Oh, that liberal MSNBC...
Last week, Richard Wolffe, the former Newsweek White House correspondent who's been a frequent commentator on MSNBC's Countdown, guest-hosted the show while Keith Olbermann was on vacation.
But as Glenn Greenwald pointed out over the weekend in a typically hard-hitting post, that's the same Richard Wolffe who earlier this year signed on as a senior strategist with the corporate communications firm Public Strategies, advising several of the firm's top clients from its Washington D.C. office.
Greenwald lays out the obvious problem with Wolffe's dual role -- which hasn't been disclosed to MSNBC viewers:
Having Richard Wolffe host an MSNBC program -- or serving as an almost daily "political analyst" -- is exactly tantamount to MSNBC's just turning over an hour every night to a corporate lobbyist. Wolffe's role in life is to advance the P.R. interests of the corporations that pay him, including corporations with substantial interests in virtually every political issue that MSNBC and Countdown cover.
It's worth noting that Wolffe's guest hosting gig on Countdown appears to have gone smoothly last week, without generating any high-profile examples of pro-corporate bias.
Still, as Greenwald points out, Wolffe's Public Strategies bio touts his MSNBC appearances, suggesting that the firm likely sees his enviable media megaphone as a key selling point to clients.
And it's clear that those clients have major stakes in a host of issues in the news. Public Strategies, which is led by former Bush White House communications guru Dan Bartlett, boasts that its clientele includes "some of the world's largest and best-known corporations," and that "[m]uch of its practice involves managing high-stakes campaigns for corporate clients, anticipating and responding to crises."
Wolffe himself said as much when he joined the firm. "Many of Public Strategies' projects are at the center of the national dialogue and will provide a challenging new arena for me," he crowed.
As a PR firm, Public Strategies doesn't have to disclose who its clients are. But here's one example: when the Bush administration got caught using "video news releases" supporting the Medicare drug bill, which were designed to mimic real news stories and often ended up on the air, the spotlight soon fell on the companies that acted as middlemen by distributing those fake news stories to network news feeds, mixed in with legitimate news. The leading practitioner of that racket, Medialink, hired Public Strategies in 2005 to help fight off any efforts by Congress to rein in such "news laundering."
As Greenwald also notes, Wolffe has already gone on the record questioning the idea that journalists should be expected not to act as corporate shills. Politico recently reported:
"The idea that journalists are somehow not engaged in corporate activities is not really in touch with what's going on. Every conversation with journalists is about business models and advertisers," [Wolffe] said, recalling that, on the day after the 2008 election, Newsweek sent him to Detroit to deliver a speech to advertisers. "You tell me where the line is between business and journalism," he said.
Neither Wolffe nor an MSNBC spokesman immediately responded to our requests for comment. We'll update if they do.
Late Update: MSNBC tells us they'll disclose Wolffe's P.R. ties in the future.


twoviragos
August 3, 2009 12:24 PM
Zach, I came on to read your article only to see an advertisement from Regence Blue Shield in the space next to the article. Does that make you beholden to one side of the health care argument because your organizations sells advertising for your site to an insurance company? And, seriously, is there anyone out there that thinks any media interest (including your own) is without bias? Pot, meet kettle.
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Jezreel
August 3, 2009 12:40 PM in reply to twoviragos
I totally agree. Besides, prior to the recent release of his book, Wolffe was a frequent guest on MSNBC. Never once have I heard him speak as a corporate shill.
IMHO,it is possible for one person to have different interests which at times may be in conflict with each other. What's important is whether he or she is able to compartmentalize conflicting interests while focusing on the subject at hand.
So far, Wolffe has done a great job at separating the role of political pundit from corporate shill.
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lousgirl84
August 3, 2009 1:35 PM in reply to Jezreel
I agree. I have never heard Wolff skew the message and if I were a betting person, I'd bet he's an Obama supporter.
And while I respect Glenn Greenwald, I find his ultra progressive stance a bit disingenuous at times and unrealistic most of the time.
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Dorn76
August 4, 2009 3:39 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Huh? Don't we need to know who these "analysts" are schilling for?
Not even close to the same thing as an ad on TPM.
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Icarus
August 3, 2009 12:31 PM
2Viragos: Your objections are off base. Zack is not employed by health care companies. He does not have a conflict of interest, which a lobbyist who moonlights as a "journalist" clearly has.
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twoviragos
August 3, 2009 12:58 PM in reply to Icarus
Zack is employed by the advertising money generated by this site. There is at least one advertiser that is a health care company. I'm not saying that it does provide I conflict, I'm saying that it could provide a conflict. That seems to be the point of the article; that it could provide a conflict. What I'm saying is there are no innocents here.
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kingfelix
August 3, 2009 9:24 PM in reply to twoviragos
Your position is fundamentally absurd.
There are still, clearly, degrees of beholdenness to corporate interests, so your - "There are no innocents" platitude is nothing more than that, a platitiude, issued under the sign of a jaded 'realism'.
This is not analagous to wrestling being fixed, as your stupendous 'insight' would have it.
Further, Einstein, the fact that a website carries advertising is not analagous to saying that that site is directly controlling content. However, it may be that TPM healthcare coverage is skewed (consciously or unconsciously) by its rosters of advertisers, or it may be that ads on TPM are part of some blind bulk buy process, and so it does not enter into editorial decisions at all. The point is, you being able to point at an ad and then state X, you can't infer from the fact that the ad was successfully perceived by yourself that your subsequent statement is then 'true' or, indeed, founded upon anything empirical. If you have actual evidence to support your assertion re: TPM's relation to its advertisers, then post it. Otherwise, you are simply making a groundless assertion for effect.
Restate your position, submit you are wrong, or quit the field.
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phelicity
August 3, 2009 12:35 PM
Listening to Wolffe, I've picked up nothing to indicate that he's a corporate shill. (Of course, the subliminal implant is another story. I may wake up tomorrow morning a Republican.)
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kingfelix
August 3, 2009 9:18 PM in reply to phelicity
And the things he does not speak about, what did you make of those?
Dear me, you are thick. Most of the job of PR is making sure things do not feature in the news to begin with.
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Dorn76
August 4, 2009 3:42 PM in reply to kingfelix
You're right, but you make your points with all the grace of the proverbial bull in a china shop. While Socrates (and I) laud your logic, Aristotle you ain't.
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miker
August 3, 2009 12:37 PM
ummmh, twovigaros:
the difference is that Wolffe is being paid to advocate a position, while trading on his reputation as a journalist, WITHOUT disclosing it!
If a high profile liberal journalist was now working for a lobbying firm, and was guest hosting O"Reilly, Limbaugh, etc, the GOP shouting would be heard around the world!
Zach isnt the owner of Josh's website, just an employee. What, MSNBC doesnt run advertising for health care or health insurance firms? Does that make Keith Olbermann biased? He doesnt own MSNBC....
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twoviragos
August 3, 2009 12:52 PM in reply to miker
So, how is it that you think Zack gets paid? I'm guessing it's from the sale of advertisements for this site. Are you saying that that does not run the risk of creating any conflicts at all?
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traitorjoe
August 3, 2009 12:43 PM
Miker, I must agree with you. I own a PR agency and while an employee here could appear as a panelist or an expert source for a program on MSNBC or another network, it would be disclosed that they are representatives of a PR firm. Wolffe's role in the PR firm was not disclosed to viewers yet it was advertised by his own agency that he was on MSNBC, giving the clear impression that his appearances could benefit paying clients. This is a clearly not kosher.
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twoviragos
August 3, 2009 12:55 PM in reply to traitorjoe
So, then you would be totally OK if one of your employees said something in public that pissed off one of the clients for which you provide PR? You wouldn't pull them aside and ask them to tone it down for the sake of keeping the client happy?
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traitorjoe
August 3, 2009 12:59 PM in reply to twoviragos
"So, then you would be totally OK if one of your employees said something in public that pissed off one of the clients for which you provide PR? You wouldn't pull them aside and ask them to tone it down for the sake of keeping the client happy?"
Twoviragos:
I would expect an employee or part-timer who represents a client of ours not to publicly bad mouth a client, especially on TV, yes. Was that the question?
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linus bern
August 3, 2009 1:45 PM in reply to twoviragos
2viragos,
You seem a bit confused, "So, then you would be totally OK if one of your employees said something in public that pissed off one of the clients for which you provide PR? You wouldn't pull them aside and ask them to tone it down for the sake of keeping the client happy?"
You started off claiming that a PR person could be a newsanchor without being influenced by the fact that they are paid to advocate for a company, but then with this comment you make it clear that you think that someone in such a position who made a comment against their PR bosses interests would be pulled aside and told to tone it down. Clearly you do understand that you can't really compartmentalize two competing interests.
To address your first point that Zach is no different than Richard Wolfe because the TPM site has ads for a health insurance company: You don't understand how the internet actually works. Regence Blue shield is not a sponser for TPM. There is no connection between them. TPM sells its advertising space to a company that specializes in selling ads on internet sites. That company then sells ad space to Regence Blue shield, and hundreds of other companies. Websites have very little control over what ads they have on their site. In fact, where you see the Regence Blue Shield ad, I see an ad for a tax-preparation software for Canadians.
I hope this clarifies your misunderstanding.
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twoviragos
August 3, 2009 2:29 PM in reply to linus bern
Thanks so much Linus. Gosh, where would I be without your snark to set me straight? What I am saying (if I could be so bold as to actually speak for myself) is that TPM is corporate sponsored media unless they do not take any money from corporate sponsors. Whether they get it from second hand sources or not, they are getting the money from corporations and those corporations have the ability to exert their influence, whether they do or not, whether they are on Richard Wolffe or TPM.
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linus bern
August 3, 2009 2:50 PM in reply to twoviragos
First, if you thought my first comment was snarky you must be new to the internet. I was simply setting straight your misunderstanding. Secondly I made no attempt to put words in your mouth, I quoted you verbatim and then pointed out that you were self-contradictory.
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twoviragos
August 3, 2009 3:20 PM in reply to linus bern
No Linus, you misconstrued my comments to your point of view. Now, why don't you go get your blanket and wait for the Great Pumpkin to come.
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linus bern
August 3, 2009 3:36 PM in reply to twoviragos
Wow, was that snark I felt?
Perhaps the problem is that you are not stating your point of view in a way that makes it clear what your meaning is.
Let me try and paraphrase what I think it is you are saying, and then you can correct where I have gone wrong.
You are saying that there is no difference between the conflict of interest of someone who gets the vast majority of their income directly as a corporate lobbyist and then moonlights as a journalist without disclosing their day job, and the conflict of interest of someone who writes for a website which receives ad revenue, even though the connection between the website and the companies whose ads run on the site is so tenuous as to be virtually non-existent.
If this is not the point you are making, what is your point.
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linus bern
August 3, 2009 3:56 PM in reply to linus bern
P.S. Feel free to respond with more top-quality insults if explaining yourself is too difficult.
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miker
August 3, 2009 1:41 PM in reply to traitorjoe
Thanks for the support Joe! Good comment about impartiality and objectivity.
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traitorjoe
August 3, 2009 3:21 PM in reply to miker
My pleasure Miker. You understand PR and the relationship to the media.
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Schnormal
August 3, 2009 12:44 PM
"It's worth noting that Wolffe's guest hosting gig on Countdown appears to have gone smoothly last week, without generating any high-profile examples of pro-corporate bias."
The problem is not so much what he talks about as what he doesn't talk about.
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kenmorsn
August 3, 2009 12:51 PM
There are two things at play here. First, have there been any actions which would indicate Wolfe has acted improperly. He seems to have comparmentalized quite well, and I can't point to anything.
The second is the appearance of conflict of interest. That certainly seems to exist. The question becomes how scrupulous should Wolfe, MSNBC and even we be in ridding ourselves of the suspicion of conflict of interest. I suspect some will say no foul, no penalty, while others will say we must maintain the highest standards to avoid even the question of impropriety.
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tbhull
August 3, 2009 12:58 PM in reply to kenmorsn
What you are saying is if there is enough lipstick on a whore the whore becomes a nun.
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traitorjoe
August 3, 2009 12:53 PM
You cannot work for a PR agency and represent corporate clients in the morning, and claim to be completely impartial and objective in the evening. I like Wolffe and think he did a good job, but he cannot host for MSNBC any more.
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tbhull
August 3, 2009 12:57 PM
The fact that Wolff is corporate whore is a problem, however, the much bigger problem is that MSNBC is owned by GE. GE is a whore to government largess.
MSNBC is a joke and Olbermann is a mere corporate ladder climber/yes man/ brown noser/sickening self righteous insincere uncle tom/opportunist of the highest order.
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lousgirl84
August 3, 2009 1:37 PM in reply to tbhull
Troll alert!!
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tbhull
August 4, 2009 9:00 PM in reply to lousgirl84
Is that all you have? Yes, you need more unless you get a paycheck from GE or the federal government and if so that is all you need it appears.
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Jesse Lava
August 3, 2009 1:05 PM
I could guess at some pro-corporate bias: the lack of any criticism of corporations that he represents. Now, obviously, the odds of any given corporation having news in any given week isn't necessarily high. But the issue is that bias can manifest by omission as much as by commission.
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CT Voter
August 3, 2009 1:09 PM
I guess I was, and continue to be, surprised by the fact that there are never any disclosures about Wolffe's day time job. He should disclose who he works for, at the very least.
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DanteBronte
August 3, 2009 1:14 PM
twovigaros. the difference between paid advertisements (whether advocacy ads or otherwise) and what wolffe is doing is the matter of DISCLOSURE. TPM discloses what ads they run by putting them in clearly demarcated areas and presenting them as paid ads. Wolffe didn't disclose who his clients are - and when he does he should disclose who ALL of the firm's clients are and not just the one's he works on directly.
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Icarus
August 3, 2009 1:21 PM
Any corporation seeking to insulate itself from on-air criticism by Richard Wolffe can buy a little protection -- by hiring his PR firm.
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traitorjoe
August 3, 2009 1:23 PM in reply to Icarus
Well said, Icarus, that's certainly the appearance he gives.
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cadfile
August 3, 2009 1:23 PM
I didn't know he had a new job as a PR hack.
That should be disclosed when he appears on TV.
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sunnysteve
August 3, 2009 1:28 PM
As I have commented before: I am so old that I can remember when we had an independent press.
Wolffe complains that we are "... not really in touch with what's going on...." and then says,
"You tell me where the line is between business and journalism".
Well, I am definitely in touch with what's going on, and it is a threat to my freedom. And the fact that he is so cavalier about the blur (to him) between business and journalism is just another testimony to the problem.
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admiralmpj
August 3, 2009 1:58 PM
Lemme get this straight.
Politico has this story...literally two months ago. No one pays attention:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23252.html
All the sudden Glenn "Holier Than Everyone" Greenwald brings it up Friday, TPM Community and the Blogosphere is all (pardon the pun) all "atwitter" over it.
I've known for two months Wolffe's been working for a PR Firm. And??!?!?
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sconset
August 3, 2009 2:26 PM
It was announced that Wolfe took the job a few months ago and even then I felt it was a conflict of interest. What I loathe is the lack of transparency that exists...this is not NBC/MSNBC's first time, look at all the "so-called "millitary experts" who were exposed in a 4 page spread in the Sunday New York Times.....not a word was said by NBC/MSNBC. These military "experts" are making millions with contracting fees with the Defense Dept.
What revolts me even more, is that Richard Wolfe would become the lowest type of whore for getting into "bed" with Dan Bartlett...why anyone would believe a word from Bartlett is beyond me. I wouldn't believe Bartlett if he told me water was wet.
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admiralmpj
August 3, 2009 3:01 PM in reply to sconset
I guess my question at this point is, do we have any proof that he's slanted his views on a topic at the behest of his PR Firm? (I remember reading, and for the life I me, I can't find the dang article, is he won't discuss his Firms clients on the air, nor does he trade on his relationships in the Obama Administration in his new job". So my bet is, if a Client has an issue that comes up, gets arrested, gets indicted, says something routinely stooopid, my bet is Richard Wolffe won't be on Countdown that week.
Is there something he's said while on Countdown that's been wrong or questionable, or head scratching? Has he done something or is this pre-crime? (Give the man his hat...bonus points if you can remember that little bit of Movie trivia.)
Then the question is, how long is MSNBC responsible for any notification? Every time he appears on screen? How long (the Producers will ask) until it becomes repetitive, and the audience goes "We get it, we get it."
What sort of title do you want to see emblazoned under his name? Odds are, anything short of "Corporate Schill" isn't going to satisfy.
Other than shaking your fist, and saying its wrong, what does addressing this issue look like in the real world? And I'm not asking out of snark, I'm asking you honestly, Sconset, and anyone else reading this. Richard Wolffe is not an idiot. He has valuable Political insight to offer. I'd like to see him on the show more often. What does it look like?
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PassePartout
August 3, 2009 3:09 PM
What I find interesting is the TIMING that this story breaks.
Think about it.
Just last week ,MSNBC and FOX declare a truce over Olbermann and OReilly.
Olbermann goes MIA, with corporate shill Wolffe,hosting for the entire week.
I predict K.O. will leave MSNBC in short order.
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PassePartout
August 3, 2009 3:12 PM
Incidentally ,I remember when Dana Milbank USED to be a regular on K.O.
Seems there was a contretemps there...and Milbank was history.
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PaulC37943
August 3, 2009 3:24 PM
Maybe I'm getting to be too jaded about the mainstream media, but I'm having a hard time getting worked up about this.
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scardina
August 3, 2009 3:59 PM
"Crowed" seems a pretty loaded word; especially ironic in a discussion of possible bias.
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stinky
August 3, 2009 4:29 PM
Wolffe is a weak performer so the good news for us is that - unless he's given testosterone shots and regular lessons on how to project his (invisible) masculinity - he has no future as a top man for MSNBC or any other audio/visual media outlet.
Howard Dean, on the other hand, does - with a little fine tuning and practice.
Wolffe is, at his best, a sidekick personality and a slight comic foil to an alpha-dog like Olbermann. It was painful to watch him (try to) take over his spot. I fully realized that his appearance was experimental, but really ... Wolffe has no potential to develop.
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PassePartout
August 3, 2009 5:51 PM in reply to stinky
A Wolffe in sheep's clothing?
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plembo
August 3, 2009 10:19 PM
This is really over the top. Should Wolffe's day job have been disclosed? Sure, and so should that of every other guest. It's important for us to know where people get their paychecks from. But I think it's a huge stretch from that to demonizing someone who has shown no evidence of being anything but a straight-shooter. Has everyone already forgotten how Wolffe called out Sarah Palin for the shallow, ignorant, bomb-thrower she is when she was at the height of her popularity (the infamous "fruit fly" controversy)? And I thought the far right were the only ones who shoot their wounded.
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