insisting gay marriage will be taught in schools and no parent would be allowed to remove their child from hearing the "curriculum" "mandated" by the state. Just complete crap.

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What percentage of CA bvoters are extreme right evangelicals?

Clue: the more extreme the political position, the least adherents it has. That it is extreme makes it an extreme minority.

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eds: "While I agree that the Republicans are politicizing this, I also am concerned about 200,000 problematic registration records. I fault the Republicans for getting in the way of reducing the uncertainty by playing politics. But why so many problems at this time?...Shouldn't those voters who cannot clear up their status at the polls be required to cast provisional ballots? And wouldn't local election officials who abuse such information be guilty of unethical or perhaps criminal conduct?"

It is my understanding that the databases that the Republicans wanted the registrations checked against are problematic or not appropriate for such purpose. They're waging war on the vote on *all* fronts.

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The registrations in question are mostly bogus issues such as some leaving out their middle initial when they registered or people serving in the military who give their home address. It is just another shameless attempt on the part of the republicans to disenfranchise democrats.

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Thanks for posting this, Zach, and an additional thanks to David Kurtz for posting a link on the main page-- this topic needs to be pushed, and pushed hard.

Not to say the Todd debacle doesn't deserve a certain amount of attention (as evidence of increasing instability among McCain's base, if nothing else) but it's more noise than signal at a crucial juncture: namely, when a sitting president is actively involved in trying to influence the outcome of an election.

Here's hoping we see this topic in play among the major news orgs by Tuesday at the latest.

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Tell me we have enough smart people among the Democrats to make sure all these Republican shenanigans don't cost us the election.

If we get Obama elected, I hope we can clear up some of these election issues before the next election gets here. And also hold some of the scoundrels responsible for this weird, last minute activity accountable.

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Thank you for watching this closely. I hope the other news media do the same.

Hey, what about old registrants? I bet a lot of those have "discrepancies" too. I hope everyone in Ohio realizes that their vote is being threatened by Bush and the Republicans. Like the slimy robo-calls, this ploy should backfire.

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The 'Joe the Plumber' guy's name didn't match his voter registration, a difference between an 'o' and a 'u'. Of course he should vote- that isn't fraud, it's just a typo. I'm sure this thing is true of many judges and policemen, etc. It's just that many new registrants are supporting the other guy...
Uh... do I get a pipe-smoking avatar? I just noticed how many of them there are.

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What do ya know? I never paid attention to the everyperson avatar.
I'll have to imagine the contents of the pipe, now.
Serious thoughts.

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If Mukasey does try to fix Ohio for a third straight election, Brunner should just defy him -- and depend on the ensuing "Free Jennifer" fundraisers to bail her out. By the time it is sorted out the young, black and restless new voters the R's are trying so hard to keep from voting will have cast their ballots.

Ah, democracy American-style.

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Well I guess this means Ohio will have to do the Supreme Court thing again or threaten too - do a stand off until Bush is out of Office.

The Bush cartel wants control, Ohio just needs to tell them NO way. I don't think Ohio need follow suit, as the Supreme Court has spoken, even the conserative banch of it - so follow the court route and buy time.

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Bushie, Boehner and like ilk best keep in mind the Anglo Saxon dictum underlying American law,,,"better eleven scoundrels go free than an innocent man hang",,,,, a few goofs do not election fraud make. The 200,000 folks will be easily intimidated by the provisional ballot modallity into not voting. Wonder if Bushie will deputize his buddy Ken Blackwell to come back to Ohio and do his dirty work.

As Mother Johnes said, "Raise Hell",,,,, this stuff stinks to high heaven. Let's find ways to raise sufficient hell asap to nip this in the bud.

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That's my question, can the state of Ohio refuse the justice department's interference? There's got to be a way to prevent the president from fixing elections for his party.

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Of course the Bushies are emboldened:It's what happens when subponeas are allowed to be ignored by the congress & how about impeachment,it was taken off the table by the corrupt Pelosi.Don't blame the Rape-publicans ,they are doing what any petulant child will do who is permitted no boundary by a neglectful parent.It's the dem leadership who have allowed this BS.

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So here is what we have to do -
1 poll working should be like jury duty. It is a civic duty- a person should be called up and trained to work an election cycle. No more depending on old retired people - no offense intended
2 - national voting should be just that- senate, congress person and president only. All other ballot and state questions could be handled by the states themselves choosing voting days.
3- election day should be either a weekend or national holiday
4. Polls should open and close in in the same time frame - say 9AM eastern time, 6 AM pacific and close the same way.
5. early voting should be encouraged and made as easy as possible.
6. Accomodations should be made for long lines such as -providing folding chairs and shade- if the deli can give you number to place your order- why can't you get a number to vote at a polling place. That way you can sit down or get some water or food without losing your place in line. Poll workers should work the lines- answering questions and maybe solve problems before they start.
7- Voters should take initiative to - be informed, have proper credentials, make sure their ID information is correct before they head to the polls.
8 Every single voter should recieve a paper print out of their vote. That way if the vote was incorrect it can be fixed and the print out could be passed to a voting box in case of a recount.
9 The voting method should be consistant throughout the country - personally I think a pencil and ballot would be the best- but every state in the union should use the same method for national elections.

Is any of this so hard? This election has energized so many people - if we put it to good use and get behind some new ideas- we can make a difference. Otherwise we're just blowing smoke in the blogosphere.

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I like your suggestions MassLass.

I've always wondered why there are so many different types of ballots. This is one country and we should have a standardized way to vote in every state.

And I really like the idea of having a printout of your ballot. I voted today here in Texas and I would have loved to have proof that I voted for Obama.

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The problem with a receipt that shows who you voted for is that it has the potential to do away with the protections of the secret ballot.

If you can prove who you voted for, it is a lot easier for someone to buy or coerce your vote.

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Does Marbury v. Madison have any application here or is King George above the law.

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Marbury v. Madison is the law, and applies, and Bush and others believe that they are above the law.

Whether or not it's the case that "the ONLY branch of gov't authorized to address and resolve election disputes such as that in 2000 is . . .
CONGRESS" the current dispute in Ohio (Ohio Republican Party v. Jennifer Brunner, Ohio Secretary of State) is not one of the "election disputes such as that in 2000".

In Ohio Republican Party v. Jennifer Brunner, Ohio Secretary of State, the Ohio Republican Party sought a injunction to compel the Ohio Secretary of State to take actions that the Ohio Rep. Party contended were required by federal law (Help America to Vote Act -- HAVA).

The US Supreme Court held unanimously that there was insufficient likelihood that the Congress would be found at trial to have intended to give standing to private parties, including the Ohio Republican Party, to enforce Section 303 of HAVA tfor the Ohip R. Party to meet the heavy burden imposed on one seeking the "extraordinary relief" of an injunction. The Court expressly made no statement on the merits of the case -- i.e., whether Ohio was properly enforcing Section 303 of HaVA.

Boehner has taken the rules stated (properly -- Brunner, Ohio Secretary of State v. Ohio Republican Party was a great victory for the rule of law) by the Court and moved to have the one party with standing -- i.e., the Executive Branch -- either threaten to bring suit or in fact bring suit.

If a peition for injunctive relief is filed Monday -- or Sunday: the fed courts are always open -- and expedited consideration is granted, the case could be back in the Supreme Court on the merits before the election.

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If the Supreme Court is reckless enough to take this case and rule prior to the election - a distinct possibility - it could do enormous additional damage to the Court.

I might add that it is absurd to "legislate" something that assumes a bunch of databases will store a person's name in the same way. I am not familiar with the history of the legislation, but didn't anyone mention that that it would be a Herculean and possibly even an impossible task to reconcile a set of slightly different records, all legitimately created to point to a single individual?


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The whole world is aware what happened in 2000 and since.
Only in the u.s. where bushcon owns the media are their intents even questionable.Eveyone else already knows.
The whole world also knows this financial mess is the direct result of bushcon.
What is at stake now is jail time for many if not all the looters.
They must have a pardon man in charge.
They must make this election at least seem close.Then with legal actions bushcon can shade/delay/overturn/etc any outcome, even create some riots and declare marshall law and give the election to the "courts" to decide.
If you think that's too loopy look what they have already done in the past. This is easy in comparison.
Don't ever forget grandpoppy bushcon supported nazi germany for profit, poppy bushcon ran the cia and traded drugs for missles while raygun was reading scripts.
These guys face jail if their man is not inside the house.
You think they care what this looks like now?
Stay focused. Bushcon employees do not intend to spend any time in jail.
They not only want to spend all their looted cash while the world watches, they want to target anyone who questions their motives.
What you see now in bushcon is the result of a lifetime living in your own sewage.
Their worst fear is truth.

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Notice how this is happening in Ohio AGAIN? My goodness I can't wait to toss Bush out of office. Jan 20th won't just be a celebration of Obama, but one of no more Bush.

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This is exactly that...an attemopt to supress the vote involving the same characters...the WH and the DoJ. Seems Bush and Mukasey have nothing to lose since they will both be out of office soon. But we have a lot to lose. This needs to be publicized to the point that Boehner should be under investigation and charged with an ethics violation.

Since there is zero incidence of "voter" fraud, there is no precedence here that any would be committed yet Boehner "assumes" it will and uses that as an excuse to try to prevent 200,000 registered voters from voting.

That is equivalent to closing down city hall because someone came out of the door with a lit cigarette in his hand and so security assumes city hall might burn down because there might be a match still burning somewhere in the building.

The WH is acting in a bizarre unsound manner trying to get the DoJ into a frenzy assuming that the sky is falling because Boehner claims "it could happen". The SC has ruled and they are certainly more qualified to offer a ruling than the WH. This action comes out on a Friday hoping to be played down when in fact it is intolerable and should not be permitted.

Sort it out after the election because everyone knows they will not find one incident of someone willing to risk prison to vote illegally. If one or two were found stupid enough to attempt that it still would not affect the elections... whereas suppressing 200,000 votes with provisional ballots would definitely affect the election...illegally.

Republicans prove themselves to be completely lacking in integrity once again putting party above the American people.

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Is Mukasey stupid enough to sacrifice himself for George Bush and the boys?

Let's find out.

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"...White House Press Secretary Dana Perino characterized the move as "a routine step that would be taken for any such request from a congressional leader,"..."

If this is true then let a dem congressional leader make a "routine request" to the WH to sty out of the RNC's attempt to suppress the vote based on zero incidence of "voter" fraud...and the ridiculous assumption that a few possible voters willing to risk prison to vote illegally is worth suppressing 200,000 legitimate voters by putting them on provisional ballots that never get counted.

Let's see how Dana Perino characterizes that.

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Do they have the right to do this? This is a state issue. What the hell does the federal government have to do with this?

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Do they have the right to do this? This is a state issue. What the hell does the federal government have to do with this?
What did they have to do with the 2000 election? Same scenario, but Florida. The American's acceptance of this method of electing a president was thus born and has become . . . THE LAW OF BUSH! "We, The People" did this. Now it is time to redeem ourselves and say and act boldly . . . NOT THIS TIME MR. BUSH!
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I see the good old GOP stelling another Election. They just cannot get out of the habit of stealing Elections. I hope that this stolen Election will come out different. But with the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA I have my DOUBTS. We the PEOPLE have to step in and brake up the CCM or the GOP will never stop ther STELLING elections. We shall see how they can steal this election,or not.

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We must remember that there is an investigation being conducted as we speak against the DOJ for the politicization of their offices. And the important fact is that Attorney General Michael Mukasey hasn't responded. He really risks being investigated himself. So would Mukasey defy the US Supreme Court or Bush with just 10 days left until the election? Alberto Gonzales is still under investigation for doing the very same thing. My hope is that he doesn't want to get involve simply because he has no right to go against the US Supreme Court. I have the suspicious feeling that it was more Cheney than Bush but who knows what really going on in the White House these days.

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Acting in a way that violates the voting rights of huge numbers of citizens where there exists no opportunity to affect the outcome of the election is a numerically ridiculous proposition. This is analogous to the illegal wiretapping efforts of the Bush administration. Can it more apparent that the stated intent is very different from what is truly being sought? This is nothing less than another example of the dishonesty of republicans.

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The long and the short of it is that John
Boehner is nothing more than Ken Blackwell in whiteface.

The smackdown for this bunch is long overdue. Raise Hell. Write Sherrod Brown letters of indignation. Write letters of support to Gov Strickland and Jennifer Brunner. Let's all Raise Hell.

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It's the best "justice" thuggery can buy.

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Will someone please put the cuffs on this administration. Better yet, a straight jacket.

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Translation:

"If we don't suppress some of these votes, we're fucked"

Could not have said it any better!
Boehner's statement reeks desperation . . . .
we're losing, we're losing . . . do something . . . I don't care what it is . . . help . . . we're losing.

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Well early voting in OH is going on, so all you new registrants, GET VOTING!

The GOP is hoping to get many of the new registrants caged, stuck with provisional ballots that will be discarded. But if they vote early (on a regular ballot), then the GOP is stuck, because there's no way to tell which votes came from new registrants (with database mismatches) and which from those without mismatches, or with older registrations.

Throw out ALL early ballots (suuuurrre...)? Equal protection, Bush v. Gore, anyone?

Ask the new registrants how they voted? ("oh, I voted for McCain..go ahead and subtract one from his totals, I'll vote again, for real this time, on election day *snicker*")

Even forcing new registrants that haven't voted yet to use provisional ballots runs right up against the "Bush v. Gore" equal protection issue; not that the USSC doesn't deserve to have their nose rubbed in it.

But in any case, I'm pretty sure that OH can delay any action by the DOJ until after the election.

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A 2005 report by the League of Women Voters of Ohio and the Coalition on Homelessness and Housing in Ohio, for example, found that of more than 9 million votes cast in the state's 2002 and 2004 general elections, there were four instances of ineligible people attempting to vote. The data were collected from interviews with all 88 county Boards of Election

(Source: Jon Craig, "Update: Ohio Voter Fraud Rare", Cincinnati Enquirer, Oct 14, 2008.)

If Bush want the DOJ to investigate fraud, then perhaps he needs to review Conyers and the House Judiciary Dem Staff's "Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio" January, 2005.

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There's another thing that to me illuminates the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Voter registration here in Texas (and I think my Indiana registration was the same) is an affadavit that you are indeed an eligible voter. Dems' default position is that you know what you're doing and are honest. The Republicans' default position assumes you don't know what you're doing and are dishonest.

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I'm just wondering what is the Democratic response. So far, I haven't heard of a Dem response aimed specifically at countering Boehner's request or Bush's response. Are any of you aware of a counteraction by the Dems?

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true confession: i'm no lawyer but i know more details about federal election law than i realized i do about how the real-life challenges work.

i've just never seen it in action while voting anywhere. so, please let me know something: is there a typical way of handling the challenges that require that voting basically be halted?

for what it's worth:

every state is required to allow a provision vote be cast by any voter who beleves he is registered.
NO VOTER CAN FACE ANY PENALTY WITHOUT PROOF OF KNOWINGLY...KNOWINGLY...trying to commit fraud. saying that your registration is up to date when you're not sure if you had changed an address, for example, can not be used against any voter.

to the point: LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF THEY GO TO THE POLLS, THEY CAN VOTE.

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I'm an Ohio resident and it seems like I might be one of those mismatches. My divorce was final last year and I changed my voter registration back to my maiden name. When I went to change my car's title, however, I was told they don't do that for divorce and "don't worry, it's fine!" So now my voter registration no longer matches my vehicle registration. Fantastic!

So, can they challenge early ballots? If your early ballot is challenged, do they have to notify you and let you, you know, shove your US passport and birth certificate down their throats?

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They match it to your drivers license and social security number. They are supposed to use the DL first and only go to the SSN (for which records tend to be less acurate) as a second check if necessary. I don't believe they match it to your vehicle registration, unless that is specific to OH. But if you have any doubts please call your county clerk's office. They will be able to look up your registration and let you know how the name reads.

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An article in the BBC is what caught my eye, though it's hard to tell if this matter has since been settled by the courts. It mentions that "more than 200,000 registered voters in Ohio may be challenged over their right to vote", but the Secretary of State has said that although yes, there are "200,000 cases where voter registration did not match social security or motor vehicle registration records" (emphasis mine), most were mistakes.

Later in the article it points out that the GOP says it will also "seek to challenge the ballots of those newly registered voters who have already voted by absentee ballot."

It seems to me that if the GOP can challenge people based on their names not matching vehicle registrations, and Ohio doesn't change vehicle registrations based on marriage or divorce, there's going to be a very serious problem come election day.

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