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CNN has picked up our story from yesterday on Steven Anderson, the Arizona pastor who prayed for Barack Obama's death the day before one of his parishioners, who attended the sermon, brought an AR-15 rifle to an Obama event.

And they've advanced the story a bit: CNN analyst Mike Brooks reports that the Secret Service has interviewed Anderson, who told TPMmuckraker yesterday: "To be honest with you, I have prayed for Obama to die. I'm not the only one, I'm just the only one with the spine to say it."

Here's the relevant bit of the segment, in which Rich Sanchez interviews Brooks and former Secret Service agent Scott Alswang:

The Secret Service did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

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August 28, 2009 4:42 PM   

...and the spineless Demo-puppies won't even raise a squawk. Jesus H. Christ.

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August 28, 2009 4:45 PM    in reply to EastWest

what?

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August 28, 2009 9:07 PM    in reply to EastWest

Concern-troll is concerned.

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August 29, 2009 5:26 PM    in reply to EH

Notice how they are so often these kind of trolls are the first with the worst?

I have a theory that every blog that was notably influential in blowing away the Republican majority in 2006 was subsequently assigned a pro-troll or two, to hang on every new post and throw cold water on it, to basically try to diminish that influence.

Call me paranoid, but it seems the likely thing for them to do in response to their electoral humiliation. When 2008 proved even more devastating to the republicans and the neocons who ruled them, it only proved they can't fool a well-informed public.

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August 29, 2009 8:54 PM    in reply to JEP07

I know this troll. He lives at home with him Mom. The only time he misses being #1 poster is when he is popping his zits in the bathroom mirror or furiously masturbating to a picture of Ann Coutler's feet.

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August 28, 2009 4:44 PM   

I have been digging around the net on this guy over the past 24 hours.

A Christian blog, hosted by BeliefNet - actually posted on the issue on Wednesday afternoon - http://blog.beliefnet.com/reformedchicksblabbing/2009/08/baptist-pastor-prays-for-obama.html (they also embed a brief MSNBC clip)

As a Christian person, I, along with the authors of the blog, am "appalled a Christian would pray for the death and damnation of anyone." And ask with them "Isn't it our job to pray for salvation? Aren't we called to love our enemies? What's up with this guy, doesn't he know about grace and the love of God?"

The answers: yes, yes, and sadly, not.

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August 28, 2009 8:32 PM    in reply to PMinDC

I think it benefits society when liberal Christians decry abhorrent actions of extremist Christians. Salute. But why not go the one transformative step further and clean your house, clear the name of your religion, as it were, by insisting that those who violate its values not call themselves Christians? Why not un-ordain the "pastor?" Is there a remedy for that?

I ask this because when I meet people who identify themselves as Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc., the meaning is confusing or empty because it varies so much, from say, humanistic optimist, such as yourself, all the way to self-fulfilling-prophecy-end-timer like ex Governor Palin.

How does it feel when you read of such actions taken by a 'fellow' Christian? It must sting a little? What does it make you want to do about it?

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August 28, 2009 10:40 PM    in reply to Mark Smith

Ummm, because he's not the Capo di tutti Capi of the Christians?

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August 31, 2009 1:49 PM    in reply to Mark Smith

The only entity with the authority to defrock a priest is the church that ordained him in the first place. I'm a Presbyterian; the Presbyterians have no say in whether or not this guy can call himself a minister.

That church calls itself "Baptist," but it may only be some splinter group that has co-opted the denominational name. I doubt seriously that it is part of any major Baptist convention.

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August 28, 2009 11:50 PM    in reply to PMinDC

Um... just read Jeff Sharet's The Family if you want to understand the dominant strand of "Christianity" that would do such things. ("Morality is for the little people... ." I guess we can also overlook the whole "crusades" or "inquisition" or Cotton Mather stuff for now, though, right?)

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August 28, 2009 4:48 PM   

GOOD! If you want Steve's email or phone # see my latest blog (and recco it!!)

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August 28, 2009 4:50 PM   

This guy is a lunatic and shouldn't get air time.

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August 28, 2009 4:52 PM   

This is infuriating. Look no further than this to understand why failure is THE agenda item. We have got to pull our zealots out of the public square, by the hair, if necessary. The crusader war led by the knights who say "xe!" has bankrupted this nation in every sense of the word.

Is this the Autumn of Courage for the Democratic Party? It will be in power for 40 more years if it seizes its potential.

But it really has to wipe this dogshit of its heels first.

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August 28, 2009 4:56 PM   

Hunting tags, prayers for death, handguns and assault rifles at presidential events . . . WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS with enough courage to talk this lunacy down??? Perhaps I'm naive but I honestly don't think that Orrin Hatch or Mitch McConnell want to see Obama assassinated. At what point are they going to step up and say, "Folks, chill out. You're talking and thinking crazy. You're talking treason against your own country. Stop it. NOW" ??

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August 28, 2009 5:00 PM    in reply to rmichelson

Sarah Palin wouldn't do it.

Even Chuck Grassley wouldn't do it.

John McCain does it, but too little, too late.

It assures the quaint era when we did not openly criticize the clearly deadly dangerous magic thinking upon which our public policy is based is now past.

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August 28, 2009 8:14 PM    in reply to rmichelson

I'm not so sure they (Hatch and McConnell) don't want him satisfied. You are giving them far too much credit.

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August 29, 2009 12:30 AM    in reply to rmichelson

Why would they talk down what they are fomenting? The only ones left are all hard Right "new chosen" zealots. That thing about the "Reagan Revolution" about 30 years back? You think they were being metaphoric with that?

It has been a PR driven, we-just-bought-up-all-the-mass-media-outlets bloodless coups for all this time. And now, because they ruined the economy, the short-attention-span, zombified, if it doesn't fit in a tweet it's TMI masses are waking up, and the corporate cartel that runs everything realizes they may just need to get us to killing each other to ensure nothing wrests away their control over the governmental steering wheel.

And the sad thing is many people will still believe my little "rant" is just some paranoid delusion, instead of the "choose between the red pill and the blue pill" moment we now face.

The evidence is on blatant display all around us, but the "it couldn't happen here" mind-set, that tenacious denial, is a very, very hard thing to shake.

When there are people like REPUBLICAN John Dean writing books of warning such as Worse than Watergate and Broken Government and we hear libertarian thinkers like constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley suggesting over and over, for years now, that our government has broken, without any form of impunity, maybe all but two of the Bill of Rights, we are supposed to hear their warnings and take them at face value.

And of course there's Frank Schaeffer, one of three people responsible for starting the whole neoconservative religious-right movement of the past 30+ years (read his book, Crazy for God, where he tries to "take back" what he set rolling in this country). In his appearance on Rachel Maddow's, she asked him point blank if he felt the right wing use of Nazi and similar imagery and language will lead to violence.

His answer, in a word: "Yes." And, since he personally knows many of the behind the scenes strategists playing this gambit, he feels they are doing so with intention.

They intend for this to turn violent. They will do absolutely anything to prevent "we the people" from reasserting our ownership of this government.

And when I say on open display, what do I mean? Think on this: Ronald Reagan is famous for the statement about how the government does not solve problems, it is the problem.

If "We the People" are the government, what does that really tell us, right?

Trickle-down economics indeed. A LOT of people sucked that one in, hook, line and sinker (and they're the ones that went on a mad gun buying spree after the November elections because their corporate brains were whispering in their ears the Obama would take their guns away...).

In the words of Neocon rocker, Uncle Ted: They are cocked, locked and ready to rock.

And this isn't even really a Left vs. Right thing, so much as it is a loosely affiliated, loosely organized corporate cabal against all the rest of us. But they've duped the low-information poor crowd into believing THEY are the real America, and We the People are the "fascists."

Clinical types call that projection.

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August 28, 2009 5:06 PM   

However, for their organizations to remain tax exempt under IRC section 501(c)(3), religious leaders cannot make partisan comments in official organization publications or at official church functions.

from the IRS's Tax Guide for Churches and Religious Organizations

This quote is talking specifically about church officials commenting on political candidates. But, to be a dick for a moment, it seems like taking a strong position on a currently elected politician could still jeopardize the church's tax exempt status. Also, I doubt this guy waited until after the election before he started sharing his wisdom on Obama with his flock.

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August 29, 2009 12:49 AM    in reply to Stiggs

Yeah. Right. So people who wore anti-Bush T-shirts to the 04 Rethug convention were hauled off to jail (true: it was catch and release "crime" fighting there), yet people can pack heat at Obama's and other Dem town halls and Obama's life can be threatened?

"Our country owed all her troubles to him, and God simply made me the instrument of his punishment." - John Wilkes Boothe in his post-assassination diary entry.

These ministers know what dog whistles they blow, and that there are always those out there who can hear them.

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August 28, 2009 5:08 PM   

I thought if you openly talked about wanting POTUS to die you got more than a few minutes of face time with the secret service.

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August 28, 2009 5:13 PM    in reply to eve cairo

A Congressional Subpoena used to strike raw terror in the hearts of mortals.

Welcome to our monotheistic religious failocracy.

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August 28, 2009 5:19 PM   

The pastor had better go back and reread his scriptures. I believe it is in Romans where Paul says we should pray for our elected officals, cause they are in office becase God put them there. It does make you wonder about Bush, doesn't it? ooh that's right, he cheated twice, didnt he?

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August 28, 2009 5:41 PM   

If he had done this under Little Georgie, he would have been picked by a C-130 and flown to Kazahkstan for the interview.

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August 28, 2009 5:50 PM   

This is beyond my understanding. I despised George W. Bush more than I would have thought it possible to despise a public figure, but never once did I wish, even privately, for his death. And not just because Cheney would have become president.

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August 29, 2009 2:58 PM    in reply to navamske

The only exception to this statement is after a proper and thorough trial of Bush.


Sad how the feds will arrest any pothead they can, but are they hauling off threats to the like of the Commander-in-Chief? I certainly don't see that happening.

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August 28, 2009 5:56 PM   

A true Christian pastor would NEVER preach for a President to die. Instead they would preach that the President would have a change of heart.

That pastor is disgusting for preaching that he wants a President to die. No matter how much I disliked Bush, I never wished that he would die. I just wished he would do things differently.

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August 28, 2009 6:05 PM   

God as a Celestial Assassin? Praying for him to kill those you dislike?

Does this sound like anything Jesus would do?

I await to hear about all those evangelical Ministers uniting to denounce such un-Christian travesty.

Nothing so far... how long will I have to wait do you suppose?

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August 28, 2009 6:51 PM    in reply to CareyInLA

Apparently this pastor is actually a "secret Muslim," which everyone is to believe are all terrorists.

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August 28, 2009 6:12 PM   

OK, I'll admit there were times I wanted someone to plug Cheney, or to have the opportunity to confront him myself so I could slap the smirk off his face. Such was my hatred for that evil man. But I never advocated assassination publicly and, if given the opportunity, probably couldn't have done the killing deed. (Slapping Dick might be another matter...) I don't even own a gun. However, for a pastor to actually PRAY for the death of the president... This "preacher" needs some attitude adjustment and needs it now. I hope the Secret Service visit lets him know this preaching is unacceptable. I'm glad for this visit. Dems and Repubs MUST get a clue. This racist, anti-government hatred has gone TOO FAR. Both parties must speak out loudly against it, immediately.

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August 28, 2009 6:19 PM   

I wonder what seminary that pastor got his divinity degree from.

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August 28, 2009 6:49 PM    in reply to kth

Sears & Roebuck.

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August 28, 2009 6:53 PM    in reply to kth

Khurch of the Klueless Kucked Klan.

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August 28, 2009 6:46 PM   

What an awful, awful person. Perhaps some future historian will do a study of 20th-century America to find out how we were able to produce such hateful, negative individuals in a country supposedly dedicated to freedom and human dignity.

I don't understand right-wingers at all. They are like invaders from another Universe. I am so sick of them I could scream.

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August 28, 2009 7:35 PM   

Where is the line?? Is it this guy?? Is it Beck?? Is it Limberger??

Even before today (Friday, Aug. 29) Beck was a raving lunatic - pure and simple - but as stated and highlighted in this article his rantings are lunacy at best, but today, he actually advocated the overthrow of the US Government, by force if necessary..That's over the line...just over the line..I'll support any wing of whatever party in their right to dissent and use speech as a hammer until my last breath, but Beck has crossed the threshold on inciting people to take action by force against the government and that's GOT to stop.

Are you listening FCC?? Secret Service?? ANYONE????

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August 29, 2009 12:44 AM    in reply to Winski

Now you're getting why Scalia's actvist "Heller" falsely holds that the Second protects an individual right: the next step is for those individuals to form private "militia"/standing armies.

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August 28, 2009 7:38 PM   

I wish this would stay front in center in the MSM just so I can hear the twisted knots the Republicans will start spouting about "freedom of religion" allows this kind of crap. I like rmichels wonder where the voice of reason is in the republican party. I hope the SS gets very active and very public about visiting all these wingnuts every time they say anything hinting harm to Obama; that might clear out half the chickenshits out. But watch - the republicans will try to pass an amendment to the constitution saying it is one of the god given rights granted by those christian fanatical founding fathers to try to assassinate the POTUS - after all why would they grant the right to arms if they can't use them to kill off the government officials that are trying to run their lives. We kicked King George to the curb didn't we?
I shouldn't be commenting on this crap after 6 pm. I get so wound up I can't get to sleep!

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August 28, 2009 8:27 PM   

we need to cut off their funding, i.e. my property tax payments. these assclowns need to pay to play. the asshole baptist church a block from me has the nerve to send people to my door to "save me" but they never come holding a property tax refund check.

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August 28, 2009 10:52 PM   

This guy, besides breaking federal law, makes Reverend Wright pretty tame in comparison. So why not charge him and have him explain himself in court?

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August 28, 2009 11:13 PM   

You gotta plant a seed-a... A seed-a sumac-a.

This pastor is the Devil.

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August 28, 2009 11:29 PM   

He harasses a policeman at Phoenix Sky Harbor airport for carrying an assault rifle (- as ordered. The cop tells him to talk to his sergeant about it).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cD2BCBaNaM&feature=channel

but it's fine for one of his flock to carry on at a political rally

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August 28, 2009 11:34 PM   

How long before the wingnuts call the Secret Service interview "jack-booted government thugs interfering with a pastor's freedom"?

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August 29, 2009 4:52 AM   

Note to Pastor Anderson: That praying thing? It doesn't work. Despite the prayers of millions of Americans, George W. Bush survived the entire eight years of his presidency. And despite the fervent prayers of many military families, over 4000 American servicemen and women never made it home from his war of self-aggrandizement in Iraq.

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August 29, 2009 8:16 AM   

"Note to Pastor Anderson: That praying thing? It doesn't work. Despite the prayers of millions of Americans, George W. Bush survived the entire eight years of his presidency. And despite the fervent prayers of many military families, over 4000 American servicemen and women never made it home from his war of self-aggrandizement in Iraq."

God is not a Genie granting three wishes to those who "find" him. Otherwise we would all be dead or turned into jellyfish from all of the Christians we've ticked off. Worse yet, all of us who read TPM would be slaves to some GOP kid who wished that all TPMers worked for him for free. It's kind of like physics and the theory of 10 dimensions (versus 3 dimensions plus time as the 4th). Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it can't exist. Unfortunately this so called "pastor" (don't dignify him with the title) and his flock subscribe to the "God is a genie in a bottle" school of thought.

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August 29, 2009 10:23 AM    in reply to drmoore

drmoore I couldn't help LOL.
On that note if prayer is "the genie in the bottle"
There are a lot of people all over the world with dead relatives praying for the end of our "defensive stance" and probability praying for the end of the taxpayer that fund the killing also.
That said lets hope there isn't a "GENIE IN THE BOTTLE"

Hey if the genie is democratic we may be screwed?
I think there is a big screwed over world out there.

Hey maybe the genie has an electoral college so each "vote" prayer won't count.

My self I pray for the clarity to stop the greed.

Wait a minute if I pray for the end of greed I may lose my corporate job.

I'll get back to you on what I'll be praying for.

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August 29, 2009 10:32 AM   

Strutting around with a big gun outside the (black) president's town hall meeting is great publicity for the wingnuts. What is the best way to combat this, in the battle for the Great American Middle?

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August 29, 2009 2:12 PM   

I just posted a NEW hysterical crank call to Chris on my blog... please listen and recco...

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August 29, 2009 4:49 PM   

I don't believe any of this, but for those who do, you really have to wonder what they're thinking, considering what the bible says in Matthew:

42 ”For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

43 ”I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

To those whose goal is to "Kill Health Care Reform" you really have to wonder if their "faith" is just a convenient charade.

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August 31, 2009 12:08 PM    in reply to CVille Dem

That's all their Bible Thumping is - A Charade!

They probably don't even know who Matthew is.

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August 29, 2009 5:28 PM   

"by their works ye shall know them..."

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August 29, 2009 5:37 PM   

also, Gallatians 5:22;
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness and self–control."

Would someone tell me how praying for harm to befall ANYONE fits this description, in any interpretation?

I suggest what this profane preacher has promulgated is the categorical antithesis, to every virtue listed here.

But still they call themselves Christians.

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August 29, 2009 7:00 PM    in reply to JEP07

If there is a God, I sure hope I make it to heaven because hell is undoubtably going to be filled with some people that would make a person
be in a constant state of ewwwggghhhh. Anderson proves ignorance is alive and well. This is a great reminder of why I am so grateful I outgrew the Baptist "faith." Idjits, yes they are. So sad. Another of their oft misused quotes, "None is so blind as he who will not see." My guess is that big old log is obstructing their vision.

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August 29, 2009 8:16 PM   

He prays that homosexuals will die as well. Jesus said that by their fruit you shall know them. I'd say the fruit is pretty rotten.

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August 29, 2009 10:00 PM    in reply to biglith

That pretty much sums it up.

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August 30, 2009 12:12 AM   

I'm not too sure he was visited. There is no indication on his website about a 'visit'. The sermon in question is still on the website uncut.

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August 30, 2009 10:05 AM   

"WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS with enough courage to talk this lunacy down??? "
rmichelson, that is the most meaningful question any of us has posed here. It is about time for the true patriots and the true Christians in the GOP to step in and lean hard against these extremists who have usurped their party's power.

I am from Kansas, and was raised in Iowa in a very politically involved Republican family, but I turned Democrat after ______ (fill in the blank) killed Bobby (I was 16 at the time, and canvassed neighborhoods for local Dems at that tender age). I reveal this to assure everyone, I DO know lots of Republicans, and while I don't defend them often, in this matter, I will say that there are many good hearted, intelligent (though stubbornly attached to misguided ideology) Republicans who are ashamed of these miscreants in Elephant's clothing.

I dare say, if you take the wingnut Palinites out of the Republican mix, what remains is a pretty bright remnant, and they have are almost all Christians, or at least aspire to that label.

Seriously, when will the SINCERELY intelligent, patriotic and spiritually faithful Republicans put a stop to this madness?

I fear, it may be they are so outnumbered by the frantic fanatics whose hearts constantly devise mischief against our new President and the changes we all hope for, that they will never regain the helm of their floundering vessel.

The evidence of this is that they would have done something long ago to stifle the crazies in their party, if they had the power to do so.

The day is coming, and may actually be upon us, when the only course an honest soul can make is to abandon the sinking ship and swim for shore. Clearly, the "good" Republicans are subject to the worst members of their party.

Once again, let me re-quote that very meaningful sentence;
WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS with enough courage to talk this lunacy down???

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August 30, 2009 1:34 PM   

The worst thing about this 'pastor" and his 'church?
Jesus General has been following this lunatic for over a year.
This guys claim to fame is he has memorized the bible, no religious training. just started a church, tax exempt courtesy of you an me.
His wife has her own blog and she is as vicious and demented as he. The go after former church members and ridiculed a 12 year old girl.

The saddest part to me is they have a family and are teaching these kids and all the others in this"church" hate, raw vicious hate.

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August 31, 2009 8:22 AM   

The Secret Service works in mysterious ways.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/the-protection-racket/

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August 31, 2009 3:49 PM    in reply to furey

Now I'm REALLY afraid!

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