Industry interests have been creating front groups to cloud issues since the days when big tobacco began battling against evidence of deadly health effects. This is exactly what we should expect from corporate PR campaigns and their "non-profit" front groups.

The only thing that has changed is that the mainstream media treats the spin as if it represent a valid counterpoint and helps fuel confusion in the public to support the MSM advertising base.

If the Fourth Estate did their jobs and reported the truth the way TPM and others do, we'd have a functioning Democracy and the corporate welfare, revolving door sell outs would be sweeping streets instead of vacuuming up taxpayer cash.

The recent flooding along the Red River in the Dakota / Minnesota region is interesting.

It is due to a large scale phenomenom called isostatic rebound, where the Earth's crust is actually rising out of the depression left by the miles thick ice from the last ice age.

Hudson Bay was formed in the major depression left behind by the melting of the Laurentian Ice Sheet that covered a lot of North America. Centered over the Hudson Bay area, it was the last area to melt. Rivers run south to north into Hudson Bay, including the Red River.

Without the weight of miles of ice on top of it, the land in that region is slowly rising. And now we are at a point where Hudson Bay is getting more and more shallow, and the rivers that had been running south to north don't really know which direction to flow - north, south, east or west. Hence a lot of flooding in this part of the world.

These flood events in this part of the world are perfectly predicted by the Ice Age scientific understanding of the world. In fact these flood events show why it is important to understand the long term and lasting impacts of the Ice Ages on the geography, ecosystems and history of the world.

Does the Ice Age science model predict flooding in the Dakotas? Yes. Can it predict how long this region will continue to flood - Yes. For many hundreds of years as the isostatic rebound effect continues.

How does this enter into the Global Warming debate?

Because the global warming model, based upon the assumption of increasing greenhouse gases increases the earth's temperature, does not have the precision of prediction to state that the Dakotas will be a flood community for many, many generations.

The scientific Ice Age model does just that. Its predictive power and usefulness as a scientific model is many times that of the Global Warming / Greenhouse Gas model.

One points out specific details that can be tested through the scientific process, the other just generalities that have a harder time testing through scientific hypotheses. In a nut shell, an Ice Age understanding of the world will give you many more scientific hypotheses to test for than the Global Warming model ever will.

One is based on millenium of information that can match up with past astonomical and climate data,while the other tells us nothing of the past and little if anything about the future besides "We think it is going to get warmer in the future."

People who claim an allegiance to science and environmentalism should really read up on the Ice Ages and understand the global impacts of a process that is still ongoing today and has much larger implications for us as a species and a planet the all the current rage of Global Warmingism.

What about us!