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As you probably know by now, last week two conservative activists set off a frenzy in the right-wing media by posting videos in which they posed as a pimp and a prostitute -- complete with outlandish costumes -- and asked employees of ACORN for advice on how to conceal the woman's source of income on their tax forms. ACORN employees in Baltimore, Washington D.C., and Brooklyn, fell for the sting, offering advice to the young couple on how to deceive the government.

ACORN fired the employees involved, but that hasn't stopped coverage of the scandal from mushrooming beyond Fox's Glenn Beck and quickly going mainstream.

The reaction from Washington has been just as swift:

• The Census Bureau announced late last week that it would stop using ACORN as one of the 80,000 unpaid groups it works with to promote the 2010 census.

• On Monday, the Senate voted 83 to 7 to block the Department of Housing and Urban Development from giving federal housing money to ACORN.

• Yesterday, GOP House leader John Boehner wrote to President Obama, urging him to cut off all federal money to ACORN and its affiliates.

• Nebraska GOP senator Mike Johanns has called for a Justice Department investigation of the group.

• White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs has called the employees' behavior "unacceptable."

• And even GOP senator David Vitter -- no stranger to prostitution scandals -- has expressed his outrage.

In pushing back, ACORN has said it's considering suing Fox and the conservative film-makers for using a hidden camera to record the ACORN employees, which is illegal in some states. It also has charged that the film-makers tried their scam on other ACORN offices, but after not getting the responses they hoped for, didn't post the videos.

ACORN announced today that it will conduct in-service training for staff, and that its Independent Advisory Council will do an audit "to review all of the systems and processes called into question by the videos."

Conservatives and Republicans have longed waged a campaign against ACORN, focused mainly on the group's voter registration activities. During the 2008 cycle, ACORN, by its own tally, helped register over 1.3 million low-income, minority, and young -- in other words, predominantly Democratic -- voters across the country. As Steve Staneck, of the conservative Heartland Institute put it to CBS News this week: "[ACORN] has no business trying to organize voter registration because it has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted to do that."

But there's little evidence that any of ACORN's bad conduct has compromised that core effort. Even the cases of voter-registration fraud that Republicans complained loudly about last fall -- in which ACORN canvassers wrote Mickey Mouse and other fake names on registration forms, in order to pad their numbers and earn bonuses -- had no impact on actual voter rolls, since Mickey Mouse can't show up to vote.

Still, this story isn't likely to go away any time soon.

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September 16, 2009 5:47 PM   

Holy cow, you're actually going to say something about this? It's only been a week

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September 16, 2009 5:54 PM    in reply to Campesino

Campesi,

ACORN didn't murder anyone.

"Steve Nunn, the Kentucky Republican former gubernatorial candidate and state lawmaker, has been charged in the murder of his former fiancée Amanda Ross."


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September 16, 2009 5:49 PM   

ACORN was practically unknown until they announced they registered 3.1 million "low-income, minority, and young
-- in other words, predominantly Democratic -- voters across the country." This made them a target of the Republicans and the right wing.

People should lose their jobs and ACORN should pay a penalty for employing what are obviously unqualified people. On the other hand, the good that ACORN does should not go unpublicized.

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September 17, 2009 9:14 AM    in reply to JohnW1141

It is to late for that. They have been discredited in a way that makes continued liberal support for them political poison. They should fold. If they do not they should be treated as if they are radioactive. Politicaly they are.

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September 17, 2009 9:23 AM    in reply to Larry Geater

Yeah, because wussing out has worked out soooooooo well in the past.

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September 17, 2009 10:47 AM    in reply to Steaming Pile

It is not wussing out to dump the corupt who are nominaly on you side. They hurt you and help the oposition. Acorn serves the left about as well as the tea baggers help the right. They alienate the middle and even thinking liberals.

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September 17, 2009 12:56 PM    in reply to Larry Geater

Larry Geater,

isn't that what John Ashcroft did to the accounting firm Arthur Anderson, putting thousands of law abiding people out of work because of a relatively small number that were guilty?

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September 17, 2009 2:35 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

Yes, if you have the bad luck to be honest and work for an accounting firm that commits fraud you have to look for a job.

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September 17, 2009 3:39 PM    in reply to Larry Geater

Larry Geater,

so, we must shoot ourselves in the foot, gotcha. Its almost like destroying the village in order to save it.

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September 17, 2009 5:31 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

The only way we could shoot ourselves in the foot on this one would be to defend the indefensible. No condemning Acorn now would make us like the GOPers who are scared of offending the dito heads.

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September 17, 2009 12:22 PM    in reply to JohnW1141

What I find funny is that the advice that was given is actually what you'd get from any other "qualified" tax attorney. The tax shelters she's talking about are not uncommon. Illegal yes, but certainly not uncommon...especially for higher income earners. I worked with many of these people, who tend to set up bogus businesses, shell companies, or partnerships to write off personal expenses. (Those that I was working with were the leftovers after the tax attorney they used was indicted and sent to jail for 5 years for doing just that.)

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September 17, 2009 2:38 PM    in reply to ohyeathatsright

I have no problem with the tax advice or even giving it to a prostitute, but if you do not draw the line (and stat snichin') when they start talking about importing underage sex slaves that is simply evil.

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September 17, 2009 5:00 PM    in reply to Larry Geater

Agreed. I wasn't condoning the behavior and also thought it was despicable that she would say that they could be "dependents". I was simply stating that this is essentially exactly what goes on in the accounting field in general.

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September 16, 2009 6:50 PM   

SO by that logic the government should cut off funding and business to the USPS since they sometimes have employees that break the law.

None of it really matters though. The GOP is dying faster than any of us have a right to expect. By 2020 they will be all but gone.

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September 16, 2009 6:51 PM   

An ACORN story? Really?

How nice to see that we have a sense of proportion for the magnitude of this crime.

It's obvious to me that only reason cons and Reeps are pursuing this is that they think this will somehow manage to tarnish Obama. I know it ain't the corruption, because there's already plenty of that occuring elsewhere in DC and around the country and around the world for that matter on far far greater scales than anything that went on in one goddamn ACORN office.

But you know Reeps and cons - it's all about symbolism.

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September 17, 2009 1:08 PM    in reply to psyclone

psyclone,,

I'd say the Repugs didn't give two shits about ACORN until ACORN got 1.3 million poor people to register to vote in the last election.

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September 16, 2009 7:11 PM   

Jes' yer typical Repug tactic of accusing the other side of their own misdeeds. Acorn? Yawn. This was non-news last fall, and the FOX entrapment video is just something to fill the empty heads of their followers with.

Meanwhile, here is a real voter fraud criminal from the last election:

Head of CA GOP Voter Registration Firm Pleads Guilty to Voter Registration Fraud
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7237

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September 16, 2009 7:23 PM   

ACORN is a great organization and they do a lot of noble of work for the disenfranchise. But they seriously need to get their house in order.

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September 17, 2009 10:51 AM    in reply to ru4862

They need to disolve and let their effective programs devolve to other organizations or a new one that can take them over.

Acorn does not do one thing to help. The people who work for it do. Keep the good ones, ditch the criminal idiots, and lose the name.

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September 17, 2009 10:52 AM    in reply to Larry Geater

Oh, and I almost forgot. Send an army of liberal colege students out with hidden cameras to discredit every conservative organization we can.

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September 17, 2009 11:59 AM    in reply to Larry Geater

lose the name

Well, that worked for A.I.G. and Blackwater....

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September 17, 2009 2:42 PM    in reply to Schmed

For it to work you have to actually shutter the company/non-profit and start over. It is not good enough to simply change the letterhead. Unless you are selling scooters or diabetes suplies to seniors.

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September 16, 2009 7:41 PM   

I haven't actually watched the videos (because really, who cares?), but isn't it a good thing to encourage people in black/grey markets to pay income tax? From the bits of the clips I have seen, I must say I found the lack of judgement about these "clients" chosen "professions" kinda refreshing - far too much finger wagging & tongue clucking going on these days.

That being said however, if the clip I saw on the Daily Show of the "pimp" was actually representative of how this "investigator" was dressed for these meetings - the Acorn staff must be pretty gullible.

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September 16, 2009 7:44 PM   

I find it interesting that Zachary's post is written in such a dry formalistic style as if the only thing that forced this "journalist" to address it at all was Robert Gibbs presser. No hint from Zachary on whether or not the pimp scandal was a "bad thing" for ACORN to do - but blaiming the republicans will always work.

On second thought - Zachary's carefully hedging style is best explained by the fact that nobody knows which videos (apparently many more) are coming next.

ACORN should be shut down.

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September 16, 2009 9:20 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

What is is with you people and your obsession with the doings of even the lowest level employee of this organization? It's like you have it confused with S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or something and Obama with Blofeld.

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September 17, 2009 5:07 PM    in reply to Lalo35adm

But don't investigate the Bush administration or the CIA, or Blackwater/Xe, or Halliburton because that would be looking into the past and we should be focused on the future.

[Insert eye-roll here]

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September 16, 2009 7:46 PM   

The federal government does not have a policy of cutting off funding/support or relationships with vendors who's individual employees perform... what?... providing bad information?

I agree with firing the employees for not having any ethical compass, but there was literally no crime.

The irony is the federal government funds thousands of private companies with well-documented crimes... KBR anyone?

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September 17, 2009 12:05 PM    in reply to Jaycal

The irony is the federal government funds thousands of private companies with well-documented crimes... KBR anyone?

Or Wackenhut?

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September 17, 2009 5:33 PM    in reply to Jaycal

That is a better analogy. Take away their funding to.

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September 16, 2009 7:54 PM   

I hope Democrats do not fall for this Republican attack. There are bad apples in any organization, That should not taint the whole organization.

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September 16, 2009 7:57 PM    in reply to pvel

"There are bad apples in any organization"

- That's what Bush said.

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September 17, 2009 1:21 AM    in reply to Lalo35adm

So wait. Are you suggesting that Acorn lawyers at the highest levels wrote briefs justifying employees providing information on how clients should hide their ill-gotten income?

You do raise a good point though. People throughout the previous administration were complicit in crimes against humanity and violations of international treaties. What are we doing wasting our time worrying about a handful of poorly behaving employees in an organization whose sole function is to assist the neediest segments of our society?

Also, if Congress is going to waste their time with this I think it would be prudent to secure copies of the unedited videos.

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September 16, 2009 8:01 PM   

While they're at it, the federal government should stop paying KBR since their shoddy work has led to soldiers in Iraq being electrocuted.

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September 17, 2009 1:29 AM    in reply to kunal

And rather than responding to the gang rape of one of their employees by her coworkers with an internal investigation and handing over the perpetrators to the state department for prosecution, they threatened her and locked her in a shipping container until the DoD sent people to rescue her. But KBR's a standup organization. Unlike those Acorn "community organizer" folks. And besides, due to the legal limbo of security contractors in our two war fronts no criminal charges can be pressed, so it's kind of like nothing bad actually happened.

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September 16, 2009 8:04 PM   

I can't wait for the Chicago episode to come out. What a cliffhanger!

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September 16, 2009 8:42 PM   

Well, its time for Fair 'n Balanced.

Lets send Rush a little visitor to his house, say a very young looking (but still 18) slim hipped sweet looking Dominican boy dressed in a pair of skin tight speedos. Get the camera running. See what happens.

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September 16, 2009 8:56 PM   

Um...doesn't ACORN employees helping someone commit tax fraud prove that the symbiotic relationship between them & Obama the Right claims exists is bullshit?

Seriously, if ACORN is supposedly so tight with him, then why would they want to help someone not fund a government with him in charge? Their actions clearly look like that of people who still see the government as The Man, to be cheated whenever possible.

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September 16, 2009 10:11 PM   

Now if we can just get someone to take a hidden camera into some tax havens. UBS, anyone?

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September 16, 2009 10:19 PM    in reply to Kenneth Thomas

Why don't you do it, Lionheart?

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September 16, 2009 10:14 PM   

I realize that most blogers on this sight are not near an ACORN counceling center. If they did they would wont a light shined on this place. A RICO investigation is comming and the tentacles will go to Congress and Senate members. Oh yea, the Whitehouse.

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September 17, 2009 1:25 AM    in reply to hawaiian

luk out hawwaian, teh deth pannel is comming for you! were luking for owld foks ho cant spel!

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September 17, 2009 1:04 PM    in reply to Dave Bowman

Dave Bowman,

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, that's gold :-)

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September 16, 2009 10:51 PM   

sad and unfortunate.

republicans really can't stand acorn can they?

and what's acorn's crime. they try to register voters.

why don't repbulicans like that?

because very few new voters will vote republican.

an increasingly shrinking segment of the population will...

look.

focus long enough on any organization and you will find something you can criticize.

hell! mother theresa was criticised on her death as a heartless bitch.

don't believe the hype.

this is all more RW kabuki theater with absolutely ZERO real world effect and everything to do with repukelican attempts to shut down an organization that is actually legitimately engaged in the democractic process.

transgressions can be found anywhere.

the question is are they relevant.

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September 16, 2009 11:40 PM   

Acorn is also responsible for encouraging Rev. Wright to denounce America. Acorn had Teri Schivo killed. Acorn fixed the election of that Obama guy and doctored his birth certificate. Acorn will supply the people for the Death Panels. Acorn faked the moon landings. If you rearrange the letters of Acorn you get "Socialism". As we comment on this, Acorn is arranging a hit on Michele Bachmann.

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September 17, 2009 12:22 PM    in reply to ivy22

Don't forget, ACORN was on the grassy knoll

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September 17, 2009 12:13 AM   

And in other news:

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/fox-gets-punkd-acorn-volunteer-knew

Apparently, nobody was fooled by the Huggy Bear outfit. Everyone should be glad to know that the volunteer's ex-husbands are all alive and well. When can we expect an apology from Fox News?

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September 17, 2009 10:02 AM    in reply to Matt Jones

When pigs fly.

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September 17, 2009 1:45 AM   

So if I posed as a businessman running a ponzi scheme and got video footage of a Citibank employee giving me advice on how to hide the cash, could we stop giving them money too?

For years the mortgage industry was making a significant portion of their loans to people who were encouraged by the people selling the loans to lie on their applications. This was common knowledge both inside and outside the industry prior to the financial collapse. Many of those loans went into default which fueled the banking collapse. Despite having a business model relying heavily on complicity in fraud, congress and the white house wrote a $700 billion check to the very people who created the mess they were then being rescued from (not to mention the several trillion in low interest or interest free loans provided by the treasury and federal reserve).

And we were okay with that (really?). But a couple of low level staffers behave poorly in responding to what I would expect was a completely bizarre and isolated (not to mention staged) interaction and the senate feels the need to distance themselves from the organization. Very little about this country makes sense.

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September 17, 2009 10:11 AM   

What we all want to know is who played the parts and just how good at it were they?
Surely the cons have plenty of these willing outburst-creators ready to go.
What do you think??
Are they cons? Or pros?? Or just frauds scamming for the insanity channel?
acorn is like any organization.
You keep trying to sell something and you find some buyers.
Isn't that how the cons work anyway?
Look at how many people vote for them.Yes there is that much stupidity on hand.
And the insanity channel needs them all lined up.
This sounds like a scripted reality show ready made for the idiot brigade.

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September 17, 2009 11:31 AM   

Yawn....oh yeah, ACORN is corrupt. How many Confirmed wrong doings out of the millions registered?? Sorry, ya can't count allegations, just confirmed. Can ya even count them on 1 hand? I didn't think so. Conservatives, you were wrong about social security, Medicare, civil rights, minimum wage, deregulation, 911 Saddam connection, Weapons of mass destruction, the outing of a CIA agent, George Bush as a good pick for our country, Sarah Palin?!?!(what the hell was that all about?)trickle down economics, White Water. Heck I could almost go on forever. Do ya see a pattern here? Conservatism is an abject failure. Do our country a favor by shutting up for a few years so we can once again repair the damage you with your "judgment" inflicted. After liberals have once again made America strong , you can start running around yapping hysterically about what ever you think might be a bad idea. Because history has shown us how America should value your judgment and opinion.

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September 17, 2009 12:17 PM   

Thank goodness there were never any companies or organizations that deserved stings, entrapment or journalistic skullduggery during the past 8 years. None at all. Right?

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September 17, 2009 12:43 PM   

.... as we continue down our never ending slope, ethics, standards, morality fall farther and farther away from our goals and selfishness is more and more prevalent.

We are seeing it at the highest and lowest levels of our society... and it is becoming more and more commonplace.

Our next election cycle should be a doozie... IMHO

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September 17, 2009 3:44 PM    in reply to johnnydoughey

Yup, those doozies were such great cars that the company no longer exists.

A lot in the next election cycle will depend on the fate of Health Insurance Reform and Health Care Reform. If the Health Reform serves We the People, the Democrats will be rewarded. If it serves the interests of the corporations, the Democrats will deserve to be punished at the polls.

Can anyone explain why Health Insurance is even necessary? It is used to siphon off much needed money from actual Health Care.
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