Remember the disturbed young John McCain volunteer, who, in the closing days of last year's presidential campaign, carved a B into her face and pretended she'd been attacked by an African-American Obama supporter? Well, could we have a similar case on our hands -- only in reverse? SEE UPDATE BELOW.
To explain:
Two men were arrested yesterday after an attack on the Colorado Democratic Party headquarters in Denver, in which 11 windows, displaying posters supporting health-care reform, were smashed.
It looked like a case of conservative rage boiling over. State party chair Pat Waak thought so, declaring, in comments eagerly picked up by Think Progress: "Clearly there's been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it."
But wait. Police soon announced that they had arrested 24-year old Maurice Schwenkler, who allegedly wore a shirt over his face and latex gloves during the attack, then fled on a bicycle before quickly being caught. And Schwenkler doesn't exactly fit the profile of a right-winger.
According to campaign finance records looked at by the Denver Post, a person by that name last November was paid $500 by a group called Colorado Citizens Coalition. That group supported numerous Democratic campaigns last cycle, and the woman registered as its treasurer, Julie Wells, has been active with several liberal causes. Wells did not respond to TPMmuckraker's request for comment.
Schwenkler was also reportedly arrested for unlawful assembly at the 2008 GOP convention in Minneapolis.
And according to WestWord, the Denver alternative weekly, Schwenkler's address is the former location of the Derailer Bicycle Collective, a "radical, free bike fix-it shop". The current owner of the house is a well-known progressive activist who was once the U.S. coordinator for "Potters For Peace"
What about the other attacker? Details are sketchy, but an anarchist news site, for what its worth, is reporting that a person named Ariel Attack, a "Denver-based anarchist," has been arrested in connection with the incident. A supporter writes: "At this moment, we do not know Ariel's status within the jail, especially regarding her gender classification."
Posts by a writer using the name Ariel Attack have appeared at a site called Queers Against Obama, whose tagline declares that "Obamamania is nothing more than yet another manufactured nationalist frenzy." One post is titled "Obama's War On Queer and Trans Youth."
So there you have it. Recently, we've gotten a few glimpses into the fetid cesspool of hate and violence that characterizes the far-right fringe. Smashing windows is, of course, a far cry from murder. But are we now being reminded that the right doesn't have a monopoly on political violence?
Still, it's hard to know what's really going on here. If Maurice Schwenkler and Ariel Attack are indeed the perpetrators, was this a deliberate bait-and-switch, similar to the one perpetrated by the McCain volunteer, with the goal being to discredit conservative opponents of health-care reform? Or, was it more straightforward: far-left nihilists using violence to express their contempt for Obama and the Democratic party? Or some twisted combination of both?
Who knows? But we'll keep you posted as the facts get clearer.
Late Update: OK, the plot thickens...Gawker asserts that Ariel Attack is actually the same person as Maurice, noting the facts that only one person has been arrested, and that the anarchist posting says Ariel "is listed in the jail records and media under her birth name." It seems like that's probably right.
Assuming that's true, there's a broader implication for the story. It seemed to us in writing this post earlier that the goal of the attack was to discredit conservatives, by getting them blamed for it. That was because the one person who had been reliably reported to have been arrested had a background working for a group supportive of Democrats. But now, given that the person arrested has anarchist ties and is on the record as a vocal left-wing opponent of Obama, it looks like that interpretation was wrong. It now seems more likely that the goal was more straight-forward: to express anger at Obama and the Democrats.
Apologies for the evolving take on this story. We'll keep working to get a handle on it as things progress.

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Chris
August 26, 2009 1:50 PM
Little off subject, but if anyone wants to see a complete Republican Fantasy World meltdown, give it a read.
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JosephP
August 26, 2009 1:54 PM
This is not a similar case to the McCain volunteer that carved a backwards "B" into her face because the accused perpetrators did not claim to be Republican. We don't really know why they did the vandalism, but there is nothing concerning bearing false witness as there was in the McCain volunteer case. It may have nothing with politics---perhaps they worked there and were fired.
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Stiggs
August 26, 2009 3:06 PM in reply to JosephP
In order for this to be similar to the backwards B case, Pat Waak would have to have known that it was lefties that did this.
I suppose if the perps intended for it to be interpreted as people on the right committing the vandalism in the hopes of backlash then you could draw some similarities. But based on the available information, an equally plausible explanation would be that a couple of anarchists with loose ties to the left vandalized the place because they oppose health care reform. Which certainly makes sense, who would be more opposed to a large, centralized government program than anarchists? (Republicans haven't cornered the market of preferring small government or on political violence for that matter.)
It seems to me that the initial reporting and this article are both the result of jumping to simplified conclusions which are weakly supported by the available facts. Maybe we should be a little more careful about not getting out in front of these stories.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 3:08 PM in reply to JosephP
I agree. Ashley Todd claimed that she was attacked by Obama supporters who carved a "B" into her face, when in actuality she did it herself in an attempt to to cast aspersions on "Obama thugs." In this case a Democratic Party HQ was vandalized, apparently by someone who may have supported Democratic casues in the past, and a full-blown anarchist. Why? We don't know.
They may have been trying to make Republicans look bad. They may have been pissed at Democrats for not taking a stronger stand on the public option. They may be Nader supporters. "Who knows?" Exactly. It's quite a leap for Zach Roth to say this may be "similar" to the Roth incident, without all the facts being known. Leave the equivalency speculation to the MSM, Zach.
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Tom Betz
August 26, 2009 4:03 PM in reply to JosephP
Sounds more like a backwards "O" to me.
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Clavis
August 26, 2009 2:21 PM
Whatever happens, it seems that, as usual, the truth is just a LEEETLE more important to us on the left than it tends to be with the "Kerning!" crowd on the right...
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fbacon2
August 26, 2009 2:32 PM
If Obama and Biden actually called this guy on the phone to express their condolences, like McCain and Palin did for the backward B crazy person, then MAYBE we'd have a case in parallel scale.
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ally
August 26, 2009 2:35 PM
Yeah I think you jumped much too fast to a likely comparison to the McCain "B" girl and her accusations. I don't read anything yet to give that impression. Need more info before any conclusions. Disappointed you jumped to that conclusion too quick.
You never know what cause anarchists (if thee guys are) are working towards - so I would rather wait for more info to figure out what these guys were trying jusify vandalism for. And what's with the "political violence" phrasing?
Domestic Terrorism is threatening and doing harm to others - vandalism is - vandalism. The B girl's false accusations were false accusations possibly with political motivations. And this CO incident is possibly politically motivated vandalism - but not even close to your using political violence (like assassinations?). I would use Caution with that phrasing.
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ally
August 26, 2009 2:37 PM in reply to ally
Oops s/b "I haven't read anything yet..."
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 7:35 PM in reply to ally
Ally,
I think I agree that Zach's conclusion is premature. But as I look back at his story, it's that conclusion that seems to bring it together sufficiently to be worth publishing in the first place.
It's somewhat interesting that the individual arrested for defacing a Democratic Headquarters is possibly a transgender anarchist who might have a grudge against Obama. But that's not the story that was written, possibly because the key facts that would establish that as a story could not be confirmed adequately. And as someone above pointed out, this is simple vandalism. The only thing that raised it to a level of broad interest is the possibility that it was politically motivated.
One other thought. It doesn't seem likely to me that whoever did the vandalism was a right-winger. The right wing supports its thugs better and would not expect them to escape on a bicycle, even in Colorado.
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HawkeyeD
August 26, 2009 2:51 PM
A year ago anarchists were protesting Obama's nomination and the Democratic National Convention in Denver. The simplistic notion that American politics exists solely on a left/right axis is wrong.
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mcc
August 26, 2009 2:52 PM
So you start off suggesting that the attacks were done by leftists in order to discredit Republicans, but then the evidence you produce, taken at face value, seems to indicate that the attacks were done by leftists because they are of a faction that hates Obama?
The "Ariel Attack" sentiments you quote-- given the caveat that there is very little solid to indicate she had anything to do with the attack-- is actually not all that uncommon if you read gay blogs. There's a certain group who have become convinced that the only reason we haven't repealed DADT and DOMA already is because Obama is secretly an evangelical christian pulling out all the stops behind the scenes to defend heteronormativity or whatever.
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The Old Grouch
August 26, 2009 3:40 PM in reply to mcc
How would that square with his secret Muslim beliefs?
Gotta keep the paranoid conjectures straight, now...
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mcc
August 26, 2009 5:08 PM in reply to The Old Grouch
Depending on who you listen to he's secretly a Muslim, secretly a Jew, or secretly an extreme right-wing Christian. He is all things to all people, even his enemies.
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 7:43 PM in reply to The Old Grouch
Different groups of paranoids. A similar mental illness is not sufficient to gather them into a cohesive group which coordinates their paranoid fantasies. The similar paranoid mental processes do not directly lead to coordinated paranoid fantasies.
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mcc
August 26, 2009 8:09 PM in reply to mcc
is actually not all that uncommon if you read gay blogs.
Hm, so I only just now found TPM's link to the full article and um, wow, maybe not. I have to say "repealing DADT is a secret plot to kill gays" is a sentiment I have not, in fact, at any point encountered in the gay community before now.
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buck
August 26, 2009 2:57 PM
Damn it, Zach! I normally let typos go by in a blog, but you got to fix the ones here (and you can delete my post after you do). It's "fit" not "fight" and "paid" not "pad".
As for the anarchists, that was my first suspicion (as it often is)--sort of a "kill two birds" scenario--express your dissatisfaction with the supposedly liberal (NOT!) Democratic Party and shift the blame on teabaggers. It's not quite Chuck Stuart or Susan Smith, but it's a little more imaginative than the backwards B.
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buck
August 27, 2009 12:35 AM in reply to buck
Thanks for fixing the typos--as an editor, I was really bothered by their oddity.
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soupson52
August 27, 2009 1:32 AM in reply to buck
giggle. Love your assessment.
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Matt Jones
August 26, 2009 3:00 PM
The difference is that on the left, the radicals are marginalized and minimally tolerated. On the right, they elect them to office...
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JNagarya
August 26, 2009 3:30 PM in reply to Matt Jones
The difference is that on the "left" there isn't much of a "left," and hasn't been much of a "left" left since the late 1960s.
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LarsThorwald
August 26, 2009 3:01 PM
Well, I'm not so sure that pot-smoking, glove-wearing, bike-collective free-rider enthusiasts from Colorado necessarily fall into the traditional Democratic mold anymore than they fit into the libertarian/Nader/LaRouchie mold. Or maybe he's a "South Park Republican" or whatever.
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Hugh.G.Wreckshun
August 26, 2009 3:04 PM
There is no equivalence to the Backwards B incident. The perpetrators have not tried to accuse falsely their political enemies, the Colorado Dems have not embraced the false accusation with premature enthusiasm, and there has been significantly less facial disfigurement.
This appears to be just what it is: a small group of vandals whose political leanings do not fit neatly into either political party. They appear to be anarchists - the same people who turn every Anti-WTO demonstration into a gas-masked free-for-all and then watch as the Democrats, Liberals and Progressives take the blame for it.
Anarchists are anarchists. They are not a fringe of the left in any way. If anything they are an offshoot of the Randian libertarianism that has driven conservatives and the GOP off the edge of rationality.
This article is a black mark on Zack Roth's record. The meme that he is attempting to create is specious and reckless.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 3:11 PM in reply to Hugh.G.Wreckshun
Agreed. You're better than this, Zach.
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sabatia
August 26, 2009 3:16 PM
Eric, I would quibble with your use of the term "nihilists" to describe the prospective perps. This implies that they are against all government and laws, which is probably not the case. They just want a "perfect" government, ie. one that is at minimum extremely liberal. Rather than being nihilists, they are idealists. They feel very strongly about what they see as unjust laws. They share a strong affinity with the radical(mainstream?) right, which talks alot lately, since a Dem and a Black man at that are in the White House, in that they believe that the injustices that they see require not merely illegal, but violent action.
The issue can be confusing. Even Thoreau, among the inventors and great annunciators of civil disobedience, lauded John Brown for taking up arms against slavery. That is, there are wrongs that are so egregious that they amount to tyranny. Where do we draw the line? Perhaps, rightly or wrongly, they felt that the line had been crossed. This does't make them nihilists.
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thomas1
August 26, 2009 3:16 PM
"Anarchists of the World Unite! Bring Better Government to the Masses!"
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Hugh.G.Wreckshun
August 26, 2009 3:34 PM in reply to thomas1
This meeting of the World Anarchists Organization will now come to order!
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 8:18 PM in reply to Hugh.G.Wreckshun
As soon as the meeting comes to order the Anarchists are going to pass a single, unified Anarchist platform for the government they are working to establishment.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 26, 2009 3:36 PM
Well we're at least being reminded they don't have a monopoly on teh stoopid.
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rubyxyz
August 26, 2009 3:39 PM
TPM's main page references to this story are very misleading. With a blog link titled "Pulling a Backwards B?" and a news item with the header "Attack On Colorado Dem HQ Looks To Be Work Of Lefties." the casual reader will be left with the impression that CO Dems staged an attack on their own headquarters. Bad spin. Hope the front page changes soon.
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JNagarya
August 26, 2009 3:53 PM
I think it'll come down to "leftists" who objected to Democrats. Or far-right lunatic fringers falsely claiming to be "leftists" in effort to discredit both "leftists" and Democrats.
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charleshugh
August 26, 2009 4:02 PM
What It Seems?
Why would you ever assume Republicans did this? Does the GOP have a long history of window breaking? I would think that there are enough left/right wing hate groups out there (not to mention an endless supply of nuts and vandals) that a reasonable person would not form any opinion until the facts were in.
"This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man."
Maybe its time to question your motives rather than the motives of the GOP Bogeyman.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 5:09 PM in reply to charleshugh
Yeah, it's not like they've broken anything in the past. Brooks Brothers riot, abortion clinic bombings and shootings, Unitarian Church shooting, assassination of Dr. Tiller...no Republicans involved in any of those.
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 8:24 PM in reply to charleshugh
One word. Kristallnacht.
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synchronicity
August 26, 2009 4:06 PM
I think it is weird to imply that this is at all like the 'B' carver. I don't think it is appropriate to make the connection. Seems for facts are needed to get clarity on what is going on here and it actually doesn't help the situation to make this implication.
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twirling fartknocker
August 26, 2009 4:13 PM
the 2008 GOP convention was in St. Paul
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 4:57 PM
It seemed to us in writing this post earlier that the goal of the attack was to discredit conservatives, by getting them blamed for it.
Why did it seem that way? Because it would make for a good headline? Apology accepted, but please try to keep from drawing conclusions like this, in the absence of facts, in the future. That's just not good journalism.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 5:01 PM
Also, Josh's pointer to this post, as well as the headline on the front page, still seem to be intimating that this was an attempt by Democrats ("Leftists!1!1!!!") to make Republicans look bad (as if they needed any help). Please update those as well.
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davidf
August 26, 2009 5:04 PM
Wow -- imagine a conservative site coming up with something like this. An honest assessment of the known facts of a story which don't paint a pretty picture of the progressive side of things..
This is the thing about TPM and other progressive blogs - you guys generally tell it like it is, letting the chips fall where they may, whether or not it's to our benefit, on the face of things..
Very open minded, very well done - I trust you'll continue with honest, straightforward updates on this story and look forward to reading them, as always!
Thanks!
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 5:13 PM in reply to davidf
Um, I'm trying to see where "the progressive side of things" has anything to do with this incident (as the facts are currently known), but I really can't. Unless you're saying that "anarchist" = "progressive," in which case there's a fellow named Jonah Goldberg who wrote a book he'd like to sell you.
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 8:30 PM in reply to commie atheist
What I think Davidf is saying is that the people here are trying to dig into the facts as presented and determine the reality behind them, rather than trying to develop an advocate's spin that makes the left wing position look better in comparison to the right wing.
If that's what he meant, I definitely concur. Reality is more important than political advocacy. Almost everyone who has posted here is working from that idea.
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CVille Dem
August 26, 2009 6:06 PM in reply to davidf
No it's not. It is a poorly researched mea culpa that is completely wrong! It wasn't someone on the Left trying to implicate the Right! This is really disappointing. Please read the whole thing including comments.
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Campesino
August 26, 2009 8:22 PM in reply to davidf
Well, not really as Think Progress led this as a presumed Republican/Tea Party act of violence and still has not updated their post to reflect the truth. Props to TPM for honesty
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wendy davis
August 26, 2009 5:25 PM
Could you explain to me why "anarchists" are "leftist." I don't know nuffin' much abouot "anarchists."
I will google it in the meantime.
Thanks.
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Dave Bowman
August 26, 2009 5:25 PM
Or, perhaps, The Dude is working for the CO Dem party, and those damn German nihlists are after him again.
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wendy davis
August 26, 2009 5:26 PM
p.s. The photo above is surely of a very pretty girl, yes?
The Schwenkler?
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jonnienohands
August 26, 2009 5:40 PM in reply to wendy davis
photo confuses me too wendy
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jonnienohands
August 26, 2009 5:43 PM in reply to jonnienohands
That's him, only a lad.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 6:18 PM in reply to jonnienohands
Apparently a transsexual. Born Maurice Schwenkler, now Ariel.
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happycozy
August 26, 2009 5:35 PM
No one wants to address the elephant in the room. If this story is true, and a transgendered person attacked the Democratic Party, we need to ask ourselves if: 1. Does Obama's footdragging on LGBT issues warrent this kind of criminal act, and do SOME--not all--in LGBT community need to take a step back and do some soul searching. 2. Are SOME progressives responsible for festering an environment where leftist groups feel so "betrayed" by Obama that they must commit acts of violence.
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commie atheist
August 26, 2009 6:24 PM in reply to happycozy
What story? Everything here is pure speculation. This story shouldn't have even been written until all the facts are in. It reminds me of the bullshit cable TV shows, like Nancy Grace, where a bunch of people are all speculating about who may have kidnapped or killed some missing white woman, when only the barest of facts are known.
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happycozy
August 26, 2009 6:51 PM in reply to commie atheist
you're right. we should wait until the full story comes out.
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Richardxx
August 26, 2009 8:38 PM in reply to happycozy
There are some wackos in the LGBT community just like in any other group of human beings. And just as the fact that there are criminals and Wackos who are African-American, Asian, or White does not mean that anyone of those races is a wacko, neither does the occasional trans-gender wacko mean that other trans-genders (or LGBT for that matter) are suspect as wackos.
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happycozy
August 26, 2009 11:44 PM in reply to Richardxx
I never said transgendered folks were predisposed to be criminals--not sure where you got that from. I would say, however, if one browses the reader comments about Obama on DailyKos and Americablog, one would have a hard time distinguishing some of those comments from comments on RedState. Couple the distain some on liberal blogs have for Obama with the meme out lately by Rich, Krugman, and Greenwald, that Obama is a Manchurian Candidate who duped progressives, and I would say there is a likelihood some on the left would turn violent. My point is that we progressives need to look within to see if perhaps we are also festering an environment of hate. I would assert it's not just the teabaggers, but some of us, too.
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Richardxx
August 27, 2009 8:14 AM in reply to happycozy
You are correct that it is a good time to remember the methods of non-violent change. It's an effective counter to the violence the right-wing is so attracted to.
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GTFOOH
August 26, 2009 5:35 PM
Have to give um credit for creativity! Right out of a Lee Atwater play book!
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CVille Dem
August 26, 2009 5:52 PM
This is like the girl who carved a B into her face and lied about it being done by a big black guy who said something about hating McCain --- how, exactly?
This is getting a lint-sized piece of information, and writing about it as thought it is BREAKING NEWS! This is exactly the kind of crap that gives the blogosphere a bad name. How about finding out some real information about the perpetrators before posting a blog? How about a legitimate comparison?
The only thing that these two stories have in common, from the "information" at hand, is the willingness of those writing about it to go batshit with assumptions!
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CVille Dem
August 26, 2009 6:04 PM in reply to CVille Dem
CAPS for emphasis (mine):
Seems like it? based on what, exactly?
It seemed to you because you jumped to a conclusion with NO evidence and didn't take the time to fact-check.
He was always all those things. He didn't go on the record a couple of hours ago. This blog was carelessly written to show how the Left fesses up to its problems. Problem is, THIS WASN'T THE LEFT DOING HANKY-PANKY WITH THE TRUTH, AS THE "B" CARVING GIRL WAS DOING!
With friends like this, we don't need enemies. Just wait. Sarah Palin and her ilk will pick up on this and run it in its original way, and the truth will be lost because of sloppy work.
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CVille Dem
August 26, 2009 8:04 PM in reply to CVille Dem
From Huffington Post: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/26/colorado-gop-calls-apology-democratic-office-vandalism/
May I remind everyone that the GOP only deserves an apology from those who misrepresented this entire fiasco?
As I said before, this give bloggers a bad name, and with friends like this, who needs enemies?
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Campesino
August 26, 2009 8:26 PM in reply to CVille Dem
The GOP deserves an apology from the Chairman of the Colorado Democratic Party who accused them or their allies of the act. This was prior to her knowing that a person who worked on Democratic campaigns last Fall actually did it
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commie atheist
August 27, 2009 1:12 PM in reply to Campesino
Party Chairwoman Pat Waak attributed the violence to the intensity surrounding the health care debate, saying, “Clearly there’s been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it.”
Sorry, not seeing anyone being accused of anything in that statement. Based on all the violent rhetoric being shouted and the assault rifles appearing at the town halls, I can't see that there's anything controversial in that statement.
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Campesino
August 27, 2009 7:43 PM in reply to commie atheist
Who do you think she means by "other side"? The Green Party? Get real
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commie atheist
August 28, 2009 2:00 AM in reply to Campesino
Are you saying that Republicans haven't tried to "stir up hate"? If so, you haven't been paying much attention. I still don't see her accusing anyone specifically, just that the lunatic fringe of the Republican party has been stirring things up to the point where an act of violence seems like a logical outcome. But I don't see who she needs to "apologize" to. Maybe that guy with the assault rifle in Arizona?
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PeakRo
August 26, 2009 6:06 PM
If I read the report right, the second person arrested was linked to a Gay/Lesbian group that may have a beef with the Obama administration's lack of support for the cause. I wonder if this is the motivation rather than some attempt to frame-up conservatives. Just wondering.
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syvanen
August 26, 2009 7:15 PM
Knew something was fishy when I read yesterday the culprits escaped on bicycles. No self respecting righist ride bicycles. Now if they had escaped in a pickup truck.
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downburst
August 26, 2009 8:35 PM
"Nihilist"? "Twisted"? Regardless of who knew what when, this is irresponsible language. Anarchism is not a nihilist philosophy (and, pace some comments higher up in the thread, it predates Rand by centuries); it's one of the roots of the modern left. I doubt Proudhon, Bakunin, or Emma Goldman would have agreed with your characterization. This is really a shameful botch of an article.
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rashomon
August 26, 2009 8:53 PM
If you have ever been to 'Liberal Oasis' or 'Riverdaughter' you will find leftists who hate Obama. They are better known as PUMAs and while this woman may not have been one of them if you go read these blogs you will see deranged hatred like you see on right wing sites. Frankly, it is odd and a bit scary. But it exists.
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mcc
August 26, 2009 11:39 PM
Bah! Gaysagainstobama.org has blocked off access to the outside world. Did anyone manage to make a mirror first?
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mcc
August 27, 2009 12:51 AM in reply to mcc
(I attempted to post this and it was held "for moderation" by TPM. This is something TPM's software seems to automatically do when it thinks a comment contains too many links. Comments put into moderation rarely seem to come out, so I'm reposting with links removed.)
Never mind, Google Cache has a snapshot from before it went down. I've managed to grab a local mirror of the site's entire run. Not sure what to do with it.
Looking at the site one thing that's kind of interesting to me is that Ariel was apparently in some fashion affiliated with Bash Back. The "war on queer and trans youth" post TPM linked contained this brief note:
...linking to Bash Back News at wordpress.
Also via Google Cache, one finds that, interestingly, earlier today Bash Back News had an article up nearly word for word the same as the "infoshop" release linked above, except identifying Ariel as a Bash Back member:
The post has since been deleted. Doesn't look like anybody's really enthusiastic about being identified with this incident. Although poking around a site called "Denver Anarchist Black Cross" does seem to be keeping their updates up and sometime today posted this:
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sponson
August 27, 2009 3:23 PM
Some very good internet investigation and reporting in this post. However, can we refrain from using the phrase "political violence" when it's an act of simple vandalism? There is a bright line of distinction between breaking a window in an empty office building at night, and committing violence, which means attacking living things.
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