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Trio Of Senators Ask Obama Not To Prosecute Bush Attorneys
Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Joe Lieberman have sent a letter to President Obama urging him not to prosecute Bush Justice Department officials who wrote legal rationales for torture. "[T]he Department of Justice is currently conducting an internal ethics review of the OLC memos," the trio write, "but that is a quite a different matter from making legal advice with which we may disagree into a crime."
This has been a common refrain from these three for some time, but this letter belies the facts that the use of torture predated the memos that were written to retroactively justify it, and that the Attorney General has independent authority to investigate and, possibly, prosecute their authors. I've pasted the full text of the letter below the fold.
We write with concern about proposals to prosecute previous administration officials for their legal analysis related to the CIA interrogation program. Pursuing such prosecutions would, we believe, have serious negative effects on the candor with which officials in any administration provide their best advice, and would take our country in a backward-looking direction at a time when our detainee-related challenges demand that we look forward. "We agree with your position that CIA interrogators, carrying out operations that had been deemed lawful by the Attorney General, should not be the subject of prosecution. Indeed, we addressed such a possibility in the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act, which holds that "good faith reliance on advice of counsel should be an important factor, among others," when considering whether CIA interrogators had good reason to believe that their activities were legal. "We disagree, however, with Administration statements suggesting that the lawyers who provided such counsel may now be open to prosecution. Some of the legal analysis included in the OLC memos released last week was, we believe, deeply flawed. We have also strongly opposed the overly coercive interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, that these memos deemed legal. We do not believe, however, that legal analysis should be criminalized, as proposals to prosecute government lawyers suggest. Moving in such a direction would have a deeply chilling effect on the ability of lawyers in any administration to provide their client - the U.S. Government - with their best legal advice. Providing poor legal advice is always undesirable, and the Department of Justice is currently conducting an internal ethics review of the OLC memos, but that is a quite a different matter from making legal advice with which we may disagree into a crime. "Given the great challenges that face our country in dealing with detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay, Bagram Airfield, and elsewhere, along with detainees that will undoubtedly fall into U.S. custody as the result of future operations, we have every interest in looking forward to solutions, not backward to recriminations. That is why we do not support the idea of a commission that would focus on the mistakes of the past. "As you have made clear, we are a nation at war. Appreciating that reality, we look forward to working with you on the panoply of detainee issues, ranging from interrogation standards to the disposition of detainee cases, which will engage our country going forward. In the interest of national security, it is the future, rather than the past, on which we believe America's gaze must be fixed.

















Why is it the people at the top are always bailed out, but the little people get punished? They are the ones who cause the problem. No wonder this country is going to hell in a basket!
April 22, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolute sad, dispicable, disgusting Hipocracy!!
Our US Congressional Leadership and including Senator Kennedy have clearly and unmistakeably FAILED!!!!! our 'We the People'!!!!! US Constitution, Bill of Rights!!!!! MANDATE and WRONGLY maintained a 'No Impeachment' and apparently to include the seemingly deliberate and intentional failure to comply to the past decade of SUBPOENAS from our 'We the People' US Constitution, Bill of Rights!!!!!
Where is the Presidential Candidate Obama Promise and Campaign of hope for the 'Change We Can Believe In' and his WRITTEN promise for the 'FEDERAL EMPLOYEE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION RESTORATION ENHANCEMENT ACT'?
Where is the Leadership for the 'Change We Can Believe In' and not the seemingly continued 'Pack of Lies' and/or deceptions and with the same seemingly Cheerleaders and within the continued intolerable Corrupt Policies, Practices and Procedures of the previous Administration(s),
as applicable?!!!!
Where is the Presidential Candidate Obama Promise and Campaign of hope for the 'Change We Can Believe In' and his WRITTEN promise for the 'FEDERAL EMPLOYEE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION RESTORATION ENHANCEMENT ACT'?!!!!
April 22, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do you get from this post to your whack hypocrisy rant?
Oh, and BTW, any time you want to stop your voluminous tinfoil spam-posing-as-posts, feel free. Wading past your ZANINESS in every thread can get tedious, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks so.
April 22, 2009 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The value of any post is inversely related to the fraction of capital letters it contains.
April 22, 2009 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention as the inverse cube of the number of EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 24, 2009 1:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Where is the Spam you refer too?
What ZANINESS?
Is your summation that 'We the People' may only speak once on these same issues of clear and unmistakeable Corruption?
I certainly agree with your frustration, although
1) you clearly have the ability to more considerately post a direct reply comment to me. No solutions and/or endeavors thereof. (Just Witticism?). I am posting as having a vested Interest as a recognized DOJ Whistleblower matter that was Testified with my name and case(s) file(s) by the National Whistleblower Center, Mr. Kohn, Government Accountability Project, Mr. Devine before the US Senate Committee on Ethics and Good Government (now part of Homeland Security) Senator Lieberman Chair presiding in direct reference to the 'FEREDAL EMPLOYEE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION Restoration Enhancement Act' S1358 2003//HR985 2008.
2) You offer no critic except to blatenly admonish and/or attempt to discredit me.
I appreciate your comment and concerns and for the expressed opportunity to not further or substantially curtail to post on this TPM Muckracker Website.
(I have a secheduled appointment in a few minutes, must go for now.)
Thank you for your time and consideration.
April 22, 2009 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where are and where is the US Congressional John Conyer Judicary Committee 8/2008 Hearings and Subpoenas within the ongoing? 'Executive Powers and Its Limitations' IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS!! that where testimony was entered as the most important Hearings within the recent Century!!!!
April 22, 2009 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't need to discredit you. Your blatherings speak for themselves. Unfortunately, I learned a long time ago that responding to crazies like yourself only breeds more, and more voluminous, reponses.
I don't doubt your heart is in the "right" place. I think I probably share your views broadly, although the arc of your extremely prolific commenting history suggests that a view in favor of good governance has turned increasingly towards a No Quarter Obama bashing. There are plenty of that variety of commenters here already who at least come across as rational.
April 22, 2009 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am saddened to note that your summation is that my blatherings should be discredited as they appear, although crude and not as eloquently proficiently expressed as I would hopefully prefer, are seemingly in all relevant
fact, correct.
Also, you may recall that I have suggested a Working Group (preferably through the/a FEDCIR Adjudication and inclusive as and/or if and/or where applicable within their 'Judicial Review//Judicial Conference'.
Please note that I have continuously mentioned for many years within this new blog comment reply medium that those on our US Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches of our US Government are also in direct and relevant fact US Government Federal Employees and would obviously be 'best served' along with our 'We the People' US Constitution Bill of Rights and mandates thereof and within the proper and forthright regards and respect of and towards our US Declaration of Independence towards Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness for All, and with the implementation of the recent decade of overwhelminly Legislative Approval and Presidential Veto proof approval of the US Constitution Bill of Rights mandate and compliant 'Federal Employee Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Restoration Act which is inclusive and Identical to the WPA (S1385 in 2003 and HR985 in 2008).
My apologies for my and again lenghty reply.
My high appreciation and gratitude for your proper and forthright insightful concerns within your additional blog comment reply.
Hopefully we agree that 'our hearts' are continuing to have the Faith for the Hope for the Faith for and to the Hope for the 'Change We Can Believe In' and not, where applicable, the continued hoodwinking deception and/or of seemingly past failed and/or corrupt Policies, Practices and Procedures and/or interpretations and/or implementations thereof.
Also, I continue to be appreciative and thankful for the expressions, frustrations, exasperations and the abundance of seemingly the highest and highly creditable knowledge, concerns and history from the many, many and continuing formidable blog comment replies that tend to 'Identify the Problem(s)' 'and Offer Solution(s)' 'and Endeavors for Resolution(s)' and TPM Muckracker that this highly regarded and esteemed and recognized formidable format.
Thank you TPM Muckracker and for the years of exceptional superb and excellent, due dilligent blog comment replies to your great many superb and excellent with due dillegence TPM Articles.
Thank you and all for your time and consideration.
April 22, 2009 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Additionally, although most importantly without regret, Please note that I inadvertantly posted the Federal WPA paragraph twice.
My apologies for the inadvertant duplicate paragraph posting.
I try to be concise and without the exclusion seemingly pertinent relevant applicable material.
April 22, 2009 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have attached the following after your and mans_best_friend blog comment replies should it be of any concern and/or value to whatever your and mans_mans_best_friend concerns and/or values are and/or may be.
Where are and where is the US Congressional John Conyer Judicary Committee 8/2008 Hearings and Subpoenas within the ongoing? 'Executive Powers and Its Limitations' IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS!! that where testimony was entered as the most important Hearings within the recent Century!!!!
April 22, 2009 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Free advice for Obama: read this, consider it, and then do the opposite. These three stooges are the last people on Earth who should offer sage advice on any topic.
April 22, 2009 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am sorry but FUCK McCain, Graham, and most of all Joe Lieberman!
Joe Lieberman IS THE LAST PERSON that should be defending a government official that provides the rationale to torture.
April 22, 2009 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be sorry for saying what can't possibly be said enough, O¿O. FUCK McCain, Graham and, most of all, Joe Lieberman!
April 22, 2009 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
International treaties and US law are very clear on this point:
The US is legally obligated to investigate and prosecute these allegations as evidence warrents. The POTUS has no voice in the deliberations, the attorney general must proceed as the evidence dictates.
April 22, 2009 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The real reason that hardcore Bushies don't want the OLC memo authors prosecuted is not out of principle -- "Government attorneys should be free to give legal advice without fear blah blah blah."
No, the real reason that hardcore Bushies -- the ones in the know -- don't want Yoo, Bybee, and Bradbury prosecuted is because they are afraid of what the attorneys' defense will be. Faced with prison, the attorneys might say "I wrote those memos because the President ordered me to. I came to that legal conclusion because Dick Cheney walked into my office and told me to make that conclusion happen."
April 22, 2009 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would love have a time machine, travel back to the Bush era and be a fly on the wall to see how in the hell Cheney was able to intimidate and manipulate so many of these douchenozzles. Was it his good looks? His way with words?
Seriously. Help me out here.
April 22, 2009 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
When you control the president its amazing what you can do.
April 22, 2009 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
If these Senator's goal is to protect the Bush Six (Gonzales, Yoo, Haynes, Feith, Bybee, Addington) from prosecution, then they may want to reconsider their position.
The Senators ought to give more thought to the foreign implications. When Spanish prosecutors recommended against a criminal indictment of the Bush Six last week, their reasoning was that the criminal investigation ought to take place in the United States rather than in Spain. A decision from the White House that there will be no criminal investigation severely undercuts the argument against the Spanish indictment. (Remember, the decision on the Spanish indictment will be made by Judge Baltasar Garzon, not by the Spanish prosecutors.) Consequently, by deferring to DOJ, the Obama Administration helps protect the Bush Six from indictment in Spain and possibly other foreign jurisdictions. The best outcome for the Bush Six is to have the White House "defer" to DOJ and then have DOJ conclude that the attorneys can't be successfully prosecuted because they only offered legal advice.
I'd almost rather that the White House followed the Senator's advise and declared that there would be no prosecution. I'm worried that the DOJ investigation will just conclude that the Bush Six can't be prosecuted for giving legal advice and that foreign jurisdictions will then defer to DOJ.
April 22, 2009 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are playing to the party line but I doubt Mccain believes this for a minute...he was tortured and capitulated...
As 'party leaders' they need to get infront of the media and ahead of the pressors! What a funny thing to know that they are so down and out!
I am conflicted about this but feel IT needs to be in the hands of the AG and DOJ! Something needs to be done but a special prosecutor is not the way...Congressional Committees are a waste- -Leaders in Congress knew more about this than they are admitting--It will lead to more division --if mishandled!
Patience....
April 22, 2009 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The same can be said about the Democrats.
The Obama Administration seems to be waiting for a groundswell of public opinion to let them know which way to move concerning the torture issues.
It would be much better if the Obama Administration took the lead and led, rather than following the crowd. They were elected to lead, not follow.
April 23, 2009 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with these asshole's complaint is that the legal advice IS the crime. If OLC had interpreted the law with even a modicum of integrity, they would know that insects-filled-coffins and waterboarding and programs designed to drive people insane are clearly, blatantly illegal.
Without the abuse of the law by the lawyers, the whole criminal enterprise loses it's claim to lawful existence. It's not about agreeing with the lawyer's interpretations of the law, it's about whether lawyers can use 'interpretation' to outright nullify the rule of law.
Fucktards. Defending the lawyers and doctors who enabled this stuff is the lowest of the low.
April 22, 2009 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman, Graham and McCain, oh my! What an unholy trio of privilege, hypocrisy and bad sportsmanship (you lost - that happens sometimes.)
April 22, 2009 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is premature to call for PROSECUTIONS but it is disgusting to oppose INVESTIGATIONS. As several have pointed out, we do not know who was doing, saying and writing what. Full speed ahead. Put them all under oath. Ask embarrassing questions. Shuffle the cards. Review the hand that comes out. THEN prosecute where appropriate.
An aside on the idea that legal advisers must be free to give advice. What crap.
April 23, 2009 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the phrase ought to be 'Bush Seven', with Lindsay Graham indicted in the mix, as he has used his unique position on the Armed Services and Judiciary Committees to provide support for the implementation of torture
April 23, 2009 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink