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Gonzo: I'm A Casualty Of The War On Terror
Looks like Gonzo still doesn't quite get it.
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales -- under whose tenure the Justice Department often appeared to take its orders from the White House political office -- sat down with the Wall Street Journal in an effort to clear his name. But we're guessing he did himself more harm than good.
Gonzo appeared genuinely unable to grapple with why he might be unpopular. "What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?" he asked.
And he wasn't above wallowing in self-pity, making a comparison that would likely rankle families of 9/11 and Iraq war victims: "[F]or some reason, I am portrayed as the one who is evil in formulating policies that people disagree with. I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror."
What about that infamous hospital visit, in which Gonzales, at the time the White House counsel, along with White House chief of staff Andy Card, pressed then-AG John Ashcroft to sign off on a secret government program while Ashcroft was hospitalized -- and, by some accounts, going in and out of consciousness -- after gall bladder surgery? Gonzo has no regrets. "I found Ashcroft as lucid as I've seen him at meetings in the White House," he said.
He also took a shot at James Comey, the respected former DOJ official who revealed details of the hospital visit in Congressional testimony: "He didn't have the decency to notify anyone what he was about to testify," Gonzales said of Comey. "That was extremely disappointing."
And Gonzo put the blame for the memos authorizing torture squarely on John Yoo, the then-DOJ lawyer who wrote them -- even though even though there's no evidence that Gonzo, as White House counsel, raised any objection.
Reports the Journal:
John Yoo, the then-Justice official who had been assigned to draft the memos, had strong feelings and no one could have pressured him to write the memos a certain way, Mr. Gonzales said.
Gonzo also told the Journal he's at work on a book about his tenure at DOJ to set the record straight. He doesn't have a publisher, but is writing it "for my sons, so at least they know the story."
And he's not having much success in his post-government career. Says the paper:
The Harvard Law School graduate, onetime corporate lawyer and Texas judge also hasn't been able to land a job. He has delivered a few paid speeches, done some mediation work and plans to do some arbitration, but said law firms have been "skittish" about hiring him.
It's hard being a casualty of the war on terror.













I'm not as a rule a swearing woman, but when it comes to this motherf_cker I see red & make the exception. What a self-absorbed, self-serving pr_ck.
December 31, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
That about says it all: Gonzales thinks that witnesses should coordinate their testimony. In his world, obstruction of justice is only common decency.
December 31, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gonzales has lied & justified to himself so much over all this, it's the only "truth" he knows & can tell. What a babbling ass. Keep babbling, Fredo.
Would love to get him on the witness stand so he could perjure himself telling the court the same shit he told WSJ. Easy pickings.
December 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sadly, he is not cooling his heels in a prison cell... THAT is what his so-called service merits. As for his inability to land a job: what self-respecting law firm would want and lying incompetent in their midsts? And now it appears he is going to lie to his sons. Of course, this is typical GOP behavior.
December 31, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
There are going to be a lot of happy people at the Department of Justice come January 20. Gonzales soiled this place for a lot of us. Time for a little housecleaning.
December 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I won't be happy until I see Gonzales standing on a K Street corner wearing a sandwich board...
"Will lie, cheat and steal for food"
December 31, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Laying the blame at Yoo's feet is particularly grating.
Gonzales should admit the failure was ultimately his - he was detached, outgunned and did not protest - against the Cheney-Addington-Yoo iron triangle.
Yoo's memos got a voice because Gonzales allowed it. Blaming Gonzales for the torture memos is, rightly, the same concept as holding CEO's accountable for their actions. Buck (should have) stopped with Gonzalez.
Instead he was too busy delivering "lip service" about how important it was to protect government records:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHHdMhyLEE&feature=channel_page
December 31, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm. That kinda portrays him as opposed. My impression was that he was very complicit.
December 31, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
If only I believed in an afterlife, because for this statement alone, Gonzales should suffer the eternal fires of damnation: "I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror."
Can someone please send him a link to photos of some of the ACTUAL casualties of the war on terror? And then explain the causal relationship between his choices and their suffering?
December 31, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Kind of makes one wonder what it takes to get through Harvard Law. Must one be lacking in self-awareness, scruples, backbone and wits? Or just a Bush buddy?
December 31, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're right. How much of what's wrong in the US today, torture, rule of law, financial melt down, etc can be traced to lack of ethics or concern for others. More ethics and social responsibility needs to be taught at Yale, Harvard, Wharton and such, as it sure didn't seem to be taught at home.
December 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Take it further than that. Harvard, Yale, Stamford, Wharton etc grads ran Wall Street. They ran the legal establishment. And, interspersed with Regent, Ave Maria and Texas Christian University grads, they ran government during the Bush Administration.
I think those schools collectively need to consider more then ethics.
December 31, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did you see his last line in the interview? The reporter calls him on a recent lie, and he says, ""At that point, I didn't care."
It's clear that's what he says EVERY day, about everything.
He justifies it all. Nothing was his fault. Everyone is hurting him. Sarcasm befitting a seventh grader. This interview, to my surprise, floored me. I don't usually resort to clinical questions, but I feel provoked. Is he a psychopath, or an arrested pubescent?
and... he has sons? Someone call Child Protective Services.
December 31, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know! It is all so juvenile. Instead of a Harvard Law grad, (and former AG), he sounds like a 10 year old:
"But why am I the only one in trouble? Johnny, Georgie and Dicky and Davey did it too! How come they're not in trouble?" Whaaaah
December 31, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I know this is the most trivial thing about the hideous interview, but it mentions that he hasn't been able to find work. I thought he was hired as General Counsel of Facebook. Did that not go through? Or do they just mean that he can't get hired by a law firm (because they no one wants to hire a known perjurer)?
I have been refusing my friends' entreaties to sign up because I thought Gonzo worked there. Of course, it still says something about Facebook that they would even consider hiring him.
December 31, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Gonzalez is right, in a sense. Those were times that tried the souls of people in the executive branch, and he was found wanting. Without the War on Terror, he would have lived out his life as a dishonest, barely competent cretin without leaving much of a mark. Instead, he became truly, actively evil.
I think a good long stint in solitary would give him time to reflect on this fact, and perhaps to repent.
December 31, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why don't we make him a prisoner of the War on Terror and subject him to his own rulings out there at Club Gitmo.
December 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm...the persecution complex and exaggerated sense of entitlement are strong in this one...
December 31, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's just floating down that river in Egypt...
December 31, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What does it mean to be a victim of the "war on terror" for Gonzo? Did he get shot at in Iraq? Did he get unlawfully detained at gitmo? Did he get illegally tortured? Did he get illegally wiretapped? How can you call yourself a victim when you are the perpetrator. If he is a victim then so are Bush and Cheney. Gonzo is a piece of S**t.
December 31, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course I understand your point, but:
"Did he get illegally wiretapped?"
Yes, of course he did. We all did.
December 31, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
DON'T TELL ME THAT YOU EVEN CONSIDER "ZIG-ZAG ZELL" AS CAPABLE OF MAKING AN INTELLIGENT STATEMENT.
He was a LIAR and a FOOL when I had him as an
English Teacher @ Young Harris College, long before he got to spew his lies and bullshit on State Government here in GA.
December 31, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gonzo here is your answer if you or your minions are listening...It comes from a testimony at Nuremberg where the Germans once top legal mind tried to explain himself:
You see you say you are a casualty of the "War on Terror", but you America knew better we knew you are the casualty of the "Permanent Majority Strategy", propelled by the corporate plutocracy that has wormed its way to almost complete control. We also know the following
Those were the words of Janning the top legal mind. Gonzo you are not a casualty of something bigger than yourself, you are a casualty of yourself. For was it this as Janning put it?
No it was simple manipulation. You see like Germany, the Bush Administration and the entire corporate plutocracy knows that they simply can't take something, they need legal justification and authority and it was you who provided that means.
It was you who allowed the Bush Doctrine to have political life---preemptive war of choice, GITMO, Abu Ghraib and the definition of torture that allowed torture, rendition and perpetual incarceration. It was you who found the justification to spy on every American, then to lie and hide from Congress all this. It was you who gave legal life to all this but not for a mortal war against terror, no for a "Permanent Majority" of the corporate plutocracy.
We know Gonzo, yes we know.
Hear is some advice. Do what the Mob does when they are cornered and can give up bigger fishes. Don't take the sword for them, give up Bush and Cheney. Give up the plutocracy, save your soul.
December 31, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice comment.
The corporate plutocracy is probably the most guilty perp among the lot. But to hold onto power, they had to empower the neocon and social-conservative (religious) fruitcakes. An odious alliance, to be sure.
December 31, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Gonzo WILL give them up. He has seen the fleeting success of the former Press Secretary Scott McClellan and he wants his fifteen minutes. He will give them up. Weasels always do.
January 1, 2009 11:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully, Gonzales will not be the only "casuality of the war on terror." There are many others and the readers here already know who they are.
The election of Obama was greeted world wide as establishing that the American people are fed up with their governments politically corrupt behavior for the past eight years.
The prosecution of our own war criminals would re-establish world wide that the U.S. has the sense of democratic justice that it proclaims to have.
The American people are paying a heavy price for the corruption of the White House and the corruption of their Congress.
You don't have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
December 31, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I found Ashcroft as lucid as I've seen him at meetings in the White House," he said.
I couldn't help but read this as an evaluation of Ashcroft's level of lucidity when he's not anesthetized. Of course, that's not how Gonzo meant it, more's the pity.
December 31, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd love to know if people like Gonzo believe their own bullshit. It's like Republicans need an intervention, where their families confront them and just tell them it's bullshit, it's bullshit.
December 31, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh my yes, Fredo believes his own bullshit- that's part of the deception deal, self deception so you can look in the mirror & your children's eyes, go to communion on Sunday & never once confess to the parish priest what a bad, bad boy you've actually been.
December 31, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that's what made the Bush crew different from Newt Gingrich and the crooks of Nixon's henchmen - it's not just corruption and Machiavellian power grabs, they really believe this crap. And I think it's more frightening than "ordinary" corruption, because it's absolutely impossible to shame any of them into turning over - they really don't feel that they've done anything wrong.
December 31, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
George Baker and a few others tried that a while back. They were ignored.
January 1, 2009 11:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gonzo cannot understand what he has done to be vilified in such a manner. This is the main one for me. Only video can do it justice. Watch the link below. It made me love Arlen Specter even though he is a republican.
This man's logic is shockingly pathological. Out of all of the twisted testimony he has given, this link shows the blatant disregard of the very constitution he was sworn to uphold.
December 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Comments are screwy today. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFqYVAOosM
December 31, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Comments are screwy today. Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFqYVAOosM
December 31, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What Gonzalez is a victim of is his own desire to slavishly serve an immoral man instead of serving the cause of Justice and the American People.
December 31, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the WSJ article:
"Mr. Gonzales was at a meeting in San Antonio the day of Mr. Comey's surprise testimony. "He didn't have the decency to notify anyone what he was about to testify," he said. "That was extremely disappointing." Mr. Comey declined to comment."
Isn't it fascinating that no one at the DOJ would sign off on a "critical" FISA application on the day that Comey testified about the "no legal basis" Program?
I'll remind you that that "critical" FISA application was used by DNI McConnell to convince congress to give Gonzales immunity for any FISA violations.....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/105341/20/522/678844
December 31, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
In this new year, Gonzales' blessings include: (1) he is alive, (2) his mentor's new pretend 'think tank' on the SMU campus will soon open, and (3) wealthy Republican-Methodists can fund a position for him - he will find 'work'. These and other circumstances differentiate our former Attorney General from other 'casualties' of the war on terror, such as hundreds of thousands of dead innocent Iraq civilians, four thousand-plus dead innocent American soldiers, an un-known number of dead innocent American mercenaries, the 'enemy combatants' tortured and murdered and countless others 'rendered' (i.e. 'disappeared'). One self-described 'casualty' seeks to clear his name by visiting the editors of the Wall Street Journal, while the families of real casualties visit cemeteries and seek for reasons.
December 31, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
A casualty? Not bloody likely. Put him in a container at Bagram for a while, then "render" him somewhere for a month or two, then to Guantanamo for open-ended incarceration, then maybe he's casualty. Until then, perpetrator is more fitting.
December 31, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a pattern emerging of Bush administration officials, including the president, simply being innocent bystanders while all these horrific things happened on their watch.
Did the Cheney - Libby - Addington axis of evil have such sway that it created unalterable conditions that could not be changed? In the party of personal responsibility, is there such a recognition of failure that no one wants to admit they were responsible? Or is it a little of both?
We'll begin to learn in a couple of weeks when leakers and whistleblowers start coming out of the woodwork once this reign of error is over. My only fear is that the individual stories won't get the attention they deserve because there will be so many of them, and because the media wil be focused on the drama of the incoming new administration.
December 31, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another example of the delusions this admin has been operating under.
They see themselves as heros, as soldiers in the war against, well against something, anything. They are hollow, as is their party, as is their president.
Cowards all.
Completely detached from reality.
December 31, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I found Ashcroft as lucid as I've seen him at meetings in the White House"
Very interesting! Is Gonzo saying Ashcroft is normally sorta blitzed and out of it or is he saying Ashcroft was alert and aware? Seems possible to read his statement both ways.
December 31, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?"
You testified to Congress, in your capacity as Attorney General of the United States of America, that Americans do not have the right of habeas corpus.
December 31, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
As someone has pointed out at Atrios, the "one time corporate lawyer" is a reference to Gonzales working at Enron. And in this economy the demand for Enron's former lawyers must be a bit thin.
If nothing else, Gonzales now reminds me of the "Wilmer Cook" character played by Elisha Cook, Jr. in The Maltese Falcon. Near the end of the movie there is a need to find a "patsy" to take the fall for all the crimes that the others have committed. They settle on giving Wilmer to the cops, and he is none too happy about that. Gonzo the patsy has a nice ring to it, after all these years of subverting the constitutions.
December 31, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
But to hold onto power, they had to empower the neocon and social-conservative (religious) fruitcakes
Hey! Don't forget us, the sons of the working class! We signed on to the Bush/Cheney agenda for a lousy enlisted man's salary and bragging rights. Got a nice car with my re-enlist bonus, too.
And don't forget all my smarter brothers and sisters in the burgeoning domestic security business. A lot of them did pretty well out of it.
"We don't need no religion" as Tommy said. All we neede was a few bucks, and someone we could hate, and we were good.
Obama better have good plans for us. He'd better not leave us out.
December 31, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
One may argue whether his remarks were accurate, but one may not argue whether they were in character.
December 31, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The whole Bush administration should be prosecuted.They should start with the president then vice-president & on down the line.Starting with the war on false reports-treason(devulging the name of an operative)wich is a violation of national security.Stock market collapse.Haliburton swidle of money(tax payers money)Toture of prisoners(violation of Geneva Convention)encarceration under false pretenses of innocent people.Violation of the laws of this land.Wiretapping under false pretenses.Persecutions of innocent people just for not agreing with the admin.Lying to Congress.Lying to the American people about everything that has happened in the last 8 years.This if it is possible since the President has bought property in Paraguay just to move over there as soon as he leaves power so that they can not extradite him from over therew since there is no extradition treaties that country.Also so they can not take the money he has gain since assuming power & register in bogus accounts.He also should be prosecuted with his brother Jeff for steling the 2000 elections in FL.If people would check with FL> voters the would find out that 75% of the FL> people did not vote for him.
December 31, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
President Bush is a real Harvard crook together with all his co-horts(Chenney-Gonzalez & so on).Its time for them to pay for their crimes.Regular people can not get away with all these things commited by the present administration.The republican started the empeachment against President Clinton for less than thi & was on his private life & affairs.Which did not have anything to do with way the country was being run.
December 31, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hole' Mr. Gonzalez & all the the Bush administration should be prosecuted for crimes commited against the nation-foreign countries & hamanity-also for genocide.We talk about democracy & justice for all.Well lets prove it.We talk about justice being blind.Well prove it.We preach that no one is above the law. Well lets prove it.
December 31, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. "FORMER ATTY-GEN" Gonzalez might get on Laura
and Conde's list for public support.
THEY'RE DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB TRYING TO PROP UP
GEORGIE BOY'S LEGACY.
Keep on dancing America, the Piper can wait.
December 31, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You reap what you sow Gonzo, you lied and now people think you are a liar.
Case closed.
December 31, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every indignity you feel you suffer, every lowered opinion of the public toward you, every disappointment you perceive was earned by your performance as the chief law enforcement official of the United States.
At least John Mitchell was intelligent enough to perceive that he committed crimes as Attorney General, Gonzales, you are acting as if you are too dumb and/or ignorant to have been appointed to the job.
You took this oath, "I (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." and then promptly betrayed the Constitution you swore to defend for political gain.
You deserve every disapprobation and expression of disgust you hear from the citizens of the United States and many that escape your hearing.
December 31, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?"
As Attorney General, your loyalty was supposed to be to the Constitution, the United States of America, and to the American people. NOT to one individual.
Or didn't they teach you that at Harvard?
January 1, 2009 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why should corporate law firms be skittish about hiring someone who failed to give competent legal advice to the President on whether the Administration should torture prisoners?
January 1, 2009 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems a given that Gonzo is a weasel of the most despicable sort. However, a cursory reading between the lines seems to suggest (not surprisingly) that the critters at the top of this fetid food chain (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al) have made it clear that reciprocal loyalty, which was once a core value of this administration, is no longer an operative concept.
McClennan seems to have figured this out. Gonzo seems to stupid. The trip wire will be Ms. Harriet. Stay tuned...
January 1, 2009 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gonzo, like Monica, is from the outre.
He was the lucky monkey who made his way into the bush inner circle. That is all. And he served his master faithfully. He was true. He was always the loyal retainer to the BushWASP Masters of the Universe. The Right People. That's why he wonders - why all the animus?
Well, of course, that is the point. No AG other than the family retainer would have acted as AG did. Even "Eagle Soars" Ashcroft refused some of it.
Albertito - he is a victim like Herr Eichmann was a victim. Banal victim. He trusted.
He swore an oath to the Leader.
He kept his oath.
January 1, 2009 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?" he [Gonzalez] asked.
Zom-Bush!!!!!
It seems to me that the "fundamentally wrong" action of Gonzalez and a host of others was their unflinching loyalty to George W. Bush and not the Constitution of the United States. It makes perfect sense Monica Goodling had the same sense of shock and awe when they discovered this is a nation of priniciples before President.
January 1, 2009 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alberto Gonzales is to "casualty of 9/11" as George Tenet is to "faulty intelligence."
I remember prior to the invasion of Iraq, watching Tenet intently to see whether he would be honorable and resign, or join the conspiracy to launch that effing fraud of a foreign policy. In the end he sold his soul, and sold out his agency, his people, and his country. And for that, Bush gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
January 2, 2009 3:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
My question is WHY is Gonzales and Rove(TURD BLOSSOM) still walking and breathing FREE fresh air. The should be in Orange Jump suits with Legg Irons along with the rest of Bush Crime Family and that includes Bush and Chaney. Two reason why they are still FREE, the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA, the WEAK leader ship of the DEMOCRATIC Party, Pelosi and Reid to begin with.
January 3, 2009 3:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alberto got "pimped" by the Bush administration; he straight out became a "hoe" for them. It's totally clear that Alberto showed no restraint at all in the effort George Bush put out to "pimp" him. Alberto was a willing "hoe" all the way. Alberto obviously feels that true respect , from the people , is not important him. Just like his "pimp" George Bush.
I'm a proud Black American and my people picked cotton , for free , for a long time in America. And American Black people earned their freedom because we fought for it; we still fight for it. So I guess Alberto had no pride left and feels that he rather would just become part of the problem then continue the struggle as part of the solution.
What's disturbing to me is that the Bush administration chose to use minorities in strategic positions to do their big dirt. Condellesa Rice , Alberto Gonzales , and the biggest embarrassment , Colon Powell. All three of these people were nothing but "hoes" for the Bush administration. Extraordinary rendition for all of them.
January 15, 2009 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink