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UPDATED: Source: "EIT" Term Wasn't In Use When Pelosi Was Briefed
Here's yet another reason (as if more were needed) to doubt that that CIA briefings document perfectly reflects what lawmakers were told about torture back in the early days of the war on terror.
Almost every briefing described in the document -- including the September 2002 Pelosi briefing that's directly at issue -- refers to "EITs," or enhanced interrogation techniques, as a subject that was discussed. But according to a former intelligence professional who has participated in such briefings, that term wasn't used until at least 2006* (see correction below).
That's not just an issue of semantics. The former intel professional said that by using the term in the recently compiled document, the CIA was being "disingenuous," trying to make it appear that the use of such techniques was part of a "formal and mechanical program." In fact, said the former intel pro, it wasn't until 2006* (see correction below) that -- amid growing concerns about the program among some in the Bush administration -- the EIT program was formalized, and the "enhanced interrogation techniques" were properly defined and given a name.
The former intel professional, no partisan defender of Democrats, faulted Nancy Pelosi for not pressing harder in the briefing to determine exactly which techniques had and hadn't been used. "The extent to which members ask questions should drive what's going on," said the former intel pro. "It's your job to ask."
Still, the impression created by the CIA, and by Republicans looking to use the document to damage Pelosi, is that as early as 2002 there was a universally agreed upon definition of enhanced interrogation techniques (the document, remember, doesn't say that waterboarding was mentioned during the Pelosi briefing). In reality, it appears, the term, and the techniques it encompassed, occupied a far murkier realm.
*Correction: A Nexis search which we should have done earlier shows that the term "enhanced interrogation techniques" was used by CIA from June 2004 onwards. That month, the Associated Press reported:
The CIA has suspended use of some White House-approved aggressive interrogation tactics employed to extract information from reluctant al-Qaida prisoners, The Washington Post said.Citing unnamed intelligence officials, the newspaper reported in Sunday's editions that what the CIA calls "enhanced interrogation techniques" were put on hold pending a review by Justice Department and other lawyers.
So the use of the term does indeed appear to have coincided with the emergence of widespread concern about the use of such techniques, and it doesn't seem to have been in use when Pelosi was briefed in September 2002. But clearly the term was in use two years earlier than we originally said.

















So the CIA documents re congressional briefings in 2002-03 were written in 2006 and back-dated? Or am I reading too much into this?
May 19, 2009 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, way too into it.
May 19, 2009 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't tell me this is another case of trying to rewrite history!
This story is moving so fast that if people simply take a nap, they may wake up to find a Special Prosecutor is already in hot pursuit!
May 19, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a great thing to wake up to after a nap, a special prosecutor. (Well, not for those being investigated:)
I might try this nap strategy this afternoon.
May 19, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a new theory. Untested so far. But if enough of us take enough naps, it might just work! ;)
May 19, 2009 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zzzzzz...
May 19, 2009 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in.
Now, if I take a nap and wake up to the same mess, but you take a nap, and a special prosecutor has been assigned and indictments are handed down, then is this proof enough of the theory of a multiverse?, That there is not just one universe, in which we all share the same reality, but many concurrent universes with multiple realities?
And if so, can I transfer to the universe in which all these people are in prison? And how do I get my EZ-pass validated?
May 19, 2009 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
wow, i just had a beautiful dream, something about darth vader in an orange jumpsuit...
May 19, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
It might work. I just took a nap, woke up and found this post.
Time to go back for another short nap.
May 19, 2009 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
A "Nap-In" !!! What a great idea!!!
As a '60s occasional not-quite-radical, this is an "in" I could join with tempered enthusiasm and nostalgia. Not from a lack of fire, you understand, but because too much excitement may undermine the effort and lead only to a "Toss and Turn In".
I blinked. Is there a Special Prosecutor yet or should I get started?
May 19, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL! It's still worth a try, though....
May 19, 2009 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do we need the CIA anyway. Just put congress in charge of there duties. HS Peloie with Rep. Waters and Franks could do just fine in charge of American Security.
May 19, 2009 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
oops, the "i'm an apologist for war criminals and i'll ignore all new developments and blogs are a waste of time" thread is further down. understandable error.
May 19, 2009 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't you (and the former intel pro) missing the point here? If the supposed reliability of the CIA briefing docs is based upon the claim that they were "contemporaneously" recorded -- and therefore more accurate than Pelosi's memory, many years later -- then doesn't the fact that the docs use a term that was not in common use until many years later suggest that these docs were recently created?
At a minimum, this renders the documents much less trustworthy. And it suggests that they were possibly fabricated long after the events they supposedly record in order to attack Pelosi's version.
May 19, 2009 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
jzap - you're reading too much into it. the point is narrower: that the document, by mentioning EITs, makes it seem like everyone knew and understood what techniques that term encompassed. whereas in reality, the program wasn't even formal enough at the time for EITs to have been fully defined. so the info pelosi was given may have been much less clear and specific than many are suggesting.
May 19, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
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Please allow me to mention and/or re-mention a few and hopefully coinciding concerns.
1) I presume we are all hoping for a proper and forthright, effort and endeavor towards 'Transparency' and with proper and forthright 'Oversight and Accountability'.
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In closing, please note that as I contiue to try to offer support for an endeavor towards 'Transparency' Oversight and Accountability" that I attache the following in reference to a recent US Comgressional 'Federal Employee Whistleblower Enhancement Restoration Act;
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Briefly, Great Congressional Testimony (Thank you Chairman Towns and Committee Members) and a Great, Exemplary, Superb and Excellent supportive endeavor towards Federal Employee(s) Protection(s), Taxpayers and all and a hopefully forthcoming 'Federal Employee Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Restoration Act'.
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The Federal WPA HR1507 has seemingly little or no chance of succeeding with a hostile Executive and Legislative Branches of our US Government such as President Obama and Holder and Senator Susan Collins and many others in the so-called US Senate Committee on Government Ethics and Good Government and that has been in effect for the past 10+ years.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
May 19, 2009 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Zack. There's a lot here to try to keep straight.
May 19, 2009 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who would have believed that the President of the United States would lie about something so consequential as the necessity of a unilateral invasion of another country? Few in the media were prepared to press him for specifics.
Who would have believed that the Central Intelligence Agency would engage in a policy of torturing people (especially over an attempt to justify the President's big lie, not over a perceived threat of an imminent attack on the U.S.)? We are the United State of America for heaven's sake. We don't torture people.
So here is a case of trust betrayed. The CIA wasn't about to tell Pelosi the whole truth? She didn't know enough to ask the specific questions we think she should have asked.
The real villain here is ideology. The last administration gave us a taste of ideology unhinged. The CIA deception was part of that tragic story.
May 20, 2009 8:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a great way of making your statement. Amazing how the Cheney Bush junta manipulated government to serve their shallow statements about why they invaded Iraq. I will not be satisfied until a Truth Commission gets to the bottom of the Bush horrors and both Bush and Cheney and who knows who else are marched in front of the Hague for crimes against humanity. Let's do it and do it quickly.
May 20, 2009 12:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonder if Fox is going to retract their claims on Pelosi now. (sarcasm)
Great find! keep digging.
May 19, 2009 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Bush/Cheney Torture Enablers (as usual) want it both ways: They want to hold the CIA responsible for its many errors surrounding flawed intelligence (which it clearly sought) surrounding Iraq's WMDs. And they want to hold it harmless and perfectly honest in its memory of the Congressional briefings. (Though Panetta doesn't.) And since the CIA is (theoretically) expert in the business of disinformation, with a history (Helms, Casey, et alia) of lying to Congress, why the debate?
May 19, 2009 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Speaker Pelosi wasn't even told prisoners were being waterboarded and tortured, but as the minority leader back then she should have magically know what was going on. She should have stopped this illegal and ineffective program by demanding the Republican House and Senate and President Bush quit torturing but instead she encouraged it. I'm Britt Hume and that's how we roll."
May 19, 2009 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
This sounds like it hits the nail on the head - the actual CIA briefing notes are still classified and the CIA has refused to release them. The "document" in question is a declassified summation of those notes made at a later (when we don't exactly know) date.
Pelosi is telling the truth - the CIA did not say at the 2002 briefing that waterboarding was being employed. What she is afraid of--as her performance last week suggests and this source confirms--is that she didn't follow up at the briefing and probe more deeply about what exactly was being done. This was 2002, the days of piss-your-pants fear of terrorism, with Republicans lording their alpha-male "response" to 9/11 over Dems and well on their way to wiping the floor with them in the next two elections. Minority members like Pelosi weren't about to make waves and ask questions, at least as long as the CIA wasn't standing up there and admitting they were waterboarding the bejeezus out of people (and I believe Pelosi, Rickefeller and Graham--they didn't admit to it in those briefings).
If this is correct, Pelosi is telling the truth and the actual notes back her up. And once the truth is out, Newt and Boehner's completely over-the-top statements will finally show them for the fat braying jackasses that they are.
May 19, 2009 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
your use of finally is incorrect. newt and boner have both been shown to be "fat braying jackasses on many an occasion.
May 19, 2009 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
So when was the document compiled? Last week? I don't see a date on it.
And what sources were they using to complile it? What we need to see is the original briefing notes or slide presentations used, not a summary made years later.
Talk about smoke and mirrors!
May 19, 2009 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
We also need testimony - under oath - from the briefer(s), as well as full documentation of everything surrounding the alleged briefing.
All of it handled by a special prosecutor.
Lying to Congress is, I believe, a crime, and not a crime that Panetta can protect a CIA member from being tried and convicted of. Nor should he.
May 19, 2009 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The way this story is worded implies the CIA back-dated the term "EIT" onto briefing documents before the term was widely in use in 2006.
May 19, 2009 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, my God!! A group of spies is not coming up with the truth. Espionage agents are deceiving us. Who would have believed it?
May 19, 2009 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bush can't even remember when Paul Bremer told him that he, Bremer, had unilaterally decided to disband the entire Iraqi Army, which happened the day after Bremer arrived in Baghdad in 2003.
So Pelosi is supposed to remember verbatim what plausible deniability BS the CIA told her 6 years ago, and without notes being allowed to be taken?
Senator Graham (former D-Fl) said the CIA did not allow anyone to take notes of any 'briefing'.
He said CIA just this month listed meeting dates they had with him, but his careful kept schedule from 2003 showed the 3 meetings out of four never happened (he was interviewed on NPR a couple days ago).
If I were in Congress I would demand CIA briefings, if they are deemed of any use whatsoever, be written and video recorded.
May 19, 2009 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did anybody actually explain to the oversight groups what the euphemism Enhanced Interrogation meant, in graphic terms?
May 19, 2009 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course not. That is precisely the point.
May 19, 2009 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you get that the term was not in use back then?
May 19, 2009 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The former intel professional, no partisan defender of Democrats, faulted Nancy Pelosi for not pressing harder in the briefing to determine exactly which techniques had and hadn't been used. "The extent to which members ask questions should drive what's going on," said the former intel pro. "It's your job to ask."
Granting that - how do you know what questions to ask?
Everyone at the hearings would have known that the US had signed the Geneva Convention against torture, that torture was illegal under US laws, and that the military strictly prohibited torture under its SOP. So, why would there be a need to ask the question. "Are we torturing our prisoners?" When they already knew the answer, and had no notion that Bush was rewriting our laws and ignoring our treaty.
May 19, 2009 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the criminals can string this out long enough, they can use the Reagan defense ("I don't recall")
May 19, 2009 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The msm will totally ignore this story which is the real storty because the republicans dictate all of the msm moves
May 19, 2009 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good observation. That's why the MSM is going out of business. Their stenography during the Iraq War and their cowardly behavior on this subject contributes to their obsolescence.
May 19, 2009 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a question for the CIA - did you explain to the Congressional leadership the exact methods of torture, on how many suspects and how many times? Did you explain in detail that one suspect was waterboarded 83 times, and that the U.S. military executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers just once during WWII?
May 19, 2009 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Using the Google shows use of "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques" in November 2005:
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866
Not that this alters anything about your post other than it was apparently used slightly earlier than your source discusses.
May 19, 2009 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
April 2009 - Representative Pete Hoekstra (R - MI) requested information from the CIA about the briefings of members Congress
May 7, 2009 - CIA released "the document" which is a table showing meeting dates, locations, briefers and attendants. Uses the term "EIT" as shorthand for who-knows-what. The document I assume was written between April and May of this year.
The document lists briefers as "Not Available" several times on page 3, and once on page 5:
9-4-2004: first date in document
3-7-05 through 11-8-05: briefers NA
9-19-06: briefer NA
3-12-09: last date in document
What the heck was happening in Bush's world in 2005 politically and what was happening within the CIA?
May 19, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
wiki says that in 2005, torture and the CIA were big news.
January 2005 - U.S. Army Reservist Lynndie England faced a general court-martial
September 26, 2005 – U.S. Army Reservist Lynndie England is convicted by a military jury on 6 of 7 counts, in connection with the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal.
On October 28, 2005, as a result of the CIA leak grand jury investigation, Special Counsel Fitzgerald indicted Libby on five counts
May 19, 2009 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This gave me a deja vu...then I remembered that Dan Rather-GW Bush story with the use of a typeface that supposedly wasn't in existence in the 60s...
May 19, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The CIA lies -- who could have guessed?
May 19, 2009 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Bush and Cheney et al covered their tracks and wanted to make sure some major democrats would be implicated for added protection... big suprise.
May 19, 2009 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well well Nancy played the Republicans for fools. Just as I said she was doing last week
No wonder Panetta wouldn’t vouch for them
I detect the fine hand of Rahm Emmanuel at work. This is classic Obama Rope-the-Dopes..rattle their cages, sit back and watch them destroy themselves
Not that hard a play as we’ve seen countless times
BTW Anyone see our resident Useful Idiot Lalo?
May 19, 2009 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Eric will tell you that's why we don't allow hearsay documents as evidence in a court of law
May 19, 2009 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The balance of power between the legislative and executive branches needs to be restored... now. The CIA is fully able to withhold accurate information from Congressional oversight committees -- to bamboozle them. Members of Congress who have been briefed are nonetheless sworn to secrecy and, by extension, self-defense. The whole oversight structure needs repair, the balance returned, and (btw)"worst case scenarios" outlawed in policy discussions and decisions.
May 19, 2009 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which is worse: lying to Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, or being totally incompetent in the process of doing so?
This is the CIA?
May 19, 2009 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think the available evidence supports your source (although the CIA Briefing document is full of crap). On 28 Jan 2003, George Tenet signed off on a document that included this:
You can see this document at http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/cia_3684_001.pdf
That’s not quite EIT, but it’s pretty close and suggests the phrase may have been used internally even earlier.
May 19, 2009 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The phrase" was used more than 65 years ago, albeit in a different language: Verschärfte Vernehmung.
May 19, 2009 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is something I noticed in google search trends, which doesn't give you a first citation, but a general sense about the frequency of an idiom's usage on the net.
May 20, 2009 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink