A Hardin Montana official is trying to quell rumors that the town is "becoming a police state, having private paramilitary security forces, building gates at the town entrances, taking residents to the detention center that refuse to get swine flu shots, registering your firearms, and blocking off our main street," among other fears.
In a statement, Al Peterson of the city's economic development agency, the Two Rivers Authority (TRA), responds to fears stoked by Hardin's deal with American Police Force, a mysterious private security contractor, to provide prisoners for an empty prison in town.
Addressing concerns, raised mostly on the internet, that citizens could be forced to give up their guns, Peterson writes: "It would be a cold day in____ when anyone could ask the citizens of this area give up their firearms without a HUGE fight." Peterson adds a "personal opinion" that "Gun control in Montana is best described as 'Being Able To Hit Your Target.'"
Separately, Peterson told TPMmuckraker that Becky Shay, the former local reporter who abruptly quit her job and signed on as APF's PR rep last week, has received death threats. A message on Shay's voicemail said her mailbox was full and could not accept messages.
The state's attorney general has launched a probe of the deal between APF and the TRA. APF official Michael Hilton has a lengthy criminal record, and several claims made by the company on its website -- such as that it works with the US government and operates in all 50 states -- have been called into question.
Here's Peterson's statement in full:
For those of you who have been reading articles located on the internet regarding Hardin, Montana becoming a police state, having private paramilitary security forces, building gates at the town entrances, taking residents to the detention center that refuse to get swine flu shots, registering your firearms, and blocking off our main street, and many more outlandish false information, I have an update for you.The local Big Horn County Sheriff's Department is in charge of all police functions in Hardin and Big Horn County and has been since 1976. Sheriff Lawrence "Pete" Big Hair is the County Sheriff and is in charge of police /sheriff deputies for the city and county. He, in my opinion, does not have enough manpower, equipment, money, etc. to adequately cover the large area. The county and city officials are in discussions to end their agreement, with the city possibly to start trying to implement a city police department. The agreement calls for the county to continue to provide police services for the city for the next two years.
Hardin Two Rivers Authority, City of Hardin's Economic Development Commission, is also trying to open a detention facility that has been unoccupied for two years. recently, the TRA has been working with a new corporation, APF, to try and provide inmates for the facility. The City of Hardin and the TRA have agreed that the revenue will be to help the city with the start up and operating costs of the police force if one is organized and approved by the Hardin City Council. We are hoping there will be enough revenue to help over the TRA expenses and the city police force when this is up and running.
The last time I was on a Hardin street, there was one black Mercedes SUV driving around Hardin. It is being driven by the ONLY APF employee currently in Hardin, Becky Shay, the APF spokeswoman. She was in a skirt, blouse and NOT carrying a weapon. Nobody has been stopped by any police officer in Hardin other by the Big Horn County Sheriff's Department. Montana, Big Horn County and Hardin, have a large percent of our population that are hunters. It would be a cold day in____ when anyone could ask the citizens of this area give up their firearms without a HUGE fight.
My personal opinion:
People who would believe that the State of Montana, or any town in Montana, would allow, much less invite, a private paramilitary security force to take over police duties, JUST DO NOT KNOW MONTANANS. Montana has more firearms, per capita, than virtually any other state in America. Gun control in Montana is best described as 'Being Able To Hit Your Target." Even many of our women practice gun control in Montana. Montana has more women who have concealed weapons permits, and know which is the business end, than most states have men who have them. Montanans don't post this type of misinformation on the internet, we post pictures of things we kill.

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Pope Guilty
October 2, 2009 6:03 PM
So basically there's no reason to believe that APF is anybody but Hilton and this reporter?
Looks like a con to me. Hilton figured he'd scam a small backwater town out of some money and didn't figure on nationwide media attention.
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elle a
October 3, 2009 3:10 AM in reply to Pope Guilty
even if that is so, where did he get the money to buy the jail in the first place?
and when selling a county jail, doesnt the mayor or whoever do background checks?
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kweenofdenyl
October 3, 2009 3:52 AM in reply to elle a
FWIW they aren't selling the county jail--the prison was built in the hopes of luring a private prison corp. to do business in Hardin but has remained empty since completion. It is costing a LOT of money for it to sit empty and since the town put up most of the money they are very eager to see something done with it. That's probably why they didn't look very hard at this guy.
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 3, 2009 7:44 PM in reply to Pope Guilty
We'll all wish it was a scam after we crawl out of this rabbit hole. Folks, I think there is trouble in River City. Big Trouble. For real. The parent company is just about to be outed, and it's got a joint venture going on with KBR/Halliburton. Plus, I think we may have figured out the Serbian angle. Oh, man.
I really hope this story gets some legs. And here we thought Team America: World Police was just a movie.
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Bademus
October 4, 2009 3:14 PM in reply to The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
I wouldn't worry, not with Sheriff Big Hair around.
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SfcMayhem
October 5, 2009 10:12 PM in reply to The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
Its a scam. A big company if trying to pull some big zeitgeist, is not about to use some well documented, totally piss poor criminal to do it with. They would get someone with a clean background. It's easy to figure out... why you may ask?
Simple, if you were some big company, trying to test the waters, and needed a guy to be the public face of the test, wouldn't you pick someone that has a very clean and distinguished BG? Someone who is not a known con artist with loads of debt, and judgments against him, and is not a convicted felon??? I know I would. Hell I wouldn't hire this guy to clean my toilets, or even pump gas with his BG. Anyone who wants to think its a conspiracy, use some common sense... it's that easy. He has conned many people, and been convicted of it. He owes a Dr. in CA $750k, and since Michael Hilton (and associated aliases) are on the business certificate, if for some reason he lands a contract, he will have a lien on him in a day, and won't make one red cent. There is no way he can change that. Also, federal law prohibits felons from possessing weapons or body armor. It extends to corporations owned/operated by felons as well. Thus his company cannot own any of those items, not even one round of ammunition. Like I said, he is horrible, at being a con man. This is just one Con he never thought of it becoming this big... which just goes to show, how bad he is at being a con man. How do I know that is what is going on??? Simple... common sense tells us that there is no way anyone would hire him to do partake in some big scheme. It is too complex of an idea and would take so many things to be perfect for these conspiracy theories to work. And hiring a convicted felon, with a rap sheet like that, is not the way to do that. Its a con, plain and simple. Even a scheister govt contractor wouldn't do business with this guy, so that says a lot right there. Payments late on the mercedes SUVs, I'm telling you, this thing is about to unravel faster than it spun up... just wait and see...
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SfcMayhem
October 5, 2009 10:35 PM in reply to Pope Guilty
They have one employee in their santa ana office, at least there was one in the tiny little office when I stopped by last friday.
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Technowitch
October 2, 2009 6:06 PM
What I'm wondering is whether there's any sort of Montana state code prohibiting just anyone from driving around in a vehicle declaring itself to be "Police".
The very name itself 'American Police Force' could reasonably be presumed to be an assertion of operating under color of official civil authority.
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Mooser
October 2, 2009 6:35 PM
So the citizens of Montana should resolve this with firefights? Oh, that makes sense. I am going back to the lead-in-the-water-theory. Mine tailings.
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TJF
October 2, 2009 6:47 PM in reply to Mooser
Spend some time reading some Montana news websites. I did so after a relative of someone I know was shot to death there, and it seems violent gun deaths over petty issues are common. I had to double check to see that i wasn't reading the crime section of an Oakland or Detroit newspaper.
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EH
October 2, 2009 6:43 PM
if he wants inmates for his jail so bad, maybe he should try to get that concealed-carry law repealed.
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tctundra
October 2, 2009 6:51 PM
What's fascinating about this is that he admits that Hardin is looking to end their contract with the county for Law Enforcement. Nobody mentioned that before.
The biggest concern I have then is this - just about the ONLY thing APF didn't offer as a service on their website was "we'll operate your detention center for you!" But they were clearly offering private law enforcement services, and showed up in Hardin PD marked cars. There's more to this, though I suspect it's just small time local politicians promising more than they were authorized to when they were wowed by a smooth talker with flashy cars and lots of pictures of cool weaponry.
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Duke '71
October 2, 2009 7:59 PM in reply to tctundra
The APF website seems like an obvious scam, but I haven't been able to figure out the angle. Either they're out to be private police for the town, or they simply have aspirations to use the prison for some "legitimate" use, such as being a middle man for high-value international prisoners, and they've simply been brought down by ineptitude. Both of these options are alarming in their own ways.
Of course all the paranoid right-wing FEMA camp nonsense ensures that none of the real questions get answered, though it is interesting to see how they've split themselves over this issue. Perhaps a sign of things to come?
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Bademus
October 4, 2009 3:22 PM in reply to Duke '71
The website looks fake, the company was recently incorporated, they are hiding their ownership and a repeat felon/fraudster who declared bankruptcy a while back is brokering the deal. I'm thinking he must have someone on the back end that he will sublease the prison to. Who would that be and what type of prisoners and oversight would it have?
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mycomment
October 2, 2009 7:06 PM
***Peterson writes: "It would be a cold day in____ when anyone could ask the citizens of this area give up their firearms without a HUGE fight." Peterson adds a "personal opinion" that "Gun control in Montana is best described as 'Being Able To Hit Your Target.'"***
with a mentality like that, it's no wonder the city's officials signed up. hell, i bet every one of them was looking forward to all that gear -- just imagine the flak jackets! -- the vehicles (that you just know would be black tricked out hummers) and badges!
i bet those boys still get boners just thinking about the day APF rolled into town.
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Jonquil
October 2, 2009 7:33 PM
"Even" many of our women?????
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nfbloch
October 2, 2009 7:40 PM
So he's admitting they want to cancel their current arrangement with the Sheriff's department and these guys show up in black SUV's with Hardin Police Force on them. Gee, wonder where anyone got the idea Hardin is going to use these crooks for policing?
These people really are idiots and they must thing Montana's are too. I agree, must be the mercury from the mine tailings.
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tweakyd
October 2, 2009 9:04 PM
America, Fuck yeah!
Suck my dick and lick my balls!
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pqowieur
October 3, 2009 5:14 AM
For those of you who are not yet convinced that the plan all along was to have APF as (atleast "initiallly") the Hardin Police Force you must read this part of this Gazzette Article BY BECKY SHAY (OMFG). They really tried to conceal this LATER when people started freaking but they admit it here. Maybe Hilton didnt like that getting out. This is even in the contract (as an "option") which i found at the papers website.
Hardin betting on mystery company
by BECKY SHAY [ http://www.billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_babd814e-a591-11de-8891-001cc4c002e0.html
Hardin police force
The Hardin City Council has a public hearing "on law enforcement" scheduled for Thursday. That hearing, like several that have been held around the county, is to gauge public opinion on the city breaking from the county for law enforcement services. The city and county have been at odds for years about the law enforcement presence provided by the Sheriff's Office.
Hilton said APF has proposed that, if Hardin creates a police department, the company [APF themselves!] would provide the initial officers and hire a local chief of police [!!]. APF has already purchased Mercedes vehicles that are being outfitted and will be available for patrol cars, Hilton said. [!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
The training center also could provide some officers [!!!!] to support the city, he said.
Hilton said that during a trip to Hardin to check out the jail facility, he was shocked to see people selling and using drugs, so he wants to have two narcotics agents [!!!!!] in Hardin, too.
After Tuesday's council meeting, resident Virginia Pitsche said she welcomes anyone who can help clean up Hardin. [OMFG!]
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pqowieur
October 3, 2009 7:10 AM in reply to pqowieur
This is even in the APF/TRA contract agreement document (as an "option") which is found here: (see section 1.05, it also references a *seperate* agreement that was signed, I bet the AG will like seeing that one too, Gazzette, u got that doc too?) http://billingsgazette.com/pdf_d0340352-af1b-11de-9bfe-001cc4c03286.html
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psyopswatcher
October 3, 2009 5:23 PM in reply to pqowieur
Interesting provision on page 10 under section XII. Additional Provisions.
12.04 Inmate telephone revenues are not Project Revenues, and shall be payable to, and belong to, the Operator.
Is this clause indicative of (one of) APF's plan to make money on this enterprise? Inmates doing tele-marketing? Debt collections? Push polling?
Provision 12.05 says the commissary revenues also belong to the Operator.
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barrelhse
October 3, 2009 10:29 AM
One-hundred-and-one trombones led the big parade....
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speedbumped
October 3, 2009 10:35 AM
Anybody at TPM tried reaching APF through their "East and West Coast" hotlines?
Anybody else tried submitting an application for a job just to see what happens?
It's interesting to me that the email addresses for Becky Shay and the APF general contact email are both for American Police GROUP, not Force--perhaps indicative that this is in fact bigger than a one-man con?
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hoppycalif2
October 3, 2009 12:16 PM
Didn't Elmore Leonard write this book? I must buy it.
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 3, 2009 12:50 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm at first I thought the parent company was the Vance Group, founded in 1984. But so was Wackenhut, apparently, and they are now called the GEO Group, a big private for-profit prison corp. GEO runs a migrant operations center at Gitmo:
http://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/contracts/acb-3-c-0008_wackenhut_corrections_corporation_%2805-foia-1767.pdf
Since Hardin was trying to take on some of the Gitmo detainees awhile ago, a connection with GEO may have been made back then. GEO gets about $500 million in government contracts per year (per fedspending.org), mostly from DEA, DoD, Customs, IRS, Dept of State, the VA, and of course, Homeland Security.
SOS international is probably also involved, because the "Captain" mentioned his boss was Richard Culver several weeks ago when there was much less attention paid to APF by the media. The US government gives a lot of money to their translation services division, to interpret for detained migrants and deaf prisoners. Otherwise it looks as though SOS international deals with medical evacuations for rich people, pandemic and terrorist response, etc. SOS International may be providing security and/or medi-vac services for the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, because they did it at the last Olympics. Hardin is just a puddle-jump from Vancouver via helicopter, I noticed.
As to the Serbian connection: Subcontractor. Serb mercenaries work for cheap compared to Blackwater/Xe. Republicans and Democrats have their own pet mercenaries and Blackwater belongs to the Republicans. The Clinton Administration connected with a lot of Soviet bloc mercenary outfits during Kosovo.
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OwenG
October 3, 2009 4:01 PM in reply to The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
I'm a little confused about the Serbian connection to the Democrats. It was my understanding that during Kosovo we were at war with the Serbs. The Serbs don't strike me as "Let bygones be bygones" people, they have been bitter enemies with their neighbors going back centuries.
From what I recall the Clinton Administration forced them make concessions regarding Kosovo that did not sit well with the average person. I just don't see them turning around and becoming Democratic Bully Boys. From my limited contact that I've had with Serbian people they struck me as being a very proud and nationalistic and what you suggest seems to be totally out of character.
I dunno, maybe if the money is right, (and mercenaries are all about money) then anything is possible, but for now I have my doubts.
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 3, 2009 5:26 PM in reply to OwenG
OwenG this rabbit hole goes so deep my head is spinning:
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/
Chris Killz probably scooped us all. I've been working on a blog post trying to figure out the parent company. I got as far as SOS International (stll might be a parter) and then came across Chris' blog.
Serbian connection explained!
http://chriskillz503.blogspot.com/2009/10/geo-group-aka-wackenhut-corrections.html
Or, there is another shadowy corporation connected to the former Serbian royal family. It doesn't have much of an online presence though.
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greylox
October 3, 2009 4:04 PM
**I think the angle is (if there truly is money involved) that they want this property for a training facility like the one Xe wanted to build outside San Diego.
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psyopswatcher
October 4, 2009 8:54 AM in reply to greylox
A training facility with real inmates to 'train' on? That's double dipping, maybe even triple dipping if the prison population is producing something marketable like the telephone revenues mentioned in the Operation and Management Agreement, section 12.4
1. Training Center fees for mercenaries.
2. Fees collected for prisoners from the "Sending Jurisdictions".
3. Prison industry revenues (telephone and commissary)
It's outsourcing at it's worst.
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thatfarmerguy
October 3, 2009 4:52 PM
Boy, Al Peterson sure is a rube. Al, buy an account over at Lexis-Nexis. It'll save you a lot of heartburn the next time someone tries to pull the wool over your eyes. I mean, first you get snookered into building the prison, then you get taken by another con man when it comes time to try to open it? Someone (Besides Becky Shay) should start looking for a job.
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chigger
October 3, 2009 4:56 PM
That whole coat-of-arms thing reminds me of Joseph Schmitz, son of Representative John G. Schmitz, who was a bit obsessed with creating a coat-of-arms or whatever for his office. More here on that:
http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070620214436.pdf
"....Department of Defense
DOD IG Joseph Schmitz resigned in 2005 during a Congressional investigation into whether Mr. Schmitz had blocked criminal investigations of senior Pentagon officials.27 Sen. Charles Grassley also investigated whether Mr. Schmitz had submitted a report to the White House for review before it was issued.28 Senior officials in the IG’s office reportedly used code names in referring to persons under investigation, out of fear that Mr. Schmitz would tip off Pentagon officials to pending investigations.29
Mr. Schmitz also faced allegations of waste and mismanagement, including a charge that he was “obsessed” with researching the history of Baron Friedrich von Steuben, the Inspector General of the Continental Army for General George Washington, and spent months personally redesigning the seal of the DOD IG to include elements of the von Steuben family coat of arms.30
Mr. Schmitz left the Pentagon to become general counsel for the parent company of Blackwater USA, a major government and defense contractor...."
Of course, you know where Joseph Schmitz ended up working after he resigned, don't you? Blackwater.
Regarding Joseph Schmitz's obsession, General Baron von Steuben:
www.petertatchell.net/tra...ington.htm
"LAFAYETTE PARK
....Situated in front of the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue, this small park honours the great revolutionary soldiers who defeated the British army of occupation in the battle for US independence.
One of those revered with a grand statue in the north-west corner of the square is General Baron von Steuben (1730-1794), who helped found the US Army and played a major role in the liberation of America from British rule.
Von Stueben had originally served on the military staff of the gay Prussian King, Frederick II, but left Europe for America amid allegations of homosexual scandal. When von Steuben took on the task of training the US rebels, he picked a handsome 17-year-old soldier as his secretary and
personal assistant. The two were inseparable. In his later years, he developed a close attachment to two young captains who had served as his aides-de-camp. His will named them as his adopted children" and sole heirs.
Von Steuben's statue is a paean to homo-eroticism and camp irony. At the base, are the figures of two naked men, one advising the other in the art of swordmanship. It is entitled "military instruction".
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bayside
October 3, 2009 6:10 PM
This sheriff is so big and bad..What kind of a person invites a company they know nothing about gives them a ten year contract, pakistan people the same ones that Bin Laden is pals with, that we evidently are at war ,with because we are killing them with drones in their back yard to train more terrorists..Maybe they will see Bin Laden..
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bayside
October 3, 2009 6:15 PM
And where is the FBI investigating pakistans wanting to set up a training camp in our own country..
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(RxR)
October 3, 2009 7:20 PM
can anyone tell me why their website starts referring to them as APPF? are they spelling "force" as "pforce" in honor of nancy pfotenhauer? after you explain that to me, please tackle the question of how a private security solutions firm acquires "unique privacy laws." if this holds water i plan to put my unique i can drive on sidewalks law into effect tomorrow.
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sashimi
October 3, 2009 7:56 PM
where is Glen Beck on the story - perhaps he'll explain by drawing things and putting up pictures on his black board with arrows going all different directions.
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(RxR)
October 3, 2009 9:47 PM
after looking at that chris killz blog, i've decided to amend my unique driving law to read, "i can drink and drive as long as i only drive on the sidewalks."
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Zee
October 4, 2009 12:16 AM
Blic News, Serbia by Nemanja Vlacho:
"A company claiming to solve successfully all cases (from marital problems to securing of convoys in Iraq and Afghanistan), has placed Serbian state emblem on its site. This company’s owner is Michael Hilton, a US citizen of Montenegrin origin. The local media in Montana report that Hilton said that the state emblem of Serbia is actually his family emblem. Media also report that in recent 20 years he committed several criminal offences using names ‘Djokovic’ and ‘Djokic’. In March of 1993 he was sentenced to two years in federal prison. In 2003 he was arrested for driving drunk."
Source: http://www.blic.rs/society.php?id=5270
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Bruce Webb
October 4, 2009 12:17 AM
Well since I am firmly committed to the proposition that "even paranoids have real enemies" I am oddly comforted by this whe sequence of events.
"No doc I don't need anti-psychotics, I got a subsription to the Billings Gazette"
Because just because I twitch a lot, and wake up in cold sweats thinking spiders are crawling over me, that doesn't mean my fears of being subjected to the Serbian Kingdom are off base.
Basically the Talking Dolphins in the Illuminati Trilogy make more sense than this story line. The combination of hoax, criminal fraud, paranoid fantasy, and movie pitch is dizzying.
Of course it is always possible that Toto will tug away the curtain and show that the Wizard is really Dick Darth Cheney. Which would explain much otherwise inexplicable.
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 4, 2009 1:47 AM in reply to Bruce Webb
Since KBR (formerly Halliburton) is probably involved, you're quite on base!
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 4, 2009 1:49 AM
et voila mes amis:
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showConnection.php?id1=3464&id2=2599
I think we have our suspects.
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Mum
October 4, 2009 5:21 AM
It's amazing to me that we have an empty detention facility that needs detainees so we go hunting up people to fill it back up! Isn't having an empty prison or jail a good thing? Can't the people in this town manufacture something or start a service industry of some kind that doesn't involve refilling a prison? Or is this one of those privately-operated prisons that needs to be filled in order to make a profit for its corporate overlords?
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fitley
October 4, 2009 6:19 AM
I suspect Xe is behind this. Funny to see who their front man is though. A drunken grifter who wants to be called "Captain". Hilarious.
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The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker
October 4, 2009 10:39 AM in reply to fitley
Not Xe, ironically. The GEO Group (formerly Wackenhut), has partnered with KBR (formerly Halliburton) and a few other companies, and oh! How deep this rabbit hole goes!
The Pajamahadeen have found their Civilian Police International, their joint venture. Two headquarters locations: Lansdowne, Virginia and Kosovo, an autonomous region in Serbia run by the UN and aligned with the European Union (EU).
No joke.
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Bloodyheck
October 4, 2009 10:21 AM
I'd get my 1st and last months rent up front, since it will probably be the same month.
Domestic para-military forces SELDOM claim they are democrats..and tree huggers don't carry real guns..now if the Serbian folks are carrying paint cans then you have them tagged. (pun inte4nded)
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fitley
October 4, 2009 3:17 PM
I'm interested to see how Becky Shay comes out of this. Quits her job of 20 years to become the PR person for a drunken grifter who calls himself "Captain". Riding around town in a Mercedes SUV. Weeeeee. Should be a pretty fun week before the whole thing is shut down. Maybe she'll write a book about it. "Me and the Captain".
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Bademus
October 4, 2009 3:53 PM
A Billings Gazette article says the lawyer involved in the dealings quit, a defense contractor that the APF said it was working with threatened to file a suit for using their name. This company, Allied Defense Systems, checked out the APF and found to to be unacceptable for doing business with. And the payment for at least one of the Mercedes SUVs is late. It looks like Michael Hilton is (still) a complete fraud. And Hardin officials look like complete fools.
Article referenced is http://www.billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_f311dee6-afbe-11de-8149-001cc4c03286.html.
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CVille Dem
October 4, 2009 6:36 PM
Is it just me, or does this picture look like a couple of teenagers playing paint-ball? They look like doofuses except that they probably have real guns.
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Hardin Guy
October 5, 2009 12:12 AM in reply to CVille Dem
APF didn't have any guns at all when they came to Hardin. They also didn't try to pull any cars over or blockade any streets.
All they did was go to some meetings. I saw the Mercedes SUV Captain Hilton drove into town. Other than the decals, which were identified to me as featuring the crest of Montenegro, the SUV had no police radios, radar, lightbars, push bumpers, gunracks or transport screens.
It was a good looking vehicle, but the interior looked cramped for a patrol car. Although Mercedes makes a lot of specialized vehicles for police, this didn't appear to be one of them.
There's no coup d'etat going on in Hardin. We do enjoy a good show, however.
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pqowieur
October 5, 2009 9:58 AM
Peterson/TRA and Hilton/APF, are still moving forward ! Read this Oct4,7pm KURL article: http://www.kulr8.com/news/local/63488352.html
Most everyone in the blogoshpere is convinced its just a simple con that has been "found out". Well its still proceeding!
I think Hardin is being intimidated big time, if you were a Hardin resident just imagine whats running through your head, (unless your naive).
TRA/APF wont stop this unless legally forced to stop.
and it seems like the Billings Gazette is not giving the story much attention since friday. News stories are dying down (or is that because of the weekend?)
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Hardin Guy
October 6, 2009 5:13 PM in reply to pqowieur
I wouldn't describe it as a "simple con," pqowieu. If the news reports are any indication, Captain Hilton has a lot of experience in the business.
Hardin residents aren't "intimidated", at least the ones I know aren't. We were really hoping for somebody to lease the new prison though. It didn't look to me like we had much to lose.
No real security company, however, is going to have an officer with a criminal record. That's what discouraged me the most.
The original concept behind the prison was a good one. The Montana Board of Crime Control came to Hardin with a plan for it and the City supported it. The State urgently needed 500, or so, additional beds for inmates. It still does.
The Board wanted to move inmates from the State Prison at Deer Lodge to a new facility at Hardin. We're in Big Horn County and the County includes the Crow Indian Reservation and part of the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation.
A lot of the inmates at Deer Lodge are tribal members and a facility in Hardin would make it a lot easier for families and friends to visit. The initial concept had a lot of support from both tribes.
A new administration came in which had other priorities so here sits an empty prison. The City was left holding the bag.
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pqowieur
October 6, 2009 6:55 PM in reply to Hardin Guy
Hardin Guy: oops, I forgot to put my comment here, see my next comment below for reply.
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pqowieur
October 6, 2009 6:53 PM
I was not saying *I* think its a simple con. I was saying too many people were thinking it was just a con and the story is over. My point is TRA/APPF was/is *still* proceeding with the distubing APPF deal. Yes, disturbing, For example read my comment here: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/hardin_montana_puts_jail_deal_with_appf_on_ice.php#comment-3624279
Your saying the State came to Hardin with the plans/idea for the prison. My understanding is that TRA/private developers hatched the plans.
Hey, I dont live in Montana, and dont know all the politics and who did what, so in a way its not my buisiness, but the general issues apply to the whole country.
From an outsiders perspective just reading the articles (eg Gazette), it seems like citizens of Hardin are being unfairly shut out and not being dealt with honestly.
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Hardin Guy
October 6, 2009 7:19 PM
Thanks for the reply, pqowieu. I misunderstood your post and agree with you that this story isn't over yet.
I recall reading the report in the BILLINGS GAZETTE you commented on about APF making up the City Police Force. Your quotation is correct, but I believe that the story was incorrect. I'm not aware of any provision in Montana statute for private organizations to provide police services for municipalities or counties.
The state sets the standards for who can be a law enforcement officer or corrections officer and Captain Hilton would be disqualified if recent reports of his criminal history are correct. APF did offer assistance because the City and the County are in the process of ending their agreement for the Sheriff's Office to provide county-wide law enforcement services.
If APF personnel could meet State standards, the City could hire them on as officers. Deconsolidation looks like it will be a gradual process phased in over three or four years.
I agree with you about Hardin getting an unfair rap in the press and from the current administration in Helena. Under the previous administration, however, the State did come to Hardin seeking support for what is now called Two Rivers Detention Facility. They held a number of public information meetins and it sounded like a good idea to me.
It should have worked.
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