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Defense Lawyer On Newburgh Informant: "A Real Snake"
The lawyer for a man convicted of a terror-related crime that was engineered by the same government informant at the center of the Newburgh Four case describes the informant an unscrupulous liar who, in both cases, preyed on the ignorance and lack of sophistication of his targets.
In an interview with TPMmuckraker, defense lawyer Terence Kindlon called Shahed Hussain a "treacherous, clever, completely ingenious dissembler," and "a real snake."
Kindlon represented an Albany imam, Yassin Aref, who was convicted in 2006 for his involvement in a money-laundering scheme connected to a fictitious terror plot. As the New York Post reported last week, Hussain convinced a friend of Aref's, Albany pizzeria owner Mohammed Hossain, to launder the cash, while Aref acted as a witness. Hussain -- who was working with the Feds in order to avoid deportation to Pakistan, after being convicted in 2002 of helping immigrants to cheat on their drivers' tests -- falsely told the men that the cash had come from the sale of shoulder-fired missile to be used to kill a Pakistani envoy.
Kindlon said Hussain -- using the alias "Malik" -- ingratiated himself with Hossain over a lengthy period of time, in part by buying gifts for Hossain's six children.
The Hossain/Aref case has been criticized as an example of over-zealous law enforcement eager to bring terror cases in the wake of 9/11. An Albany Times-Union columnist described the sting in one 2007 column as a "witch hunt."
As for the Newburgh case, Kindlon called it "the graduate version of our case," arguing that Hussain -- who this time around went by the alias "Maqsood" -- took advantage of the Newburghers' poverty and desperation, and that the FBI had engineered the entire plot from the start.
"It could have been any kind of conspiracy you wanted," said Kindlon. "I think what happened is that the FBI -- during the Bush administration -- basically designed a conspiracy, dreamed up a scary story, shooting down airplanes... and they found four idiots to become the defendants. It was like they dressed them up in halloween costumes."
He called the Newburgh case "an idiotic charade," adding "it's like professional wrestling: everyone knows its fake, but it's fun to watch."
Kindlon said he has been contacted by the mother of David Wiliams, one of the Newburgh Four, but that he's unable to take on any of the accused plotters' defenses.
Of course, it's worth remembering that Hossain and Aref were convicted in connection with the money-laundering scheme. And as the authorities have pointed out, the fact that defendants are unintelligent or unsophisticated doesn't necessarily mean they're not dangerous.
Still, in retrospect, the Hossain/Aref case doesn't appear to have been the terror case of the century, despite the FBI's breathless pronouncements. And that would seem to be the case with the Newburgh Four, too.

















"And as the authorities have pointed out, the fact that defendants are unintelligent or unsophisticated doesn't necessarily mean they're not dangerous."
I'm appalled that this excuse is floated. Manipulating "unintelligent or unsophisticated" people into committing fake crimes is NOT what the FBI should be doing. The provocateur is the danger. If the FBI can entrap a provocateur who is truly dangerous I would be less concerned. Dangerous talk is not dangerous action in the world.
May 25, 2009 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am really appalled that the FBI is "supporting" this Informant Hussain who should have been deported. why would they trust this guy?
It is bad that these 4 unsophisticated guys tried to plant bombs - but it seems pretty obvious that they would not have devised this plot on their own - and would not have gained access to the bombs.
It seems the FBI should NOT be working to use questionable informants to Incite a violent attack for PR purposes.
I still don't get why the FBI signed off on this garbage investigation - a little too zealous? Or why AG Holder approved the PR blitz of this embarrassing arrest.
May 25, 2009 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was this FBI case in Alaska years ago --decades actually. I don't remember all the specifics, but essentially the FBI got this tip about some sort of criminal conspiracy going on in Alaska. They send up a couple if agents who set up a sting operation to catch these supposed conspirators.
Unfortunately, the entire thing was a hoax cooked up by some guy trying to get off the hook for some federal crime.
The upshot of the entire thing, there was no criminal conspiracy involving drugs or whatever the heck it was supposed to be. That is, until the FBI showed up and essentially created the crime.
In other words, the FBI actually created a new criminal culture in this Alaskan town that did not exist before they showed up.
Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen!
May 25, 2009 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
This sound like the Obama street squad signing up new ( dead ) voters.
"The point is the bad guy are off the street", this is the montra of law inforcement, some time they lie, just like the Speakerette of the House of Reps.
We are so lucky to have a president that never lies.....Yo!
May 26, 2009 12:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody think this might be a repugly conservative idiot? Now why would you think that?
May 26, 2009 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
waterboarder,
have you noticed the FBI never uses these terror sting operations on PhDs, its always used on undereducated, unsophisticated people....you know, like you.
May 26, 2009 5:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alfred Korzybski enjoyed modest popularity in the 1940s and 50s for something called "General Semantics." Scifi writer A.E. Van Vogt thought he was the cat's meow. Korzybski's key observation was that the map is not the territory, i.e.
A word is not what it represents.
"Terrorist," an old word remaking the rounds, is a great example of this. It automatically has a pre-packaged narrative about a desparate person who abandons standard values and beliefs. Law enforcement officials, in turn, pretty much apply the term as they see fit. For them it is even more potent as an adjective combined with a noun, such as "terrorist threats," "terrorist conspiracy," or "terrorist act." Popular culture, of course, takes this egregious over-use an applies it to everyday language: "telephone terrorist" for somebody who calls incessantly, or "terrorist breast-feeder" for mothers who suckle children in inappropriate public contexts.
May 26, 2009 1:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm wondering about how the judge who hears this case will see it. Will he see four terrorists standing before him or will he see four dupes?
How will he see the FBI's tactics? How will he see the informant and his reputation?
May 26, 2009 5:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 26, 2009 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gosh, a defense attorney doesn't like the informant. Who would have thought?
Sure, this case looks pretty lame.
And sure, these methods would likely not work against real professional terrorists. (Although even some of the 9/11 guys seemed like real mouth-breathers.)
But fishing around here for some sort of scandal or class-based injustice is just stupid. TPM has been acting like these guys are in jail fo being potheads or something.
May 26, 2009 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! Stop croaking right there, answerfrog,
There has never been one bit of proof that 19 foreign guys committed the acts of 9/11 other than the accusations made by that sleazy Chaney-gang bunch. If you are really an American and are really concerned about this Country (that I happen to love above all others), start looking at the facts and anomalies of that "day of infamy".
May 26, 2009 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink