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Harman: "If There Are Tapes Out There, Bring It On!"
Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA) just appeared on MSNBC to give a guns blazing denial of the allegations in CQ's explosive report from yesterday.
The congresswoman, speaking to Andrea Mitchell, reiterated her claim that she didn't intervene with anyone -- not the Justice Department, or the White House -- in the AIPAC case. And she renewed her call for DOJ to disclose all the material associated with the investigation into her that, according to CQ's report, Alberto Gonzales helped stymie.
"If there are tapes out there, bring it on!" she said, calling the government wiretapping that reportedly picked up her conversation, "a gross abuse of power."
Harman said she had no need to make a quid pro quo with AIPAC. "I have a long friendship with AIPAC. I didn't need to cut some deal with AIPAC."
She said it was publicly known that she wanted the House Intel committee job, and added: "I believed that I had been promised that [job] in writing," by Nancy Pelosi.
We'll have the full video for you shortly.
Late Update: Here's the video...

















Too bad she wasn't interviewed by a real reporter like David Shuster.
April 21, 2009 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. She's trashing Pelosi.
April 21, 2009 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harmon is right: It is a gross abuse of power for the NSA to catch her promising to interfere into the investigation of espionage. How dare the National Security Agency do that!
Her defense is quite damning: "Harman said she had no need to make a quid pro quo with AIPAC. "I have a long friendship with AIPAC. I didn't need to cut some deal with AIPAC."
A Soul Already Sold is Not For Sale.
April 21, 2009 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's pretty obvious by now that there is no love lost between Harman and Pelosi.
Her statements on not needing to cut a deal with AIPAC, etc., somehow don't seem germane to the issue, which is whether she cut a deal with someone else (not AIPAC) to, essentially, withdraw donations from other House members unless they gave Harman the chair she wanted, in exchange for Harman "waddling" in to try to help AIPAC.
Is she saying she would have waddled into a DOJ matter involving AIPAC employoees even without any quid pro quo? That hardly seems to make her less culpable.
I think she's trying to mix it up a bit here, because she's not making a whole lot of sense.
April 21, 2009 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, you'll notice she gave a very non-denial denial about what she said to AIPAC and what might be on the wiretaps. She said, paraphrased, she can't remember what she might have said to old friends at AIPAC.
The fallback is she may have misspoke and given the impression of a quid pro quo, but that none actually took place.
April 21, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
We'll see.
April 21, 2009 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This wasn't much of an interview. More like an opportunity to spin her side of the tale.
April 21, 2009 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
The New York Times's role in all this is fascinating. After Harmon,et. al. (Bush officials) asked the Times man in DC to not publish the illegal spying on US citizens report, it did not publish it for a whole year. Despicable.
April 21, 2009 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Henry Waxman used to be my Congressman. Then I moved. Now it's Jane Harman. Oh the shame!
April 21, 2009 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, sweet irony! Poor, poor Jane has been wiretapped, and now she's doing this for all us little people...oh, right, she was all *for* wiretapping us little people, until it happened to her, and now she's outraged!
Also, I notice she makes it sound like it was illegal, but it was FISA court-approved. She was obviously consorting with some individuals whom the FBI deemed dirty, so, as they say, lie with dogs, wake up with fleas.
April 21, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dave, I'm in her district. She ain't doing it for me!
April 21, 2009 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
Her feigned outrage is enough to make me want to puke in my soup.
April 21, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, irony can be pretty ironic!
April 21, 2009 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harman is right about one thing. If she was wiretapped talking to Aipac lobbyists, a lot of other Dems are now placed "on notice". I believe this is threat to Dems from Bushie NSA and CIAers who did the wiretapping: You go after us for torture and we will hurt you like Harman.
April 21, 2009 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Result: We'll clean a lot of trash out of government. Let the cleaning begin.
April 21, 2009 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Congressmen who talk to lobbyists are trash?
April 21, 2009 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, if those lobbyists ask the Member of Congress to "look into" (read interfere) with an espionage case.
April 21, 2009 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
As the chimpy said, bring it on. I am all for going after tortures and crooked Congress-critters (on both sides of the aisle) getting shit-hammered.
Let's clean house (capital H and lower case). That's not a threat in my eyes, but a tease that we might get some progress and action on draining the swamp.
April 21, 2009 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I agree in principle. But, we've also got major legislation coming through, and party unity is really important right now. So I'm torn.
On one hand I want to see government cleaned up, across the board.
OTOH, I care far more about legislation in the pipe than I do about the sentences of a couple AIPAC spooks. I don't want to see Democrats shoot themselves in the foot or unilaterally disarm if the net result is AIPAC (or whoever) just goes to Republicans to do the SOS albeit more discreetly.
April 21, 2009 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds about right. There's too much bipartisan dirty laundry this threatens to expose. I bet the whole thing goes in the memory hole by next week.
Reminds me of the deal Trent Lott and Tom Daschle cut during the 90s -- Republicans indict Clinton only for Lewinsky (not for his dealings with the Riadys) and in exchange DOJ lays off investigating the Koch brothers' financing of the '94 GOP Congressional campaign.
And the beat goes on...
April 21, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just about to post something similar, though it's not certain torture has anything to do with it.
Seems very likely some former Bushies knowledgeable of the NSA taps leaked this. Actually, one has to kind of admire the play and want to see it through. I just hope they miscalculated.
Primary effect, a major scandal which is just bad optics. How many other Dems, particularly Blue Dogs, cut deals with AIPAC? If Obama goes after this he better collect scalps becasue he'll make a lot of enemies.
Secondary, expect a drawn out scandal. It's unlikely the NSA releases their wiretaps, as Harman would well know. The theatrics helps her a little, but not enough to clear herself.
Tertiary, with major legislation coming on healthcare, energy, etc, and with the Democrats most likely to oppose reform also having strong AIPAC ties, the Bluedogs, this is a very well targeted wedge.
April 21, 2009 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. That was a whole load of vaporware she was hawking there. Nowhere in that did she hit on anything approaching an actual denial of substance of what is alleged. I love how she tries to make a point that because this wiretapping might have occurred after after 2005 is somehow relevant.
Add to that the crocodile tears about how it is horrific that she, an innocent American, got wiretapped and how that is an abuse of power. Well no shit you dumb twit. And it is an abuse of power when the NSA wiretaps me, or any pother American, yet that is what you went to bat to allow the Bush administration to do.
Of course the big difference between Harman and me (or anyone else here) is that I am not caught on a wiretap trying to interfere with a espionage investigation when the NSA is sifting through my conversation. Suck to be you Jane.
Her feigned outrage is self-inflicted petard hoisting writ large. Maybe she can begin to appreciate the reason why many of us on the left were screaming bloody murder at what Harman, Bush and our "leaders" were doing in the name of "national security". What a dumb-ass. She is like the Leona Helmsley of the House Intel Committee, being tapped by the NSA is only for the little people in her view it seems.
April 21, 2009 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
drational:
I thought so too at first but don't you think there would be a lot more people coming out to support Harman if this was a threat from the Bushies? Besides, from all the reporting so far, it appears that Harman was, in fact, BFFs with all the Bushies. The only support Harman appears to be getting is from some factions in the media who have AIPAC ties.
I do agree with you that Harman is hurt, badly. Her protestations about being wiretapped are like campaign commercials waiting to be made.
April 21, 2009 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Harman was bad, but not "all in" with the Bushies. Remember she wrote an anti-waterboarding letter in 2003. But she is a sideshow Dem now, no power. No one needs to come to her rescue.
I ask who hit her and why hit her now, when she is down? and it comes down to CIA (Goss is featured in the CQ article) and NSA.
We have torture investigations coming up, and some key dems will play a role. If they are on notice that someone may have tapes of them saying they would do things for Aipac, they may not want those leaked in anonymously sourced articles....
Conspiracy theory only.....
April 21, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correction: Harman is getting some support from her colleagues. Feinstein and Durbin have issued statements in support of her.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003099278
April 21, 2009 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
i love watching harman, who SO disrespects my fourth amendment rights, get hoist by her own petard.
"a gross abuse of power"? HAHA, talk about irony.
in fact, i'm goign to call her up and make fun of her right now.
April 21, 2009 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brendan:
Here ya go!
Congressman Jane Harman
2321 Rosecrans Ave # 3270, El Segundo - (310) 643-3636
April 21, 2009 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Quotes from the tape were very specific to be made up. The phrases "waddle" into the issue and "this conversation never happened" seem like details few people would make up. Who would even think to say "waddle"?
Harman knows the DOJ can't officially release information, so she feels pretty confident about calling for the tape to be released, knowing they can't release anything before trial. But that won't stop someone from leaking a copy. That would be awesome.
April 21, 2009 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The irony of Harman claiming the bully pulpit for the little people now that she has been caught out in a wiretap that she herself was at the time arguing for.
She also was asked by NSA chief Haden to have the NYT wiretap expose pulled thru their Washington Bureau Chief.
The NYT are being a little difficult in recalling whether her request to pull the story was in October or November 2004, as it would have ad an impact on the presidential race.
The piece ran in 2005.
Harman, if she had any integrity or shame would resign.
She has been found out as an AIPAC stooge and a Bushie surrogate intent on getting the committee chairmanship and prepared to sell her soul for such.
April 21, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you have answered your own question: she has no integrity. She is merely another tool of a particular bunch of lobbyists who are committed first and foremost to the purposes and goals of a country other than the United States.
April 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
She and Rockafeller were the worse two intelligence committee chairpersons ever! Thank God Pelosi didn't give her the job again.
April 21, 2009 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
excuse me Congresswoman, they had a warrant. you were surveilled with a jusge looking over their shoulder, something you opted not to grant us
and we'll "bring it on !" when you release that piece of paper wherein Madame Speaker committed to giving you the committee chair, you know, quid pro quo
April 21, 2009 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Bring it on?"
Obsolete Bushie Bravado.
April 21, 2009 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or shades of a certain blowhard ex-governor of Illinois. Sounds like his rhetoric taken whole cloth...
April 21, 2009 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Careful what you wish for. . . .
She's on another planet. The wiretap took place while she was talking to AIPAC officials. And, it appears, according to the reporter at CQ, the NSA had a warrant to wiretap AIPAC officials (likely because Stephen Rosen was being hit with charges of espionage). They weren't targeting Harman (though you have to admit that it crossed your mind that the Bushies got the AIPAC calendar and thought, "hmm. Jane Harman is coming in tomorrow, let's see what they're going to discuss.").
April 21, 2009 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a fairly liberal Democrat, I have only one thing to say...this is why they are the Charlie Brown party. The Democrats are basically a collection of groups of people who all hate each other, even though they hate Republicans more...they can never and will never get their house in order.
April 21, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What? And you can't say that about Republicans? Wall Street, Southern Evangelicals, and Libertarians all love each other? Since when?
Try not to crap yourself in public.
April 21, 2009 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a tendency to agree with tmdf - but my reason is that Dems underestimate the republicans. They may be out of power but corporatioins still control the media and corporations are run by rich white republican men. The dems have a harder time getting their message out and are not as vociferous as republicans.
April 21, 2009 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's also that people like you spend a lot of time forming circular firing squads.
April 21, 2009 9:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lousgirl, both you and TMDF are incorrect. 1) Who says the Republicans have their house in order? Even when they were in power, Tom DeLay, Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Denny Hastert and others screwed up big time ... or were finally caught being the crooks they always were. 2) We "underestimate the Republicans" who are out of power? How? Did the Republicans want to get this story out? Really?
April 21, 2009 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right. I really wonder if these people are GOP trolls or just chronic whiners. Last I checked the GOP is a mess and Dems are doing pretty good. This is about as far as the political pendulum ever swings.
April 21, 2009 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The self proclaimed "best Republican in the Democratic Party" may have just been found out to be one the most arrogant in Democratic Party as well.
It's time the CA 36th took her to task and threw her out on her Joe Lieberman lying butt.
The CA 36th is no place for a Blue Dog, let alone a rabid one.
April 21, 2009 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given that Harman was such a vocal proponent for giving away the Constitutional rights of everyone else who wasn't the "ranking member of the House intelligence committee", it's pretty hard to take her "outrage" seriously.
Her hypocrisy on this issue is absolutely breathtaking. "It's okay when it's done to you plebes, but I'm a Congresswoman!" If ever there has been a more clear demonstration of the fact that these government clowns view themselves as above the law, I can't think of it.
April 21, 2009 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
She can resign if these transcripts are true. If not she must be replaced in the next election.
April 22, 2009 7:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
She said "If there are tapes out there, bring it on!"
So in other words, she was assured that the tapes would be kept secret?
Oh, please, please let them have lied to her.
April 22, 2009 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a deep, dark suspicion that Harman is just another unpaid agent of a foreign government who has infiltrated our government. This possibility doesn't surprise me, it merely makes me more and more suspect of our foreign policy.
April 22, 2009 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'll note that she leads people to believe that her conversation involved someone from Aipac without actually coming right out & saying it.
Could this be merely a diversion to protect the identity of the real agent she colluded with who might be Israeli?
April 22, 2009 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink