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Torture Confirmed by ICRC Report
In the past few years, the evidence suggesting that the Bush administration approved torture to question al Qaeda suspects has been overwhelming to say the least. But there have still been few historical accounts to confirm that torture was used, so every new addition to the record of abuse in the War of Terror is important. The latest and most authoritative addition comes from the International Committee for the Red Cross in an article in the New York Review of Books by Mark Danner, a journalism professor and New Yorker contributor.
Danner obtained a 2007 confidential ICRC report from an unnamed source indicating the use of torture to question al Qaeda suspects at secret CIA prisons, and focusing on three suspects who were treated especially harshly: Abu Zubaydah, Khaled Shaik Mohammed, and Walid Bin Attash.
The ICRC report stresses that in each case, suspects were stripped naked, deprived of food, and forced into painful positions for prolonged periods of time.
Abu Zubaydah, a suspected associate of Osama bin Laden, experienced perhaps the most gruesome questioning. He was refused solid food, water boarded, and subjected to long questioning sessions in his cell. Remembering his questioning, Zubaydah said:
Two black wooden boxes were brought into the room outside my cell. One was tall, slightly higher than me and narrow. Measuring perhaps in area [3 1/2 by 2 1/2 feet by 6 1/2 feet high]. The other was shorter, perhaps only [3 1/2 feet] in height. I was taken out of my cell and one of the interrogators wrapped a towel around my neck, they then used it to swing me around and smash me repeatedly against the hard walls of the room. I was also repeatedly slapped in the face....I was then put into the tall black box for what I think was about one and a half to two hours. The box was totally black on the inside as well as the outside.... They put a cloth or cover over the outside of the box to cut out the light and restrict my air supply. It was difficult to breathe. When I was let out of the box I saw that one of the walls of the room had been covered with plywood sheeting. From now on it was against this wall that I was then smashed with the towel around my neck. I think that the plywood was put there to provide some absorption of the impact of my body. The interrogators realized that smashing me against the hard wall would probably quickly result in physical injury."
Zubaydah was later forced into this box and water boarded, repeatedly led to believe that he would suffocate. During the week he endured this harsh questioning, Zubaydah ate little more than Ensure diet drinks. He said that the torture only stopped because a doctor intervened.
Zubaydah was told that he was the first to be tortured in this way, "so no rules applied. It felt like they were experimenting and trying out techniques to be used later on other people."
Khaled Shaik Mohammed, the key mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, was also subjected to harsh questioning tactics. But he specifies that he was never threatened with death. In fact, interrogators said they would not let him die, but that they would bring him to the "verge of death and back again."
I was kept for one month in the cell in a standing position with my hands cuffed and shackled above my head and my feet cuffed and shackled to a point in the floor. Of course during this month I fell asleep on some occasions while still being held in this position. This resulted in all my weight being applied to the handcuffs around my wrist resulting in open and bleeding wounds. [Scars consistent with this allegation were visible on both wrists as well as on both ankles.] Both my feet became very swollen after one month of almost continual standing. ...The beatings became worse and I had cold water directed at me from a hose-pipe by guards while I was still in my cell. The worst day was when I was beaten for about half an hour by one of the interrogators. My head was banged against the wall so hard that it started to bleed. Cold water was poured over my head. This was then repeated with other interrogators. Finally I was taken for a session of water boarding.
Walid Bin Attash, who was involved in attacking U.S. targets in 1998 and 2000, was also refused solid food and deprived of sleep.
I do not remember for exactly how many days I was kept standing, but I think it was about ten days.... During the standing I was made to wear a diaper. However, on some occasions the diaper was not replaced and so I had to urinate and defecate over myself. I was washed down with cold water everyday.
Danner came to a few key conclusions after reading the ICRC report: most importantly, the Bush administration approved torture in its questioning of al Qaeda suspects as early as 2002. And everyone in the administration, including President Bush, knew it was happening.
Danner says that it is unclear exactly how successful these tactics were in gathering key information about potential terrorists. But one key comment from Khaled Shaik Mohammed indicates that the information is worthless. In the worst moments of torture, Mohammed says he "gave a lot of false information in order to satisfy what I believed the interrogators wished to hear in order to make the ill-treatment stop." This information undoubtedly "wasted a lot of their time and led to several false red-alerts."

















The U.S. had to torture these "high value" detainees (a phrase which reminds me somehow of fast-food "Value Meals"). These guys had scary, bushy beards, and unsettling glares. They didn't speak English and had to be taught a lesson: Nobody messes with macho war presidents! Obama himself isn't immune to the perks of power. I'll bet the Air Force has already taken his measurements for a flight suit of his own.
March 16, 2009 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great use of Irony! Kudos!
March 16, 2009 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
better irony:
Terrorists hate our freedoms.
Bush: "torture is necessary in order to protect our freedoms"
Under torture KSM make up plot whereby al queda smuggles explosives disguised as shampoo gel onto planes
Americans lose the freedom to take water with them through security checkpoint
March 16, 2009 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
You gotta torture the hell out of people to find the location of all those imaginary WMD's.
Enjoy.
March 16, 2009 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nicely done. Good new voice on this page.
March 16, 2009 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile : VP Dick was being interviewed yesterday and no one brought up torture or death squads.
WTF is wrong with a supposed news organization that would let VP Dick use national TV to repeat his completely discredited theories and ask him NOTHING about the crime spree he was on?
Interviewer : Mr Capone, Don't you think prohibition has been a failure ?
Mr Capone : Yes I would, and would add that the tax laws are far too harsh.
March 16, 2009 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
John King is hardly Ed Murrow. He did sort of toss away one jewel by accident with no follow up - he mumbled that Cheney had admitted that the U.S. used waterboarding 3 times in the past. Cheney nodded.
March 17, 2009 12:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
It seems the most relevant questions now are who in the higher ranks of the Bush administration knew, when and what did they know, and accordingly were they authorizing torture or just accessories after the fact?
March 16, 2009 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
An even more relevant question is which Democrats knew about the torture and are now stonewalling to protect their own asses.
Pelosi, Leahy, and Rockefeller immediately come to mind.
March 16, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow, it's a good thing jesus exempted americans from being accused of war crimes, or bush and cheney would be in trouble.
March 16, 2009 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is a scheme that could work :
1.) Tell VP Dick that he has won the Nobel Peace Prize. He will believe it. He will write a speech and make travel plans.
2.) Fly VP Dick to Sweden for the ceremony. When he steps off the plane, arrest him for war crimes. Clap him in irons.
Drinks All Round !
March 16, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Considering some of the past Nobel Peace Prize winners, Cheney may believe he actually is a winner and fall for this approach.
March 16, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds great. I'd gladly buy bourbon for all around for the toast!
March 17, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is there any one in the Obama administration..(or even a GOP with enough moral fortitude) to do any thing about these shameful, criminal acts...?
March 16, 2009 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't hold your breath. Obama has said time and again that he only wants to look forward and to forget the past.
Obama doesn't want to set the precedent of inditing a former US president because he will be a former US president in either 4 or 8 years.
That does not bode well for any inditements to be handed down in the USA.
March 16, 2009 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
George: I think they are on to us.
Dick: Naw, I got a plan.
George: What's that?
Dick: Burn the economy to the ground. They'll be so busy fixing that mess they won't have time to investigate nothing.
Real investigation is still 12 months away. Patience.
March 16, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
We were told that the U.S. doesn't torture, didn't believe it, we knew better. We read Danner, Scott Horton, Glenn Greenwald TPM. and we knew the U.S. was torturing people. We sent angry letters to Washington and even helped vote the Republicans out. The big question now is whether anyone will be held to account. Washingtonians of both parties want to forget about all this unpleasantness; and the Obama administration wants to keep as much power as possible, including the right to invoke the state secrets privilege to keep ugly facts out of public view. Congress has to push for investigations, and prosecutions. Democracy requires vigilance, even though our elected officials ignore what we want. See, no irony here.
Just tragedy.
March 16, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
If elected officials or the government officials appointed by those elected officials do not pursue inditements concerning war crimes, it will be up to the voters to replace those elected officials.
I'm not holding my breath, since the candidates of both parties all seem to toe the "government officials are untouchable" line of reasoning.
March 16, 2009 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're going to need to find such instances where innocent detainees or foot soldier types who were tortured. I don't think too many people will feel too bad for torturing those three listed above.
March 16, 2009 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Think again Walter Mitty. They're still human beings.
March 16, 2009 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
it has nothing to do with whether or not the target of the torture is a sympathetic character.
the KKK are not sympathetic characters, but the ACLU has still stood up for their 1st amendment rights.
March 16, 2009 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're going to need to find such instances where innocent detainees or foot soldier types who were tortured.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0854678
It's hardly the only one. Hell... the UK is batshit currently over an innocent detainee having his genitals worked over with razor blades.
Torture and murder of innocents? The laundry list is endless. We'll forever be a banana republic unless we ship Bush, Chenney, Rummy, Addington, Gonzo and the rest of their kind to the ICC in The Hague.
And like the rest of the folks here, I'm not holding my breath for it to happen. As Greenwald pointed often recently, the Obama Admin is following too many Bush Admin policies to expect them to wake up one day and turn these war criminals over.
John
March 16, 2009 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
did you read the whole article (the one linked in this blog entry)?
March 16, 2009 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The torturers will be living next door to you soon enough.
Enjoy.
March 16, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
If this further mention is of assistance to TPM, I mention the following;
Is it correct that the signing statement is related to Defense and/or Military Spending and would therefore would also include the seemingly and as print media reported 60,000 thousand plus people that continue to this day to be tortured on our US Ships and/other Ships and elswhere and including illegal and/or secret detentions and renditions and including the continued legal and/or illegal secrecy, etcetra and other equally hideous and heinous programs etcetra and including the enactment of the death penalty etcetra and without the seemingly US Constitutional mandated False Claims Act, Habeas Corpus and without the seemingly US Constitutional 'FEDERAL EMPLOYEE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION RESTORATION ENHANCEMENT ACT'?
TPM, please let me know if I should apply modifications or corrections and/or ommissions or retractions to this blog comment reply post and as also as it is not my intent to offend anyone and/or to be unnecessary and/or unduly insensitive or incorrect.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
March 16, 2009 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Torture is un-American and unpatriotic. I believe the above described acts of torture were for sadistic pleasure, not attempts to gain information. The behavior of others does not dictate my reactions. Torture is counter-productive. It produces mis-information, misdirection and can create a terrorist where none existed.
Maybe we need a grass roots campaign to force the government that works for "we the people" to stake a stand on torture and then prosecute where necessary.
This is a bloody stain on our country and contributes to our divisiness.
March 16, 2009 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
How can you describe KSM as a "key mastermind" of 9/11 when his "confession" was given under conditions of prolonged torture? He has never been legitimately convicted of any crime and must be presumed innocent.
March 16, 2009 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink