A U.S. District Court judge has dismissed one of Orly Taitz's birther lawsuits, saying it would be unconstitutional for the courts to "effectively overthrow a sitting president."
In his ruling, Judge David O. Carter said the plaintiffs, represented by Taitz, had asked the courts to go outside their constitutional power by demanding President Obama produce further documentation proving he was born in the United States, and if he couldn't, shutting down the federal government and holding an election.
"Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction," Carter wrote. "Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this Court is not unpatriotic."
In another of Taitz's birther cases, a judge fined her $20,000 for "abus[ing] her privilege to practice law" by bringing suits "without a reasonable basis for believing that they are supported by existing law." Taitz has said she won't pay.
You can read the entire ruling here.
(H/T Dave Weigel)

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Schmed- ley
October 29, 2009 2:14 PM
OH NOOOOOOO! What will Oily Taint do now? Wasn't this her last best hope?
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LarsThorwald
October 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Yay. I have a case in front of Judge Carter coming up. Good to know I can at least count him in the sane category.
you can never be too sure with Central District judges. No offense.
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 29, 2009 3:40 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
If you're telling the truth, what do you think about Carter's display of either sloppy thinking, ignorance, or bias?
Also, why didn't TPM tell you about that?
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ericf
October 29, 2009 3:53 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Oh, what the heck, one more try at sanity: you're wrong. Hawaii has said the certificate is authentic. Maybe some day some birthers will figure out that that you have to base a case on more than refusing to believe the other side's evidence.
Of course, if that logic could seep through, there would be no global warming deniers either, no creationists, no Holocaust deniers.. oh well.
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 29, 2009 4:09 PM in reply to ericf
Why do Obama fans have to keep lying about this issue? HI has only said two things about the picture on BHO's site:
1. A spokeswoman said the picture looked like a valid cert, then - on the same page - said "I don’t know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents." Read about that in the fourth item here (note also that that page is from over a year ago). Since that time, that same spokeswoman told me that she's not qualified to discuss certificate-related issues.
2. And, in August of this year, Hawaii pointed out that they have NOT authenticated the picture on Obama's site.
Once again: HI has not authenticated the picture on Obama's site.
Please ask yourself: why do Obama supporters have to keep lying about this issue?
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hunter
October 29, 2009 4:53 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago..."
What part of this confuses you?
And just in case USA Today is to librul for you:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/28/hawaii-declares-obama-birth-certificate-real/
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loria
October 29, 2009 5:15 PM in reply to hunter
Lonewac,
Where are you? Did you read the links or do facts interfere with the fantasy you and the other Birthers have created?
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 30, 2009 12:12 AM in reply to hunter
Are you unable to read? Where in there does she say anything about the picture on BHO's site? Please quote the exact part of her huffy statement where she says anything about the picture on BHO's site.
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AJM
October 29, 2009 5:45 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that a person cannot become the President if he does not have a birth certificate. That's the 'detail' you got wrong.
Further, the sane part of the world is convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii.
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:15 AM in reply to AJM
Then ask The Great O just WHERE that was? Some reports say one hospital, some say another. Is the great secret he so expensively hides that his mixed-race parentage is in that his FATHER was white, and his mother, a black Indonesian?
That his father was none other than Master Spy East German Stasi General Markus Wolf?
Born & groomed from young to be an Economic Manchurian Candidate, the same way I was?
He's my father, too.
The Great 0 is actually my half-brother (On the white side). There's others Wolf so bio-engineered, as you'll read at:
www.rickhyatt.freeservers.com
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lousgirl84
October 29, 2009 8:35 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
You are aptly named indeed!!
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:10 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
See my website, www.rickhyatt.freeservers.com
They lose it ALL if Obama's true parentage were known. Simple enough.
No future Commissarships for Pelosi & Reid & the rest under a new Commie govt., nothing at all, if they thusly lose it all...
They HAVE to have "Health Control" to lure in a major terrorist attack that will, under such govt. entitlements, permanently trash the economy, incite civil war, bring in the UN to "Contain civil disorder" (CHICOMS) or else no Commie post promotions in the future... The ole hanging tree, instead...
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JadeZ
October 30, 2009 9:48 AM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
LOL.
You people really believe you have an impact by selecting and distorting things that have no relevance.
Who cares about any pictures?
And to think people get upset when I point out that birthers represent the dumbest percentage of people in America.
Thanks for making my case.
ps.
if that pic( since you love pics) of taitz doesnt scare YOU ,try listening to her.
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:04 AM in reply to ericf
A COLB is in NO WAY a Birth Certificate! It was founded, I know I lived there, then, as a way to let the cheap Filipino sugar cane woerks an "In" on HI's generous health care!
It wasn't passed quickly, until it was announced that such law could potentially allow a foreign and hostile intelligence agent into the highest of US offices.
THEN the Hawaiian secessionists passed it so quick you wouldn't believe!
Hawaii is half-way to Red China in EVERY way you could think of, just know that!
Lived there undercover decades to report drug activity & report it, so guess what? Beaten 3 times: Twice by the Lahaina Mafia and once by MPD!!!
When the day comes that Russian Bear Bombers want to use Maui International Airport for refueling (A major military indicator as pushed by HI legislators), but let CHICOM Matson containers nuke O'ahu, instead (Where all our military bases are), I for one will be glad to use that warm white glow in the sunset for background lighting up here in the Wyoming mountains.
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bracken
October 31, 2009 10:10 AM in reply to rickahyatt
Well, gosh, I guess my "Certificate of Live Birth" from the State of Illinois, which has been used several times to secure my U.S. passport, isn't valid. Nah, it's just the Birthers being moronic again. THAT'S a certainty.
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Duck Stab
October 29, 2009 4:09 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
You just never stop, do you? You're a one man crusade, out there fighting for the truth.
What will it take for you to realize how misguided and delusional you are with your ridiculous paranoid fantasies?
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 29, 2009 4:12 PM in reply to Duck Stab
All of my arguments are based on facts and logic. If you don't understand what my arguments consist of and don't consist of, that would seem to indicate a problem that you have. Please don't waste peoples' time with garbage comments. If you can find even one single thing I've gotten wrong, provide the details. I've repeatedly challenged others to direct me to any false, misleading or illogical statements in any of my coverage, and no one has ever been able to do it.
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Duck Stab
October 29, 2009 4:30 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
You've gotten one major fact wrong...Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 and the records prove it overwhelmingly.
If you think Obama isn't a US citizen, then the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise which you and all the other stupid birthers haven't come up with a single piece of evidence that would remotely suggest otherwise.
Keep it up, though. You're a constant source of amusement. We're not laughing with you, either, we're laughing at you.
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 29, 2009 4:49 PM in reply to Duck Stab
Clearly, you don't have either the intelligence or the integrity (or both) to understand my argument. Unlike some "Birthers", I'm not claiming that BHO was born outside the U.S. And, unlike BHO cultists, I'm not claiming that it's been proven that he was born in the U.S. My main claim is that it has not been definitively proven. If that's not understandable for you, I tried to explain it here.
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hunter
October 29, 2009 4:58 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
If the Republican director of the Hawaii State Department of Health publicly and repeatedly verifies it...just how much more "definitively proven" does it get?
And seriously...you don't think this would have come up in a >$1B campaign? Nobody came up with the research then?
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Barry Schwartz
October 29, 2009 5:50 PM in reply to hunter
It's essentially the same argument multiplied by a thousand that renders JFK assassination conspiracy theory silly on its face -- there is no way whatsoever that such a conspiracy could have existed so long in what was the most heavily investigated murder in human history -- yet such supposedly reasonable and allegedly intelligent persons as Thom Hartmann just whizz right past this observation. For some reason are anxious to live in a world more threatening and bizarre than the actual one, and we cannot ease their anxiety. So don't bother arguing with birthers; doing so mostly helps them spread their precious anxiety onto others (including me).
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:21 AM in reply to Barry Schwartz
Check out the WND World News Daily articles on just such. The paperwork that verifies The Great 0's eligibility was deliberately fudged by Pelosi and the rest.
Need you know more?
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LonewackoDotCom3
October 30, 2009 12:21 AM in reply to hunter
Cite your source for your claim that she's a Republican. You're probably confusing her with Hawaiian governor Linda Lingle. See the link for CNN and the NYT misleading people about what she said.
As for the last part of your comment, you probably don't understand how it's a fallacy.
Once again, why do BHO fans have to keep misleading, lying, and engaging in fallacious arguments?
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AJM
October 29, 2009 7:05 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
The Constitution does not say it has to be 'definitively proven.' The person just has to have been born in the US. You've already conceded that so why are you wasting your time and ours?
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lousgirl84
October 29, 2009 8:39 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Do you honestly believe that the powers that be in this country, would allow a black man to become president before they checked him out. It would never happen in a million years. He had to prove his citizenship when he went to college, let alone become a state senator then a U.S. Senator.
You have your head in the sand and don't care about the truth.
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:26 AM in reply to lousgirl84
The reason is really in the phrase, "Let the cream rise to the top where it can be culled..." Or, as in, "How do you lure all the moles out of the woodwork? Simple, just hoist a Barry Soetono up the flagpole and see who salutes..."
What you and I are witnessing in this day and time is the greatest US espionage operation in our country's history.
"May you live in interesting times." Old Chinese phrase.
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jagriff1
October 30, 2009 2:24 PM in reply to rickahyatt
Dude, you can't even get his Indonesian father's name right. It's Soetero, not Soetono. I realize I shouldn't respond to the psychotic, but Jesus, at least learn some basic facts before you weave your tinfoil fantasy.
In response to Lonewac, so what? Say I stipulate that Obama has put a forgery up on his website. Say I also stipulate that Obama was born in Kenya. No, say he was born on the moon. So what? His election was certified by the Congress. There are no Constitutional provisions to remove him from office except through Impeachment. In other words, you would need to convince a majority of the Democratic House of Representatives to vote to impeach him, and then convince 2/3 of the Democratic Senate to remove him from office. Good luck with that.
Sane people have moved on from this issue, even if they (incorrectly) think that there might be something worth investigating.
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lousgirl84
October 29, 2009 8:41 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Why is it that no one has asked any other president to prove he is a citizen? This has never come up in recent history. So why now, if this isn't racist based.
He posted his birth certificate. he doesn't have to prove shit to you.
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WineDarkSea
October 29, 2009 4:32 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Why do Obama fans have to keep lying about this issue?
And we would have gotten away with all the lying, too, if it hadn't have been for Orly Taitz and that brave truth-teller, LonewackoDotCom3. But when LonewackoDotCom3 got on our tail, we knew our goose was cooked. I mean, nothing says credibility like LonewackoDotCom3.
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BeeClone
October 29, 2009 4:55 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
None of your arguments are based on facts nor logic, but it does give you something to do and Orly a reason to live and a lot of fun for the rest of us.
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loria
October 29, 2009 5:20 PM in reply to LonewackoDotCom3
Logic? Fact? How do you figure that?
Nothing about the Birther movement is in any way based on logic and fact. There isn't anything rational about your beliefs. You link to some fringe blog as proof of something, although I can't tell you what. You will never be convinced Obama is natural born despite every factchecking organization, every judge, every official saying there is nothing to this.
When will you and Orly admit you are wrong? I don't think I'll hold my breath.
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Kuyleh
October 29, 2009 5:55 PM in reply to Duck Stab
he's delusional. So delusional that, no matter how often proof is shown to him, he ignores it. The fact that a black man has the White House strikes him as wrong, it scares him, so...He clings to his lies and puts blinders on.
Leave him in his delusions...It's probably better for him.
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:29 AM in reply to Kuyleh
Well said for an ACORN operative. (Commie agents ALWAYS assault intellectual thought and opinion with attacks upon their "Mental Health.") There are HORDES of these types, actually paid to be out there to repress free thought: BEWARE.
And ignore their intended humiliations.
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Kuyleh
October 30, 2009 4:01 PM in reply to rickahyatt
I seriously hope you're snarking, because if you're serious...I think you're worse off than Mr. Birth Certificate up there.
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LarsThorwald
October 29, 2009 2:16 PM
Also, that's a mighty seductive picture of Orly you have there.
Mmmm-hmmm.
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TheraP
October 29, 2009 3:13 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
It seems to say:
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CityGuy
October 29, 2009 3:16 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Yes and if only she's got on a short skirt to match. Wow!
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mans_best_friend
October 29, 2009 5:08 PM in reply to CityGuy
Eewwww!!! No thanks. Put her in a burqua.
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Ann Arbor
October 29, 2009 3:17 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Orly goes for those Gisele Bundchen off-kilter angles (not that I mean to equate the two). It's in keeping with her state of mind.
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jeffgee
October 29, 2009 5:19 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
She does like to pose with a come-hither look, doesn't she?
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Uncle Chad
October 29, 2009 8:10 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Hawt and crazy! Think clean thoughts, think clean thoughts...
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jolly ranchero
October 29, 2009 2:25 PM
$1 million that Taitz goes Goodwin with her response to Carter's dismissal. I smell "Brownshirts" sprinkled liberally throughout her coming diatribe.
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Beagle
October 29, 2009 2:25 PM
Didn't they cover something about the constitution at the law school she attended? Or did she have a class at the dental school that day? Or is it the realtor school?
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Mr.E.
October 29, 2009 2:54 PM in reply to Beagle
She didn't attend any law school. She enrolled in an unaccredited online program, and after completing that took and passed the California Bar. California is the only state in the country that allows students of an online school to take the bar exam.
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kunda311
October 29, 2009 2:59 PM in reply to Mr.E.
California is a great state in some regards and completely freaking insane in others. Case in point...
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richard f
October 29, 2009 4:09 PM in reply to Mr.E.
It's a little more complicated than that. The unaccredited on line law school must be a three year program and she had to pass a preliminary test (the Baby Bar) as well as the actual bar exam. That said, its still a disgrace that California allows this in place of an actual legal education
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Schmed- ley
October 29, 2009 2:25 PM
Uh oh. Ms. Taitz is probably going to get a personal tour of the Big House real soon!
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Catsy
October 29, 2009 3:42 PM in reply to Schmed- ley
You noticed that too?
Question for the lawyers here: if there are sworn affidavits that Taitz attempted to suborn perjury, in what way might this be actionable?
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LarsThorwald
October 29, 2009 4:01 PM in reply to Catsy
Okay, weird fantasy:
So Orly gets convicted of perjury and false statements, and gets sentenced to jail for 2 years. President Obama, in his genetic desire to take the high road and to send a message, commutes her sentence as is his Presidential authority. His presidential authority. His as President.
And then Orly is faced with a real dilemma.
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Minne sconsin
October 29, 2009 4:05 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
Oh, I love it!
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cwnidog
October 29, 2009 4:13 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
I really think that she is so deep into crazy that she would refuse an Obama pardon.
It's not that she would be unwilling to admit she's wrong, it would be an inability on her part to even allow the first glimmering of considering the possibility that perhaps she's wrong. She'd be just as likely to admit that a stone would fall up when she dropped it.
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Prof Wagstaff
October 29, 2009 4:27 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
What a great, twisted fantasy! But then I would expect nothing less from Mr. Thorwald.
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LarsThorwald
October 29, 2009 5:03 PM in reply to LarsThorwald
I note that there is probably a legal basis for not being able to reject a commutation or pardon if it does not give rise to further legal jeopardy.
He could give it to her, and she would have to take it. Ha.
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elle a
October 30, 2009 5:11 AM in reply to LarsThorwald
seconded, fanned and flagged for marvelousness!
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richard f
October 29, 2009 4:02 PM in reply to Catsy
If she tried to suborn perjury, that is a crime. The judge can refer her to the US Attorneys office for investigation and prosecution (I have seen that happen before) or the US Attorneys office can initiate the investigation on its own. The problem, however, may be that the people alleging to have been soborned may be no more credible than Ms. Taitz.
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richard f
October 29, 2009 4:04 PM in reply to Catsy
If she tried to suborn perjury, that is a crime. The judge can refer her to the US Attorneys office for investigation and prosecution (I have seen that happen before) or the US Attorneys office can initiate the investigation on its own. The problem, however, may be that the people alleging to have been soborned may be no more credible than Ms. Taitz.
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greylox
October 29, 2009 6:47 PM in reply to richard f
**That is, indeed, the case. She's mommy bird in a nest of crazies. One of the complainants is the fellow who claimed to have shared coke and "love" with Barack Obama, and the other is the guy who sold her the fake Kenyan birth certificate.
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Just Browsing
October 30, 2009 9:41 AM in reply to Catsy
Let's not forget the PA case too. The plaintiffs filed against Orly with very similar stories. She isn't licensed to practice in PA either. yet she is practicing. Amazing how she gets away with it all.
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lousgirl84
October 29, 2009 2:36 PM
Do you think someone (like AIPAC) might be funding her. This is just so bizarre.
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whitenoise100
October 29, 2009 2:55 PM in reply to lousgirl84
AIPAC? You're kidding right?
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Just Browsing
October 30, 2009 9:51 AM in reply to whitenoise100
She was/is the spokeswoman for AIPAC during the espionage investigation.
Excerpt:
"Orly Taitz of Laguna Niguel, Calif., believes there might be a short-term backlash against the organization [AIPAC].
"However, in the long run," said Taitz, 45, "I do not believe there will be a serious effect."
http://www.washingtonjewishweek.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=4&ArticleID=4952&TM=86380.5
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whitenoise100
October 30, 2009 10:46 AM in reply to Just Browsing
Didn't know that. Thanks for the link.
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Tom65
October 29, 2009 2:54 PM
There's a really lame Yakov Smirnoff joke in here somewhere.
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rb6
October 29, 2009 3:00 PM
The irony of Taitz's suit was not lost on judges, fortunately. In her zeal to uphold a single provision of the Constitution she is indifferent to the fact that she is obliterating much of the rest of the document, and in particular, provisions on the separation of powers between the branches of government.
It still irks me that she is likely to escape without a lot of damage.
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Chabuka
October 29, 2009 3:07 PM
Why is the media giving these far-right wing-nuts any face time, at all...it just encourages them...I don't recall seeing the media out covering the crackpots, standing on their soapboxes, ranting their crazy "end of earth theories" on the street corners (or the Hare-Krishna's chanting in the airports, or Jim Jones..or Rev. Moon's "moonies" until it was to late)...why do these nut cases get so much publicity...? Is every one working for the FOX "News" network/Murdoch, now..? (Murdoch's little empire should be hit hard with Sherman's Anti-Trust Act and then ship his happy greedy ass back to Australia, for good..!)
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CityGuy
October 29, 2009 3:10 PM
I am shocked SHOCKED by this development! lol
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The Commenter Formerly Known as NCSteve
October 29, 2009 3:14 PM
The scary part is that she apparently made Kreep seem cogent, reasonable and sane by comparison.
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mans_best_friend
October 29, 2009 3:19 PM
Every cloud has a silver lining. Her ability to practice anywhere outside California has effectively become nil.
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modernesquire
October 29, 2009 3:32 PM
Wasn't this the California case she and Newsmax, etc. were touting as the first case that was likely to consider the merits? Didn't see keep bringing this case up in her defenses to criticism about the others? I seem to recall that she spoiuted off the entire scheduling order of a California case as EVIDENCE of how successful her litigation was going.... apparently, not so well.
Shocker, I know.
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SJNewshound
October 29, 2009 3:35 PM
Is it just me, or does she look a LOT like a guy in drag?? Actually, I've seen much better wigs on drag queens...
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Whenwillthisnightmareend
October 29, 2009 3:51 PM
But I don't think it would be unconstitutional to send that bitch back from whence she came.
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kiri
October 29, 2009 4:41 PM
hy would/should Obama release his birth certificate or other early records?
We might imagine these thoughts from Obama:
1. There is no benefit in releasing documents. Birthers will never be satisfied. If some information seems favorable to me, birthers will say they are fakes and forgeries; if some information seems negative or embarrassing, birthers will say "this is just the tip of the iceberg", and will demand a new set of investigations. There will be no end to it at all.
Conspiracy theories never end. See Roswell, New Mexico. They just morph into new conjectures.
2. Satisfying birthers is futile. Not a one of them voted for me, and no matter what I do they will not support my policies/programs. Appeasing them is a fool's errand.
3. Is it a matter of satisfying the Constitution and questions from the American people? No. Birthers are only a small minority. Their concern is not about the Constitution, which I respect and admire; their objective is to destroy. What they want to destroy is nebulous, what they want is cloudy.
Their generalized anger, paranoia, anxieties, and sense of powerlessness is disturbing. But this is properly a matter for home, church, and mental health professionals.
4. The birther movement is draining millions of dollars away from election candidates. The ultras are frittering away their energies and making themselves look foolish, as only Orly can do. So long as birthers are occupied, it hinders them getting up to other mischief.
5. The birthers are having lots of fun with imagining that somehow I will be jailed and having wet-dreams that Sarah Palin will become President. Releasing documents would interfere with their fun fantasies, and it would be unkind of me to injure their fun.
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NealnNYC
October 29, 2009 9:43 PM in reply to kiri
I agree, let these folks drain their time, money, energy and whatever credibility on this type of nonsense while the rest of us focus on making this country better.
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rickahyatt
October 30, 2009 12:32 AM in reply to kiri
Nice PSYOPS. Well written. I know, I served in the US Army 4th PSYOPS Group, myself.
Trouble with your writing is in that: The most powerful propaganda is the truth, "White Propaganda."
Yours is just shit brown.
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kiri
October 30, 2009 2:57 AM in reply to rickahyatt
Your insightful analysis and crafty way with words are noted.
But if you were Obama, would you give birthers anything?
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The Duck
October 30, 2009 1:59 AM in reply to kiri
Great analysis!
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11A7E
October 29, 2009 5:43 PM
DISBAR ORLY TAITZ!!!!!
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Common Sense Caucus
October 29, 2009 6:06 PM
When is this lady going to see the inside of a jail cell? Lucky for her we do live in a FREE country or she would have been hauled off long ago for inciting insurrection.
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kash79
October 29, 2009 6:17 PM
I'm just glad, she almost sounds as insane as she really is. The moment she opens her mouth, case closed.
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greylox
October 29, 2009 6:50 PM
**Well, she says she won't pay her fine, so I'm assuming she'll be going to jail. That Georgia judge isn't going to take any crap from her. I think he will also redouble his efforts to get her sanctioned by the California bar.
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SGzaphod
October 29, 2009 10:53 PM in reply to greylox
**Well, she says she won't pay her fine, so I'm assuming she'll be going to jail. That Georgia judge isn't going to take any crap from her.
He doesn't have to take any crap from her. When he authorized the US Attorney's office to begin collection proceedings after 30 days, he insured that she was going to pay the fine whether she wants to or not. The process is very simple - after spending a reasonable amount of effort to get her to voluntarily pay the fine, they have the authority to seize the money from any bank account she has control over (including her paypal account). If they drain all of her accounts and the fine still isn't settled, they continue seizing money as it comes into the accounts until it is. Simple, brutal, and effective.
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GTFOOH
October 29, 2009 7:17 PM
I need more cowbell!
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barnacle
October 29, 2009 8:26 PM
I think Orly is one sexy fine lady. Crazy, maybe, but in the boudoir that's a good thing.
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Oro Lee
October 29, 2009 8:44 PM
Judge Carter's opinion is nothing less than the District Court's refusal to join Plaintiff's attempt to depose the President of the United States, an act of rebellion against the United States. While not armed rebellion, Plaintiffs are nonetheless a cowardly unpatriotic rabble if not flat out traitors. Forget civil contempt, get a firing squad.
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bluestatedon
October 29, 2009 9:44 PM
Sez Oily Taint, with a very come-hither look at her door: "Say there, big boy, is that a Kenyan birth certificate in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?"
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Prof Wagstaff
October 29, 2009 10:48 PM
"Who's that knocking at my door? Who's that knocking at my door?
Who's that knocking at my door?" said the fair Young Maiden...
"It's me and my crew and we've come for a screw!" said Barnacle Bill the Sailor.
"It's me and my crew and we've come for a screw!" said Barnacle Bill the Sailor.
Sorry barnacle, I couldn't resist.
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Stryder54
October 29, 2009 11:34 PM
Baa! Baa! As a father of young children, the tone of both sides of this issue is disturbing. What I hear on the street grows angrier each day. It is all to clear that when our Judicial and Legislative Branches are complicit in abandoning the constitution, the citizens have no choice but revolt. Only time will tell whether Judge Carter has fired a defining volley of a Revolution. One would like to believe that the obvious errors in his decision were purposefully aimed at leaving the door open to appeal.
From ‘The Problem with Sheep’ by Betty Dowdell, “But nobody argues about the intelligence of sheep. Let's face it. There's dumb. There's dumber. Then there are sheep.
Wandering from grass clump to grass clump, sheep chew away without looking up. Focused only on the next green clump–and with severely limited vision to start with–they may not notice the rest of the herd hanging a left just when they’ve spotted a juicy morsel to the right–and another, and another, and so on. Then they're lost, wandering around in a daze, bleating. But still grazing.”
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astrotdog
October 29, 2009 11:41 PM
I A N A L -- but, I am a retired officer. In the Motion to Dismiss, I noticed that ORLY Taitz also cited the wrong oath of office.
Per Judge Carter, for the "Active Military Personnel" class of plaintiff, "Pl. ? Plantiff" states that all military personnel take the enlisted oath (10 U.S.C. § 502). This is factually incorrect. All officers, including "Lieutenant Freese" instead use the Oath of Office listed in 5 U.S.C. § 3331.
Unlike the enlisted oath, an officer does NOT swear to "obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me..." An officer's oath is to the constitution, not the President. This is a distinction that LTC Ollie North also failed in the Iran-Contra Affair.
The error regarding Lieutenant Freese remained uncorrected in Judge Carter's response.
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rickahyatt
October 29, 2009 11:56 PM
The real reason for all the high-pressure tactics to keep Obama's true mixed-race and true birth certificate squelched is because he shares the same bio-father and I and other "Manchurian Candidates" do. (On the white side)
Former Ministerium Fuer Staasscherheit (Stasi) Master Spy Markus Wolf (A master of false documentation and crafted Legends) had Celiac's disease (He told me), a particular
gift for espionage operatives, and he used his resources to pick
women of the same genetics, in order to create proverbial "Manchurian
Candidates." That he had intended to run on a life-long operation of
the destruction of western capitalism by subversion from within. (See my website)
But I was used by US Agencies in the '70's to lure him to the West, where he was
"Turned," from the East, by placing me in US Army M.I. & sending me to
Germany. He became a "Consultant" for the US since, drawing out the enemy agenda in advance, and drew up the Patriot Act, for example.
Every future Obamamania theme was preempted in advance by the CIA and the Bushes.
A lot of other spies were lured out, too.
Gen. Wolf was gifted in many things, to include applied psychology, and PSYOPS, (He designed many of our anti-war songs - Peter, Paul & Mary...) but his medical expert for personal terror and assassination was apparently a former Nazi SS Munthausen concentration camp Doctor "Death," Aribert Heim.
But only now can I share my entire genetic "Espionage family" with the world:
http://www.rickhyatt.freeservers.com
"Telling the truth during times of universal deceit will be a
revolutionary act." George Orwell, "1984"
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Minne sconsin
October 30, 2009 7:48 AM in reply to rickahyatt
Marvelous snark award!
It took way too long for me to realize it was snark, tho - damned birthers are so crazy, how do you know when someone's really over the top>
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Verified
October 30, 2009 12:28 AM
Taitz' law degree is just more evidence of the mass march toward educational mediocrity that is on-line education.
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Johnsnottoodistracted
October 30, 2009 4:45 AM
and her hair was perfect! I'd like to meet her tailor.....ahwhooooo
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KZ
October 30, 2009 9:27 AM in reply to Johnsnottoodistracted
Was she drinking a Pina Colada at Trader Vicks?
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baruchgershom
October 30, 2009 9:04 AM
What I found interesting in this decision is that Judge Carter acknowledges that Keyes, as a candidate for the presidency, would have had standing to challenge Obama's credentials had he brought suit during the campaign, and not waited until three hours after the President was sworn in. In recent elections there have been more serious questions as to the Constitutional qualifications of the men on the ballot. For example, it is untested whether McCain was a "natural-born" citizen because he was born on a U.S. Navy base abroad. A fairly convincing argument could have made that being born anywhere in Panama is not good enough. Also, allegations were made that Cheney was not a current resident of Wyoming in 2000, as the ballot said, but of Texas (supposedly, the President and VP candidates can't be from the same state -- but I don't know where it says that). I figure that some nutty third-party candidate, perhaps a Ralph Nader or Larouche will figure out that a lawsuit during the campaign might help them raise some money and get attention for their ideas. And if they can come up with a non-frivilous argument, along the lines of what I suggested (unlike the Birther arguments), they might even win.
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Just Browsing
October 30, 2009 10:01 AM in reply to baruchgershom
McCain wasn't born on the Base. He was born a mile outside the Canal in Colon.
And also, Roger Calero was on the ballot in a number of states and he was barred from entering the US by INS for drug charges.
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Just Browsing
October 30, 2009 10:07 AM in reply to baruchgershom
>>>And if they can come up with a non-frivilous argument, along the lines of what I suggested (unlike the Birther arguments), they might even win.
Leo Donofrio's case actually was filed against the NJ State Elections board for not vetting the candidates. It wasn't targetted to anyone candidate and Roger Calero was on the State ballot.
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Advocatus Diaboli
October 30, 2009 1:28 PM
I hope that anyone represented by the state legislators named as plaintiffs in this case will contact that legislator and find out whether he or she actually signed on to the case, and if so, well....
The state legislators named are:
Tenn: Glen Casada, Frank Niceley & Eric Swafford
Missouri: Cynthia Davis and Timothy Jones
New Hampshire: Timothy Comerford
I've reached out to Comerford but haven't heard back yet.
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bracken
October 31, 2009 9:39 AM in reply to Advocatus Diaboli
Come on, Orly. Undo those top two buttons. You know you want to. I'll bet it's black lace underneath.
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