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Did Joe Wilson Lie About Having Been An Immigration Lawyer?


Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)

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Rep. Joe ("You Lie!") Wilson's now-legendary exclamation during President Obama's speech to Congress last week was itself essentially untrue, as we've documented.

But in trying to deflect charges of xenophobia in the wake of the outburst, it looks like the South Carolina congressman again played fast and loose with the facts.

At a Thursday press conference, Wilson was at pains to present himself as a friend of immigrants, declaring:

We need to be discussing issues specifically to help the American people. And that would not include illegal aliens, these are people-- I'm for immigration, legal immigration, I've been an immigration attorney. But people who have come to our country and violated laws, we should not be providing full health care services.

We weren't aware that Wilson had been an immigration attorney. So TPMmuckraker went looking for information about his work in the field. And we came up dry.

According to the bio on Wilson's website -- or what's left of the site, after it crashed last week amid the flurry of attention he received -- he's a real estate attorney by trade, who helped found the West Columbia law firm Kirkland, Wilson, Moore, Taylor & Thomas, before entering Congress in 2001. He also has served as a Staff Judge Advocate with the South Carolina Army National Guard.

One lawyer from Wilson's home county of Lexington -- who said he has known Wilson personally since 1985 and described himself as very familiar with Wilson's law practice -- declared flatly to TPMmuckraker: "Joe has never been anything but a real-estate attorney."

The lawyer allowed that it was theoretically possible that Wilson could have taken a few immigration cases on the side, or have worked in the field before 1985, but he described that possibility as remote. "You could call 150 lawyers down here and ask if Wilson did immigration law, they'd say: 'Hell no.'"

Another South Carolina lawyer who has practiced immigration law since 1988 said much the same thing. "I can't say that the group of us in South Carolina who practice immigration law think of him as having" worked in the field, said the lawyer. He, too, allowed that it's "conceivable" that Wilson worked in a niche of immigration law that didn't cross paths with his own. But, he said, "if he has practiced as an immigration attorney, I'm not aware of it."

And George Finnan, a South Carolina immigration lawyer who has worked in the field since 1993, likewise said he "doesn't know anything about" Wilson's alleged immigration work. Finnan stressed that the world of South Carolina immigration lawyers is relatively small and tight-knit, and judged it all but impossible that Wilson could have done substantial immigration work in the last 16 years.

Nor was the American Immigration Lawyers Association of any help in documenting Wilson's immigration work. A spokesman for the group told TPMmuckraker that no one named Joe Wilson from South Carolina is currently a registered member, and that no one shows up under that name in a member database that goes back "ten to fifteen years." We asked the spokesman to look up the name "Addison Wilson" -- the congressman's real first name -- and he pledged to do so, but didn't get back to us before the end of the day. We'll update if we hear back on that.

And Greg Siskind, a Tennessee immigration lawyer conducted his own investigation of the issue, with similar results. He reports:

I decided to call some of my friends in the Carolina immigration bar - including some from Columbia - and no one is aware of Congressman Wilson ever handling immigration matters.

Of course, it's certainly possible that Wilson took a few immigration cases early in his career, and the people we spoke to weren't aware of them. But even if that's the case, immigration law is a sophisticated, specialized field. Calling oneself an immigration attorney implies a body of technical knowledge and experience that Wilson, it appears, doesn't possess. So it would be misleading in the extreme for Wilson to claim to have "been an immigration attorney," as he did. Almost, dare we say it, a lie.

A spokesman for Rep. Wilson did not respond to TPMmuckraker's request for comment. No one answered a number listed for the firm of Wilson, Kirkland, Moore, Taylor, & Thomas.

Late Update: AILA spokesman George Tzamaras confirms to TPMmuckraker that, according to an extensive search of the group's membership database, no one from South Carolina by the name Joe Wilson or Addison Wilson has ever been a member.

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September 14, 2009 7:00 PM   

So he's an resume padder as well as a boor. Sur-prise, sur-prise!

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September 14, 2009 7:09 PM   

You lie! You lie!

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September 15, 2009 10:14 AM    in reply to bluesplashy

Cut him a break. He was a real estate attorney who specialized in finding homes for illegal immigrants.

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September 15, 2009 1:54 PM    in reply to Johann

He was a real estate lawyer who specialized in foreclosing on and evicting the rightful residents by smearing them as being "illegal immgrants".

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September 14, 2009 7:40 PM   

Let's face it. The GOP lies so often, they can't tell the difference between a lying talking point and the truth. It's all the same to them.

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September 15, 2009 2:34 PM    in reply to xargaw

I know, it's downright pathological with these guys/gals. If they're talking, they're lying!

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September 15, 2009 3:36 PM    in reply to trblmkr

And if they aren't talking, they're withholding truths.

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September 14, 2009 7:45 PM   

Perhaps he worked on a real estate deal for someone from, say, North Carolina, who then "immigrated" to South Carolina. Being as he's far from the sharpest tool in the shed, such a scenario is not too far-fetched. Besides, lying about anything and everything is okay ... if you're a Rethuglican.

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September 14, 2009 10:48 PM    in reply to tiowally

I think that this is the correct analysis. I grew up in Tenn and in my family we always thought that a person needed a passport to go to SC.

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September 15, 2009 1:28 AM    in reply to virginiacynic

**It probably wouldn't hurt to get your shots too.

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September 14, 2009 8:02 PM   

I can guarantee that Congressman Wilson's lies will not commandeer nearly as much of the MSM's attention and endless partisan discussions as that of Wilson's disrespectful, rude outburst directed at the President of the United States during the President's address to Congress, has generated....(its against House rules to address even just a Senator or a Congressman, in such a manner) Wilson should not only be reprimanded he should be formally censured

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September 14, 2009 8:17 PM    in reply to Chabuka

And let's not forget that the MSM always has to find equivalent wack lefties to compare to the tea party wackness. The only one mentioned is Code Pink but somehow there are always as many rude lefties as rude righties and that Democrats booing President Bush during an applause break is equivalent to one man blurting out "you lah" in a pause between the President's sentences.

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September 14, 2009 9:10 PM    in reply to jeffgee

Yeah this "horse-race" thing, whereby the MSM always wants to find equivilants, is quite tiresome. The idea that the Rethugs hatred and xenophobia is somehow matched by someone on the left is idiotic. Yes there are loonie lefties, but the difference is that they don't control the Democratic party, as do the wingnut righties in the Republican party.

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September 15, 2009 1:58 PM    in reply to jeffgee

That's why we don't hear much of the far-right lunatic fringe wrongdoing reported:

If the media can't find an equivalent on the "left," then they don't report on the far-right lunatic fringer because that wouldn't be "fair and balanced".

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September 14, 2009 9:07 PM   

You lie! is right. What's wrong, don't they realize people can and will check???

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September 14, 2009 9:31 PM   

Yes, the MSM with its false equivalencies is as useless to an informed electorate as teats on a boar pig. Actually, way less useless.

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September 14, 2009 11:33 PM   

Can you imagine that, the man that called our President a liar is a liar. I'll be a monkey's uncle.

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September 14, 2009 11:56 PM    in reply to Anasazi

"You Funny"!

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September 14, 2009 11:55 PM   

Another Joe. He refuses to "LIE" again before congress. He will not be held down!
Insulting the President is a first ammendment right, he knows, he was a constitutional lawyer.

Please send money,
Sincerely
Joe the rude/liar Wilson (not the plumber)

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September 15, 2009 12:32 AM   

Poor Joe - everyone should click on his ad that keeps running on this page. Every click is a few cents in TPM's pocket, courtesy of Joe!

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September 15, 2009 1:28 AM   

I LIE!

Send Cash!

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September 15, 2009 11:45 AM    in reply to Chico Zen

LOL!

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September 15, 2009 2:54 AM   

This revelation would be a whole lot more helpful if the rightwing boobs gave a damn about the truth. Truth is, they don't, and wouldn't even recognize it if it hit 'em with a ten foot pole. Whether the topic is the Iraq war and those pesky WMDs, or killing Granny to insure illegals, or Obama's birth certificate, or the age of the universe and whether little children frolicked with baby dinos, or Joe Wilson's resume on behalf of immigrants, they don't care, will not ever care, won't even listen. They're stupid morons and damned proud of it.

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September 15, 2009 8:53 AM    in reply to Apphouse50

So true!

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September 15, 2009 7:47 AM   

He's probably not a real plumber either.

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September 15, 2009 9:07 AM   

When can you tell a Republican is lying?

When you see him get out of bed in the morning.

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September 15, 2009 1:59 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

Shit, they lie in their dreams!

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September 15, 2009 9:37 AM   

Where's the surprise in this? Didn't Michael Steele earlier this year warn everyone not to trust anything the GOP says?

Recent example: Michael "I Lie" Duvall

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September 15, 2009 9:57 AM   

Footloose and fancy free with the facts!!! Just like that Scarah Bailin out on Alaska....

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September 15, 2009 10:06 AM   

In the spirt of the current iteration of the American Right Wing, there's another possibility explaining Joe's claims to having been an immigration attorney. What with Death Panels, Death Taxes, and Obama as Socialist, Fascist, etc., what Joe meant was he spent time on the Minuteman Project down on the Arizona border with Mexico.

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September 15, 2009 10:15 AM    in reply to govewood

Or maybe as a real estate attorney he created a few "red-lined" districts...

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September 15, 2009 2:02 PM    in reply to DanF

Which brings us back to the fact that he's all along been a patriot: he was making sure "Commies" remained homeless.

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September 15, 2009 11:29 AM   

Real Estate, Immigration, it is all the same! LOL, Wilson a liar and a loon!

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September 15, 2009 1:08 PM   

Sounds like another apology is in order. This one for lying on national television. We should call him "Lyin' Joe" Wilson from now on. Or maybe "You, lyin' Joe" Wilson. But if you move the comma it becomes an assertion. "You lyin', Joe Wilson." As he is disposed towards untruth.

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September 15, 2009 1:14 PM   

Say..it ain't so Joe,...ah well maybe say it is so Joe. Reminds me of a guy I worked with in computer sales many many years ago. Nice,personable, funny salesman. But for the life of him, he could not tell the truth on even mundane "how's the weather" conversations. He lined up an important sales call once with the principals of a good size accounting firm in NYC but didn't even show up (another story). Called the firm about 30 minutes into the scheduled meeting and said his new baby daughter was in a serious accident and he was in the emergency room at her side! He did this at his desk as I sat there and listened. Never forgot it. Wilson brought back that memory.

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September 16, 2009 7:21 PM   

Most of the real estate folks I know here in Southern California live most of the time "high on the hog", in Mexican beach towns. Probably the same for South Carolina. Probably as far as "immigration lawyer" is concerned, it's probably our sense of direction that is off.

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