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Buchanan: Nicaraguan Leader Is "Scrub Stock"
For the last decade or so, Washington has indulged Pat Buchanan as a sort of crazy political uncle. Everyone, it seems, has agreed to forget about his long track record of racially questionable commentary and writing, and to look kindly on his continued nativist leanings, because he's an entertaining and surprisingly insightful TV performer, and it's fun to watch him argue with Rachel Maddow.
But every now and then, the centrality to Buchanan's worldview of racial difference rises to the surface. In addition to his frequent MSNBC appearances, where he plays a mostly well-mannered, if hardline, conservative, Buchanan also writes a column for the far-right web magazine, Human Events. And that's where he gets himself into trouble.
His most recent effort, "The Rooted and The Rootless," takes as its premise the notion that there's a "blood-and-soil, family-and-faith, God-and-country kind of nation" that's competing with a minority represented by the "rootless" Obama and his "aides with advanced degrees from elite colleges who react just like him."
Already, we're in National Socialist territory here, but let's leave that aside (with Buchanan, once you start down this path, it can be hard to stop...). What jumped out at us was Buchanan's contention that the "blood-and-soil" part of America...
does not comprehend how the president could sit in Trinidad and listen to the scrub stock of the hemisphere trash our country -- and say nothing. (our itals)
Scrub stock? We weren't familiar with that phrase. So we looked it up.
There's no record of it appearing in the New York Times since 1943. (Hey, no one ever called Buchanan hip!) Until then, it was almost exclusively used to refer to an inferior breed of farm animal, usually cattle or horses, as when the paper reported in 1907: "Financial Disturbance Forces Cattlemen to Sell "Scrub" Stock to Hold Prime Grades."
In 1934, a federal official writing in the Times about measures being taken in response to the drought of the period, used the phrase in a similar way: "In some cases the drought cattle are being exchanged for scrub stock. The scrub stock is canned and the good stock is used to replace it..."
In other words, "scrub stock" essentially means an inferior breed.
It's worse than that, though. There's evidence that theorists of racial and genetic superiority -- an area of pseudo-scientific "scholarship" that was in vogue even among mainstream intellectuals in the late 19th and early 20th century -- explicitly extended the use of the phrase beyond animals and into humans. In short, the phrase has been used by both eugenicists and racial segregationists to argue for the superiority of the white race.
Consider this passage from an opinion article that appeared in 1913, titled: "Society Is Organizing For A Cleaner And Better Race."
The study of eugenics -- "the science relating to the development and improvement of race" -- is attracting more attention than at any former period. There is nothing new in it, except as we are now seeking to apply to human interests and conditions the principles that have been applied for generations to our flocks and herds -- our horses and cattle and sheep and hogs and dogs. Scrub stock is always scrub stock. Like produces like ... Fresh blood and good blood is needed for the improvement of the human stock.
Or look at this one: In 1997, a reporter for the Roanoke Times went through the archives of that paper, to write about a 1923 incident in which the Washington & Lee University football team refused to play against a Pennsylvania team that had a black player. From the 1997 story:
In response to Northern critics of the episode, W&L President Henry Louis Smith wrote that almost all white Southerners - "whose land is swarming with negroes" - were against "amalgamation" of the races.If it were allowed, he said, "we would become a land of half-breeds like Santo Domingo, Cuba, and Haiti. No farmer with a hundred registered Jerseys on which his living depends could be more determined to avoid amalgamation with hopeless half-wild scrub stock than the Anglo-Saxon communities of the South."
To be sure, there are rare cases when it's used to refer to people without a racial connotation. In 1986, Newsweek reported (via Nexis) on US-Soviet negotiations over how many members of the KGB would leave the Soviet UN staff, after the US had seized a suspected Russian spy:
One White House source said last week that only 14 Soviets had left, and warned that the Kremlin might try to wriggle out of withdrawing the others. "The remaining 11 are the KGB's starting line-up," the source said. "I'm afraid the Soviets will substitute some scrub stock unless we hard-line it."
This usage is echoed in contemporary slang, when we refer to the bench-warmers on a sports team as the "scrubs". And in 1999, the rap group TLC offered a related definition, famously explaining in the song "No Scrubs" that "a scrub is a guy who can't get no love from me/hanging out the passenger side/of his best friend's ride/tryin' to holler at me."
But let's look again at who Buchanan is calling "the scrub stock of the hemisphere" who "trashed our country" at the recent meeting Obama attended in Trinidad. The leader who most prominently did so was Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega, who, aside from being a left-wing former Sandinista, is, like many Latin-Americans, mestizo -- meaning he's part Amerindian and part white.
Buchanan may also have had in mind Hugo Chavez, the leader of Venezuela, who was on relatively good behavior in Trinidad, but who has frequently "trashed America" and whose handshake with Obama in Trinidad was blown up by the right into an example of the president kowtowing to America's antagonists. Chavez, of course, is also mestizo.
That's not incidental. The leftist social and political movements of Latin America -- against which Buchanan has been fulminating since at least the Reagan era -- have traditionally been led by mestizos, and many have been defined in part through their efforts to mobilize non-whites against the often European-descended conservative elite power structure.
With that context, the notion that Buchanan used "scrub stock" to refer simply to ineffective or morally bankrupt leaders, with no racial connotation, becomes, frankly, implausible.
So what does all this amount to? Buchanan referred -- not in a heated moment while speaking, but in print -- to the mixed-race leader of a foreign country with a phrase that's used to denote an animal or person of inferior stock. There's really no getting around that.
We tried to contact Buchanan on this, but we got no immediate response to an email we sent to an address listed on his official website. And a staffer for the American Conservative magazine, which he founded and whose masthead he still appears on, said the magazine was no longer in touch with him.
We also asked MSNBC for comment on Buchanan's use of the term, and the network's own use of Buchanan as a prominent pundit, but a spokesman didn't immediately respond.
Late Update: An MSNBC spokesman has declined to comment.
Additional reporting by Justin Elliott.

















His most recent effort, "The Rooted and The Rootless," takes as its premise the notion that there's a "blood-and-soil, family-and-faith, God-and-country kind of nation" that's competing with a minority represented by the "rootless" Obama and his "aides with advanced degrees from elite colleges who react just like him."
Rootless Obama? As opposed to people who are too stupid to find their way out of their home town even once in their lifetime and fear the people only a few miles away? Talk about "scrub stock." I'm tempted to call it just another name for mouth-breathing wingnut. But that would be wrong, so I won't.
April 24, 2009 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only further confirmation of what's been known for some time now.
April 24, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Buchanan has a history of racially insensitive remarks.
2. "Scrub stock" has an archaic connotation of racial inferiority.
3. The left-right divide in Latin America often mirrors the white-brown/black divide.
Thanks for the research, but there's really not much news here. Pat Buchanan doesn't like Daniel Ortega, on political grounds at the very least, and he doesn't much care how he says it. Your implication of racism would be news if Buchanan pretended to be a tolerant man, but he makes no such pretense and this phrase in this context does nothing to worsen his image.
Pat is a prime right-wing heifer, a red-meat Le Pen, and things would be much less interesting without him around. I like a little dirt on my trash.
April 24, 2009 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, junkmailqueen, you're not wrong. You're spot on. Buchanan's spew? Loutish, and ignorant, yes. But does this really rise to the level of a CEC (career-ending-comment), the ultimate gotcha for media-types? I think MSNBC needs Buchanan as a foil, to keep it from being another show which all us Liberals can gather to watch, and nod sagely at each other. We've got much much larger fish to fry. Just look elsewhere on this site.
April 24, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah... Buchanan is the same cat who said that African Americans should be grateful that they were enslaved and civilized by Christian white males. If that didn't sink him, nothing will.
April 24, 2009 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like we have Richard Simmons in that Zach Wemp photo in the Rushbo montage, and now Buchanan channeling Bono in that photo with the glasses. What the hell is going on?
April 24, 2009 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat is a odd and funny man who wears his beliefs on his sleeve. He hides nothing. We know who he is.
Justin, yours is an interesting piece of research, but you probably could have spent your time doing something more constructive though.
April 24, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to chuckle at people like Buchanan who claim that the "white" race is superior and has superior genes while maintaining that anyone who has the least amount of "black" blood must be considered to be "black". If the "white" blood is so superior, why wouldn't it dominate and be the determinant of race?
It becomes even more curious and confusing since when a new pupil is taken to start school, their race is determined by the race of the parent taking them for enrollment. Therefore, there are "whites" who actually have more "black" blood than some of the "blacks".
It is way past the ridiculous stage.
April 24, 2009 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I would like to ask Mr. Buchanan if he too is scrub stock assuming that his progenitors emigrated to this country with the rest of the starving Irish scrub stock who fled their beleaguered country in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Before the days of PC, large groups of immigrants to America were given derogatory names - Micks, Spics, Degos, Mackeral-slappers - but then amazingly after they'd sqatted on this soil for some amount of time, they became just plain, old, boring Americans. Mr. Buchanan perhaps has finally achieved that status.
April 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like others have said, he uses the term because he's racist. I'd like to emphasize that it's also because he clearly buys into American exceptionalism, though.
April 24, 2009 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
But of course, he didn't mean any harm and whatever he said is in the past now. Liberals don't want to make too much out of this, because it will hurt them in the 2010 elections. This is no time for being partisan. Sometimes you gotta just keep on walking!
April 24, 2009 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was good. Very good
April 24, 2009 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you think this article is off the wall, go back a year or so when the Rev. Wright tapes hit the tube and read his ranting articles and read the comments. Human Events is an evangelical train wreck in a racist car crash and the stupid ferry sprinkled moron dust over the whole site.
It's the worst of the worst of the worst.
Read particularly
A Brief for Whitey (Whitey I assume having to do with the notorious Michelle Obama Whitey tape or due to the fact Obama referenced his white grandmother being afraid of people of the opposite color she encountered on the street, regardless...) with classic lines like this one referring to Obama's speech on race as "the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, 'everybody but the rioters themselves.'"
He's also got great lines like this one "First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known." pointing to how African Americans should be thankful for being brought over as slaves and introduced to Christianity.
He then throws out his statistics he likes to bring up on MSNBC every time there is a racial discussion on to sidetrack the discussion.
Buchanan writes articles on sites like that to keep race hatred fueled up and keep it burning. His followers enjoy it and it keeps him relevant to a right that doesn't care what people think about them.
April 24, 2009 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yes. If "A Brief for Whitey" didn't get Buchanan taken off the air, he'd have to go further than calling someone "scrub stock."
I'm oddly comforted by the fact that Obama's presidency must be causing Pat Buchanan a lot of emotional pain as America elected the man that he called "a cheap race hustler."
I think we should bring it up every time that Buchanan does stuff like this though. That way we can rehash his history and expose him all over again.
April 24, 2009 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe Tavis Smiley, while he was on the Bill Maher Show called Pat Buchanan a "racial arsonist" at least.
It is at the 4:30 mark in this clip
April 24, 2009 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think inbreeding is much worse--just look at Pat and sister Bay.
Also recall that the Spanish royal family suffered from inbreeding, to their own detriment.
April 24, 2009 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Pat wearing Fendi-style (possibly D&G) eyeglass frames in the frontpage pic? Dawg looks bangin'
April 24, 2009 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is another legit reason for why I always find myself not liking & irritated by Buchanan. Politically he's great for the Dems, just like Hannity, Limbaugh, Oreilly & all. But, having to listen to his shrill voice & watch him pretend to be objective is barely worth it.
April 24, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
the "Quest for fire" gang is going to over throw the scientists, the teachers and the philosophers and club them..is that what you mean Pat...? Like when the Shi'a insurgents (the more radical Muslims sect) "got down" on the educated Sunnis?..like that Pat..? Your bitterness at losing has warped your mind, Pat...
April 24, 2009 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Keep in mind racism is just pseud-scientific mysticism. It's always been those with the least accomplishments to show empirically who turn to genes or their religion as "proof" of their inherent superiority. It's no surprise that the most uneducated and unaccomplished population also overlaps considerably with the most fundamentalist and most racist.
An ironic case are the Neo-Cons, many of whom are Jews with strong sentiments regarding the holocaust and Zionism. Many are exceedingly paranoid, and feeling constantly put upon, have developed a hyper aggressive worldview of do unto others before they do unto you. Rationalizing that, neo-cons are some of the most virulently racist people about the inherent inferiority of all their enemies. Which then justifies just about anything.
April 24, 2009 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure if we have to go back so many years to find clearly racist uses of this term that Buchanan meant it specifically to be racist. I'm not in any way defending him or his views or his use of the term. I'm just saying he may have been using it as an insult without the racist connotation specifically and I only say that because as the post notes you have to go pretty far back to find it used in that way. Unless you're Buchanan it's really difficult to know for sure if he had that use in mind, but it certainly wouldn't be surprising if he did. I have heard that term all my life, but never heard it used in a human context, racial or otherwise. I've only heard it used as it pertains to animals.
April 24, 2009 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Trouble is that the phrase is very rare, apparently, and used in relation to human beings, its meaning seems to be overwhelmingly racist. I mean, how many things can you mean by calling someone "scrub stock"?
April 25, 2009 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Plus, if I might chime in again, the literal meaning of the phrase is "an inferior breed."
April 25, 2009 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't disagree. I'm just saying because of the rarity it's possible that it could be a mere insult (as it is clearly intended) but not a racial insult. That's all I'm saying and have no interest in defending either him or his motives.
April 25, 2009 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
If we are on the trash pick up watch Hardball tonight where Buchanan openly condones torture.
April 24, 2009 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan: the poster boy for why you should never give your child a Jesuit education.
April 24, 2009 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
When I was growing up (1980s Vermont), "scrub" was slang among schoolkids for redneck (not really used much among adults, though). And since there really were no African-Americans, Latinos or other non-White/Caucasian kids to speak of at that time, it was basically a white-on-white term of abuse, more of a class/culture thing than anything else (maybe akin to the use of "Bama" among African-Americans).
That said, I absolutely agree that Buchanan's comment is totally wrong. No doubt Buchanan and his allies have a counter-narrative of their own at this point, insisting that Pat's meaning was in no way racist, but I don't really care. Buchanan's words are clearly motivated either by racism, classism, nativism/xenophobia or some combination of the three. And none of those things are okay.
April 24, 2009 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scrubs sounds familiar to this teacher. Mexican-American students use the term "scrubs" to indicate something not quite right about another student. We have taken issue with this term, classified as name calling.
It's a personal attack at the least and a racial slur at worse. Only Pat knows for sure. In either case it is NOT a term that is out of use. Doctors wear scrubs, which are kinda shapeless clothing for surgery. Who would want to be called any kind of scrub? Pat B. knows better. He thinks no one else will notice.
Heloise
April 24, 2009 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey at least he didn't use the term mud person.
I wonder how the 19th century Californios felt about the scruffy immigrants from the east?
April 24, 2009 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irony of ironies----For several years, I have been straining to find just the right phrase or word to describe the position Mr. Buchanan holds in the world of credible pundits. I am genuinely surprised and delighted to learn that Buchanan himself has provided the most accurate possible term: scrub stock.
April 24, 2009 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant. He's an old fashioned crypto Nazi. Thanks.
April 24, 2009 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Buchanan, no Irishmen need apply.
April 24, 2009 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't complain to MSNBC, start a boycott of any product advertised on any GE affiliate, including CNBC and NBC.
I think an explanation of Buchanan's contract and status within MSNBC and the New York Stock Exchange is due, at least.
Tavis Smiley calls Pat "a racial arsonist." I call him "an educated and intelligently sinister David Duke."
I think we'd all like to see him just go away.
April 24, 2009 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is what we like to call, a racial arsonist. He lights the fire and walks away like it wasn't his fault but laughs as the racial flames burn. It's obvious he is a racial arsonist the campaign totally brought it out of him.
April 24, 2009 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yet another example of a values conservative who has none.
April 24, 2009 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let us not be too hard on Pat. He is old enough to remember when he and his kind were considered the scrub stock of the west. He is just having a flash back to a time when white folks didn't want the red kinky hair and freckles and thick ankles of the Irish peasantry sullying their WASP perfection. Also those nasty ideas they brought over in steerage like all men being equal and their awful usage of the English language would dilute the excellence of Anglo/Saxons. Pat still feels the dirt between his toes and the boiled potato-like texture of his skin. A little sympathy for the internalized social outcast, please.
April 24, 2009 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan is also under attack by Jeffrey Goldberg and The Weekly Standard for anti-semitism for calling the Israeli fight with the Palenistians a "blitzkreig" and for defending Demjanjuk.
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/04/15/the-case-against-demjanjuk-and
It appears the campaign against him is gaining steam.
April 24, 2009 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has been attacked on those grounds before, yet the Villagers have never shunned him.
April 24, 2009 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm actually willing to cut him a bit of slack on this one, primarily because the most contemporary use of the term, the only one that I'd bet anyone these days is at all familiar with, is the scrubs on the bench in sports lingo. Now, that's not to say Buchanan doesn't harbor racist sentiments, but I don't know if it's fair to interpret his use of this term as relating to 19th century eugenics. Also, the TLC song "No Scrubs" was a huge hit - penetrating the zeitgeist pretty far and wide I think - that year when it was hot, and it carries none of the connotations you're describing.
April 24, 2009 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bigots have used this "rootless" crap for centuries, as any history of anti-Semitism will tell you.
Next thing you know, we'll be measuring skulls again.
April 24, 2009 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that title of the Buchanan piece, "The Rooted and the Rootless," immediately brought to mind the irony-laden name Tony Karon gave to his excellent website: Rootless Cosmopolitan.
Which, as he explains, was Nazi-speak for Jew.
April 25, 2009 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate, hate, hate the political correctness that handles people's racist thoughts and feeling by telling them to shut up.
Eric Holder called us a nation of cowards because we aren't willing to talk about race, but articles like this calling for people's jobs are exactly the reason why there's so little discussion.
In the days of Martin Luther King and Jim Crow and all that, it seems unlikely to me that they had any capability to make racists shut up and say only nice things. Yet they made enormous progress. And what about the 10-20 years after that? Seems to me we stagnated quite a lot.
Only, ironically, in the Bush era, when the racists could come out of the closet were we then able to face them down again with the election of Obama.
Making racists shut up doesn't make racism go away, it just means they're more careful who they say such things to. -- They only say it to people who won't disagree with them or who will even reinforce the belief. It means the wrongheaded toxic things they think don't get answered because those of us who disagree with them never hear them. It means that statements against racism get relegated in the public mind to the kind of platitudes everyone says because it's socially required not because they believe in it.
It changes the social appearance of things -- like driving the homeless out of public parks. Doesn't really change what's going on in the streets.
Besides, this is America and that should mean -- that so long as people follow laws designed to protect everyone -- that they should have the freedom to be themselves -- not what society would have them be. Maybe that makes for an uglier society, but at least it would be an honest one. I personally, would rather know who the racists are and argue with them about it then have them hiding among us with their hatred, quietly and secretly spreading their beliefs and constantly trying to find a way to undo everything this country has accomplished.
You can't legislate morality and you can't legislate people liking each other or liking particular groups of people and while campaigns to get people fired aren't law, they can have the same effect. And coming from people constantly complaining about people being fired or not hired simply for being who they are, it's a bit more than hypocritical.
You can't campaign against the right of people to descriminate in the workplace against people who are gay or of a different race and then turn around and demand the right to descriminate in the workplace against those who hold ideas you find offensive. It's hypocritical and it's immoral.
April 25, 2009 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan has a history of racially insensitive remarks
That's not quite right. Don Imus has a history of racially insensitive remarks. Pat Buchanan is an open, unabashed racist. He's also a very, very smart man -- which leads to cognitive dissonance, because we've all agreed to pretend that racism has been heroically defeated, and only brain-dead yokels still espouse the doctrines that were discredited by Adolph Hitler. It ain't so; but because we so fervently wish it were, Buchanan -- who is far removed from the moron down at gas station who thinks the nigras are eying his white women -- gets to go on CNN and be treated like regular folk. The fact that he's clever and subtle masks his malignancy.
April 25, 2009 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
That he would use the Nazi term "blood and soil," and use it *approvingly*, is what really staggered me.
But of course it's really the liberals who are fascists. Yeah.
April 25, 2009 2:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let me get this straight. President Obama and the mainstream of the Democratic Party is still bombing Afghanistan. President Obama and the mainstream of the Democratic Party lent not only verbal, but monetary and military support to Israel while is comitted mass murder against civilians in Gaza. Pat Buchanan, as far as I can tell, is in favor of none of this. And yet, he, for using similar terminology as racists once used, is labelled a racist. The worse racism is imposing a level of violence upon swarthy foreigners that we as a nation would simily not tolerate being imposed upon ourselves. I think most people on the business end of U.S. foreign policy would take Pat Buchanan's racism over that of the sensible centrists any day of the week.
April 25, 2009 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let me get this straight. Standing up against Islamic medievalists in Afghanistan and Gaza is racist; but letting them get what they want is upright and moral...... ok then.
As for most people on the business end of US foreign policy - you don't speak for them and Patty ass O'Buchanan doesn't give a rats ass about them - they're scrub stock, remember.
Nice to see the Gaza blood libel floating around here. If you really care about the plight of humanity as much as it appears I recommend you write a letter to the Damascus Hamas leadership about their human shield practices....
April 25, 2009 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Boom shaka laka. That didn't take long, did it? Again, the choice. Were I a man on the street in Afghanistan or Gaza, would I rather be called scrub stock by Pat Buchanan or called an Islamic medievalist and then vaporized by the sensible American center. Scrub stock please!
Incidentally, my friend, invoking the "He's doing it too!" doctrine excuses neither schoolyard misbehavior nor barbarism.
April 25, 2009 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're absolutely right, but… you're doing it, too. (* rim shot *)
I.e., you're "defending" Buchanan by saying "Obama's doing it, too".
April 27, 2009 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Last night on MSNBC this demented buffoon actually admitted to Jonathan Turley that torture may be illegal, but added that there's a higher moral authority, and this is my favorite, "That's what Dr. King was about."
Stunning. We've watched it several times and it never stops being stunningly, hilariously (in a black comedy kind of way) insane. So next week, will he have Jesus Christ justifying torture? Can't wait.
You can't make this stuff up.
April 25, 2009 7:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I watched that too. Poor Turley. By the end of the segment his head was spinning. I love when he had to yell at Pat "For the love of god, let me finish!" To sit in between a sputtering anti-intellectual nincompoop Matthews and hyper-patriotic fascist Buchanan must be a real treat. NOT. I doubt we'll ever see Turley appear there again. Better he stick to Countdown.
April 25, 2009 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like the Chris Mathews show except for that racist republican scumbag Pat Buchanan. I know we need a dissenting opinion to make the arguments have more merit, but, Buchanan is totally gross and out of touch with modern society. His "scrub stock" remark just highlights the fact that he's too "old school" for 2009.
April 25, 2009 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey!Values are now on sale........they have no value!Wow, that means you can have all or none or any combo! What a deal!!
Now we don't have to worry about that at all.
Was looking at this page and wondering......if there are any offspring from the limpblah and pathacannon link.
Fortunately that thought train stopped almost fast enough.
But, since almost no one is staying glued: has anyone figured out there is no news in the media at all?
Media is the distraction, not the informer.
Ok gang.... your turn.
You have to check it out.
Almost all the media extravaganzas are meaningless, inconclusive and only somewhat factual if they have an on scene vid.
Pay attention.
Sorry,don't waste your time but check it out for a few minutes.
Aha, you see? It's over here not over there.For sure it's not what they put in front of you.
Remember, they have been doing this over 50 years.
They be good at it guys and girls.
Don't be distracted. At least don't stay distracted.
April 25, 2009 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan has been an overt racist his entire life clocking his beliefs in protectionism, though ineffectively. At this point, he is little more than an offensive bore. MSNBC, NBC should cut him loose. It is unfortunate, but he appears to be one of those public figures that does not know when it time to retire gracefully. The majority of the country moved beyond his brand of racism and dogmatic faith long ago.
April 25, 2009 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe I missed something but as I looked at Buchanan's article he was putting himself in the shoes of a part of America, and he's saying Obama is out of touch with those folks.
He speaks approvingly of how the character of the country has changed since the 60s. You can agree or disagree as to how much of "Middle America" fits his description, but the pathetic or fearful rhetoric in the post and comments here is appalling.
Is Buchanan really too smart for TPM readers, or is it just too easy for many to engage in mental masturbation by distorting the truth he offers?
April 25, 2009 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do we have to twist ourselves into knots to "accept the truth he offers" when its clad in antiquarian racist rhetoric?
And why so quick to throw us under the bus?
April 25, 2009 6:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because he is referring to antiquated Americans and how they think. Duh?
Quick to throw whom under the bus? Why are y'all so quick to pile on Buchanan in such mindless fashion?
April 25, 2009 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pat B., like our founding fathers and practically everyone up until the 1960s, understands how our society is being dumbed down to materialism and low-life pragmatism by the mixing with lower races and demonizing of the white male.
Go Affirmative Action to replace white people.... Are minorities really this dumb that we need to place them in positions above white people?
Do you honestly believe that any other race could have produced Western Civilization thought and culture other than the white race? Why is it that we worry about the breed of the dog, stereotype it, etc., but doing the same with humans they're so "outraged."
Typical liberal writer! "I'm so outraged... blah, blah, blah."
Pat B. understands the world situation all to well, but the outcome is for God to decide.
April 25, 2009 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Appears we got ourselves a real live White Supremacist here! Wow, maybe a first for TPM!
Welcome! Now do us a favor and say some more silly racist things so we can laugh at what an ignorant clown you are.
April 25, 2009 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks in advance.
April 25, 2009 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awww, what a cute, typical liberal feminist response. It proves that through our educational system you haven't been taught to learn and think but rather you have simply been relegated to a reflex mechanism for our liberal/AIPAC dominated educational system/agenda.
Don't you have some feminist/Neo-Liberal hate rally to attend?
I'm sure your... like... fav' commentator Rachel Maddow is on pretty soon.
April 26, 2009 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
CNN BULLETIN!
PAT BUCHANAN ANNEXES THE SUDETANLAND AND INVADES POLAND!!!
I never knew this guy was as hateful and dangerous until he started appearing regularly on TV.
April 26, 2009 7:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
The most overtly loaded phrase there is actually "rootless," used in contrast to real, rooted, 'blood-and-soil,' etc.
"Rootless cosmopolitan" is code for "Jewish" in e.g. Heidegger and Stalin.
(Funny how all those Jewish Holocaust victims in Florida gave W the White House by voting for PB, eh?)
Charges of racism are very serious. I have no idea whether Buchanan really is one. He might just have a kind of tribal ur-position from which racism springs.
April 26, 2009 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
All your comments remind me of a story I heard a long time ago, but it was rather a folktale.
Once upon a time there were two peoples who rediscovered each other: The KLUBINGS and the KLINGWUCKS.
The KLUBINGS went to the KLINGWUCKS in order to initiate treaty relations. After nine hours of discussions that ranged from politics, culture, religion, culinary arts, customs, habits, to philosophy, sociology, psychology, anthropology etc..., the KLUBINGS assumed the same haughty attitude that had predetermined their decision to "normalize" relations with the KLINGWUCKS.
The KINGWUCKS had timber and precious metals.
Noticing that negotiations were moving so very slowly, one of the advisors to the KLINGWUCKS who was so frustrated and could no longer contain himself, said to the Chief of the KLUBINGS "Get off your horse, Mister!" But the Chief of the KLINGWUCKS intervened and whispered, "No. Let him. They look so good together." And the Chief of the KLINGWUCKS said, "Please continue, Great Chief of the KLUBINGS. You will pardon the interruption." And the Chief of the KLUBINGS spoke for another three hours and a half.
Then the Chief of the KLINGWUCKS continued, "We understand 'where you're coming from,' Great Chief of the KLUBINGS, and we have gifts to welcome you and to cement our new relationship." And the Chief of the KLUBINGS, apparently surprised by the overture, replied, "Thank you, Great Chief of the KLINGWUCKS, we appreciate your kindness."
Then the Chief of the KLINGWUCKS clapped his hands twice. In came, with all the great pompous solemnity of royal entourage, two KLINGWUCKS "subjects" who, very meticulously uncovered the two packages they brought to the Chief of the KLUBINGS for all to see: a toilet and a coffin.
The eyes of the Chief of the KLINGWUCKS met the eyes of the Chief of the KLUBINGS, and for one minute and a half, there was total silence all over both "realm-doms."
And then, mustering as much energy as he could to put in his voice, the Chief of the KLUBINGS muttered, "Let's talk again great Chief of the KLINGWUCKS; we are sure that, with mutual respect, we can come to a common agreement that addresses both your real concerns as well as our own interests."
April 26, 2009 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
PB is hard to reach. He once made me mad when he yelled at a black woman commentor on Scarborough's old show. I cannot think of her name, but he told her to "shut up!"" Lord have mercy, had that been me, I'd have popped him one right there on national television! LOL
I do not take kindly to harming the elderly, but with PB and a few other Reublicans, I'd make an exeption!
I went to his official website and the only contact info was with his staff. I sent the email venting how I felt about the foresaid moment. Never heard a word from anybody.
April 26, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it possible in this case that Buchanan referred to Ortega-Chavez-Castro as scrub stock among leaders in the Western Hemisphere gathered at the Summit of the Americas, and not among races in the Western Hemisphere? In other words, they are poor leaders of ill-governments.
I could see Buchanan using the term just to get people buzzing (as you have here) about possible double-meanings. And he'd enjoy knowing he'd succeeded.
One irony in your analysis, though, is that Buchanan is indisputably an anti-eugenicist w/r to the clearly eugenic ideological history of the pro-abortion American Eugenics Society whose membership was laundered by the moniker Planned Parenthood Federation after Hitler actually tried out eugenic theories against inferior races such as those Margaret Sanger decried. The serial euphemisms have overpopulated the world from BS-for-profit PP ever since.
April 27, 2009 1:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yet another example of the Liberal Media drowning out the voices of the right. Pat being restricted to Crossfire, The Capital Gang, Buchanan & Company, CNN, Hardboiled, Mercan Conservative, Natty Review, The Nation, Rolling Stone, Morning Joe, McLaughlin Group, authoring a few books and newspaper columns.... just goes to show the death-like grip the Libs have on political discourse.
BTW, when did Pat start rockin those Bono-type specs?
April 27, 2009 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan continues to prove that since he left the Nixon criminal cabal his mental growth has completely stopped.
He is one of those limp-try middle-of-the-road-folks that likes to try and show that he can have opinions on both sides of issues - NOT. Peal the facade off Pat and he becomes Glenn Beck...
He and BayBay should take a few lessons from scrub stock they may actually learn something...instead of just lighting another cross in their front yard....
April 27, 2009 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please don't blame Buchanan's bigotry on being Irish. His paternal ancestors were Scottish Protestants and slave holders in the South before the Civil War. The Catholicism in the family came from his mother who was of German catholic ancestry. The Irish have had enough trouble with their own bigots, including Joe McCarthy. I think the best comment on Buchanan's remarks were about a rant he gave to the GOP National Convention in San Diego. The late Molly Ivins put them in proper perspective by noting in her column that they sounded better in the original German.
April 28, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is the guy who helped facilitate the Republican's grip on the south. Back in the 60's Buchanan and Nixon went through the south decrying the civil rights legislation that LBJ had put forth.
Buchanan perfected making civil rights a wedge issue. He and Nixon planned it out perfectly, enraging southerners, bringing Dixiecrats to the Republican party and, as a result, helped to foster this period of anger and division that is plaguing our country right now.
Buchanan isn't racist due to his roots, he may not be racist at all. But, he's perfected how to incite conservatives into a frenzy when he feels the urge to do so.
April 29, 2009 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink