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Bill Sparkman, the Census worker found dead in Kentucky recently was not found hanging from a tree, according to an FBI spokesman. Rather, David Beyer told TPMmuckraker, Sparkman's feet were planted on the ground. A rope around Sparkman's neck was attached to a tree.

An anonymously sourced AP report said that Sparkman was hanging from a tree, and that he had the word "Fed" scrawled on his chest.

Beyer, a spokesman with the FBI's Louisville, Kentucky filed office, declined to comment on the accuracy of the "Fed" detail. But he was at pains to ratchet back speculation that Sparkman was killed in an act of anti-government sentiment, saying that investigators had not yet determined even whether the death was a homicide.

Previous reporting "left the impression that [Sparkman] was found strung up in a tree because he was a federal employee," Beyer said. "At this juncture that's not accurate." Beyer added that Sparkman died of asphyxiation.

Earlier this afternoon, a state police spokesman told Greg Sargent at the Plum Line that the AP report contained errors, and that Sparkman was "in contact with the ground" when he was found.

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September 24, 2009 6:14 PM   

**Strange disclaimer. Wait for the report disputing the notion that an anti-government type was involved because the word scrawled on his chest had too many letters and was spelled correctly.

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September 24, 2009 9:44 PM    in reply to greylox

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Not only is it a weird and nitpicky disclaimer, it completely fails to achieve what is the only logical purpose - to get people to quit paying attention to this bizarre case the FBI seems determined to botch.

"He wasn't technically hanging, his feet were touching the ground."

Oh great, so he's alive then? What's that? No. Oh. So what the hell happened.

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September 25, 2009 9:58 AM    in reply to Stiggs

The FBI don't want people to jump to conclusions because there is a very real possibility that the circumstances were deliberately contrived to lay a false trail.

But that does not change the fact that the Republican party has been silent as their supporters have been using increasingly violent language in their anti-government protests. I do not know of a single Republican who has spoken out against clear threats of violence such as the poster saying 'we cam unarmed THIS TIME'.

This has all happened before. Back in the early 90s when Clinton was first elected there was outrage from the Talk Radio 'shock jocks'. The rhetoric was steadily ramped up until April 19th 1995 when Timothy McVeigh, a racist anti-government militia supporter murdered 168 people in the Oaklahoma City Bombing.

How much proof does the Republican party leadership need before it acts? Is it going to take another mass murder before they have the courage to tell their supporters that it is not ok to talk about armed revolution, that doing so is treason, that they utterly repudiate such talk?

The talk about death panels is not just a wingnut fantasy, it legitimizes violent acts. If the state is planning to kill people, then killing government workers becomes self defense.

The birther hysteria is not just a wingnut fantasy, it is a strategy to delegitimize the administration, if Obama is not qualified to be President then attacks on the government are not treason.

We do not know for certain why Sparkman was murdered, we may never know, but if the Republican party continues to ignore the seditious talk amongst its core supporters it is a question of when and how many, not if there is a murder where the motive is undeniable.

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September 25, 2009 10:58 AM    in reply to hallam

Author Frank Schaeffer (Crazy for God), who is a repentant founder of the whole crazy Christian fundamentalist Right movement in this country, has plainly stated on his many appearances on Rachel Maddow's show that these corporatists are very consciously using the Nazi, socialist, like-Hitler memes to promote violence and maybe assassination.

He is very unequivocal about it. He personally knows some of the behind-the-scenes think tankers spewing this garbage and is very emphatic all this transcends mere "de-legitimizing."

He said "they are consciously placing a loaded gun on the table and are encouraging someone to use it."

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September 25, 2009 11:12 AM    in reply to hallam

I live not far from where this happened. Unfortunately, I doubt it has much to do with current anti-government sentiment. The area has a long history of not trusting the government and being REALLY protective of their privacy. As much as I'd love to blame the GOP for it, it goes back way further than that. There are places police don't go, and haven't gone for years, without several colleagues.

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September 25, 2009 10:23 AM    in reply to Stiggs

Yes. Weird sort of downplaying, but they're also not saying there was no foul play here. And what the heck is going on here? Certainly the question.

I doubt this is a situation, like back during the POTUS campaign where that crazy McCain/Palin supporter (oxymoron?) carved the backwards "B" on her face and said black Obama supporters did it to her. I doubt this guy scrawled that "fed" on his torso to implicate the corporatist hate mongers.

Or maybe it's a disinterested third party type trying something like Chuckie Manson's Helter Skelter plot to brew up the Ultimate War between the Michele Bachman followers who believe her when she says that the census threatens to demand knowledge "of when we do or do not leave mental stability" (yeah, she said that on GeeBeck's comedy show) and the remainder of the rational population. Maybe?

Not hanging from a tree like Billy Holiday's "Strange Fruit"? Sure.

What the heck is neck tying an older guy to a tree with his feet on the ground? Well, there's another piece of info I haven't seen: Were his hands tied too?

See, I'm thinking if you tie up somebody's hands, then tie their neck to a tree branch and leave him in the middle of the woods, that guy's going to pass out from fatigue at some point unless he's discovered within 24 or so hours.

If it took longer than that for him to be found, and if his hands were tied, then there is no difference whether his feet are on the ground or he's swaying 20 feet over the underbrush. The "hanging" will happen regardless — except there's a whole lot of mental torture that would precede the latter situation.

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September 25, 2009 10:31 AM    in reply to TheRealFish

"...except there's a whole lot of mental torture that would precede the latter situation."

Oops.

I meant the former situation — hands tied so you can't free yourself from the noose and knowing, just knowing for hour after hour that you will eventually lose your footing or pass out. Even just lose your footing and if your hands are tied, it's ever so unlikely you will be able to get your feet under you again. Ever.

That would be hideous, monstrous torture.

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September 24, 2009 6:37 PM   

I don't understand the distinction - does it matter whether his asphyxiation was by hanging or by choking?

I'm reserving judgment until we have a full explanation, but I'm baffled that someone bothered to make this distinction, which appears to be meaningless, when the larger questions remain unanswered.

Is the distinction meant to imply that he was responsible for his own death? As if it's any easier to self-asphyxiate than to hang oneself? (Forgive my ignorance of material covered in CSI type shows - I don't have a TV.)

Like a lot of people, I find this story utterly unnerving, and the lack of information (which to be fair may be essential to the investigation) is nonetheless maddening.

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September 24, 2009 6:56 PM    in reply to kyniska

Its not a meaningless distinction. As the recent death of Keith Carradine shows, accidental self-asphyxiation steeming from auto-eroticism is not that uncommom and that is one possibility if he wasn't hanging from a tree. Nobody should be jumping to any conclusions here. Wait for the FBI to finish its investigation.

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September 24, 2009 7:04 PM    in reply to richard f

accidental self-asphyxiation steeming from auto-eroticism is not that uncommom and that is one possibility if he wasn't hanging from a tree.

That's the kind of thing people do at home or in a hotel room. Do you really think a census worker is going to bring his self-asphyxiation fetish kit with him on the road and start getting off with it in public while going door to door? I really doubt it. All evidence points to homicide, even if there are many unanswered questions about the circumstances.

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September 24, 2009 7:19 PM    in reply to christovir

That's the kind of thing people do at home or in a hotel room. Do you really think a census worker is going to bring his self-asphyxiation fetish kit with him on the road and start getting off with it in public while going door to door? I really doubt it. All evidence points to homicide, even if there are many unanswered questions about the circumstances.


Is there any evidence of anything happening in public? From what I read it his body was discovered in a remote spot, not a public place. I know little about auto-eroticism/self-asphyxiation but there is simply not enough here that can be verified to make any conclusions at all

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September 24, 2009 9:38 PM    in reply to richard f

Here's a question - was his junk out? If so and the FBI suspect the guy was getting his jollies and accidentally choked to death then they should release a statement saying that it isn't conclusive but they suspect the death may have been accidental. If the evidence supports that conclusion then there is certainly nothing wrong with setting people's minds to rest.

My guess is that it is pretty unlikely the guy drove out to the middle of nowhere to choke himself with a rope tied around a tree and then choke himself. Particularly not after scrawling "FED" across his chest (unless I am really naive on the fetish front). And arguing he wasn't hanging because his feet were touching the ground? You might be sitting in the car, it might be running but the sign says no parking and you're still getting a ticket.

This stinks of redirection. The cops are looking way behind the eight ball on this. It's two weeks old, they have nothing and so they are refuting minor details in leaked reports rather than giving some concrete sense of what's going on. They said "blah blah blah" but all I heard was "we've got nothing and man are our faces red".

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September 25, 2009 11:57 AM    in reply to richard f

Yeah right Richard, and he also wrote fed on his chest b4 the auto erotic act as well, right? Get a clue dude.

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September 25, 2009 10:47 AM    in reply to christovir

We need to know if his hands were bound. Auto-eroticists wouldn't do that if they were alone.... Of course, even that wouldn't rule out suicide, but we also have little evidence of his state of mind to suggest that one way or the other either.

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September 24, 2009 7:18 PM    in reply to richard f

I agree wait for the FBI. I think the type of rope used is important as well ... most light ropes tend to stretch. He could very well have been hanging and slowly lowered to the ground over the reported 24 hours it took to find the body. Not enough information to draw a single conclusion from that fact, least of all that it points to a suicide/accidental death.

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September 24, 2009 7:27 PM    in reply to kgb999

The FBI is saying that no conclusions should be drawn about murder, suicide or accidental death. If the evidence was clear, they wouldn't be saying this. Just wait and the facts will come out. If he was killed by some right wing crazies or some meth dealers, there will be plenty of time to express outrage. If, on the other hand, it wasn't murder, blaming it on the right wing now will look very bad.

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September 25, 2009 10:43 AM    in reply to kyniska

Yes. A great difference. Assuming this was done to him and not suicide, stringing him up is, if you pardon the inhumane crassness, a "clean kill." String him up — he dies.

Leaving him tied to a tree with a rope around his neck for hours and hours and hours until he passes out from fatigue is a hideously prolonged torture.

One is cold murder. The other is a supremely sick hate crime (by dint of having the word "fed" written somewhere on his torso). Well, okay: Either method can be classified "hate crime" because of the "fed" thing, i.e., murder/torture intended to send a message to some group.

It might even be considered an act of sedition, since that "group" happens to be the government.

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September 24, 2009 6:50 PM   

It's been 12 days since his body was found; if the circumstances surrounding his death were not inflammatory, we would know by now.

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September 24, 2009 6:59 PM    in reply to TeddyKGB

It's been 12 days since his body was found; if the circumstances surrounding his death were not inflammatory, we would know by now.


Not true. All we know is what the press has reported and law enforcement is now saying that those press reports are inaccurate. Law enforcement has not even verified that "fed" was scrawled on his chest, the only thing that makes this death inflammatory. Everyone needs to calm down until we know more

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September 24, 2009 8:34 PM    in reply to richard f

"Law enforcement has not even verified that "fed" was scrawled on his chest,"

But they pointedly did not deny it, either ...

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September 24, 2009 7:15 PM   

"... Sparkman's feet were planted on the ground. A rope around Sparkman's neck was attached to a tree."

You can't possibly know how much better that makes me feel, knowing that he was garroted rather than strung up.

Lynching is lynching. However it occurs, the result is always the same.

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September 24, 2009 7:20 PM   

Talk about putting lives in danger? Is Fox putting these children in danger by showing them on T.V. and then telling people what school they are from? Watch this clip.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2983

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September 25, 2009 9:40 AM    in reply to atticus1104

No thanks.

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September 24, 2009 7:22 PM   

"At this juncture".

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September 24, 2009 7:33 PM   

Shades of Tawana Brawley / Al Sharpton here. Jumping to conclusions would be unwise.

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September 24, 2009 7:50 PM    in reply to Rantcaster

My recollection is that Tawana Brawley was, well, you know, alive.

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September 24, 2009 7:57 PM   

Being from KY, and travelling to this part of the state a lot, I know this about the people:
1. They are suspicious of outsiders. This stems from who settled in the area (Scot-Irish, and Irish-Catholics)
2. They are very poor and grown cannibis to sell for income. The DBNF (Daniel Boone Nat'l Forrest) is a known area for growning cannibis. The Feds are always there destroying the crops. The growers deliberately set up ambushes to kill or maime the drug enforcement officers.
3. KY is a red state and this is Appalachia country and for some strange reason GOP everytime. They are even poorer.

This man was murdered because:
1. He is a fed employee
2. A outsider asking too many questions
3. Political reasons ( I blame Bachmann & beck for stirring the pot)
4. Or a combination of 1, & 3. He did not work for drug enforcement. He wasn't destroying illegal smokes. I am betting on 1 & 3 being the reasons. I doubt he was perfoming some sort of erotica on the job.
This is GOP territory and many of them would not be happy with the election results.

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September 24, 2009 8:18 PM   

No, really we don't need to dial this back. It looks like an attack because he was working for the government. Could it have been that he stumbled onto an illegal drug operation, of course. Either way, it is a bunch of anti types that committed murder. (No one carves FED on their chest and them hangs themselve, particularly a father like this guy.) These kind of idiot criminal hill people need to be held accountable. What is wrong with speaking truth to criminals or the criminally ignorant. Whichever, it turns out to be, they need to be prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.

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September 24, 2009 8:48 PM   

Sounds to me like maybe he was an informant for the DEA.

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September 24, 2009 9:34 PM   

It seems unlikely that things would play out as they have over a suicide. Why wouldn't investigators end the rumors about the scrawling of "fed" if they were untrue? Vague statements aren't going to kill this story. Officials are just trying to keep the press away from the investigation.

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September 24, 2009 9:40 PM   

"left the impression that [Sparkman] was found strung up in a tree because he was a federal employee," Beyer said. "At this juncture that's not accurate." Beyer added that Sparkman died of asphyxiation."

I find the FBI's walk back baffling. There's rope, there's a dead guy, there's a tree, all three items were attached, the guy wasn't laying on the ground. He died due to lack of oxygen (a common cause of death from a hanging.) If there's something inaccurate about the original it's really minor and it's because whoever leaked the circumstances merely reported what he saw.

Tree, rope around neck, dead from lack of air, FED written on chest...died while hung with FED written on chest, or died from poison mushrooms -- don't jump to conclusions, his feet were on the ground!

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September 24, 2009 11:23 PM   

He was found dead, with a rope tied around his neck, attached to a tree, but his feet were touching the ground. That's so much better than swinging from a branch. I'm not as disturbed by it any more.

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September 24, 2009 11:28 PM   

He was found dead, with a rope tied around his neck, attached to a tree, but his feet were touching the ground. That's so much better than swinging from a branch. I'm not as disturbed by it any more.

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September 24, 2009 11:34 PM   

It's sad that we have troops on missions in Afghanistan rooting out Taliban when we could use them here in our Kentucky backwoods rooting out the American Taliban.

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September 24, 2009 11:58 PM   

Best Bet: Run a massive sweep in the area for marijuana -- good idea any way and a good way to discourage offing Feds in the future.

Whatever caused his death, the anonymous 'informant' was portraying this as a warning to Feds.

Might also check local actual "Feds" for corruption.

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September 25, 2009 12:50 AM    in reply to AJM

With all due respect that's not a practical idea at all. It won't do any thing to substantially affect the state's #1 cash crop, and is a very difficult task given the terrain and topography of the area.

This is a very disturbing situation, regardless of the cause of death. One thing to keep in mind is that marijuana farmers would be very unlikely to do anything that would attract extra attention this time of year -- the harvest.

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September 25, 2009 1:22 AM    in reply to august_west

Well he could have been taken across the hollow. I agree, who ever did this took him someplace far from where he encountered the culprit/s.
Rachel Maddow had the trooper who saw him last and phoned the missing report. He acknowleged that area was known for pot and meth business. That area is really remote, the trooper, said it has no phone service, in places. That also means no cable. That doesn't exclude dishes. I think it is possible this isn't wingnuts. But revenue-man hating moonshine/pot/meth makers.
But I don't think there is much out there but crackers. I'm guessing he walked into a Hatfield/McCoy contraband business. That area is sparcely populated and everyone knows everyone else. He would have been an obvious outsider. Asking questions.
That could be all they need to seal his fate. Meter readers have been known to bust cultivators, so it isn't a stretch that ANY person employed by government civil or fed, would be suspected.
He was moved seriously away from point of initial contact and tied by the neck to a tree and left standing there. After a few days, his hands tied behind him, exposure to the elements, dehydration, fear, that becomes a stress position.
He may have died with no one laying a hand on him and with time to be as far away as they could get.

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September 25, 2009 2:20 PM    in reply to myshadow

So put the pressure on the area from which he disappeared. The only way to turn the pressure off would be to surface the murderer.

I don't expect to put a dent into the state's production of marijuana but it must be made clear that murder leads to inconvenience at the least for those likely responsible.

The equation must be hurt Feds = get more Feds.

If this were Michigan, I'd suggest looking at militia.

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September 25, 2009 8:16 AM   

Have there been a lot of census people killed in the past(by pot growers or meth heads)?
Or is this murder just coincidentally this year when MICHELLE BACHMAN tied the Census in w/ACORN in her statement about "refusing to fill in the census?"
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5095844.shtml

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September 25, 2009 8:43 AM   

Wait until Kentucky or some other red state has to give up a congressional district because of this sort of tomfoolery. If you can't count 'em, they don't exist, right? Isn't that why Democrats have been pushing for sampling as a means of getting a more accurate count? Just wait - the next person you'll hear talking about sampling will be Mitch McConnell.

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September 25, 2009 8:45 AM    in reply to Steaming Pile

Here's an interesting article on sampling. Apparently, the Obama administration's Census nominee had to explicitly denouncing statistical sampling to get confirmed.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/census-nominee-shuns-sampling-as-counting-method/

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September 25, 2009 9:09 AM   

According to the local report, Stillwater was battling cancer. Do part-time census workers and substitute teachers get health insurance?
http://www.kentucky.com/181/story/949349.html?storylink=omni_popular

"Greene said Sparkman went to school online to finish a teaching degree even as he worked in the school system and battled cancer."

Could this have been an issue leading to a suicide?

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September 25, 2009 9:44 AM    in reply to psyopswatcher

Sorry, Sparkman, not Stillwater.

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September 25, 2009 12:34 PM   

Suicide appears unlikely, assuming the word "Fed" was written on his chest. I doubt he would have bothered to do that, if he intended to kill himself.

Assuming he was murdered and the killer(s) wrote that word on Sparkman's chest as a warning, I find it odd that the body wasn't located in a more public area assuring the body and the warning would be discovered before it decomposed enough to obliterate the message. This raises the possibility that the person who reportedly discovered the body may be involved in the murder. Also, the killer may have written the word to direct suspicion away from him (or her). If this is the case, the killer likely is someone who believed law enforcement would regard him as a possible suspect, but for the message.

The slow strangulation theory by leaving him with his toes able to support his weight isn't consistent with assuring a public discovery in time to see the message unless his hands were tied behind his back and he was gagged preventing him from shouting for help.

We lack sufficient information to determine if Sparkman might have been murdered at another location and transported to the site where the hanging was staged. This might explain why Sparkman's feet were found flat on the ground because, depending on how much he weighed together with the stretchiness quality of the rope and flexibility of the tree branch, lifting his dead weight off the ground by pulling on the other end of the rope and maintaining the tension while tying it to the tree probably would require considerable strength. The task would be much easier if the body remained in contact with the ground. I wonder if law enforcement found any evidence at the scene indicating that Sparkman stood or was placed on an elevated platform with the rope around his neck and the platform was removed causing his body to drop and the rope to tighten asphyxiating him? The platform would still be there, if he committed suicide.

Was his vehicle found? If so, where? When did he last communicate with his office and what was his schedule?

If he had a cell phone with GPS and it was turned on, law enforcement can track everywhere he went with the exception of dead zones. The pinging signal travels in straight lines in all directions and will be picked up by a cell tower within 20 miles so long as a mountain or hill isn't in the way, which may be a problem in this case.

Why did the killer go to so much effort? Why not shoot him and bury the body deep in the woods where it wouldn't be found?

Perplexing case.

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September 25, 2009 3:33 PM   

You also have to realize in this part of the country this was likely done by the halfwit inbred locals with no knowledge of physics and their only reference to hanging would be to some tv show they watch--pawpaw who was in the Klan died several years ago from lung cancer from the smokes the company store gave him so his expertise was not available. These people are not that bright on a scale most people can't imagine. They may have tried to hang him but blew it. Even being hanged by a state sanctioned hangmen requires all sorts of assessment of height, weight, drop, rope type, etc. If these guys thought it was just tie the rope and he falls it may not have worked that way and he was too close to the ground and got closer as he hung there so was not hanging or they had to pull on his body to break his neck when he did not drop with enough force to break his neck and was too close or on the ground. Hanging is about your neck breaking--a bad hanging results in a slow strangling (sometimes the intent though) or a decapitation (rarely the intent--remember Saddam?) I think this is the result of inbred halfwits who thought they knew how to hang someone from tv and messed it up.

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September 25, 2009 10:05 PM   

from AP:

BIG CREEK, Ky. (AP) -- A part-time census worker found hanging in a rural Kentucky cemetery was naked, gagged and had his hands and feet bound with duct tape, said an Ohio man who discovered the body two weeks ago.

"The only thing he had on was a pair of socks," Weaver said. "And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something."

"And they even had duct tape around his neck. And they had like his identification tag on his neck. They had it duct-taped to the side of his neck, on the right side, almost on his right shoulder."

The scene left Weaver without a doubt how Sparkman died.

"He was murdered," he said. "There's no doubt."

Weaver said the body was about 50 yards from a 2003 Chevrolet S-10 pickup truck. He said Sparkman's clothes were in the bed of the truck.

"His tailgate was down," Weaver said. "I thought he could have been killed somewhere else and brought there and hanged up for display, or they actually could have killed him right there. It was a bad, bad scene."

"It took me three or four good nights to sleep. My 20-year-old daughter ended up sleeping in the floor in our bedroom." he said.

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September 26, 2009 10:38 AM    in reply to Arkinsaq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090926/ap_on_re_us/us_census_worker_hanged There's your link.

So why were the Lexington headlines saying "Census worker's death by asphyxiation might not be homicide, police say"? Officials or reporters trying to confuse the issues?

Surely they've picked up some prints from the duct tape by now.

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September 25, 2009 11:09 PM   

The point is - there may be a murderer on the loose out there and don't the people who live around there have a right to know if they need to sit up with their loaded shotguns pointed at the door/window? Or if they can go about their business, not worrying about a murderer on the loose. that's the point to asking why the heck are they taking so long. If they had killed him in his house, the authorities would have come out a lot sooner with a theory, and not hidden the story for a week before it got national coverage. Worried about their image, perhaps.

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September 27, 2009 4:37 AM   

http://www.lex18.com/news/witness-says-census-workers-body-was-naked-and-bound-with-duct-tape/

Another link to a more complete story from a local NBC station.

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