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Defense lawyers for Guantanamo detainees are claiming that many of the Obama administration's proposed changes to the military commission system are cosmetic, and say they plan to keep challenging the system. (The New York Times)
Intelligence officers are saying they're concerned about whether the CIA can conduct interrogations effectively under the new rules laid out for the military. (The Washington Post)
Unlike many in Washington and the press, most Americans don't automatically side with the agency in its dispute with Nancy Pelosi. About 43 percent of respondents to a survey say it's at least somewhat likely that she was lied to by the CIA about waterboarding, while 41 percent say the CIA likely did not lie to her. (USA Today)
Irving Picard, the trustee for the Madoff firm, has sued Fairfield Greenwich, the largest feeder fund for Madoff, alleging that it "should have known" that Madoff's operation was fraudulent. (Wall Street Journal)
And just so we're clear, lap dancers and cocaine didn't cause the financial crisis. (Bloomberg News)
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1) Democracynow.org is reporting this morning of deliberate and intentional horrific and horrenduous Torture directly from the President Obama Administration orders continues to this day.
2) Also on Democracynow.org this morning it is reported that US Congressional Speaker Nancy Pelosi did now of Interrogations. Also, I would presume, she shuld have well made all appropriate inquiries and well should have known.
May 19, 2009 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm inclined to agree that military commission can be an appropriate forum for handling these cases if structured properly. The administration official who claimed that the hearsay is not a deeply rooted American value, however, is flat wrong.
The hearsay rule most definitely protects rights that are deeply rooted in American values. In a criminal proceeding, the hearsay rule protects the defendant's constitutional right to confront his accusers (U.S. Constitution, Amend. VI). It is also vital for ensuring that evidence is reliable. All of us remember playing the "whisper around the circle" game as children, and we all remember how distorted the message became after being passed around the circle. Would you want to be convicted on a evidence that was whispered around the circle? That's what the hearsay rule protects you against.
That said, there are appropriate exceptions to the hearsay rule. These apply when its necessary to use hearsay and the hearsay has indicia which suggest its reliable. I find it quite reasonable to suggest that there may need to be special hearsay rules for these proceedings. Its vital, however, that the defendants have an opportunity to confront their accusers and that any hearsay admitted have adequate indicia of reliability.
We don't punish people in this nation when we aren't certain that they are guilty. We choose to take the risk of letting the guilty go free ove the risk of condemning the innocent. That risk is one of the prices of our freedom. I can think of no value that is more deeply rooted in our nation's history.
May 19, 2009 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
We don't punish people in this nation when we aren't certain that they are guilty.
LOL
May 19, 2009 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
The more accurate "We aren't supposed to punish people ..." just doesn't have the same rhetorical appeal. =(
May 19, 2009 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since Obama is stalling on Torture, even turning a blind eye to continuing abuses, at least Madrid is doing something to pry open the secrets of Gitmo:
http://original.antiwar.com/scahill/2009/05/16/obama-thug-squad-brutalizing-prisoners-at-gitmo/
As the abuse continues at Guantánamo, and powerful congressional leaders from both parties and the White House fiercely resist the appointment of an independent special prosecutor, the sad fact is that the best chance for justice for the victims of U.S. Torture may well be an ocean away in Madrid, Spain.
"The Obama administration should not need pressure from abroad to uphold our own laws and initiate a criminal investigation in the U.S.," says Vince Warren, CCR’s executive director. "I hope the Spanish cases will impress on the president and Attorney General Eric Holder how seriously the rest of the world takes these crimes and show them the issue will not go away."
May 20, 2009 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink