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Pastor Of Gun-Toter At Obama Event Prayed For Obama To Die
Justin Elliott | August 27, 2009, 3:14PM
Pastor Steven Anderson and Chris Broughton
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Chris Broughton, the man who brought an assault rifle and a handgun to the Obama event in Arizona last week, attended a fiery anti-Obama sermon the day before the event, in which Pastor Steven Anderson said he was going to "pray for Barack Obama to die and go to hell", Anderson confirmed to TPMmuckraker today.
Anderson also said Broughton had informed the pastor about his planned show of arms-bearing, but "he planned out the AR15 thing long before he heard that sermon," delivered Sunday August 16 at the fundamentalist Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ.
This is the second example of the gun-toters at the Arizona Obama event tied to the violent fringes of American life.
"I don't obey Barack Obama. And I'd like Barack Obama to melt like a snail tonight," Anderson said in the sermon.
The sermon, which was titled "Why I Hate Barack Obama" and also contained virulent anti-gay themes, continued:
... you're going to tell me that I'm supposed to pray for the socialist devil, murderer, infanticide, who wants to see young children and he wants to see babies killed through abortion and partial-birth abortion and all these different things -- you're gonna tell me I'm supposed to pray for God to give him a good lunch tomorrow while he's in Phoenix, Arizona?
Nope. I'm not gonna pray for his good. I'm going to pray that he dies and goes to hell.
Listen to the full sermon here:
Anderson told TPMmuckraker today that Broughton, who also has ties to right-wing groups, joined the church about three months ago.
The pastor said he encouraged Broughton to make sure he would not run afoul of any federal laws. And he insisted he was not encouraging acts of violence toward the president.
"No where in the sermon did I advocate vigilantism," Anderson said today, reached at the church. "It's a spiritual battle."
He continued: "I'd rather have him die of natural causes anyway, that way he's not some martyr. I'm praying for him to die just so he gets what he deserves."
The connection between Broughton and Anderson was first pointed out by the Phoenix New Times. During an appearance on the radio show of noted conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, Broughton mentioned that Anderson was his pastor.
On his blog, Anderson posted a video of Broughton at the Obama event under the headline "Brother Chris carries an AR to Obama event 'because he can'".
The post contains only this text: "Good job, Chris!"
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Obama1st
August 27, 2009 3:18 PM
Hope the secret service pegs his ass and monitors him closely. An arrest would do him and country well!
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Docb
August 27, 2009 4:17 PM in reply to Obama1st
Then we have Rep Jenkins, Kansas, saying the repubs are looking for a 'great white hope'!
We have got to shut these crazies down when they represent a constitiuentcy or group! This is insane....
Christian --I think not!...You reap what you sow--Pastor!
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:27 PM in reply to Obama1st
Careful, he might enjoy having his ass pegged.
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JohnW1141
August 27, 2009 3:30 PM
Pastor Steve Anderson is a "real American" not like that "America hating" Pastor Jeremiah Wright.
Praise Je'-sus, praise His name!
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Official A
August 27, 2009 3:37 PM
The vultures come home to roost.
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mans_best_friend
August 27, 2009 3:37 PM
So are we going to see endless video loops of this guy the way we did Jeremiah Wright? I'm not holding my breath.
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CN
August 27, 2009 4:15 PM in reply to mans_best_friend
Let's take the comparison further. Obama was a member of Wright's congregation, so it was fair to assume that Obama shared Wright's views -- that's what Fox News told us, right?) So it must be fair to assume that Broughton, as a member of Anderson's congregation, shares Anderson's views. So we have a guy who wants Obama to die bringing an assault rifle to a Obama event. Lovely.
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ohyeathatsright
August 27, 2009 5:20 PM in reply to CN
Still nothing on any of the MSM sites.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 5:25 PM in reply to ohyeathatsright
Not holding my breath...
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dickday
August 27, 2009 5:40 PM in reply to CN
That is right. No confusion as far as I am concerned.
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IndyEllen
August 27, 2009 5:51 PM in reply to CN
Even if the MSM did cover this story, I suspect they'd gleefully point out that President Obama attended Wright's church for 20 years whereas Broughton had been a member of Anderson's church for a mere three months -- not enough time to become tainted.
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JohnW1141
August 27, 2009 6:28 PM in reply to CN
CN,
excellent post.
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Clavis
August 27, 2009 3:37 PM
Anderson makes a good point. Just because you explicitly hope and pray for someone's death, and constantly assure your flock that he is an agent of evil that God would want dead, doesn't mean you are in any way responsible if and when a member of your flock takes your words to heart.
Of course, this principle doesn't apply when we speak of such things as gay marriage, because the psychological and cultural effect of two married gay people living down the street from me would be to unhinge me and turn me into a raving, dangerous lunatic.
So remember: when a right-winger attempts to spread a message of hatred, that's okay, because he's not actually hurting anyone, and anyone who does something wrong because they're influenced by him (or claim to be influenced by him) is responsible for their own actions. But when two gay people get married, that's bad, because although they're not actually hurting anyone, anyone who does something wrong because they're influenced by them (or claim to be influenced by them) is a helpless victim of gay sin and the homosexual agenda. Got it?
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Why oh why
August 27, 2009 3:43 PM
"he'd actually prefer Obama to die in some way other than assassination."
See, we can find common ground: we don't want Obama to get killed by a lunatic either. That sounds like bipartisanship to me!
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:31 PM in reply to Why oh why
Like King Henry II saying "who will rid me of this troublesome priest" and a few days later, the priest is murdered.
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indianadave
August 27, 2009 3:45 PM
This moron should be in a padded room.
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tinmanic
August 27, 2009 3:45 PM
This man is not a Christian.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:34 PM in reply to tinmanic
nor human...
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mikedrevguy
August 27, 2009 11:25 PM in reply to tinmanic
and someone should check into his tax exempt status: hit him where it will really hurt.
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Heretic
August 28, 2009 4:08 AM in reply to tinmanic
Quintessentially christian if you ask me.
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fuman
August 27, 2009 3:50 PM
Unfortunately for him, Charlie Crist had preempted the ill willed prayer with a prayer for prosperity, well in advance.
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biglith
August 27, 2009 3:50 PM
This guy is so filled with self-hatred and that he is projecting it on Obama to relieve his inner conflict. My intuition tells me he is a closeted homosexual in complete denial. Let's hope he gets some help but I'm not holding my breath.
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lyleleander
August 27, 2009 5:17 PM in reply to biglith
Look at the way he lets the upper part of his dress shirt hang loose and un-bottoned like that, with the tie sagging down off his neck a bit.
LIBERAL!!! LIBERAL!!! He's a LIBERAL, I say!!!
Prove he ISN'T!!!!
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biglith
August 27, 2009 6:26 PM in reply to lyleleander
F... you!
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truthspeaker
August 28, 2009 1:54 PM in reply to lyleleander
cnn & faux is your native land. I suggest you go there. Jah walks
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truthspeaker
August 28, 2009 2:00 PM in reply to lyleleander
Perhaps you should spell your name correctly, how about 'lieland'. I am pretty sure you are a native of CNN and faux news. I suggest yoou go back there. Jah walks
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OrionPax
August 27, 2009 3:55 PM
Hmm... then what about this:
1 Timothy 2:1-2 (King James Version)
1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
Never mind this:
Romans 13 (New International Version)
1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
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slb
August 27, 2009 4:09 PM in reply to OrionPax
Hmmmm, this leads to an interesting question: If Bush's election proved that he was God's annointed, as any number of these holy rollers said at the time, then isn't Obama's election proof that he is also God's annointed? And in that case, what does it mean when you say that you hate God's annointed and want to see him die? Doesn't that put you with the crowd shouting "Crucify him!"?
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:25 PM in reply to slb
Your first mistake was to try extrapolate GOP Logic and apply it evenly.
When something happens that you like and support, its God's will.
When something happens that you don't like or support, than clearly its God testing you, or Satan tempting you.
This person is no better that the Imams and Mullahs preaching hate by distorting the teachings of religion.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 6:17 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Well done!
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OrionPax
August 27, 2009 4:28 PM in reply to slb
interesting question indeed.
In fact Jesus even prayed for those politicians who were in the process of crucifying him.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 27, 2009 4:37 PM in reply to OrionPax
Sure, that's what your pinkocommie liberal Bible says, but in the real Bible that the Real Christians use down at Crazyland Baptist Church, it clearly says that its A-OK for a "pastor" to uses the word "Hate" in the title of his sermon and pray for anyone to die and burn in hell.
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thomas1
August 27, 2009 5:42 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
3WJU - What Weapon Would Jesus Use
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:50 PM in reply to thomas1
LOVE!
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Minne sconsin
August 27, 2009 5:56 PM in reply to thomas1
Kindness and forgiveness.
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HawkeyeD
August 27, 2009 4:38 PM in reply to OrionPax
Can I get a witness?
People are leaving churches, because men like this are making up their own gospel of hate and bigotry.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 5:18 PM in reply to HawkeyeD
When the current gospel of hate and bigotry just isn't enough.
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IndyEllen
August 27, 2009 5:57 PM in reply to HawkeyeD
The ones who are fed up and still have a moral backbone are leaving. But it sure makes you cringe to think about the ones who choose to stay.
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JNagarya
August 27, 2009 8:28 PM in reply to OrionPax
He don't have monarchy, or divine right, in this country. (Exactly as we have no ""King of Rock and Roll," and no, "King of Pop".)
It's no wonder the first Georgia constitution secured clergy the right to preach -- so long as not seditious against the state, it being seditious being triable as treason.
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Dave Bowman
August 27, 2009 3:55 PM
There's your Great White Hope.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:27 PM in reply to Dave Bowman
Zing...
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DA in LA
August 27, 2009 3:58 PM
The amusing thing to me about this entire episode is how Chris Broughton was clearly chosen to go to the protest with his guns because of his skin color. In the video he posted of his actions before the protest, he is seen with several white people preparing for his big moment. He was obviously chosen out of the group and just happened to be the one black guy.
Obvious and rather pathetic.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:37 PM in reply to DA in LA
You meant Micheal Steele didn't you?
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UTMark
August 27, 2009 3:58 PM
I am so sick of these pathetic "real Americans". Maybe I'll start praying for him the same way he's praying for President Obama. I can see why he'd be filled with self-hatred, and it's easy to see why others might the same way about him.
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jpmlaw
August 27, 2009 4:05 PM
I hope the IRS revokes the tax exempt status of this so-called church.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 4:23 PM in reply to jpmlaw
Amen!
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 5:09 PM in reply to jpmlaw
That's fine, whatever, but first lock him up!!!
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:23 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Defrock! Then lock!
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Kuyleh
August 27, 2009 6:51 PM in reply to jpmlaw
Agreed.
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slb
August 27, 2009 4:05 PM
What on earth is wrong with these people??? They're starting to sound like Charles Manson.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 27, 2009 4:48 PM in reply to slb
No, not Manson. They're starting to sound like the 9/11 hijackers and the clerics who incited them.
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twoviragos
August 27, 2009 5:24 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
I'll take Irony for $600, Alex ;).
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 5:25 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Bingo...
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artappraiser
August 27, 2009 5:56 PM in reply to slb
While you're wondering that, I wonder what on earth is wrong with sites like TPM constantly covering "these people," helping to give them the "buzz" they need to have much of an effect on the zeitgeist at all. There's always been crazy sermons, helping them get a large national audience is a whole nother thing. What Pat Robertson couldn't accomplish with his Christian Broadcasting Network, the liberal blogosphere provides.
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:36 PM in reply to artappraiser
But we're appalled by it, so it's not good publicity. Even the trolls are silent about this guy. Fox Propaganda would be praising this guy, if they cover the story at all.
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artappraiser
August 27, 2009 8:54 PM in reply to jeffgee
You obviously don't know much about P.R. "All publicity is good publicity," especially when no one has ever heard of you or if few subscribe to your product or idea. "Creating a buzz" most often welcomes vehement counter reaction. I.E., the more you bitch about a newbie Rush Limbaugh, the more tune in to see what they are all about. Nothing says failure like everyone ignoring you.
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artappraiser
August 27, 2009 9:09 PM in reply to artappraiser
p.s. On second thought, you've convinced me that all the attention is warranted. A relative works at a small branch of a bank in an LA suburb. He complained to me the other day that some Lyndon La Rouche kooks have set up a table outside the bank, have pictures of Obama as Hitler, and start nasty arguments with bypassers all the time, and then the people complain to them they have to pass that gauntlet. I think blogs and media should send reporters there pronto to cover it, because nothing could be of more import than everyone knowing about it, and I bet that the publicity would quiet the situation down right quick--NOT!
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vader52199
August 28, 2009 9:39 AM in reply to artappraiser
Sounds a little 1984ish to me. If it's news, it should be covered. Information wants to be free.
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battleship_potemkin
August 28, 2009 10:48 AM in reply to artappraiser
To these people silence means approval.
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 4:08 PM
We would never tolerate this on the part of a Muslim cleric.
This guy is the same. Put him in jail where he belongs. And it goes without saying that he is an utter disgrace to Christianity.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 27, 2009 4:46 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Beat me to that point. We and the Brits have been imprisoning and deporting clerics for saying stuff just like this in houses of worship. Guess the critical difference is whether you say it in a house of worship with a steeple as opposed to one with a minarets.
Several months ago, I pointed out that the lunatic fringe of Christianity is as capable of attracting and denerating murderous terrorist fanatics as any other religion. All it takes is for its members to feel sufficiently alienated from the political process.
However, I said it in the context of being afraid that would be a likely consequence if they were frozen out of the Republican Party. I wasn't anticipating that the mere fact of not being in power due to having lost an election in a democracy would be sufficiently radicalizing to make them this crazy.
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 5:04 PM in reply to The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
Well unfortunately you've been proved right.
Reminds me of the Neil Young line, "Thinking about what a friend had said, I was hoping it was lie."
Gets-what-he-deserves is as you say: Anybody except these degenerates who wins an election deserves to die for it. That's their idea of Democracy. This is FBI material, no doubt.
I posted to his blog and told him he's a traitor and the above in substance. He won't approve the comment I'm sure but at least the vermin might read it.
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ADad
August 27, 2009 4:09 PM
So much for hating the sin but not the sinner. Odd that "Pastor" Chris' default mode is violence, and not just praying for Obama to change his mind or heart. Seems like a lack of faith on his part. He should bear in mind that "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap", as well as "sow the wind, reap the whirlwind".
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:45 PM in reply to ADad
I'm more of a Sir Isaac Newton man myself...
"For every action, there is an equal and opposite re-action"
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ADad
August 27, 2009 5:08 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Wouldn't bother me at all if the re-action to Pastor Chris' statements tore him a new hole in his space-time continuum.
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IndyEllen
August 27, 2009 6:02 PM in reply to ADad
Karma - the Newtonian law of eastern philosophy.
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twoviragos
August 27, 2009 4:11 PM
Either Anderson doesn't understand Christian philosophy or I don't.
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Aunt Sam
August 27, 2009 4:18 PM in reply to twoviragos
No doubt it's the latter. The only good news here is that this is being published and that Anderson is now, hopefully, a 'person of interest' to at least the Secret Service, et al.
I will pray for him, because that is the Christian tenet.
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Armageddon T. Thunderbird
August 27, 2009 6:41 PM in reply to Aunt Sam
Here is your prayer...Dear God - save me from Christians.
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Michael Powe
August 27, 2009 4:24 PM
It is embarrassing to be associated by name of faith to such an individual and group. To be "Christian" by faith is to follow in the path of Jesus Christ, to bear His burdens and pain as He bore them, to accept His grace. Clearly, the Reverend and his associates do not conceive of themselves in this manner. I am not one to assume that I know the judgement of God nor how his vision of the world will be completed. I do believe you will find in the letters of Paul some stern admonitions against using His church for profane purposes. Reverent Anderson and his charges may have to answer for their profanity.
I admit that when I consider the parable of the vineyard workers, and how any may be accepted if they but believe, I'm irked. This Reverend might on his deathbed experience true repentance, be forgiven and taken up. That offends my human sense of "fair play." He ought at least do some purgatory first.
Thanks.
mp
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Armageddon T. Thunderbird
August 27, 2009 6:44 PM in reply to Michael Powe
God does not judge. That is your projection of your weakness on to Him. And if you read Paul - better learn what he wrote versus what was written by others in his name. Otherwise you will be more confused that you seem to be right now.
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aikbay
August 27, 2009 4:24 PM
I went to the church website. Way out fundy nutcase church. It's not okay to have a male OB/gynecologist and it's not okay to use any birth control.
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UTMark
August 27, 2009 4:30 PM in reply to aikbay
Damn it! These are the people most in need of birth control!
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:33 PM in reply to UTMark
There's only one solution! Don't let them marry!
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thomas1
August 27, 2009 5:49 PM in reply to TheraP
They can marry as much as they want, don't let them breed.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:51 PM in reply to thomas1
But birth control is against their faith....
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The Old Grouch
August 27, 2009 4:28 PM
Paging Homeland Security to the red courtesy telephone...Homeland Security to the red courtesy telephone, please.
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 7:00 PM in reply to The Old Grouch
Exactually to quote Lewis CarrolL, and I really don't wish to hear how they think it's not so bad in context but will continue to monitor from time to time, blah-blah.
I entreat you heartily to show indulgence as to my crude nature, but
ARREST THIS TREASONOUS FUCK NOW!!
Your allegiant servitor,
O.T.
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Sasha
August 28, 2009 8:05 AM in reply to Overreach THIS!
Exactly. As far as I am concerned they can pray for frogs to fly. But the IRS is very clear that churches who receive tax exemptions cannot be a certain level of political. And this one fails. Hitting them in their pocketbook would hurt more than a secret service investigation.
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kenga
August 28, 2009 8:54 AM in reply to Sasha
I agree, just want to point out - that may be exactly what they want, so they can create a violent confrontation.
I'd speculate it could be they'd like to become a rallying cry like Waco.
Ideally, in the process of investigating, authorities would find evidence of crimes for which they could detain the pastor, and perhaps open the eyes of some of his flock to his delusions.
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mgardener
August 27, 2009 4:28 PM
I think this is a clear violation of church and state.
Did he say the same about Bush when he had all those people put to death as Gov?
I don't think so.
But I as a tax payer, should not have to fork over more money because they get a tax exemption.
All these so called churches should be made to obey the law and any that are using their church for political purposes should lose the tax exemption.
That is the least we can do for our brothers.
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Cal Gal
August 27, 2009 4:28 PM
What a Christian! not
WWJH? Love thy neighbor as thyself, unless he's Barack Obama?
If he's affiliated with the REAL Baptist Church, they should yank his ticket pronto.
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TBender
August 27, 2009 5:36 PM in reply to Cal Gal
Sounds like he's related to the Real Baptists as much as Westboro is.
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LarsThorwald
August 27, 2009 4:29 PM
Excuse me, but what the fuck is wrong with people?
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:41 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Religion.
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 5:06 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
That's not all of it! It's a heady ingredient, but they hate Obama for other reasons and religion is the license they think they have to organize around that hatred.
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
August 27, 2009 5:35 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
What was wrong with the 9/11 hijackers, or the Taliban, or the Hindu extremists who killed Ghandi? What's wrong with the guy who shot Rabin and are threatening civil war if they try to uproot them from the land that "God" gave them in 1967?
Whether your religious beliefs lead you to take it literally or metaphorically, evil comes in three, and only three, forms: in league with the devil, posessed by the devil and deceived by the devil. Everything else is just human scale banal badness. These guys are the latter.
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lousgirl84
August 27, 2009 7:10 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
These racists can't stand that a black guy is president and a brilliant one at that. They have a view of black people that is less than the lowest of low and Obama just blows that out of their reality.
Everytime a liberal gets in office, the crazies rear their ugly heads.
I hope the FBI does know about this guy.
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DB55
August 27, 2009 4:30 PM
According to his church's website: "Pastor Anderson holds no college degree but has well over 100 chapters of the Bible committed to memory, including almost half of the New Testament."
In other words, an American Christian Taliban.
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Agateman
August 27, 2009 4:40 PM in reply to DB55
OK, let's get the gloves off. CBS, NBC, ABC, let's see what kind of guts you guys got and put this story in the network news. You sure as hell put the Rev.Wright story on night after night, let's see what you do with this one.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:55 PM in reply to Agateman
yeah right...
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 4:57 PM in reply to _jonny_5_
Thats not how they treat white Pastors
Right pator Hagee?
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biglith
August 27, 2009 7:55 PM in reply to DB55
Maybe the pastor could write the entire New Testament in blood the way Saddam supposedly did with the Koran. That would impress the freaks who follow this whack.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 4:39 PM
Did this guy get an actual theology degree? You have to wonder!
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:10 PM in reply to TheraP
From the website about the pastor:
He has, however, memorized over 100 chapters of the bible. Would that he would put into practice things like:
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twoviragos
August 27, 2009 5:19 PM in reply to TheraP
How about this little verse: Jesus wept.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:24 PM in reply to twoviragos
I think we need to update it a bit:
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Matt Jones
August 27, 2009 5:25 PM in reply to TheraP
He only memorized the violent parts and the dirty parts - surely you don't expect him to understand the whole thing! :)
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:31 PM in reply to Matt Jones
At this point we have to wonder if he graduated from high school!
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:43 PM in reply to Matt Jones
Does he know the 600+ rules in Leviticus? He's probably most familiar with the line about men laying with other men but how about some animal sacrifice? When his wife has her period, does he sleep in a different bed and sit only on chairs his wife doesn't use?
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Now THAT'S living biblically.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 5:27 PM in reply to TheraP
The website has one whole section to click on called: "How to Memorize Large Sections of the Bible." But nothing about putting sections of the bible into practice!
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lyleleander
August 27, 2009 5:33 PM in reply to TheraP
This guy should be designing teaching programs for No Child Left Behind!
Here kids, see this book? Memorize it.
Well, what about being able to tell you what it means?
Pfft... why would you need to actually bother to know what it means? Just memorize it, take the test that asks you to recite what you've memorized in the form of a pencil to paper, and march off to get your degree.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 6:11 PM in reply to lyleleander
LOL! :-)
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IndyEllen
August 27, 2009 6:11 PM in reply to TheraP
You don't have to have a degree to be a dangerous nut. Wasn't it just a couple of decades ago when there were state-run mental institutions to care for guys like these? Now they roam society freely trying to convince desperate people that they are divinely connected to the Big Guy.
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TheraP
August 27, 2009 6:23 PM in reply to IndyEllen
Indeed, long ago as a psych intern, I sat in on a group therapy session where two patients both claimed to be JC (Jesus Christ). Said the one to the other: You can't be JC! I'm JC!
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msirt
August 28, 2009 4:11 AM in reply to TheraP
He didn't memorize that part
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tiowally
August 27, 2009 5:13 PM in reply to TheraP
Does it matter?
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serafinapekkala
August 27, 2009 4:43 PM
"Melt like a snail"? Is that a thing?
No seriously, is that some kind of arcane Revelations reference? Is it, like, a demonic snail?
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SqueakyRat
August 27, 2009 5:26 PM in reply to serafinapekkala
Snails (and slugs) are said to melt if you put salt on them. Never tried it myself.
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arias
August 27, 2009 6:14 PM in reply to SqueakyRat
I have. They curl up in a ball, and if you try to poke it with a stick the skin yields instantly and the thing implodes on itself in a ball of mush.
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Ralph_Desmond
August 27, 2009 4:48 PM
WTF !!! Is somebody writing this down? This rediculous absurdity is really getting rediculously absurd.
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mc mark
August 27, 2009 4:51 PM
Have the proper athorities been alerted to this Freakazoid?
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psyclone
August 27, 2009 4:52 PM
And once again, the American Taliban chimes in. Difference is, our Taliban gets invited to appear on the cable news networks! (To provide 'balance', donchaknow)
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mc mark
August 27, 2009 4:52 PM
that's authorities, as in the FBI
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Ralph_Desmond
August 27, 2009 4:52 PM
OK, maybe the screaming lady at the town hall was right - we should give her back her america. It was wrong of us to give Obama the right to vote ... I mean become president.
Aparently their CRAZY is larger than our logic, rationality, and at-least-half-way-true attempts at honest, caring politics.
Aparently Rove/Limbaugh/Beck are really smart and good at what they do because there is such an immense, mobilized psuedo-informed mob of freakin' idiots willing to believe ANY CRAZY SHIT that gives them justification to hate the black librul president.
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psyclone
August 27, 2009 4:56 PM
I wonder if the 'socialist devil' this guy hates so much also includes GWB - you know, the guy who enacted Medicare Part D, and started the bank bailouts?
These nutjobs are so predictable in their opinions. Just think of the stupidest and most illogical things possible, and you've pretty much nailed their worldview.
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_jonny_5_
August 27, 2009 5:04 PM in reply to psyclone
This allows the hate and vitriol coming from the likes of Palin and her ilk to sound reasoned by comparison.
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JC_FLORES
August 27, 2009 4:56 PM
Lemme get this straight...this guy, the "pastor", admittedly knew that Broughton was bringing a gun to a Presidential event for quite some time and STILL gives a "sermon" in which he prays for the death of the President? Why is he still out walking around? Is this not the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater? If not, what is?
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Overreach THIS!
August 27, 2009 5:08 PM in reply to JC_FLORES
Yes it is. And "Arrest this fuck now!" is my kind recommendation.
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JC_FLORES
August 27, 2009 5:13 PM in reply to Overreach THIS!
I agree.
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LJG
August 27, 2009 5:27 PM
I listened to most of this sermon. In essence it says God and Pastor Anderson hate Obama, wanting him to die and go to hell, because Obama is a mass murderer of innocent babies. Interestingly, there is not a single passage in the entire Bible that says abortion is a sin. The only passage that even comes close is Exodus 21:22-25, which says if a man strikes a pregnant woman, causing her to have a miscarriage, he must pay her husband a fine.
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ejg3
August 27, 2009 5:34 PM
It sounds like Anderson should be in pink undies and jump suit in Sheriff Joe's Maricopa County Jail. His words are the flip side to Henry the II's remarks which led to the murder in Canterbury Cathedral of St. Thomas a Becket by four of his knights.
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Snig
August 27, 2009 5:46 PM
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -
-- Mahatma Gandhi
This is who Ghandi was talking about. I feel bad for the vast majority of Chirstians who cringe at this man.
Also, the "worshipper" joined his "church" three months ago. So it's not like he can say that he knew the guy well enough that he wouldn't be taking shots at the president.
I think if this had happened with Bush in office, these bozos would have been extradited to a torturing country days ago.
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locutus13
August 27, 2009 5:55 PM
Praise JESUS and pass the ammunition!
Not very Christian like.
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Peter Principle
August 27, 2009 6:09 PM
Not very Christian like
Since I'm not a Christian, I can't really fault the guy for that. And I'd be a hypocrite if I faulted him for wanting Obama dead, since I felt (and still feel) the same way about George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
The only difference, I guess, is that I'm not the one pretending to be a believer in the Prince of Peace.
Oh yeah, plus the fact that Anderson wants Obama dead for trying to save the economy and ensure adequate health care for all Americans, while I want Bush and Cheney dead for committing multiple war crimes.
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lousgirl84
August 27, 2009 7:04 PM in reply to Peter Principle
I can relate my friend = I can relate
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wood
August 27, 2009 6:10 PM
Here is the pastor expressing his outrage at a Phoenix police office for carrying an AR at Sky Harbor Airport. So he feels it is less threatening for an anonymous weirdo to carry around an AR in public than a trained peace officer carrying one around an airport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cD2BCBaNaM&feature=channel
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:54 PM in reply to wood
Is Arizona the new Crazy Central?
Amazing. He accuses the cop of harassment because he says the cop is pointing the gun at people, which he doesn't do, then harasses a police officer for following the orders of his commanding officer, then acts outraged when the cop won't answer. "You work for me" bullshit. Has he ever been to Israel, where there are armed police and tanks ready to go at the airport.
This guy is dangerous. One of his disciples will act out violently.
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azpaull
August 27, 2009 7:50 PM in reply to jeffgee
Nahhhhh, it just seems that way. Especially with all the attention from McCain (he's still held more town halls in New Hampshire than here, btw) and Obama.
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Snig
August 27, 2009 10:44 PM in reply to wood
Good catch
An ocular mote vs. beam comparison seems apt here.
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jeffgee
August 27, 2009 6:26 PM
Rev. Anderson-
Jesus thinks you're a jerk
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JohnW1141
August 27, 2009 6:33 PM
Yea, verily I say unto you; Beware the capital gains tax for it is the spawn of the Beast!
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Kuyleh
August 27, 2009 6:49 PM
Stunning. And Christians wonder why everyone dislikes them and noone trusts them. Read your book of fairy tales, Mr. Preacher...Jesus said to LOVE and PRAY FOR your enemies. I'm Pagan and I know that much.
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Official A
August 27, 2009 8:00 PM
Idaho GOPer Rex Rammell "jokes" about hunting down Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/27/rex-rammell-idaho-goper-j_n_270751.html
I made a very small campaign contribution and got his merchant contact info,
Rex Rammell
rammellrex@msn.com
208-356-3690
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Official A
August 27, 2009 9:37 PM in reply to Official A
Shucks, I neglected to account for Rex's merchant transaction fee. Guess I'll need to make lots and lots of very small gifts.
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Official A
August 27, 2009 8:08 PM
Pastor Anderson can be reached at Info@faithfulwordbaptist.org.
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Berkana
August 27, 2009 8:47 PM
This bizarre pastor is known on YouTube for his crazy sermon about men standing up to pee:
"He who pisseth against the wall"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3o4nfiG7A
Unfortunately, he mis-interprets what that means. That is not a complement to a man's masculinity; that term is an insult (comparing them to dogs) referring to people who are about to be slaughtered or who are about to face God's wrath. Every instance of the use of the term is with men who are about to be killed.
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Walter Mitty
August 27, 2009 9:39 PM
Why would this guy get Rev. Wright coverage? He's not the pastor of a Presidential candidate. Rev. Wright never got any coverage until Obama ran for the Presidency.
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Dave Bowman
August 27, 2009 10:00 PM
Pastor Anderson also managed the neat trick of making the Border Patrol look sympathetic. He put up a YouTube video where he tells his side of the story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc
The funny part is that after watching the vid, you end up feeling like he deserved it.
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beentothemovies
August 27, 2009 10:38 PM
I knew an old carney named Pinky Pepper who got himself a tent and went into the ole preachin' hustle. Worked the country makin' "miracles" and perfecting the art of con to a science. Died a wealthy man. P.T. Barnum was right there really is a sucker born every minute. This Anderson con man will make some money off this and so will his gun totin' buddy. A little investigatory harassment is in order. come to jesus ,y'all !
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igotmyreasons
August 27, 2009 11:10 PM
Need his phone number? It's the emergency one:
http://www.andyfire.com/contact.html
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igotmyreasons
August 27, 2009 11:52 PM
Oh crank call too, if you like, please recco my last blog post (same content):
http://blip.fm/profile/IGotMyReasons/blip/20887608/SteveAnderson
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socraticgadfly
August 27, 2009 11:59 PM
Hey, Pastor Anderson, it's called Romans 8.
You know:
"Submit unto the governing authorities, because they have been ordained by God."
And, I'm an atheist who can quote that to you, as well as telling you Paul wrote that under Nero Caesar, not under the democratically elected President Barack Obama.
And, no, he didn’t pray for Nero’s death while “submitting.”
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Middleclassvotingbloc
August 28, 2009 12:01 AM
I think they just bought more than 15 minutes of fame. I am sure both of these characters are being watched by law enforcement. They had better not make one false move. These are the type of crazy people who give the word "Christian" a bad connotation. Evil and human form.
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Middleclassvotingbloc
August 28, 2009 12:09 AM
It has been only recently I realized how many mothers and fathers must have been on drugs to produce the nuts we have in our midst. We were warned about the meth trailer trash, they are all around us and dangerous. I think the guy with the gun has been totally brain washed and is the most dangerous. His every step should be watched. The so call pastor is a coward, he will influence others to do his dirty work.
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Middleclassvotingbloc
August 28, 2009 12:12 AM
Chris Broughton is not one to be ignored--I believe that he is a very dangerous man and could be a danger to our public officials.
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Middleclassvotingbloc
August 28, 2009 12:32 AM
Paster Andersen seems to have gotten his just rewards, beaten and tasered by the police---what a country.
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sbobker
August 28, 2009 12:39 AM
You'all are too kind and peaceful. I would like to see both of these things die slow, screaming deaths. Maybe there was a time when I could make it so, but also that is behind me. I'm sorry.
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20090120
August 28, 2009 12:51 AM
I wondered what the anti-Christ's minions would look like...in Paster Andersen we have the answer.
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jpaese
August 28, 2009 3:12 AM
How in the heck do so many so-called Christian justify wishing for the death of another human being? And he's a pastor too? Do they even have the faintest understand of the teachings of the one they supposedly worship?
Reading IS Fundamental.
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wake up
August 28, 2009 5:59 AM
I don't mean to disparage other ethnicities, but it just seems that all the really top-notch crazy people in America are white.
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ohyeathatsright
August 28, 2009 10:17 AM in reply to wake up
Fortunately this is America and we have crazies of all ethnicities. The difference is the other crazies can't show it without being arrested.
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Redwood Rhiadra
August 28, 2009 2:25 PM in reply to wake up
Two words: Alan Keyes
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merlot
August 28, 2009 6:00 AM
the sermon is clearly political speech and thus violates IRS regulations for tax exempt status... time for the IRS to investigate these right wing wackos
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